Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

[SlinkyB]

Hello all, I'm back from my week long holiday and just caught up on all the news.

Sorry to hear some of you are still really poorly, and I was at some of the the treatment some of you are getting (or not, more to the point) from your GP's. Thank goodness for Mother Hen Lucinda clucking and helping. Let's hope that new guidelines are soon published for all health care professionals to adhere to. My GP also said at diagnosis "ooh, you can now go around telling everyone you've got what Kate Middleton had!". MIL pointed out the other day that she bounced back quickly so hopefully I would too. Like you say, who knows what treatment and meds were/are available to her.

I'm now 10+1 and getting a little better day by day. Even had some energy return so was able to enjoy a couple of trips out with my dh and ds. Still needing an afternoon nap and in bed around 7-8pm each night, but it's a vast improvement on being bed bound and getting depressed a couple of weeks ago.

Am just taking Cyclizine at 6.30am and about 5pm now,as found my 12.30 one really did knock me out. Planning on returning to work on Monday, first time back in a month and not looking forward to it. Am also at threat of redundancy - seems a common theme on this thread

With regard to only being able to eat certain things Sally I was like that, and found myself randomly enjoying....tinned new potatoes?! I don't know what it is about them, but thought I'd mention it. I eat at least one packet of salt and vinegar crisps per day too, usually midmorning when I feel nauseous. Total food and drink aversion was hideous before, but I'm very lucky and seem to be heading back towards eating normally now

[Mena1]

I had HG with my first and it was hell! One midwife even asked me if I "self diagnosed" I swore her in zulu and politely said no. What a cow!

I come bearing a silver lining to the dark HG clouds going about.

When I found out I was pregnant again, I literally screamed. It wasnt planned at all. all I could think about was the constant nausea and vomiting and having to look after a 2.5 year old. I was very very close to going at DH's testicles with a butter knife. I was so angry. I have been ill but not nearly as bad as I was with DC1, I think I have proper "morning sickness" now and i dont mind it at all compared to what I went through the first time. 14 weeks now and doing good.

I was very anxious about having another DC and spoke to the lovely LucindaE about all my fears and she did say theres a possibility I wouldnt have HG again.....look at me now! so if you are looking at having no.2 after HG hell with first DC there is a possibility that you could be OK!

Sally - Ginger made me even more sick, dont listen to that hippie!
The other thing that helped me , was cyclozine and metaclopramide , taking these two together really helps.

Good luck to all the HG sufferers out there, you are not alone.xx

[Hyperhelpmum]

Hi all sorry to hear you are all suffering so sally I had a horrific 'dead animal dying' taste in my mouth and found skittles (small so one every now and again not too nauseous making) worked a bit but really nothing helped until I was eating and drinking again. Can't remember who mentioned not drinking much and worrying about nor getting 2l but I am still drinking minimal amounts as liquid still a trigger. I don't think it's that bad as long as you stay hydrated. So glad you got the meds feekerry just shows what utter rubbish they spout as they go back in it, not very credible! As for passing after 12 weeks, wish some of them could try lying in constant discomfort and distress for weeks on end. I'm 19 weeks plus and only just feeling ok most of the time. Still nauseous after breakfast and until after lunch really but eating must things and back to Pre preggo weight of 9 st 4lbs. waves stay strong, typical spineless coward act to change the tune so close to the end when you have done all the hard work with NO support. Poor you. So confusing. Hugs to all and ps physio helped with spd loads so although it's uncomfortable at times I'm no longer in constant pain. Exciting news today, baby looking fab and only slightly under average size, not surprising after 17 weeks of puking/ vomiting and it's ...... A little girl!!!!!! Big shock as was convinced it was a third boy! Feeling very happy though!

[wavesandsmiles]

Glad you are feeling a bit better hyper, and great scan news for you!

I managed a decent nights sleep which is great, an hoping today isn't too bad. I genuinely feel the past week has been more just morning sickness for me, with only around 3 or 4 vomits a day, although the nausea is horrid. I'm nowhere near 2 litres of fluids a day as fluids make me sicker than dry food. Will try to make up some more fortisip jelly this morning.

I am feeling very confused about exh situation. He wants to make things work, but I don't know whether this is motivated by a road to Damascus kind of moment, with him realising he does love me, and has been a total shit, or whether it is because he can't afford court/doesn't want maintenance and access battles and is doing this for that reason and acting the remorseful in love part...... Bad timing as i was just starting to get mentally prepared for my little ones arrival.

I'm 35 + 4, so reach full term in just over a week which is a bit scary! I also don't think I could contemplate another pregnancy, this one has, it feels, nearly killed me. I have an older DS and DD, but there is also a part of me that would love to experience pregnancy with a loving, supportive partner.

I've found this place to be so much support and can't thank lucinda and the other regulars enough.

[SlinkyB]

Congratulations on the happy scan news hyper - I was meant to ask how it went and forgot, sorry. I have a dss and ds so pressure is on to have a girl this time. It would be nice to have a bit of gender balance in the house, but we're not too bothered as long as baby is healthy.

waves what a bombshell from exH. Are you still in love with him? Do you trust him? Sorry don't know you but those would be the first questions I'd be asking a friend in the same situation I think. Not sure I could forgive someone for running out on me in my time of need.

I had the worst night ever. Felt really sick and the room was spinning, so took a Cyclizine at midnight which took the edge off.

Hope you all have good days.

[Sally8655]

Hyper- congrats in the scan, gona get some skittles today and give them a go.

Waves- I can only imagine how difficult things are for you, but also very exciting that you'll have your baby with you very soon.

Feekerry- how you feeling? Hope the meds are having more of an impact

I'm feeling very tired, hungry, bunged up again and to top it off, I reckon I might have an ear infection. It would make sense if I do.
When I went for my last scan, I had really horrid pain in ear and around that side of head. It went away but every now and then it aches a bit with some sharp pain. If I remember rightly this is when the really bad dizziness started. Last night the ear ache was awful.
Looking forward to checking it out with the doc. If some of how I'm feeling can be treated easily ill be over the moon!
Managed to get rid of the fowl taste yesterday with my popodoms and onion pickle. However it's back in full force today. Also gona try and pick up some black jack and fruit salad chews. Used to love them as a kid. Don't know where ill find them though.
Really looking forward to being able to eat normally and enjoy real food again. I hope this doesn't last much longer.

[LucindaE]

Mena1 I remember you so well - one of the first on these threads, along with FluffyWhiteKittens - I recommended coke ice cubes, forgot to say, let it go flat, and you had a spillage in your fridge, just what you don't need when ill. I am so happy that fate having taken the decision out of your hands - as it did with MaryLou242 you 'Only' suffered nasty morning sickness. Thank you so much for kind words and for coming on to encourage others. Lol about swearing in Zulu - a great idea -and about the fantasies of castrating OH!
Wavesandsmiles Goodness, I agree with Slinky and her questions. I am glad he is sorry, but while he may believe himself to be reformed, etc, I do think he needs counselling, as he has to realise that he has hurt you a lot and upset the kids,etc, and if he does want you to trust him again, it is going to take a lot of time. I hope that doesn't sound too schoolmarmy, but he can't just say 'sorry, I didn't mean it' after deserting you when you needed him most. That is going to take some sorting out. . Isn't it awful, if on this thread it is 'only' three or four vomits a day? Most women would call that extreme suffering.
I am so glad that this thread has been a support for you (I've been shocked at how ill you have been, I think you have had the worst case I've known on this thread) and if we could do a tiny bit to ease things, then that is great.
Sally You are brave - but these urges are best followed - I ate fish fingers, fishcakes, probably horrible on the way up again but I don't remember those making a reappearance, unlike that pasta and cooked cheese . Travel agent sounds interesting work - so it isn't suffering so much from the recession? Aniseed, I remember that from years ago - it was barley sugar with me. These people who sit in moral judgement on sufferers have got a damned nerve!
Feekerry Two is enough, for sure. I so agree with you and Sally about salt and vinegar flavour, along with flat sugary coke for me, or flat Lucozade.
Slinky Welcome back, and yes, there can't be any comparison between the treatment available to royals and what is on offer on the NHS what with those nice seven hours wait for a bed, reluctance to prescribe Ondansetron, etc etc, unfortunately. So glad you are improving, fingers crossed it continues...
Hyper Great news, I am so glad you are a lot better, and about scan.
Apologies to anyone impolitely ovrelooked/cross posted.
Lucinda
xx

[LucindaE]

SlinkyOops, just seen about horrible night. Sally I so feel for you over that foul taste. I once chewed fresh mint leaves in desperation, I'm not sure I recommend that .
Lucinda
xx

[LucindaE]

slinky I forgot to put in hugs over bad night, and thanks for kind words.
Lucinda
xx

[Tallyra]

hi guys, just popping in to give you all hugs. I remember that taste, a horrible metallic taste that even made tea taste like crap once I got my steroid induced appetite back.
waves I am . at oh thinking he has any right at all to come back. after everything he let you go through on your own.

[feekerry]

Ughhh. Really hate this. Last time when the meds worked i got a fairly normal diet back minus some food aversions.
This time its totally different. Even tho i am not as sick i cannot eat a thing. Literally nothing. I can't even look at food or smell it. I am probably having about 200 calories a day which consists of a breakfast bar and a few grapes. But i don't feel hungry at all. No hunger pangs
Any suggestions on what i can try eat (boak) even typing the word makes me heave. Seem to have developed some kind of eating disorder

[Hyperhelpmum]

I was the same feekerry. I ate a bowl of shreddies and a piece of toast a day for weeks and even that didn't always stay down despite meds. Try sweets, I managed haribo, skittles and the odd mini milky way. Just for a bit of sugar. I also managed sprite every now and then. Seriously, I hardly ate for weeks. Seem to pilling on the pounds now though!!!!

[SlinkyB]

I was the same in the early early weeks too fee, total food and drink aversion. I gagged when my GP asked how I was getting on with "meals" !

I just forced myself to sip any sugary drinks, and managed the odd bowl of cereal. Also didn't mind fruity hard boiled sweets, which temporarily relieved the dry mouth; maybe try those? I do feel for you, twas hideous

[SlinkyB]

P.s hyper me too; I'm eating every couple of hours to stop the sickness....have a big belly on me now!

[Sally8655]

Hi all
I had a pretty rough night and still feel a bit shakey. Don't know what's going on with my body right now. One day I can eat some, the next nothing. I've only managed strawberries again so far today. Trying to sip water although struggling.
Been really dizzy and shakey. Hoping I get to see a doc tomorrow to check out the ear infection thing and desperately need help with mega constipation. Prune juice worked last week but not been able to go for a few days now despite using the same method. The GP last prescribed fibergel which didn't work and senna. I tried the senna once and it helped a bit but have since found stuff online to say it shouldn't be taken during pregnancy. If that's the case why would my GP prescribe it?
Has anybody else on here used senna?

I agree feekerry about food aversions, sometimes somebody just mentioning eating makes me gag.
The thought of doing online food shopping while hubby is away is a scary thought.

I have however spent a fortune online since being laid up in bed for such a long time.
Yesterday I ordered old fashioned sweets such as Parma violets, dip dabs, aniseed balls and blackjack sweets to satisfy a craving and hopefully get rid of this minging taste.
Today I decided I hate the smell of my house (don't know why as its spotless and still smells if fresh paint) so I went online to lush cosmetics and spent a ridiculous amount of money on nice smelling soaps to leave around my bedroom and bathroom.
Crazy I know but didn't want to smell air fresheners.
Im sure this is also down to boredom. I've also been on and joined every baby club there is to get my free packs. Very sad, but don't want to sleep as I feel worse when I wake and really will do anything to take my mind off how ill I feel.
Feeling very sorry for myself, hoping to be able to go to the loo soon and sure the effectivness of my ondansetron is waring off xxx

[RNJ3007]

Hugs to all.

feekerry I have the same issue. Food is not my friend at all. Lost so much weight it is worrying - not in maternity wear at 31w2d! I've mostly been sipping fanta fruit twist or San pellegrino grapefruit, and food has been raspberries, strawberries, flat peaches and cold Granny Smith apples. Had the occasional food success, but the last week has been dire, barely eaten anything. Had a few mouthfuls of baked fish and plain whole grain rice last night. Today I managed a few pomodorino tomatoes and a couple of carrot sticks.

My DD's birthday party was yesterday. I'm utterly broken today, but managed a hobble round kiddicare. Ordered the cot and mattress, and got a changing bag and muslins. Accomplished! And done with baby shopping.

It's no fun when 'only' being sick 7-8 times in a day is a good day. And I'd kill for a couple of good days just now. So sick and tired of being sick.

[feekerry]

Thank you all. Least i am not alone. Its mental. I cannot even say sainsburys without heaving.

[SlinkyB]

Good luck at Dr's tomorrow Sally - dizzy and shakey does not sound nice. Fingers crossed it is an ear infection which can be sorted quickly. Sorry no advice re: constipation as prune juice usually works here. Will also keep everything crossed you get a repeat script for Ondansetron easily. Am jealous of your impending deliveries - sweets and Lush smellies sound great! Hope they cheer you up. How long will your dh be away for?

RNJ you sound really bad, well done for dd birthday party and getting organised for new baby's arrival. Not too much longer for you now.

Quick question for those of you taking Cyclizine; what times do you find it's best to take them? I followed hyper's advice about setting alarm for 6.30am and having cereal about 7am, which works really well.

I'm then waiting until around 4pm, so that I can eat dinner with the family around 5pm (although lately its just cereal again).

The past few nights I've found I've been waking up feeling really nauseas around 9pm-11pm and can't sleep so have ended up having another tablet and some food, but still having really crap sleep (am usually awake between 1am-3am).

Any thoughts on how to space them out better, as am only allowed three a day, appreciated.

[LucindaE]

I do so feel for you all about the food aversions, and as for having to shop for food. Feekerry Is even jelly or nibbles of salty crisps unbearable?
Sally Parma violets is an intriguing idea! It is so boring being bed bound or sofa bound, depressing, isolating. Those glycerine suppositories are the thing for most people, available for chemists (they use them in maternity wards but as usual, chemists won't give them if they know they're for someone pregnant). I think I may have been given a senna based mixture to clear out the bowels before some medical procedure, but presumably it was stronger, as it worked violently! But I wasn't dehydrated then,so my experience is probably irrelevant.
RNJ Oh dear, about being sick 7 or 8 times a day. That seems excessive on meds. Which meds did you say you are on, sorry I am so vague today, I should remember? It doesn't seem to be helping anything like enough, poor you.
Hyper and Slinky Congratulations on the gained pounds
I hopeReebok is OK...and waves and tired and Everyone.
Goes off, clucking.
Talyra Hugs.
Lucinda
xx

[SlinkyB]

Oh! Sorry, another question; anyone else suffering from a really dry mouth all the time? Not sure if it's a pregnancy thing or a Cyclizine thing? Driving me nuts though.

[feekerry]

Yes slinky as well as cack mouth. Not sure what is the cause. Prob hg and dehydration i imagine.
It sounds like sweets are the way forward. Haribo sound good to me.

[SlinkyB]

Confession time. I've been keeping Haribo in my bedside drawer and eating them in the middle of the night when I wake up with desert mouth They're so lovely and juicy. My poor teeth though!

Dh did the food shop yesterday and came back with a bag of the milkshake ones, which I don't recommend for a dry mouth. Def stick to the fruit ones.

[Sally8655]

I've now resorted to taking a couple of senna in the hopes of being able to go and rid this pain in my stomach.
Dh is away for two weeks on Thursday. I'm probably being a big baby but I've never been away from him for longer than a few days since we were married and to top it off he's doing everything for me at the moment as I can't venture downstairs at all.
Sweets did sound like a good idea at the time, just wish I could eat anything right now.

[feekerry]

I am thinking the star burst ones slinky
sally think its the ondansatron that makes you constipated. Have you got lactose from the doctors? You can get it in suppositries (nice) but they do work. I had to use unfortunately due to high usage of ondansatron last time.

[Sally8655]

Gonna get some tomorrow feekerry. Hope the senna I've taken will help when I wake up though x