Pregnant (IVF) Worriers (part two)

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Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others! We have filled our first thread (www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/1721178-Pregnant-IVF-Worriers) but there is more worrying to do so here we are.

A few of us graduated from the IVF thread (link below) and are having a go at our own thread to get out of the other IVF-ers hair! So get your roomy jogging bottoms on for some virtual hand holding, mutual symptom spotting and staying sane until the next scan date.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1691674-Excellent-Egg-Buddies-continued-Anyone-having-IVF-ICSI-in-Jan-Feb-and-March-2013-please-join-us

vall thats good news, you'll get used the injections my husband isn't here so I have t do it to myself

That's good to hear buzzy - it's the pulling the plunger back to check I haven't hit a vein that I am worried will the the hardest with one hand and all contorted

MrsHY1 - this thread crashes both on my phone and iPad.

vall I usually put the first needle in, leave it and do the second one, then I use a bit of kitchen towel to put over the stab wounds, I have hit something and its amazing to watch the blood streak out with such force I am a bit bruised in places, I alternate sides too

vall good news, those sound like good numbers and good too that you're getting the progesterone support. Though boo to more jabs.

MrsHY lovely to hear you can feel kicks, and expat, a pram, exciting - makes it all real.

Mariana glad trenchlet is coping with the hot weather but your sunburn doesn't sound fun.

So, my screening test results and scan this afternoon were all fine. Relieved doesn't cover it. As it turned out we didn't "need" the Harmony as the nuchal/combined result was pleasingly low risk (one in a couple of thousand). At my age I had been expecting a much scarier figure, and had it been that scary figure I would have been very grateful for the Harmony result to inform decisions about invasive testing, so I am really glad we chose to have the test. And it is still nice to have the extra reassurance of the Harmony result and its comforting 1:10,000 risk.

Everything looked OK with the little one for this stage on the scan, too. The one negative note was my subchorionic hematoma still being visible (boo hiss) but the doctor was confident from its appearance and small size that it is reabsorbing uneventfully. I have certainly had no bleeding for 3+ weeks now. So, all in all, phew. The next scan seems a very long way away now, though.

As to shazz's question, I have been on, ahem, "pelvic rest" because of the bleeding, so chance would be a fine thing :-)

Good luck for your 12 week scan on Friday buzzy. Yours will be fine too (touches wood and crosses fingers) though it is always so hard to keep positive and believe in good news for ourselves, I know. Only a couple more days to wait now.

Hi to everyone else too.

Morning all

Keep you are home in less than a week? That's so exciting.

Expat fantastic that your stuff has arrived. I bet it makes it all the more real. I'm changing my mind about thinking that shazlett is a boy. My neat bump seems to be spreading east and west around my hips. Does that mean its a girl? Where are you on the old wives tales? I'm about 50/50 with some it's a boy and with others it's a girl !

Vall. Great news re levels and no spotting. Ouch to injections. Hats off to you and buzz for the gesterone injections. They sound awful. It will all be worth it though.

Gin i haven't been out and about in the hood much although we did go to a swing dance thing as part of the Streatham festival on Saturday night. It was in the hall that the NCT classes are in and I was hoping and wondering if by chance you might be there! I'm also veggie. Do you eat fish? How closely as you thinking about protein intake? I think I'm doing ok but then every now and then have a panic that shazlett will be tiny due to lack of something. Re DTD I have not been up for it at all which is a shame. However suddenly in Monday night I was overwhelmed and 5 months of frustration came out. No wonder shazlett got a shock

Buzz sorry about uti. That's miserable.

Mariana squirming with embarrassment is probably about right! Poor little thing. Ouch re sunburn.

MrsH welcome home. I'm definitely up for 3rd aug. can't wait. It will be really lovely to meet you all. Where shall we go? Last time we met for lunch at carluccios in covent garden but that was only 3 of us. Depending on numbers we could change. We arranged it via PM last time. My app also crashes. Very annoying. I restart my phone and that sorts it.

Ceara. Hurrah! Welcome to the 1:10000 club! Lovely news and such a relief. Did you get your DVD?

Afm all fine. I'm working at the graduation ceremonies all week which is intense but I'm home by 4pm. Last night I slept for an hour and a half I was so tired. And my feet are like balloons. I'm going to try soaking them in cool water tonight.

Have a good day. X

Morning morning
Weird about the crashing eh? I've tried restarting my phone but to no avail. Maybe I'll uninstall then reinstall the app again.
Ceara that's such good news about your Harmony tests, you must be so relieved. Did they say when your haematoma is supposed to go away completely - or does it vary? Do you have to stay on 'pelvic rest' until it's gone?
Buzzy good luck for the scan, those 12 weeks seem to have come around very quickly but I bet they've dragged and dragged for you, with everything you went through in the early weeks.
Shazz I think it's supposed to be high for a boy and low for a girl (bump wise), but I seem to remember this was another myth that Bumpology put pay to! Have you googled the Chinese gender predictor? That's hilarious. Apparently I'm having a boy and the girl I sit next to at work who's having her 20 week scan and finding out on Friday is having a girl. I'll let you know if it works! Your poor balloony feet. I think cold water should help. Let us know so we can rip off your tip!
Brill - well let's arrange re 3rd Aug via PM then. I can't remember if Dildals was around but I think Gin was? Happy to go central or come to Streatham if it is just you and Gin?

Hello everyone

I lurk. Like a big ole lurky thing with feet the size of Wales.

I'm also up for 3rd. If anyone wants to host it, I will offer to make the cakes and bring them along. I am making cakes for 150 people on Friday for my mum and dad's 40th wedding anniversary. I must be crazy (but they are worth it). Red velvet cake pop and cupcake anyone ?

Noks xx

Just popping in quickly...

cearea I'm sooo pleased all was well with the harmony test and hope you are feeling a tad more relaxed (although I just seem to find new worries...)

vall so pleased all was well with your blood tests and good luck with the injections .

Welcome back mrshy

I am def up for the meet up on the 3rd. Obvs v happy for it to be in streatham, but covent garden or southbank good too. Fraid I can't host as have a teeny tiny lounge, which won't fit more than 2 people at a time! I think buzzy was interested too? Lets PM to organise.

shazz I can bore you with my protein worries when we meet! I don't eat fish and v much doubt I get enough...

shazz I heard it was low bump = boy and high bump = girl. Those old wives need to get their story straight, it is too confusing. Another old wives' tale gender predictor is glossy hair and glowing skin = boy, lank hair and looking rough = girl, but feel free not to disclose whether or not you currently look like something the cat dragged in. (My dearly beloved says we're definitely having a girl...)

*buzzy, I hope the UTI is clearing up. Reading buzzy's post, the gestone injections you and vall are having sound pretty hardcore. Hope you are coping OK. It's amazing how we end up doing these things and find the reserves to take them in our stride, but boo again to having to continue jabbing.

Yes I got my bonus scan DVD. My hot tired computer won't play it though so I am sulking a little :-) Yesterday was indeed a huge relief and I think I am going to manage a few days off from stressing. Though I think you are so right, gin, that it will then be onwards and upwards to the next anxiety! It is great to have the wisdom of all of you who are further ahead to lean on :-)

Good luck for tomorrow vall

Buzzy two needles?! I just have one. I set up the syringe and needle, break the Gestone bottle and draw the liquid then stab, draw back to make sure I haven't hit a vein then slowly inject. Massage afterwards and walk around for a bit. Just did my first solo effort feeling particularly proud of myself and did it straight away!

Ceara great news on the scan. Less so on the haematoma but if you have any more bleeding at least you have a good idea of where it is coming from.

Pelvic rest eh?! I have told DH no shagging until 12 weeks he's not to know the clinic just hasn't said anything

Shaz hope your feet aren't too painful. I possess the world's ugliest trotters so any swelling only adds to the monstrosity!

Crapping myself about the HCG tomorrow. Praying and praying we have levels doubling.

ceara good news on your scan :)

vall I am on 100mls or something like that so I do it two small syringes as that is what they sent me, can't wait for it to end, your hcg level will be great tomorrow

I went to the GP today, white cells in sample so she gave me some antibiotics and I have to do another sample tomorrow, i'll see how I go I don't really want to take the drugs but then I worry about having an infection, immune levels etc, I have to say this heat is too much along with the sickness and indigestion which seem to be back with a vengeance

Hi all and hi lurky noks. I have also taken to lurking of late. 16 weeks on Sat which is a huge way along but still not used to the idea or excited at all. Saw midwife today though and she was telling me to be cautious which bizarrely pissed me off! I think I want her to try to persuade me everything is ok, when she actually said not to buy anything until 20weeks. I probs won't anyway but still think she is grumpy.

Finish for the 6week hols next week, can't wait. Have done 15 weeks with only a couple of days off in between which is normally fine but could have done with some more breaks...sickness is still here although better and am just huge and melty and shattered! Feeling happier though which is nice.

Can anyone give me a rundown of where everyone is? Is expat ready for popping next? And then mrshy?

Twinny people dildals and sweetie we are going for the mountain buggy duo, bloody awesome. Same size as a normal puschair and takes two maxi cosi car seats. Costs a fortune but love it.

buzzy hope all is well with the scan. How mad is it still to be here! (iykwim).

shazza we have added yet more random names if you want them...are you any closer to choosing yet?

Hi to val and ceara and juicy and anyone I have missed, sorry!

Ooh buzzy x posted... I am on two sets of tablets for sickness which mean I'm only sick twice each morning, which is so much better than it used to be. Consultant says they are usually used for chemo patients...odansetron for the anti sickness and ranitidine to help with my stomach to help the sickness more. Tried Three lots of drugs before anything worked so do persist!

thanks crisps I am feeling a little better now but before it was horrendous, I shall write those names down, I have tried buccastem cycilzine and omeprazole, I wonder if the sickness continues i'll need something

crisps we are going for a mountain duet buggy which is even smaller than the duo. we have already bought the carry cots from ebay. we are going to get buggy and car seats after 20 week scan.

Hi All! Can I join? I recognise lots of names from thw egg buddies thread. Got my positive blood test yesterday and I'm spiralling into insanity!

Morning ladies

Welcome nooknook and many congratulations. Very exciting. Hang out here with us. These girls are the best.

Noks. Good luck with the bakathon. I'm happy for you all to come to me but it might not be convenient for Noks and buzz who are coming from Surrey. Also fairy might be able to make it and its the other side of the world for you! If this weather holds what about a picnic? Noks could make cakes and we could all bring something. A lazy afternoon in the park would be lovely and very purse friendly!

Gin happy to discuss nutrition . I'm a little obsessed about it having had to navigate the elimination diet business whilst prepping for treatment and now in pregnancy. A quick protein tip though is a good quality protein powder. Not the tastiest thing but fine in a fruit smoothie. Cause I'm no dairy (sort of) I have a hemp one. Mine is pulsin and you can get it on amazon. It was recommended by a nutritionist.

Ceara and mrsH DP confirmed that my bump is low so apparently that means I'm having a boy or a girl! Those old wives were clearly abit doolally . I also heard that you are beautiful whilst pregnant with a boy while a baby girl robs the mother of her beauty. Charming!

Vall well done for the stabbing. Good luck for today fingers crossed the levels are nice and high.

Buzz poor you with the antibiotics. And to you and crisps for the anti sickness drugs. Oh my goodness. It must seem like the drug taking never stops. I knew I was lucky to avoid sickness but didn't really realise how bad it was for you guys. Twice a day is good? I really feel for you.

Crisps I can't believe your MW. What a shame she isn't more positive. Do you feel you need more support? Can you change? You need someone you can trust and feel good about to see you through this time. Hurrah for the school holidays though.

Fairy randomly I dreamt about you last night. And your role in the dream had nothing to do with the context in which we have met! Do you play tennis by any chance?!

I'm jealous of you twinnie types with your buggies all picked out. I'm still so confused. Apparent DP came home yesterday and I'd fallen asleep on the sofa propped up with my feet up on the back of the sofa (apparently they need to be higher than my heart to help reduce swelling) and id been watching pushchair reviews on the iPad. He took a picture!

I did soak my feet in cold water and it was blissful. The swelling went down for a bit but then came back later. Last night I slept (if you can call it that) with an elaborate system of pillows between my legs under the bump and under my feet to raise them up.

Last day of graduation today. Back in the office tomorrow. It's been busy but fun. Have a good day all.

Congratulations nook! Come and share your disappearing symptoms, spotting and general fretting with us!

Legs higher than heart is right shazz, not exactly easy though. Especially at work.

It is 27 degrees in my bedroom where I'm currently feeding Trenchlet. I'm planning several trips in the car today as that's got air con. I'll be walking round and round Sainsburys to keep cool and buying one item, then onto Asda to do the same.

hi all! I'm not afraid to admit I've been thoroughly enjoying this proper summer weather! Although my feet do look rather sausage like by the end of the day.

crisps and buzzy my god, I feel so sorry for your MS. I had it but only moderately. You poor things, it really robs you of the enjoyment of finally being pregnant. and crisps I think your MW was being unnecessarily "realistic" - by the time you get to 16 weeks the chances of anything going majorly wrong are very small. This is not to say there is no risk or it never happens (as there are women on this thread who have had terrible tragic events) but I think you can lighten up a bit once you've had the 12 week scan. And I don't think not buying anything makes any difference psychologically, if things do go wrong the fact you've spent a few pounds on a cute babygro or whatever will hardly make a difference to how you feel.

ceara wonderful news on your test results. I hope it sets your mind a bit at ease. I like the term "pelvic rest" - it makes me think of floating in some sort of giant hammock.

mrs glad you had a good holiday and have your 22 week scan coming up. I don't use the Mumsnet app on my phone, just via their mobile website and it works fine.

vallinna I hope the HCG levels were good yesterday?

nooknook congrats on the positive results and welcome to the thread! I lurk occasionally on the IVF pre-preg thread because I graduated from there back in April so I recognise your name. Really fantastic that it's worked for you.

shazza hmmm - I've never actually played tennis so if I was a whizz in your dream it was definitely not me!

AFM I had a bit of bright red bleeding this morning but after some investigation I determined it was from the back parts, must be an internal pile or something. I was hugely relieved - which made me think how odd pregnancy is in that you are actually relieved to find that you are only experiencing internal intestinal bleeding!

Otherwise the little one is being very active these days and the other evening DH and I could definitely feel a hard little backbone and vertebrae through my bump. She really jumps around in the afternoon, I was at a work meeting the other day and I was sure it was visible to anyone else who may have been looking (it was a very dull meeting). Having said that she's just woken up and rolled over.

hello to anyone else i've left off - i need to actually do some work now!

mariana sorry I didn't see your post about the hot weather until after I posted mine - a 27 degree bedroom does sound terribly hot! And I did very much enjoy going into air-conditioned Tesco yesterday.

fairy, I love it usually, just not so easy with a newborn but have discovered the front room downstairs is much more pleasant. I laughed at your relief at only bleeding from the bum. Yes, that's fine!

Welcome Nook - I am relatively fresh here (4+5) so I am in a suitable state of panic and anxiety.

Shaz hope your ballooned legs have deflated a bit!

Mariana DS's room has been 30 degrees. He has a fan pointed directly at him but he is not a happy bunny. Makes bed time almost non-existant fun.

Not envious of the severe morning sickness. I have a 'very nice' level of nausea/acid indigestion going on which I had with DS too. It's very reassuring. My boobs are also getting to the 'itchy' sensitive stage so I can only hope everything is going in the right direction. Will get my second HCG later on this arvo (Fairy they didn't test them yesterday)...mildly stressing. Also found out today my clinc don't scan at 6 weeks but at 7-8. That extra 10 day wait will kill me.

vallinna my clinic didn't scan before 7 weeks either but they said it was because before then it is too inconclusive because you can't always see a heartbeat and the growth is so tiny (eg a millimetre here or there). They said it was better to wait and be sure rather than go early and end up with a false result, which I can see the logic of. However, I certainly found the wait between week 4 when I had my beta HCG and week 7 when I had the scan, the most stressful of my life, more so probably than the 2ww.

Fairy I am totally with you on that. I go from fine and positive to pessimistic and upset in a blink of an eye.

I am the former at the moment though as just got my results. Progesterone 66.1 (up from 22.1) and HCG has nearly tripled to 1836 (up form 616.7). I am ectatic.

Viability scan booked for 3pm on 6 August (7+3) - anyone care to take bets on how insane I go between now and then?!

Thanks for the welcomes!

Vanilla my scan is on 13th August so I'm right behind you!