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Pregnant (IVF) Worriers

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Dildals · 31/03/2013 16:46

Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others!

A few of us graduated from the IVF thread (link below) and are having a go at our own thread to get out of the other IVF-ers hair! So get your roomy jogging bottoms on for some virtual hand holding, mutual symptom spotting and staying sane until the next scan date.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1691674-Excellent-Egg-Buddies-continued-Anyone-having-IVF-ICSI-in-Jan-Feb-and-March-2013-please-join-us

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Shazzamattazzerly · 04/04/2013 15:23

You might all like to read this. One of the girls posted it on the ivf thread. It's very reassuring re symptoms.

abeautifulday.blogs.com/when_ivf_worksthings_the_/2010/05/when-ivf-.html.

Shazzamattazzerly · 04/04/2013 15:24

Thanks Expat. Xx

Dildals · 04/04/2013 15:36

AAAAHHHH, finally! :-)
I have frantically been stalking and refreshing this thread for the last couple of hrs now! I was starting to get worried!

CONGRATULATIONS!

Your ovaries are only unremarkable compared to what they see usually, ie bloated ovaries due to stimming! I am still harbouring a 6cm monster follicle in there!

I told DH about your DP's gaffe ... funny in a way but also SO NOT funny!

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MarianaTrench · 04/04/2013 15:43

What a lovely relief Shazz. Hope you're feeling very happy indeed.

Dildals · 04/04/2013 15:45

Good to read that about spotting on your link, I didn't know that.

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MrsHY1 · 04/04/2013 15:57

Hi Expat, I did on this one because it was a natural FET with trigger, but I asked and it would have definitely been out of my system 16 days later, plus my HCG wouldn't have been as high as it was, so at least I can rule that out! Normally I'd say 80% was OK but my previous embryos were 100% so I guess I didn't believe it because of that!
Shazza I'm so pleased! Reading your little description of mini Shaz brought a little tear to my eye. You must be SOOOOOO happy and relieved. And thank you, what you're saying makes perfect sense. I've actually already bought the CB digital so that's my decision made. I suppose if it's 1-2 I'll be OK but ideally I'll be looking for 2-3. I think it's the conception indicator thingie that freaks me out! x

ExpatAl · 04/04/2013 15:57

I can't make the link work. Am I doing something wrong?

ExpatAl · 04/04/2013 15:58

Don't put much into the digitals. Mine said 1-2 weeks when my hcg was in its thousands.

Shazzamattazzerly · 04/04/2013 17:50

I've probably not done the link right. I am using the MNapp so I copied the link from my browser. I remember when Tilly posted the link I couldn't get it to work and had to write it down. Abit laborious but worth it. It's a nice little blog and makes you feel better.

I'm really happy. Me and shazlett just had a nap. Its been an emotionally tiring day. Thats one bit of pregnancy I'm enjoying. I never usually nap! I've also made my appts at FMC. 2 scans in 2 weeks plus harmony for £180. It will be worth the money for peace of mind. Then we have the nhs scan the following week. So we will be well acquainted!

I hope the testing makes you feel better Mrs H x

ExpatAl · 04/04/2013 18:47

MrsH, did you pee? Are you agonising over whether a positive really really really means a true positive?

fairypangolin · 04/04/2013 19:48

shazza what fantastic news! So happy for you and shazlett, it really is a miracle. I imagine you could forgive your DP for his spectacular clock-fail after that! They definitely are remarkable ovaries. :-)

MrsHY1 · 04/04/2013 20:07

Nope, not peeing til the morning!

Shazzamattazzerly · 04/04/2013 22:34

Well done MrsH I always did mine first thing as well.

Thanks fairy and everyone. I did forgive him in the end. It is spectacularly like him though. Dozy artist type what can I say?! And at least we have a tale to tell.

One more day of work then 2 whole weeks off. Can't wait.

Night girls.

X

Ps Mariana how are you today? The days are flying by Smile x

keepitgoing · 05/04/2013 04:37

shaz!! :) :) so happy for you. I still had a big follow last week too, which I wasn't expecting - I thought the sucked everything out. dildals you still have one? Shock When are you going to Amsterdam? BTW I will be going on a 14 hour train ride at about 11 weeks if all goes well.

Mrs good luck for the cbd. I had a second blood test at 5+1 so did not do too many test. Plus on most they're just positive and then that's that. Re the 80% thing, I think little is known about embryos...

Right, can we talk about sex....? Who's done it and when. My doctor's said no, but he's said no to everything, so I'd like to canvass opinions. I've not done it since the night before ET. I agree with dildals that flatulence could be embarrassing. And there's the fact my fanny's like a waxy slide. But if we can get past this, what's the verdict on sex and more importantly orgasms.

MrsHY1 · 05/04/2013 07:59

Grin keep I've been wondering the same thing! I've not received any doctors advice but I'm both worried about the waxy vag (the old English expression about sex, 'to dip one's wick', would be very apt) and also the fact that a, ahem, special moment, might somehow dislodge the embie (although that must be incredibly unlikely, no?)
As far as I see it, we could:

  1. Switch our candles to the back door and go for it (bit worried about changing my administration route though)
  2. Switch to the back but not 'enjoy' sex- what's the point
  3. Abstain
  4. Not switch?

As you can see, my logical mind has been working this one over Wink

AFM, I tested on my digi this morning and got pregnant 2-3, so at just 5+2 I'll take it. Grin

Shazzamattazzerly · 05/04/2013 08:01

Thanks Keep!

Oh thank God someone has mentioned the S word. I haven't done it since 5 march. I know this cause it was before we knew I was pg and it really hurt. I thought my insides were swollen from the DR drugs. Since then I've been 1. too put off by the (as Keep puts it) waxy slide, 2. Worried that we would be banging on shazlett's door with a battering ram and 3. Horror of horrors just not fancying it. Where are the sexy pregnancy hormones? Probably stuck in the same myth as my blooming rosy complexion, lustrious hair and maternal instinct Wink.

However I can no longer request that DP refrains from pressing into my back of a morning and we are going on a weeks holiday next week. Also the nurse yesterday said it was perfectly safe. Added to this I stopped the pessaries yesterday. I am panty liner free today, fresh as a daisy.

Zita says no sex til 12 weeks but I think that I'm going to tentatively try next week. As for the big O to be honest I think that I'm going to be so preoccupied with protecting shazlett I'd be amazed if I manage that as well Grin

Sorry that was long. This is clearly an issue playing on my mind. What thinks everyone else?
X

Shazzamattazzerly · 05/04/2013 08:05

Hi MrsH we cross posted. Well done for you test. Yep you are def pg!

I'm impressed with your logical thoughts re sex. I had also considered the back door option but then had my 2. And 3. Problems still in the way.

X

fairypangolin · 05/04/2013 08:19

mrshy yay! Glad you have that reassurance. You really are pregnant. I didn't believe it either for ages.

On the DTD front, my clinic said you might want to avoid it the first 7 weeks but don't be too hung up about it. I really don't think it could possibly dislodge an implanted embryo but if you did DTD and then had a mc you might always beat yourself up about it. I say go for it if you are that way inclined. Things have been rather subdued around here largely because my nausea got v bad in the evenings and with a 5yr old after bedtime is really the only time going. However the nausea is now better and DH loves my new bounteous bosom so hopefully things will liven up a bit before I become elephantine.

MarianaTrench · 05/04/2013 09:09

Waxy slide?! Sorry but that did make me laugh.

I think shagging is generally considered safe as long as you've had no bleeding. I am way too fearful to do it though, at all. I've basically told my husband that there is plenty of time for recreational sex once this is over with and he admits he'd be nervous anyway because of our history, so it would hardly make for anything momentous. Also I feel totally and utterly unsexy during pregnancy, no blooming here, or lustrous hair. Oh apart from on my belly, which looks like a massive kiwi fruit. I also have SPD, sciatica, constant nausea and constipation, none of which I find particularly aphrodisiacal!

So I reckon do it if you're up for it as you may well not be later on!

Dildals · 05/04/2013 09:21

I finally managed to come up with a vaguely scientific reason as to why some clinics say no to sex.

Anyway so ... they always say that sex induces labour and they also use this sort of cream to soften the cervix to bring on labour (and for ERPCs). This is because both sperm and the cream contain prostaglandins, which softens the cervix.

So I guess the clinics must be of the opinion that the prostaglandins in sperm could cause a miscarriage. (although there is also scientific research that having sex around ET facilitates implantation - so go figure).

As I said this is vaguely scientific because this was just my recent light bulb moment.

As you all know entire populations have been created by the human species doing all the 'wrong' things, so if you want it go for it, go for it.

Personally I was quite keen to get back on the horse, basically because I want to keep DH happy. I really fancy staying married to him. Also, he'd be a great help in the double nappy changing stakes. I was also a bit scared that if we would fall out of the routine too long, it will be difficult to get back. But I am a bit paranoid about these things. I will litterally go 'we need to have sex now because it's been too long!'.

euro had some massive sexy pregnancy hormones going if you remember, but yeah, my headspace is pretty much filled with things baby (and food) and I occasionally try and make space for sex. ;-)

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Dildals · 05/04/2013 09:25

keep One? I have two!

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Dildals · 05/04/2013 09:25

Well, last time I looked anyway.

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Shazzamattazzerly · 05/04/2013 09:47

Mariana I know you have had a rough ride but I did smile at your list there. I also feel so unsexy (which is unusual). However I agree with dildals in that I'm worried that if we get out of the habit it is hard to start up again. We have had this before during a period of extreme anxiety so I know that it will be ok eventually but I'm very aware of the lack now. However now that dildals has put a very valid sounding scientific theory into the mix I'm properly confused again.

Fairy I am so jealous of the bounteous boobies. My boobs have never been close to being bounteous and I thought that this was my chance that they might at least wobble abit but nothing yet. Is it possible that they won't change? Or are they late developers (story of my entire life!) x

MarianaTrench · 05/04/2013 09:51

Dildals, get back on that horse then! But if it's any reassurance we have gone months without doing very much and it's always been possible to get back into it in between pregnancies. All it usually takes on my part is booze. My husband is extremely tolerant though, I'm often surprised he is still with me.

ExpatAl · 05/04/2013 10:04

Aha. The big S.
We were told it didn't matter but that it might be uncomfortable for me. We did do it a couple of days before transfer with the dubious theory that our bits would be more likely to recognise each other. Well it worked! Haven't done it since - superstition reigns supreme.

Mariana, how are you feeling? The days are ticking away nicely.

Mrs H, hurray! The time before the first scan seems sooooo long. Will you get one at 6 weeks or so?