Type 1 diabetic mums & mums to be damn that dawn phenomenon!

[SpottyTeacakes]

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I think I'm lucky because my hospital actually runs a joint antenatal clinic. I don't know how usual that is though. On arrival we see MW for BP, weight & dip stick. Then wait to see DSN and MW together - MW does doppler, DSN discusses BG results etc. Then obs/gynae and diabetic consultant together - normally a chat about control, any specific issues, and since I'm on a pump and they normally have students in with them, we have a little show and tell session :o (and eg in my 1st PG one of the diabetic consultant's students had a look in my eyes to see the "downtown Baghdad" scarring from laser treatment...). Good job I don't mind being a guinea pig! I really like the service and find it reassuring that the consultants will often chat to each other about different aspects so they're both learning all the time, IYSWIM.

I always saw dsn, mw, ob and diabetes consultant in the same room at the same time

Mines is much the same rue and spotty i see a midwife diabetes nurse and/or endo as well as at least 1 consultant sometimes 2 but the final say is the consultants tho im not sure they know much about eyes guess i will find out when i ask if its better for my eyes to bf or not

Puds, no experience of this but I can confirm that my requirements kept on rising until the day DS was born.

The consultant also told me to report straight away any drop immediately,especially towards the end. Have never heard anyone say that you would expect a drop at 36 weeks. I suggest asking to see a doctor rather than a mw - so much better safe than sorry.

Hey mummyBona how's it going??

Hi spotty. Am so loving it. Today has been tough because Teddy is still not latching properly so every three hours have played boob tag, then finger feeding banked colostrum with syringe and then expressing again. After which it is usually time to start again!! Has felt massively draining aalthough teddy is a joy.

But tonight he showed real signs of improvement. We're not there yet but I think something might have clicked into place for him as he was suddenly doing more of the right stuff! Also the mw on duty tonight took a real interest and think will help me tonight.

All being well will be home tomorrow. Seems I've been gone weeks but this is only night 4!!

Ah that's really good news, I suppose if it isn't already your milk will come in imminently. Felix didn't latch when he was first born and didn't start rooting for about a week but at a week and a half when I first got to feed him he did really well. Sounds like you're doing a great job

Eee MummyBona!! Hope you're home soon to enjoy your gorgeous new bundle

I'm going to try getting to the bottom of things tomorrow hopefully. So frustrating though that I have to push this...

Thanks all

Puds good luck. Totally share your frustration with you - they should be all over this like a rash to ensure everything is a ok.

The range of knowledge and levels of care I have received in relation to the diabetes since I have been in is extra ordinary. Some are clueless, some all over it, some happy to trust I know my own condition and treatments , some clearly haven't learned anything new about diabetes since the days of mixed insulin!!!

Will need to post some details of it all when I get the chance. It might all help someone else in the future. Right, 11pm boob tag beckons!

Hoping I'm thinking this one is going to come early too! Hope your back's not too bad :-( mine is starting to niggle.

Just to check with everyone re my falling insulin requirements...my dawn phenomenon has now totally stopped too????!!!! Did this happen to anyone at around 35 weeks?

Totally went for me but it's not something I really struggle with anyway.

Re hospital staff not knowing what they're talking about. When ds was in SCBU one nurse was explaining to another about ds and said to me 'why were you induced again? Oh yes because you had poor control' still makes me angry now stupid woman.

puds yes for around 5 days i stopped having to battle the morning rise my levemir was reduced by 2u then it came back not as severe but still there and had to put it bk up plus another 2u but my rapid hasnt gone back up by much.

spotty thats shocking!! I doubt i could have held my tonge wtf do they know! I hate sometimes that even health prof dont seem to understand what a struggle managing diabetes and real life is!

Oh well that might be what I need to do Hoping. I put it down by 1u last night but was up in the night hypoing. They better take me seriously today....

Spotty I'd have been absolutely livid!!!!! The ignorance! Oooh I've gone slightly red with rage thinking about that!

puds i had a cpl night hypos and a fair few during the days before i adjusted my doses still do but it seems to vary alot wg i woke up at 8.2 yesterday despite taking 4u at 4am took an extra 3u with breakfast and was rose to 11.8 by 11am took 4u and was 5.4 by 13.15 when i had lunch then went low by dinner! Im not sure whether feeling stressed worrying about my eyes is affecting it or not of im honest.
Def phone sum1 who listens today dont let then fob u off

I can second bona's experience towards the end puds - my insulin requirements kept on rising, no drop for me.
But I blooming heck your team sounds infuriating!

Good news bona, you sound human again! And like you're both doing well. Have you named your little man Edward? Or is Teddy just the equivalent of "sweetie" etc?

Oops - forgot to tell you we'd named him Ted! Full name is William Theodore Surname.

Long story but basically we both loved Ted but DH wanted Edward and I wanted Theodore. DH thought Theodore sounded too posh as a first name (he has a 'posh' name and feels it was a curse as a little boy!). So our slightly odd compromise was to call him William with Theodore as a middle name but to actually use Ted as his given name. Complicated enough?!

It's a lovely name Bona DD would have been William if she'd been a boy, but DS is actually Edward

How weird: no joke, but I had a premonition that you'd call him William when I heard that he'd been born. Spooky
Theodore is a lovely name!

Lovely name!! I also live Theodore but as dp is common says f instead of th it was a no go

How weird with the Williams and Edwards!

Urgh. Ted has lost 12% of his birth weight and they want to put him on a feeding plan including formula. Currently hooked up to a pump even tho milk not in yet. Did this happen to anyone else?

Hmmm Bona.... Ds had formula before my milk came in. There wasn't much I could do about it. But that was to do with his sugar levels not weight gain.... Umm I say post in the breastfeeding topic as you will get the best advice there. Also have you asked to see a feeding specialist/lactation consultant? How do you feel about formula? I think your milk will come in this evening tbh in the meantime keep pumping you can completely avoid bottles by opting for cup feeding, syringe or even tube.

Also they know your milk isn't in of course he won't have gained weight like a ff baby or a bf baby who's mum's milk came in after two days....

What a lovely name bona my ds has had our baby name picked since we found out what we were having lol

Do any of u guys take (outwith pregnancy) any supplements? Googling is prob not my friend but have seen suggestions of taking cartiod supplemnets to help with eye help and a few that help with bg control?

*eye health

Gorgeous name!!! My DS had formula in hosp for BS levels and I then went on to breastfeed for 10 months - so try not to get too worried just yet. Hard I know. Hope your milk comes in tonight It's quite an experience!

I know it's a bit lazy but I'm not going to harvest any colostrum...I just don't want to add more stress to the situation. I'm just going to rely on syringe ff if the baby is low and then bf (hopefully - my toddler is going through a weird clingy stage which may make things difficult!)

So....have spoken to DSN. I reckon requirements have dropped by about 30% rather than the 50% I initially feared. Anyhow they're just not concerned at all and the only advice was to watch the baby's movements (which always sounds vague to me) and reduce insulin accordingly.

I'm still really concerned about it but I trust my DSN and I'm not sure what else I can do?

Hoping I was on 3u per 10g for lunch and dinner and now on just over 2u per 10g. Is that much more of a drop than you?

puds since 30 weeks i havent been able to work out a ratio at all do have mostly stuck to similar things for breakfast/lunch and my only varation is dinnertime or if im out n about. Very roughly if say im still on at least 3u per 10 for breakfast, this has just risen back up the way from 2u between 34-35 weeks lunch im now around the same myb slightly less and dinner is pure guesswork tbh on around 35u of rapid more if im bad and eat out tho strangley ive found a small chicken tikka kebab requires much less insulin than id normally have i guess the only carbs in it is the small pitta bread but the tons of chicken and salad in it r filling and i feel like i can join in takeaway night lol