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Type 1 diabetic mums & mums to be damn that dawn phenomenon!

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SpottyTeacakes · 13/03/2013 10:51

New thread ladies Smile

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BonaDea · 19/04/2013 18:56

I've had a few glasses! My main reason not to have a small one every night is only because I fear it could make waking in the depths of the night even more tricky!!

mylittlepuds · 19/04/2013 19:07

I've been having a small one a night - it's lovely but I fear it could soon turn into one and a half! Must be strong!

Has those with babies here eased up on control? I have...

BonaDea · 19/04/2013 20:39

Puds - yes! It's a lovely feeling. Having said that, levels running pretty low and I'm 'getting away' with things because of bf'ing I think! Today I had a few 12's (not sure why it hovered at that particular level) and tho I wasn't exactly thrilled I just shrugged it off and didn't fret Grin

mylittlepuds · 19/04/2013 22:15

Well the first week was pretty much a total write off diabtes wise but now I'm into my second week I've started to bring things in. I want to be an old lady with grandchildren after all! It's so lovely the not fretting thing. Have any of you had counselling to try and deal with the stress we're put under during pregnancy? I think it really contributed to my anxiety issues last time and it's only now with a bit of perspective I can see that.

Anyone believe in woo here? Today I was out for the first time with the double buggy. Before Pudlet was here I was still in somewhat of a mess psychologically, still trying to deal with all of my anxiety issues sparked off after DS. Anyway one of the things I did to try and help myself before she was here was to draw a picture of how anxiety felt to me and one of how I'd like to be. It was a picture of me pushing a pram looking totally calm and relaxed wearing a striped top (I have a total obsession with striped clothing...). Anyway today I felt like I was the picture! It was staggering - particularly given I've walked around for two years in a constant state of stress and now just a week after birth of DD I'm feeling so calm and relaxed. I mean I still have anxiety issues but still. I was in a right state after DS. Soooo....I reckon you should all give it a shot! Apparently Tom Daley drew a picture of himself at the 2012 Olympics when he was 12 and I've heard a few other people say visualisation works! It might not be woo...it could just be that you're psychologically focused on something and therefore working toward it. But either way - worth a try!

Sorry for the essay - just thought I'd share. Hope you don't mind!

BonaDea · 19/04/2013 23:00

Hi puds - it's so great hearing you so positive! I wish I could tap into some of it!! After all the anxiety issues you described during the pregnancy, it is wonderful to hear you feeling so calm and relaxed.

Haven't ever done visualisation or similar. I am a bit of an old sceptic, me... However maybe I should give it a shot. Things are hardly dreadful here but do feel pretty overwhelmed still by all my new responsibility, the radical way in which my day to day life has altered and just the physical exhaustion of having a newborn. In my mind I keep looking ahead to the mythical point at which things 'get easier'. Most folks seem to suggest this happens about 6 weeks - only two weeks to go and there'll be hell to pay if it doesn't happen! Wink

Re counselling. Don't think I need it about pregnancy but I know that our whole hospital stay fiasco has definitely affected me. For now I have bundled up the feelings, shoved them in an unhealthy little box in my head and hidden the key until I am feeling stronger and more able to face what happened.

SpottyTeacakes · 20/04/2013 08:06

Five hours in a row and I cleared that bastard duct!

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dieciocho · 20/04/2013 08:36

Yes, bona I'm the same - sounds lovely for you, though, puds.

I might try dealing with my birth emotions when I see my obstetrician, who has amazingly Shockresponded to my letter by inviting me to visit her clinic to discuss any future births! Wow Grin.

puds I'm having a 125ml glass of wine every other evening (since baby was a month old), so now I feel more normal and back in the real world! Her feeding seems fine.

BonaDea · 20/04/2013 18:54

Those with babies older than 4 weeks - when did you try to establish a rough bed time routine? Obviously at this age DS has to be fed when he's hungry and sleep when he's tired. But do you think establishing a rough bed time routine could be a good idea?

I'm trying to cluster feed between 5-8 (depending on what else is happening) then put DS down in the pram with us in the living room until the late evening feed around 10.30 then bed for us both.

Currently baths are 2-3 times a week and usually during the day. Would you recommend one every night at this age as part of the bed time thing? Trouble is that with cluster feeding, if we bath him after that is done, dinner seems to be pushed ridiculously late. Maybe I could aim for cluster to 7.30 then bath and down with our dinner about 8.30.

It's not like DS is old enough for a story or anything, tho DH usually sings to him while I'm getting ready for bed.... Also, don't really feel like putting him upstairs alone yet - he seems far too tiny.

Any tips? Or is it just way too early?

Also- planning to introduce an expressed bottle soon. Puds - was it you who hoped to do it at 3 weeks this time? I just haven't got round to it but do need to get going I think!!

BonaDea · 20/04/2013 18:56

P.s Diec - good you got a response. Will make you feel better just to be taken seriously I would have thought!!

P.p.s aware my post is nothing to do with diabetes, sorry!!

SpottyTeacakes · 20/04/2013 18:58

Bona I think ds was about eight weeks. He was falling asleep at about 8/8:30 but he naturally brought it to now (just feeding to sleep!).

He has a bath most nights but literally two minutes, he just goes in after dd. then it's into dark bedroom to get into pjs, sleeping bag then I feed him. I could put him down and he'd drift off but currently I lay down and feed to sleep and leave him on our bed for fear of him waking up!

Give it a go when you're ready and you can just tweak it to suit you.

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mylittlepuds · 20/04/2013 19:10

Bona yes was hoping to start at three weeks but....

I've been warned by MW it could scupper things. One said it will probably be fine and that nipple confusion is exaggerated in a bid to stop women being lured by the bottle (ha! Like we're recovering drug addicts or something!). Another said it would be fine - using Asian women as an example (apparently they don't feed for three days after birth and then start and all us fine) but finally my main MW said it may be fine but also it may not be...and could scupper everything.

So it's a big decision to make. I might once again wimp out and try at 6 weeks...

SpottyTeacakes · 20/04/2013 19:13

I was told in SCBU (by the best nurse) that it really depends on the baby. Drinking from a bottle is easier.... I do think it's when people throw formula into the mix that it's more likely to all go wrong.

We've had the most success (ds isn't keen on bottles we haven't tried that often) doing a dream feed because then he doesn't realise Wink

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RueDeWakening · 20/04/2013 20:17

We gave an expressed bottle as a dream feed from about 4 weeks, it never caused any confusion for DD - although I was told that if she seemed to get confused, start a BF using a nipple shield and then remove it part way through, as the shield feels more like a bottle teat IYSWIM.

Also, we kept on using newborn teats right up to 8 or 9 months, as then LO has to work harder to get the milk from a bottle - mean, us? :o

I hope we'll do the same this time, if I can get organised enough and find the time to express!

SpottyTeacakes · 20/04/2013 20:20

Rue I don't have time to express Sad haven't done it for ages, although I suppose it's more that I can't be bothered Grin

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BonaDea · 20/04/2013 21:18

Oh yes and who the hell can be arsed to express? BUT! Don't want to miss the mythical window of opportunity.

One, I'd like to be able to leave DS with my mum or a friend to go out for a date with DH once in a blue moon (eg our first wedding anniversary in july) And two (and this sounds really terrible I know!) my best friend is getting married in Sept and I am organising her hen do. I can't exactly bring DS! Shock

I have also had hugely conflicting advice from - some babies will take to it, some won't - to - there is a very small window of opportunity between 4 and 6 weeks - to - (the latest) oooh although normally it would be ok don't do it until you are through this current rough patch. Oy!

dieciocho · 21/04/2013 09:31

We all know that every baby's different in how they grow, sleep, develop etc, so why not how they take a bottle too? Try it and see. Give a few days. If it works, great. If not, stop and try again a week later.

BonaDea · 21/04/2013 13:24

True, true.

No sign of hoping yet, hope she is ok Hmm

SpottyTeacakes · 21/04/2013 18:10

I've got lumps in my stomach Sad I've had them for years and even though I've avoided injecting there they will not shift. Any miracle cures?

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BonaDea · 21/04/2013 19:13

Not that I know of, think you just have to avoid the area and make sure you rotate other sites (did you know about upper arms?!)

mylittlepuds · 21/04/2013 19:21

Ooh upper arms?!

SpottyTeacakes · 21/04/2013 19:40

I have really skinny arms!! Hmm

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BonaDea · 21/04/2013 21:31

Yes puds , upper arms. Dsn recommended it to me on the basis that some women don't like injecting into their bumps. It didn't bother me personally! She warned me that arms tend to make for fast acting novo so be warned. I tried it a few times but didn't really catch on for me - hard to be discreet if out and about. - but it was easy and pain free.

You don't need much meat on your arms...

SpottyTeacakes · 21/04/2013 21:33

I did try my arms when I was younger but I really hate it. Plus I would only be able to do one arm Grin might just have to get lipo...

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mylittlepuds · 22/04/2013 01:27

Ooh I just don't know if I dare so brave... I get used to my little ways and change where diabetes is concerned I find hard. So Novo in tummy, long acting in legs. Anyone else like that when it comes to diabetes?

Anyway...I had an awful experience tonight. I'm on CGM and less than an hour after eating I started to drop; rapidly. I'd had 7.5u with LOADS of carbs - probably about 100g. I went from about 6.9mmol to 4.9mmol in about three minutes and the arrow on my monitor was directly down. Now I realise this seems okay as I was within range but it was how quickly I was dropping that really, really upset me. I drank a WHOLE bottle of Luco (80g) as I know from early pregnancy drops that it's needed to correct a vertical drop like this. After about 20 minutes I stopped dropping and things levelled out. I really dread to think what would have happened without fore warning. DH says I should just be glad that I can be warned but these kind of drops make me fear for my life. I know that sounds dramatic but they really do. What if I didn't know how serious it was and had a couple of mouthfuls of Luco like I usually do? Or was having a night off the CGM/it wasn't working correctly which is often the case? I even ran through to my DS to give him a kiss 'just in case' - that's how petrified I get.

So my question for you is two fold. Do I need to panic like this when I'm dropping that fast? And what the hell caused it? My levels have been shitty since birth but that's been self inflicted highs. Is it the start of breast feeding hypos? I can't remember their severity from last time.

I've been feeling so positive and this has really kicked off my weird diabetes OCD again - worrying about ODing on insulin etc. Help!!!

SpottyTeacakes · 22/04/2013 01:34

I do long acting in legs and novo in tummy!!

Can't help with the dropping I'm afraid but unless it's a regular occurrence I don't see any reason to panic!

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