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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 09/01/2013 18:32

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

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Pollaidh · 12/03/2013 14:41

Vicki, I don't know it it's worth saying that I've had both bleeding and decreases in sickness and been convinced it's another mc, but had a scan and everything's been fine.

Vickitoriana · 12/03/2013 15:03

Sadly I'm having severe cramping too and the tests at the hospital were faintly positive and then negative... Thanks for the optimism, there is a very faint chance but from my body is saying its game over.

LucindaE · 12/03/2013 15:33

Vicki Oh no, poor, poor you. Hugs. It's too bad to have had Hyperemesis and then an mc. It is such a disappointment, it's hateful. It is odd how these hormones seem to vary,and I find it odd they didn't scan you, they said to me when I had bleeding with an mmc that the test would still be positive and didn't mean anything without a scan. I was suspecting something wrong, and still testing positive after the bleeding started, when the baby had been dead two weeks at lest. Very odd.

Lucinda
xx

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Vickitoriana · 12/03/2013 16:52

They just confirmed it as a 'complete miscarraige' , said the hormone levels were at 2 and 3 so too low to be a viable pregnancy now.She assured me that the cramp and bleeding will stop as soon as my womb is empty. Its been one of the worst days of my life. I dont understand how it happened so quickly, it all just suddenly stopped.

Reebok · 12/03/2013 16:57

Just checking in. Looks like a downward spiral for me. Threw up at work. Wish I could afford to stop working for a while as I feel rubbish but I can't having taken off so long before. Just got to battle on through it all. Odd after feeling so well from around 18 weeks only to feel rubbish again at 21 weeks. Grr

Pollaidh · 12/03/2013 17:58

Oh dear Vicki, I'm so sorry.
From a practical viewpoint you can expect the cramping and bleeding to last maybe 1-2 weeks. If the pain is really bad you can get morphine from the hospital. In some cases it's just like bad period pain. You're supposed to avoid baths and swimming etc while you're bleeding as with the cervix open the water can introduce infection, also no sex or tampons. If the bleeding doesn't seem to stop after a week or so, or you get fever or discharge then get seen asap as there may be some retained bits of the placenta and you could have an infection. They may have to do a small procedure under anaesthetic (it doesn't have to be a general, you can ask for local but it won't be pleasant) to clear your uterus.

Your cycle will resume after a few weeks, you may have a period within about 2 weeks of bleeding stopping or it could be a month or so. If you feel ready to try again (which is a very personal thing) then you can try as soon as the bleeding stops. Doctors sometimes say wait 1-3 months but this is generally to give you time to recover emotionally rather than anything medical. I know I wanted to be ttc immediately, but other people want time for closure and to prepare for the possibility it might happen again. Do what feels right for you.

If this is your first mc then it's most likely just awful bad luck and there's no reason for it to happen again. It's most likely a simple genetic error in the baby's blueprint - when the construction of the baby got to the bit with an error then it couldn't continue. Genetic errors are related to parents' age, but otherwise just bad luck, but also unlikely to happen again. After 1 mc I'm afraid the doctors are unlikely to investigate, as it's so common and most people go on to have a successful pregnancy after. Only after 2-3 mc do they start to do tests.

Please forgive the brain dump of practical advice and be sure that I know that knowing your future chances of a successful pregnancy are good does not bring back the baby you've lost. When people are trying to get pregnant they want a baby, not just a blue line. Losing a baby is a terrible, empty, wrenching feeling.

When/if you do decide to ttc again there are 2 steps you can take (1) start taking the anti-emetics as soon as you know you are pregnant, to prevent future HG, and (2) early pregnancy units are often quite sympathetic to women who have had miscarriages before, and you may be able to have an early scan. You won't be able to relax though and the pregnancy can be quite hard emotionally.

Consider whether you want to do something to remember your baby, like plant a bush or give a donation to a children's charity. Get nice people around to support you (there are lots of online groups too), and try to ignore those who inadvertently say the wrong thing. You might feel bitter or awkward around friends with babies, and this is completely natural and will get better with time. I think it's best to explain if so, most people will understand.

I hope this helps. Thinking of you. xx

P.S apologies to everyone else on the HG forum for going off-topic. I have read somewhere though that there is a correlation between early mc and hyperemesis (as in people who get HG are also more likely to have a history of early mc). Does anyone know more about that?

PrincessRichards · 12/03/2013 18:46

Vicki, such terrible news - my heart goes out to you.

Reebok - not good to hear things aren't looking better, I know the feeling of hope that it might start to go away just to rear it's ugly head again!

Lucinda - I'm still not myself and still sick first thing but I'm managing to eat more. Been to docs today to get more Cyclizine and she tested my keatones and I have non which is good. I can def say after suffering with my first until 26 weeks and getting treatment this time it's helped so much! Would still like a day where I don't feel like I'm on a boat but hey ho I guess we can't have it all eh

Waves - not good to hear there is no improvement Hmm

Hugs and thoughts to everyone else who is suffering xx

Vickitoriana · 12/03/2013 18:47

Thanks so much for all of that, its lovely you took the time to write it all... Thanks for giving me an idea of timescales and what to look out for etc... I am feeling a little more human as, physically, things have started to calm down.

Sorry to everyone else if i have pulled te thread off topic...

Hyperemesis is vile, its the only thing that i am relieved about is that i dont have to suffer it again, i feel guilty for feeling that way but it really is awful.

Good luck to the rest of you, thanks for your support, and enjoy your little ones :)

Reebok · 12/03/2013 19:19

Vicky, I'm so sorry for your loss. I know what it feels like to mc while suffering from hyperemesis as I experienced it last year. Time is honestly the greatest healer and while it stays with you...it does get easier. Sending you hugs.

wavesandsmiles · 12/03/2013 19:33

vicki more sympathy for your loss from me. I hope that you have plenty of support.

reebok I'm sorry that the HG is rearing its angry head again. I'm still in the throes and now 20 weeks pregnant. Still a long way to go. I managed to keep down some toast with jam on it at hospital today which is great news for me.

Lotta1234 · 12/03/2013 19:35

Vicki so sorry for your loss. I had hyperemesis in my first pregnancy and MMC. It was a very difficult time but time does help and I think a number of us HG sufferers have lost babies. Big, big hug.

fl0b0t · 12/03/2013 19:49

vicki a little more sympathy from my corner- especially after the HG too- must be really awful. We're all thinking of you and don't worry about hijacking the thread. The sickness really is bad joke, and I hope that this week picks up and that you have lots of support at home to look after you.

Today I have had a good day (which I feel very guilty for, but nothing to be done :( )- scan went well and I worked at home the rest of the day, which meant I had the energy to make a nice dinner. I feel pretty horrific now, but it was worth it.

Must be bed time now though, right?

I've been cheekily arranging my work plans (where possible) around getting as much sleep as possible, and having to visit the office (my longest work days ever) a minimal number of times per week (i.e once this week!)

Vickitoriana · 12/03/2013 19:52

Thank you all so much... Your sweetness and kind words are making me cry... Again! :)

Lotta1234 · 13/03/2013 07:38

I have had a disaster nauseous night. So much for feeling better ... Bleurgh. Hope everyone else managed to get some sleep.

Vicki another big hug. do keep in touch with us. and I'm sure you'll be back soon. encouraging esearch I read after I MC was this: m.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/aug/06/bmj-advice-for-women-who-miscarry But obviously only try when you're ready.

RoomForALittleOne · 13/03/2013 08:20

Vicki so sorry about your loss. I've had two miscarriages and the sickness is a horrible thing to put up with.

Lotta I've had a horribly nauseas night as well and I'm sat in the GP waiting room to have my GTT. The ondansetron had better not let me down!

LucindaE · 13/03/2013 12:52

Vicki ThanksI don't expect you feel like talking about the next before you've mourned the first, but I am wishing you a lovely non Hyperemesis successful pregnancy next time. I didn't even realise one could have Hyperemesis and a mc until this thread, I had an mmc and then the run in with Hyperemesis. Do keep in touch.
Reebok Oh no, this is worse than a bad day, then? It must be so difficult, teaching feeling like that. And you're still on the meds? wasn't it you who's dr wouldn't prescribe Ondansetron? Are you still on cyclazine? Might s/he anyway change that?
Poll So agreeabout nervousness. following mcs. That is a lot of worthwhile stuff to know about mc's.
Princess Twenty six weeks last time?! Aagh! I do hope it goes off earlier this time.Glad ketones low...
Waves I am keeping all fingers and toes crossed that that jam and toast was a sign of a turnaround. How are you today?
Room You've probably had test by now, if not, good luck, how horrible after a nauseated night.
FloSorry about foul night.
Hope Everyone is coping today.
Lucinda
xx

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LucindaE · 13/03/2013 12:55

Sorry, Lotta it was you who had a foul night!
Lucinda
xx

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chocciemousse · 13/03/2013 13:03

Another one here who has had a terrible morning. Slept for 21 hours yesterday and I am still exhausted. Tried to have a tiny breakfast this morning but it was shortly followed by diarrhoea. I am meant to be returning to work next week and have just found out I have ofsted coming in for 4 days next week! Been vomiting and retching for the last few hours. I don't know how much more of this I can take Sad

Vicki so sorry about your loss. I really hope you are able to recover from this quickly and that you have lots of support. My heart really goes out to you.

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fl0b0t · 13/03/2013 14:30

choccie that sounds bad. Might be best to stay away as work will be just awful. OFSTED is stressful at the best of times, let alone when you're not well enough. And diarrhoea is nasty with sickness/hg. I've only had it once so far, but the smell (eek tmi) made me vomit (luckily I managed to run to the other toilet first!).
suffolk that sounds crappy, but I suppose the good news is that no matter how awful you're feeling, your body is well (ish) and that means it can look after baby even better!

I had a wibbly almost-fainty morning waiting for the train (that was 15 mins late, and I was 10 mins early). Hardly any seats at the station- normally I'd sit on the floor when it's dry but they'd salted and I didn't want to ruin my trousers... so I spent a lot of time crouched down, trying not to draw attention to myself. Have stuffed my face today but just feeling bloated, nauseous, light headed and exhausted. Not sure I can get away with leaving work early or not being in tomorrow (had planned to travel elsewhere for a short day, which has fallen through).

chocciemousse · 13/03/2013 15:09

Thanks Fl0 You're so right. Ofsted is terrible enough when you are well, let alone feeling like this. And yes I find the diarrhoea makes me vomit for the same reason. I need to hold a bowl at the same time eww!! I hope you are ok travelling home tonight with such a long way to travel. Have you got yourself a badge yet? Hopefully people might be more considerate and give you a seat.

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fl0b0t · 13/03/2013 15:27

Oooh must order a badge! Luckily my trains don't tend to be tooooo busy, it's just at the stations where there's only two benches! :)

fl0b0t · 13/03/2013 15:29

ps suffolk either you're superwoman or they need to test again! Do you have ketose sticks? You can pick up a pot of 50 from your local chemist (or get someone else to) and test your urine really easily. I never went (so far!) further than 0.5 (which is "trace") on the ketones which is good as on the whole I could keep liquids down.... have you tried ice lollies? Apparently they go down well as you eat them very slowly

chocciemousse · 13/03/2013 15:31

Maybe once you have your badge you can stand next to one of the benches and hope someone gets the hint hehe