Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Lucinda- i dont think i have a choice about seeing the gp tomorrow... This weekend has been horrendous... Can only tolerate sips of water and have eaten a sandwich and half a salad all weekend... Have nothing in me to puke but my body is still trying too... Am sucking cherrydrops to keep my sugar levels up but have no energy... Have such a headache, im sure its due to dehyration. Plus side though... Have lost three pounds since friday. I feel like a bit of a whinger when i read what some of you are going through, especially waves.

Lotta- interesting about feeling your meds made the vomiting better but the nausea worse. I've always maintained that I could have coped with the being sick if I hadn't had the relentless nausea to contend with. So so debilitating to have that sicky feeling every time you move.

I read somewhere that ketones make you feel sick which is why its such a rapid downwards spiral. Feel sick, don't eat. Don't eat, produce ketones, feel sicker, eat less, ad nauseum (! A latin joke, that's gotta be rare!)
Good luck all x

Thanks so much.., having read the stories of you poof things in hospital, I assume it's just bad MS... But it is still fairly grim. Today was a typical day. Nothing, not even fluids, stayed down till about midday. I can fairly regularly keep lunch down. Fluids, in small sips, are ok for the east of the day, apart from between about 6pm and now, when again, not even uids will stay... Rest of the evening I imagine hot water and jelly sweets will stay down. This time last preg I had gained 1/2 a stone... I've lost 4-5 lbs this time!!! But not losing ny more I think as my tummy is just showing and my boobs are growing! It's just exhausting though!

Really hope all of you in hospital etc start to feel better soon!

poor things, obviously!!!

Bankwuggery- the fact that I'm (mostly) not actually vomiting is obviously brilliant, but I could just about cope with that and like you say, the nausea is so so so hard to deal with every waking second of the day.

Vicki Oh no, you poor thing, how are you, have you seen the dr yet?
Legally It does sound like if things crank up more it could tip over into getting dehydrated, and as it is it is obviously ruining any chance of normal life, so it looks like meds are necessary. Waves is one of the worst cases I have come across on these threads, bar people who have posted but not been on at the time who were in hospital all the time, and I think if she didn't have LO's she would be in hospital all the time, so the fact that you and Flo aren't as bad as that doesn't mean that you are not suffering badly. I think with normal MS you don't have 'significant weight loss'.
Waves How were things yesterday with veins? Room What you said about veins sounds awful too, I remember on a US thread I was asked to take over temporarily about half of them seemed to be on PICC's.
Sorry to anyone rudely ignored. Back soon...
Lucinda
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I just wanted to update on my progress through the ttc mmc hg suffering corridor. I had a very nice doctors meeting this morning basically agreeing that I should start taking cyclizene and vit B as soon as I get pregnant, but then went on to say she'd refer me to a specialist for the mmc bit and I shouldn't even ttc until I see them - which will be for over a month. I'm so frustrated! But at least she recognised my problem and agreed to help - it's more than any other GP has done in the past for me!

Hugs for everyone not feeling well. Legally, I would definitely see your doctor and ask for some cyclizene or similar antiemetics. HG can progress slowly because you get to a point that it's just not possible to keep enough down to keep you going. Don't let it get there, or if you do, make sure they see you at the hospital for rehydration. If you must, go into A and E and collapse on the floor in the waiting room - guaranteed to get you seen! Hehe.

Lucinda- this morning im not so bad... Have managed to eat a couple biccies and they have perked me up a bit.... I was having a bit of a freak out yesterday when i was feeling awful, worried how i will cope, being that im on my own.... Spoken to my DD about it and had a little cry and feel slightly less overwhelmed now... Its like all my pregnancy hormones have hit me at once, that coupled with recovering from fall has made me feel physically and emotionally exhausted. I do feel the MS is gonna develop into full blown HG, i just hope that my GPs listen to me and take action... They didnt seem remotely bothered over the weekend. :(

Welcome to everyone that's joined the thread.

Touch wood I'm doing better. Still nauseous pretty much all the time, lacking energy and tired. Less throwing up which is welcome.

Have 12 wk scan tomorrow so fingers crossed all is well.

And hopeful I'll get back to work in next couple of weeks.

Hello all, good luck for the scan lotta, it is my 20 week scan on Thursday.

It's awful here, gale force 10 winds and heavy snow. I got to hospital for my fluids etc, and they were going through when I had a text from school saying it was closing immediately! Had the rest of my fluids rushed through and bloods taken (2 failed attempts again, so they called the phlebotomist who managed) before I had to drive on shocking roads. Lost a wing mirror and went into the back of a car I didn't even risk driving all the way home as my house is on a steep hill so I parked at school and walked back.

Snow still very bad and not sure how I'll get to hospital tomorrow but definitely need to as I've been vomiting so much this afternoon I've hit the dry retching/hideous yellow or green bile stage. Will have my daughter in tow as we have been told the schools will be shut tomorrow as conditions are getting worse.

I know this will pass, eventually, but it's taking it's time!

For those of you in the early stages, please badger your gps for pre emptive medication. I didn't, and let myself get very very poorly and apparently that causes worse HG.

Waves Oh no, abut accident and more vomiting, it's incredibly cold here in Wales but it sounds worse there - however did you manage to walk back home if you haven't eaten in weeks? The vomiting being so bad after fluids is just too bad - poor, poor you! What you don't need is schools closing.
Lotta That's good news - good luck with scan, I'm sure you don't need it.
Vicki Do keep an eye on ketones, clucks mother hen.
Talyra I'm glad about sympathetic dr - hugs about having to wait to ttc.
Sorry to anyone rudely overlooked.
Lucinda
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Its only a 2 minute walk from school to home thankfully. Even so it was a real struggle. Glad I have the ambulance transporting me tomorrow. Given that stress makes things worse, I reckon the scary drive was enough to make the vomiting so bad.

DD is good as gold so will take some books and colouring to the hospital tomorrow and sure she will be content. More of the same when we get home.

Waves it sounds like you're having such a terrible time, kind of makes me feel like I'm having it easy

Fingers crossed for you tomorrow, hopefully you might get a day out of hospital soon, will be thinking of you.

Flipping ketones are at 3+

I'm just exhausted and so so tired of this.

I'm not surprised waves we're all thinking of you x
lotta we're scan date buddies!

Waves No wonder you're tired of it indeed, so agree with others. I'm joining everyone in thinking of you and cheering you on today as always. You will get there, it will pass, everything does, though I have a nerve to say so, when I didn't suffer anything like so much as you, but I know from so many women on this thread and you will feel the lucky one in time...
All I can do is send you more for your bedside, and hugs. Your DD sounds an angel with her colouring books, that's one thing, does she love her new doll? Mine was a demanding menace to be frank.
Princess How are you doing, and Poll Blonde Vicki and Everyone?
Flo How is the nausea? Was it you who had that horrible puking experience outside the shop? Bins were my speciality (they didn't have lids on in Ealing then).
Lucinda
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Hi everyone. Can I join your thread? I have been popping on and off for the last week but haven't had the energy to join. I am 15 weeks today and have been off work since week 8 with hg. Even though I was diagnosed by my gp at 9 weeks, it wasn't until I saw a consultant at the hospital yesterday that I was given meds. She was furious especially as my ketones were 3+.

It is so great to come across this head. I have had a quick read through some of the posts and it is reassuring to know I am not alone. People just don't understand. Even my mum keeps referring to it as morning sickness and oh it will pass, everyone gets it, it's the sign of a healthy baby. arghh!!

Sorry for the moan.

Chocciemousse Welcome, don't apologise for the moan, that's what this thread is for. That's awfu about the GP diagnoising but not giving meds - I suppose with that level of ketones you were sent for IV fluids? What meds have they on? Are they helping much?
Lucinda
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Hello
Can I ask the experts - how long does the 'new woman' feeling feel like after fluids etc? I've been home from hospital a couple of days and although the first day I was able to eat quite a bit (not as much as a normal person but about 3 days worth for me recently) and food actually sounded interesting although still many aversions. The following day the nausea was terrible although I only vomited a couple of times, but started to lose any interest in food. Now I'm back to being tortured by thoughts of food and only able to eat a few bits of toast. I'm happy that fluids are mainly staying down but I had kind of hoped that the fluids and drugs would make me feel better for quite a while. The nurses gave the impression that I should be improving now.
Thanks

Poll Poor you, most people sadly find it only lasts a short time. I think only lucky people get meds that they find so effective that they feel almost normal afterwards. Sorry for not remembering how far along you are- most people are at their worst between weeks eight and fourteen, say - but even so, unfortunately, while most do feel a lot better in the second tri sometime between weeks fourteen and twenty (sadly there are some who don't, but most do) feeling normal unfortunately isn't very likely during the first tri. A lot still have nausea, but if the meds aren't working and the vomiting starts badly again, you mustn't hesitate to make a fuss and get more.
Lucinda
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Hey.. Sadly i have started to miscarry this morning... I noticed that the MS had significantly decreased yesterday, and had mild cramps last night... When i woke up this morning i could feel i was bleeding. Went to the early pregnancy unit a d A+E initially i was testing positive, but the last one was negative. Im waiting for the confirmation form the blood result, but i know. Wish the MS would bugger off though, am still being sick. Such a horrible morning.:(

Vicki so sorry to hear your news. Do wait for the blood results though. But as you say it doesn't sound very hopeful. If you are beyond 6 weeks then the EPU should scan you to be sure.

Miscarriage is horrible and with all the crazy hormones too you can expect to feel very sad for quite a long time (how long varies). Talk to your partner about how you're both feeling and be kind to yourself. There's nothing you could have done, it's just awful bad luck. In my experience the sickness has lasted a couple of weeks after the mc, and it feels like a rather sick joke to be suffering MS at such a time.

If you get bad pain do go and get some good pain relief from the hospital.

Thinking of you x

Thanks Lucinda, I am at 12 weeks. With my first child the HS peaked from about 10 to 16+ weeks and started getting better at 20 weeks, although I had to keep taking 1 drug until the birth.

Oh well, I had 1 glorious day when food sounded interesting again. Don't think I knew how much of a foodie I am, and how much my days normally revolve around planning meals!

Thanks Lucinda They've put me on cyclizine. I guess it is too soon to tell if they are working or not yet but they make me feel tingly and quite weird. Not to mention even worse fatigue. No, surprisingly I wasn't sent for IV fluids. I had just finished mentioning to her that I was proud of myself for keeping my lunch down (dry toast and tomato) today so maybe she thought I'd be ok? She did glare at me for a long time before she sent me on my way.

Thank, and thats sound advice. Think MS does feeling like a sick joke, as did the positive test when i know whats going on.