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sorry - another gender disappointment thread but I am so down :(

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emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:15

I found out yesterday that we are having a girl.

I KNOW we are the luckiest people in the world to be having a healthy (touch wood) baby. I know there are millions of people who would kill for any kind of baby, most notably my best friend who has had a very upsetting miscarriage and now is struggling to get pregnant again. Needless to say I feel absolutely awful about these stupid and irrational feelings.

But I feel so incredibly disappointed and low. Despite the fact I was obviously prepared for this outcome. 50% chance after all!

But up until now I have thought of this baby as a boy. In my head it has always been a boy. Plus, it took me years to even be sure I should have a child and every time I thought about it, I thought about a boy and that was what made me think I probably should take the plunge one day. I have only ever seen myself with a boy. I have a wonderful bond with my nephews and have never managed the same with my niece. I know this is almost certainly just a personality thing but nevertheless after so many years bonding wit my nephew I saw myself even more as a mother of a boy.

This is not a 'don't like pink' thing. I am not un-girlie myself. This is about a lifelong history of screwed-up relationships between the females in my family, and bullying by girls when I was at school. My mum is a very difficult woman and I dread being like that to my daughter. My sister is almost even more difficult. She and my mum always had an awful relationship. My mum had a terrible relationship with her own mum and sister.

It took me 20 years to make good female friends; I am naturally more shy and uncomfortable around women.

In addiiton, there is DH. He always used to say (only semi-joking) that he would love a child but only if it was a boy. Before you judge him too much (I know that statement on its own sounds bad) he has his own good reasons. He has a hearing impairment that means, as he said rather sadly y'day, that he always thought he would be a better father to a little boy with whom he could run round and kick a ball and wouldn't need to be so verbal, neccessarily, to be a good dad. I know we might have had a son who wanted nothing to do with balls and running around (!) but that is unlikely as DH and I are both v active and love sporty stuff. On more trivial matters, DH is a HUGE sports fan, it is pretty much his main hobby and how he loves to spend time and I know how much he was looking forward to introducing that to his son. Again, I KNOW a son may not have cared about that and I know a girl may be the biggest football fan in the world but I hope you can see why that trivial sense of disappointment is there too.

I can't shake off all those off the cuff and silly (and unwise!) comments DH used to make in the past about wanting a boy and finding girls difficult (he also has a very difficult mother...)

I can't shake off the years-long image of me with a little boy :(

We may very well not have a second child, it's certainly not a probability and I feel I have lost something even if I never had it. I feel evil about thinking this as my best friend lost her baby and my feelings are not at all the same thing.

I said yesterday to DH that it is not that I DIDN'T want a daughter so much as I DID want a son. But I was up all night worrying about it and now I am not so sure. I dread my little girl turning out to feel the way about me that I feel about my mother. I am panicking that I won't know how to bond with her and that she will not be interested in me.

None of this helped by the (very well-meaning) sonographer who kept calling her a 'little princess' and saying she would be a Daddy's girl and I had better get used to being sidelined! Not the ideal thing to hear when you spent your school years being ostracised by a bunch of little cows!!!

Sorry - I know this whole post may be offensive to some people but if anyone has any advice on how to get my head around this, I would appreciate it so much. Thank you.

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cupofteaplease · 30/10/2012 07:23

My little girl died on Wednesday. She was non verbal and severely disabled, but she was my best companion and I miss her terribly.

You will love your daughter. End of story. Stop trying to project your experiences onto her before you've even given her a chance to develop her own personality. I have 3 daughters, none of them are 'little princesses' so don't worry about that.

ajandjjmum · 30/10/2012 07:25

Best to write down your feelings and hopefully this will enable you to deal with them. You will love your little girl - girls love sport too! And in our case, our DD can twist her DF around her little finger far more so that DS can. Of course, a DS would have been wonderful too, but you will grow to love your DD beyond belief.

A friend of mine (who knew she could only have one child) very much wanted a DD. She had a DS who she and he DH absolutely adore.

Try and get these feeling out of the way (in my opinion you've started with this post), and then make yourself focus on the positives of having a DD. You'll never be allowed to get old and frumpy!! Smile

ajandjjmum · 30/10/2012 07:26

cupoftea Sad
Puts in all into perspective - so sorry for the loss of your daughter.

Gumby · 30/10/2012 07:26
Sad

Cup - so sorry for your loss

Op - you'll love you're daughter, you'll be able to forget all the past crap & start afresh with a brand new chapter in your life
Have you considered counselling or family therapy for you & dh?

Tangointhenight · 30/10/2012 07:27

I thought my dd was a boy...we didn't find out the sex but when she was born I had an overwhelming feeling of love.. you will have that too, being mum to a girl is wonderful, and girls can like kicking balls around and rough play too!

Don't feel bad it's natural to feel disappointment when you had your heart set on a boy but honestly when you see her for the first time you won't feel like that anymore

RikersWeeeiiirrrd · 30/10/2012 07:28

Gosh that all sounds quite complex, and I am so sorry you feel like this. It is so hard to imagine right now, but you will feel differently about your baby. Maybe not the minute they are born, it took a few weeks for the amazing deep bond to develop with both of mine, but it will happen and you won't be able to imagine your baby being any different than the gorgeous little bundle you have got.

It does sound to me that you have some issues re female relationships which are having a big impact on your life, and I think you should seek some help with that via counselling. The very fact that you are aware of some of the things which can damage relationships means that you will want to develop positive and healthy ones, that is good. But you don't want to be fearful of a relationship with your daughter that hasn't really even started yet.
Regarding your DH, it's quite a few years before they start getting into proper sport, neither gender are born kicking balls. By the time you k ow whether your daughter is into sport or not, he will already adore her and it won't matter either way. And you are right there is no reason girls won't be sport-mad. The reason lots of them aren't is because their parents and society don't encourage it in girls. Your daughter will be really lucky that her parents will open that avenue for her.

BettyandDon · 30/10/2012 07:31

I don't feel this is a 'normal' gender disappointment issue and I think you may benefit from family counselling. It seems like having a DD has highlighted female relationship issues and magnified them out of control.

PebblePots · 30/10/2012 07:35

Hi, I thought if my bump as a boy until the scan. I felt a bit disappointed for a day or two, then was happy to be having a girl. My daughter is wonderful, I love her to bits & she adores me.

Yours & your daughters relationship is brand new & there is no reason for relationships of the past to be repeated between you. If you think you will repeat them & can't shake these feelings I suggest you get some counselling before she is born to work through your feelings & so that anxiety doesn't take further root. You don't want to be dealing with this with a new born really.

You will be the centre of your daughter's world & her dad can still do rough & tumble type things with her. My dd has loved being thrown around from an early age.

At least you will know what mistakes your DM made & should be able to avoid them!

emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:37

cupoftea oh, my goodness, I am so so sorry. I don't think there are any words to say how sorry I am. I hope you didn't find my post upsetting, I never intended it to be anything of the sort. Very very best wishes to you and I hope you have support at this awful time.

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TheCountessOlenska · 30/10/2012 07:37

The Sonographer sounds like an idiot - how unprofessional! She should have told you the sex and then shut up!!

I already have a beautiful girl and found out this week that I'm having a boy this time. I will admit to feeling a little bit Confused as I always pictured myself with a family of girls as that's what I grew up with (very close to my mum and sisters) BUT I also know (because it's my second) that when you hold your newborn for the first time gender will be the last thing on your mind! You will both love, adore and worship your new baby!

emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:39

BettyandDon - I have actually had counselling over the years as my mum really did a number on me, was the main reason for a nervous breakdown I had in my 20s - she is a narcissist and has pretty much a personality disorder. I am going to go back to my counsellor now to try to work through some of this but I think it is too soon after the scan y'day for me to feel even remotely confident about getting to grips with this thing :(

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peggyblackett · 30/10/2012 07:40

((())) for cup

BeeBawBabbity · 30/10/2012 07:41

You're scared of having a child you don't bond with. You're scared you wont be a good parent, or that your dh won't be a good parent. This is normal and not something to beat yourself up about.

But you need to separate these fears from gender, which really has nothing to do with it. Your daughter will be what you and your dh encourage and allow her to be, and that doesn't work out well if she's surrounded by negativity projected on to her because of some bad people in your life.

Your Mum is a difficult PERSON. The bullies were horrible PEOPLE. Stop blaming their nastiness on their gender.

You'll adore your daughter, and so will your dh. Best wishes for the rest of your pregnancy.

coldcupoftea · 30/10/2012 07:41

Yes, you ARE very lucky to be having a healthy baby and, in the nicest possible way, you need to get over yourself.

Your DH's hearing impairment argument makes no sense- why does he assume he will have difficulty communicating with his own child? He will be the only dad she knows, she will adapt to whatever you teach her. I grew up with a profoundly deaf mother; communication was never a issue, she was all we knew.

As for saying he wanted a boy, in my experience a lot of men say this- it's some kind of macho bravado thing and I guess they can relate more easily to the idea of having a miniature version of themselves. My DH used to joke about this, mainly as he had 4 pink-obsessed little nieces who scared him! We now have 2 DDs and needless to say he is besotted with them, and plays football with them!

You need to get over this, for your daughter's sake.

emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:41

Feeling reassured by you very nice ladies' certainty that I will feel so happy when I first see her. Can't quite believe it'll happen to me at the mo but it is lovely to hear that it does happen!!

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ilovesprouts · 30/10/2012 07:43

when i was pg we dc3 i would of loved a girl ,i even went out and bought a really pretty dress i had to take it back but i love my son and glad he was a boy he has sn and non verbal .

emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:44

coldcupoftea - thank you, I do honestly need a little bit of a kick up the bum as well!!! That is very very interested to me about your mum and the hearing thing, thank you for the reassurance. I try to reassure DH of that kind of thing a lot but he doesn't seem to believe me... He has a LOT of difficulty hearing small children and finds it easier to bond with them in a different way so I see why he is worried but I wish he would try to see, as i do, that there are all different ways of communicating with children.

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emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:46

coldcupoftea - also, do you think that is true about the macho thing? My DH is a lovely lovely man and very much in tune with his feminine side but he really is sports-mad and had never had female friends or sisters (just a nightmare mum!) so I think I need to try to reassure him a bit. TBF to him, he is the one after the scan y'day being much more sensible and upbeat than me!!

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traipsingalong · 30/10/2012 07:46

If you want to go all philosophical about it, perhaps you were meant to have a daughter, so that you could end the horrible cycle that seems to have been going on in your family.

I don't have particularly happy memories of my childhood, but believe me, I have bent over backwards not to behave towards my dd the way my parents behaved towards me. These cycles of bad parenting can be ended. This is your chance. Daughters are wonderful, and you are the parent, and that means that you hold all the power in your hands. She holds none of it, so it's up to you to give her a happy childhood - she can't do that on her own.

newmum001 · 30/10/2012 07:47

I always saw myself having a boy first. So did dp. At the 20 week scan when we found out we were having a girl dp burst into tears, he was instantly over the moon. I was shocked at first, it hadn't really occured to me that she could be a girl. I am head over heels in love with her (she's now 2) she's feisty and strong willed and not at all a little princess. Your daughter is a brand new person, she will love you and you will love her. Let her prove to you that relationships with females can be wonderful.

emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:48

BeeBawBabbity thanks v much, you know that has never occurred to me before that the people who have made my life difficult in the past are just difficult/horrible people, not cos they're female. Also I guess if I am thinking about it, it's not as if men have played a blinder in my life! DH is wonderful but my dad is a useless coward who can't stand up to my mum and ex-boyfriends were pretty rotten people too! :)

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emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:51

traipsing that is a lovely idea, thank you for that :) I think you have hit the nail on the head - I fear that my daughter will have all the power as women have often exercised enormous (and scary and not very nice) power over me. I need to find some way to feel in control of this relationship from the start, but not controlling like my own mum... tough for someone like me!! :)

newmum - I really love the idea of a feisty, strong little girl who I can teach to set out and take on the world! I think the 'little princess' stuff upset me more than I realised, even though I think she was trying to be nice. Also she kept saying, "Oh, look, she is posing for the camera!" which again I think was being nice but just isn't my ideal!

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TheApprentice · 30/10/2012 07:52

My Mum always said she wanted 4 boys before she was 30 (!!) and I think that, like you, part of this was to do with her mother being a difficult lady and my Mum not feeling like she could do the mother/daughter thing very well. Anyhow, along came me, the first, and I was a girl. (She did have 3 boys after me, though, all before she was 30, so nearly got her wish). I think she must have been rather disappointed about my gender but of course in those days you didnt know what you were getting until the baby was born, so she would have just got on with it.

But Mum and I have always been close and had a good relationship. I think she has really enjoyed doing the "girly" stuff with me like shopping, theatre trips etc, and also I think she is able to talk about stuff with me in a very different way to how she talks to my brothers, and I think (hope!) she is grateful for that. Most importantly of all, she is NOTHING like her mother and I think this is because she was very aware of the issues surrounding her mother and tried hard to deal with me differently. As you are very aware too, it seems to me that you will have a totally different experience with your daughter. All the best to you and your daughter.

katesav87 · 30/10/2012 07:58

Hi emerald, I hope u don't mind me commenting. I think it's natural to feel the way u do if uve always thought ud have a boy but u will start coming round to having a little girl. The fact is u r not ur mother and because u have had a mother the way u have described u will certainly be totally different with ur daughter because u will not want her being treated the way ur mum did to u! That is a great start. Also bullying happens with boys as well and there's us proberley more intense as they r more physical. Bullying is just the way of life and as horrible as it is it ltd everywhere. U can have a great impact on ur daughter growing up! Get to baby groups and meet other mums and baby's that ur daughter can grow up with she will then have great friends for life that she has known since she was born. With ur DH as soon as ur baby is born he will find his own special way of communicating with her. It will be all she ever knows and just a hug with her DH will teach her she's loved and her dad is always there got her. That's all she needs on life! I hope my post makes sense and that soon u will start to feel better. I really do think that although ur experiences growing up were horrible it will make u the complete opposite with ur girl because u will not want her feeling the way u did and that is the best way a mother can be so u will be great x

emeraldgirl1 · 30/10/2012 07:58

Thank you so much Apprentice and to everyone who has posted.

I honestly do feel a little better already, it has been so good to get some of this off my chest - I can't with friend and family IRL as I think we all know it sounds so awful to start saying you are disappointed about a healthy baby - probably because it IS so awful to be disappointed! Easier to tell people who don't know me - so thank you all, your responses have been hugely helpful and I will re-read them throughout the day today.

FWIW I know I'm being an idiot, I just need to get my head around this new information and work on getting ready for a non-princess (!) daughter. I am going to call my counsellor today for an appointment.

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