Fantastic 40+ Mum to be - part 2

[Hpbp]

Let's keep on chatting !
Awaiting to hear from you all.
Midget, how are you feeling after the sweep ?
Exexe, are you happy with the new kitchen ? Very glad to see you back on here.
Warm welcome to the only Dad we have on the thread, sorry I could not remember your name as I write this.
Have a lovely Monday. Pouring rain in Paris today.

Eagle that sounds terrifying. You take care and don't push yourself too much. Posting from bath lovely image eh? Me all post baby jelly belly so best go before I drop phone in bath.

Eagle hope you're OK my love. And you're not stupid!

Had a really rough day yesterday, just felt wiped out and generally achy and yuck, so I think it might have been the after effects of the flu jab the day before, as I feel a bit more normal today! Have managed to order all DS's stuff for his stocking and a couple of bigger things, just what this house needs, more Lego! DP is out doing maintenance today (he's a private landlord) so I've had a bit of peace & quiet. Just got to make a chilli for tea, then round to my friend's house after school for her DS's birthday (my DS's best buddy), and DS is sleeping over there tonight. Had a leeeetle nap, some tomato soup & toast and marmite and feel much better . Hope everyone else is OK xx

eagle thanks for that link - it makes very interesting reading. I'm Surrey based and induction hasn't been mentioned to me -even as a recommendation yet. I was very lucky with DD as had a sweep on due date last time and promptly gave birth 24 hours later. Am hoping for much the same this time round. PS Grumble away! I sometimes think that DP/DH's just don't have a clue about how tough things can be. My DH works shifts and so I can be left to get on with things for whole weeks/weekends at a time. I don't expect thanks per se, but it would be nice to have a bit of acknowledgement sometimes about how hard things can be juggling life - and ensuring the house and life continues when he's not there.
knotty glad you're feeling better after your rough day. I've got my flu jab booked for a few weeks time and am crossing fingers I don't feel too rough afterwards. Mmmmm...toast and marmite - always a good pick-me-up choice though!

Thank goodness the weekend looms. Would love to say that I'm looking forward to a lie in but think my 3 year old DD will have a different idea. If the weather's good it'll be the park and a train ride somewhere. If the weather's bad it'll be making fairy cakes and maybe indoor soft play. How my life has changed.....!

exexe well done!
VQthinking of you!

hey knotty glad your'e feeling better. it's so bloody draining. agree with knicky the men don't understand. my DP regularly employs the phrase 'swanning around having cups of tea at your sister's' to describe an afternoon spent constantly jumping up and running after three children, carrying bikes to the park, breaking up arguments, getting drink/toast/drink/apple, cleaning up spilt/broken/messy stuff, dealing with poo/pee/sick, dealing with the emotions of three under 5s, etc etc.

eagleray lols re getting stuck in the loo door you're the queen of bump anecdotes!

sorry about the car incident - if you are anaemic that could cause it i bet. Really nerve-wracking. can you avoid driving until you get your anaemia sorted? you definitely need to listen to this. Many pregnant women ask too much of themselves - eg i think for some of us working until 8 months is too much. I used to pass out on the toilet at work in my 7th and 8th month. i even lay on the concrete floor in the toilet and went to sleep [hblush]. I'm not saying everyone is like that, but for those of us that are, there should be more understanding.

to cut the waffle i'm just saying i hope you can take some time off work till you feel better.

will look at that thread.

i haven't been taking my pregnacare tabs cause feeling that that they are making me sick but will try again.

mrswooster barnacle bill and his death grip!!! please can you come on here more often with more of that, so funny!

essentially re my birth choices i'm saying that it i come from a genetic cluster of barnacle bill babies so ELCS is inevitable.

scarecrow this morning i almost forgot i was pregnant i felt so well. until i felt like clay melting into the floor after lunch.

my ds had a whole day without telly yesterday and we made bread and did an art class. he has been so much better behaved today and i'm sure it's linked. but i've been so exhausted we are now slumped in front of my computer sharing the screen - he's watching tree fu tom while i chat to you guys.

hpbp i'll go anywhere in the world for some cake including paris - just say the word!

midget well done for a) having a bath and b) posting from it! hope baby midget is well and getting even more of a grip on night and day

xx

just scanned the thread - yep that is my gut instinct don't take any chances have that ELCS as soon as they will give it.

i am not one of those people who has deep feelings about VB. I did read something on the internet that getting the head squished during VB sets of some brain-boosting, memory-boosting process in the newborn brain, and that is the only thing that has ever made me wistful about VB. if true, it does seem to me to pose a genuine dilemma. but it is just 'something on the internet' and the consultant looked at me like i was mad when i brought it up.

otherwise VB seems to pale into insignificance besides the safety angle. CS is simply safer.

having just watched this comedian Louis CK's 'everything is amazing and nobody's happy' sketch about how people complain when their mobile phones are slow when only 50 years we had no mobiles and no answerphones, and we complain about legroom in aeroplanes seemingly forgetting that we are flying, we are sitting in a chair in the sky, i am feeling a bit like, so you didn't get a VB - a hundred years you and your baby would be, you know not with us.

bit of a rant i guess.

maybe i'm missing something. always possible.

xxx

yes i think if you're in a grey area getting pressured to have a cs when you don't need one that's where all these debates come in.

that's prob what i'm missing.

i've always thought i'm not in a grey area. they tried everything and i still didn't progress and DS got distressed.

however i clearly DO care about VB or i wouldn't be writing three mad posts like this about the dilemma.

Good afternoon from Home Office HQ! It's lovely being at home for once, (although am dressed like a tramp and ate Haribo for lunch - clearly attending an office daily is the only thing keeping me civilised...)

Midget - glad to see I am not the only one who takes her technology with her into the bathtub. I have a lovely wooden bath rack and have been known to balance computer, dinner and wine on it... How did the cake making go?

I popped into town earlier and got some Spatone - it may not be strong enough, I don't know, but figured it was a good idea to start taking something now rather than waiting for tests, and results, and doctor's letters and so on.

Knotty - glad you are feeling a bit better now after the flu jab - I have mine next week so good to get a heads-up that it can make you feel a bit lot under the weather.

Somewhere - it is going to be impossible to avoid driving I think, but feel so much more aware of needing to pace myself and concentrate, which is a good thing I suppose. I've got Tuesday off work as got wall-to-wall appointments, and as a last resort could take the train (doubles travel time though as there's a few miles at beginning and end of journey where I would have to take a bus).

I got some books in the post today today, including 'The Food of Love' - would really recommend even peeping at the preview of it on Amazon as it's really good! It's all about breast feeding, but seems to cover pretty much everything you would need to know regarding caring for a baby.

Busy weekend ahead - doing a photoshoot for 3 toddlers and their parents on Sunday (it's a bit of a sideline, although more of a hobby than a job) so most of the day is going to be bedlam I think. Then in the evening, I'm hoping to get along to a local homebirth group, on a factfinding mission! Will drag DP along and just hope he doesn't say anything inappropriate...

Hope you all have a nice restful or at least not too stressful weekend - and keep warm as those nights are getting cold now!

Somewhere you had me chuckling about your 3 posts about ELCS. Sounds rather familiar as I spent the last 9 months having the same debate with myself. And no you are not missing something!

All of us Just want that baby in our arms don't we? how it gets there really doesn't matter a jot. I was really cross that I got talked out of my ELCS but now I am starting to feel better my bitterness is passing....

I have not baked. May go and do it now as master midge is sleeping next to me why does he not do that at night?

Hi everyone can I join you all? My friend somewhere invited me over from the april 2013 thread.
DC2 due on 2/4/12 when I'll be ahem 42!
I had DS when I was just 40 and noone mentioned induction at 40w to me being compulsory, I did have a sweep at 40+3 I think but didn't have him until 40+6 NVB (ish). I'm wondering if that's why so many of you seem to have ended up with EMCS if you were induced at 40w which now means you feel you should or are being persuaded to have ELCS? Sorry if barking up wrong tree!

Anyway I've not had a chance to read all of your comments on this so if someone could fill me in a bit on why safer for us older ladies I'd be very grateful.

PS. a CS of any sort would not be ideal for me as have a mild bleeding condition!

Wonderful to dip into your chat on loving second children, I do feel a bit bad for DS already knowing what I know (about his brother or sister being on the way) but I have a feeling he will make sure he is still topdog and in noway forgotten, he's just got that sort of personality!

Oh and somewhere From what I've read getting squashed through the birth canal helps get rid of the fluid from the lungs too which is supposed to be good (think they do this manually for babies born by CS). Having said that DS's breathing still sounded very grunty to me after VB and he still ended up on antibiotics in ICU and SCBU for a night as a precaution (ever wonder why you mentioned anything to the doctor?). So not sure how well the VB cleared his lungs and believe me at 9lb 1oz he was well squashed .

I know you're probably all sick of me by now (and going who is she anyway?) but just one more thing. Are you all having consultant led care, I am because of the bleeding thing, or so I thought but the MW when she saw I was consultant led said oh probably because of your age. Cheeky mare I thought!

Right that's it you won't hear another peep from me until Monday probably. Have great weekends all and congrats to the new mummies!

Welcome trying. it's much easier to keep up with the chat over here! Everyone is so different and most are so much younger on the April thread. Everyone over here is knackered. Total respect for the 20 something mums it's the best age I'm sure but the sheer energy with which they are discussing buggy brands I can't keep up! While in terms of first timers I think the older you are the stranger it is iykwim.
Xxx

Welcome Trying2bpos. I read somewhere that in the 60's (!) a survey showed that mums over 40 have more risks of having a placenta failure after 40 weeks, it seems that this is the reason why induction is now offered to Mums over 40 ! as soon as they reach 39 weeks. But my obstetrician wasn't convinced because technology has improved a lot since and now monitoring exists. In my opinion, induction leads to CS because the body is forced to go into labour when it is not ready, contractions are not natural so the womb is not always very cooperative. This is one of the reason I wasn't really willing to have induction, I was too scared that CS would prevent me from taking care of the 2 DCs, pain after surgery and also more difficult to get on with BF. Eventually I had a sweep at 39+2 and had the baby less than 24 hours later and VB.
Voila, Somewhere, the reason why I did not want to go for ELCS. Because luckyly I had no medical condition that would have required CS. Of course, I was and still am petrified by childbirth even if I had 2 healthy babies, in my late 30 and early 40, but CS was a no no.
Wish you all a lovely week end

hpbp the best research I've seen so far on stillbirth risk by maternal age and gestational age was the one linked to in the thread eagleray posted. The research published in 2005 based on over 5,000,000 singleton births, found that the risk of stillbirth for women > 40 years old at 39 weeks gestation was equivalent to the risk of a

Riverside, hope you have a wonderful wedding ! Be good ! And enjoy

Have a great day Riverside will try and catch up from my laptop later.

Should be going to sleep but had t interrupt important chat about birth plans and placentas to say: rob an investment bank, book a babysitter, and go see Skyfall. Brilliant. Sometimes funny, sometimes clever, somewhat sexy. Easily the best for many many years.
DD ran about for 2.5 hours today. True happiness spending a day in gardens with her and friends.
Night all.

Welcome Trying! Riverside have a fantastic wedding day. Scarecrow, would love to see Skyfall, just not sure I could sit in the cinema for that long now (is it a long one?? I did managed Paranorman a couple of weeks ago with DS but that was only just over an hour I think).

my DP just went to see it last night without me. we don't have much luck with the old babysitting and in truth i'm just so knackered.

isn't it lovely when they run about and knacker themselves out! i went to the local park with my DS and to be honest it was muddy, gloomy, empty and even my DS wasn't very impressed. but ikwym.

looked at the study - couldn't really understand it but the graph v interesting. SB risk higher up until 24 weeks, then for a stretch until 32 weeks basically the same as younger women, then it slowly rises then at 39 weeks begins to rocket up.

it seems very clearcut the case for not letting

Jacob Ian John arrived safely on Thursday. 9lb 1/2oz. Utterly beautiful. Feeding like a pro, so mummy is knackered! Tubes tied off, so looking forward to lots of shagging with no worries, but not for a few weeks yet. Not caught up, but I will. I coped a lot better than the young things in with me, so feeling pretty good about things really.

VQ wonderful wonderful news. And what a pro!! So happy baby Jacob arrived safely. Once again feeling pretty broody just thinking about him suckling happily. Partic as Jacob one of two names we'd picked last time if DD was a boy...so to speak. Got a lemon drizzle cake in the oven and had another MS-free day, and another 40+ baby safely in his/her mummy's arms. What a good day :))
Take it easy.
PS also big hello & welcome to trying -I'm now 4th newest and beginning to feel like an old hand (newest, v much not youngest!)

Welcome jacob and congratulations VQ - I knew you would be ok but this midget likes to worry till I hear for sure. Big squish but not near your section.....

VQ, you are a star, the only who recovered so quickly and the first to post so quickly too ! Welcome to Jacob ! Congratulations. Feel very thrilled for you. XXX