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Fantastic 40+ Mum to be - part 2

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Hpbp · 08/10/2012 07:42

Let's keep on chatting !
Awaiting to hear from you all.
Midget, how are you feeling after the sweep ?
Exexe, are you happy with the new kitchen ? Very glad to see you back on here.
Warm welcome to the only Dad we have on the thread, sorry I could not remember your name as I write this.
Have a lovely Monday. Pouring rain in Paris today.

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Midgetm · 24/10/2012 09:55

VQ you just made me cry. But in a good way Grin

Hpbp · 24/10/2012 10:17

So sorry, I made the mistake and brought everyone with me, VQ, days are all blurred in my head.... enjoy your Wed and keep us posted when you can. The girls will miss you and vice versa but you will bring home so much joy, a little brother for them to play with ! Very exciting time. xXXX
Made my first 2 cakes this morning, marbre aux 3 chocolats, it is called in France, cake with white, milk and dark chocolates. They smell good, hope they taste good too. Verdict tonight when DS1 comes home.
Waves to every one.

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Midgetm · 24/10/2012 11:17

I am going to attempt to bake tomorrow Hmm for DD's parents coffee morning. 9 days post delivery this may be a stupid thing to think about doing....

somewherebecomingrain · 24/10/2012 11:30

hppb ooh marbre au troix chocolats - i see banana and date cake was a rather naive suggestion! you are obv a bit of a master bakeress.

VQ good luck good luck! thinking of you!

scarecrow a headache today but took paracetomol asap and it went away. Consultant said take paracetomol as quick as poss after headache comes on for it to work, and top up with 1 aspirin if still suffering.

i am also feeling strange about two but in a different way - guilty towards DC1. Someone once said they felt like they were 'cheating' on their first child with their second. I feel I am not quite as close to DC1 as before - something has changed. But I want him to know this is HIS sibling just as much as it is MY child. They will actually know each other for longer than i will know them.

I think this is normal.

eagerlay good luck with your protein results. what is a 4-d-scan?

xxx

knickyknocks · 24/10/2012 12:34

VQ you have the most amazing ability to say such wonderful words. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. I hope that everything goes smoothly and quickly - and that your precious bundle arrives safe and sound. Update us when you can.
somewhere I used to be a shocker with headaches but definitely saw an improvement when I made a concerted effort to drink much more water. I'm crossing my fingers for you that the nip it in the bud paracetamol will continue to do the trick. Nothing more debilitating than a blinding head. Yuck. Just to say think ELCS for you sounds like it could be the right way forward and I'm with you on the why wait thought - though (and I may be slow to catch up on this...) do they not allow ladies over the age of 40 to go overdue under any circumstances?

midgetm ouch ouch ouch! Piles and tight stitches! Poor you. Hope things start to calm down very soon. Fab thought about first trip out with DS. Daniel Craig would be a very pleasant distraction after your body has been through a bit of pummeling with the birth. Maybe some pick and mix too??
scarecrow I'm feeling in a similar way for DD. She's my world and I really hope that her new sibling will bring happiness to her life. I have a difficult relationship with my own brother, so am hoping beyond hope that we've made the right decision to go for number two (that said, my hubby had a wonderful relationship with his sister, but she tragically died 12 years ago, leaving 4 young kids - he still misses her now as they were so close).

I'm fine, ridiculously busy at work. Barely had the time to think baby thoughts. Had two firm kicks yesterday and rather painful too. Coming up to 20 weeks - half way!! Yippee! Scan next Wednesday will tell us whether it's a blue or pink one - still slightly anxious that things will still be looking ok, but I'm sure they are.

Hello to everyone else! xx

zimbomaman · 24/10/2012 16:00

Just popping my head in to see how everyone is......so happy to see that so many of you are holding happy healthy babies. Still ttc since the mc over Easter and feeling a little weepy as the 'should have been due date is getting closer'. Big 'bonjour' to those who remember and were so supportive back then.

somewherebecomingrain · 24/10/2012 16:27

zimbomaman i never met you but hope you have some peace and get a BFP soon.

have you looked at this thread? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1585805-Fantastic-40-Thread-Part-Eight

the support is incredible.

knicky and VQ yes they don't let ladies over 40 years go beyond 40 weeks. even at 40 weeks i can't have an induction cause i had a c-section last time. all my close female relatives have ended up being induced for every birth. i see very little point in waiting until 40 weeks for an inevitable caesarian - may as well be 39 weeks.

god knicky that is so sad about your partner and his sister. my DP doesn't get on with his sis at all, nor does his mum get on with her bro. but on my side my parents are/were really close to all their siblings (some have passed away) and my sister is my best friend pretty much. Goodness knows which way it'll go for our little ones.

I have made up with my friend, who i shan't call annoying any more, i shall call lovely.

Daniel Craig looked disappointingly shiny in the skyfall premier pics. hasn't his make-up artist heard of Porefessional?

sorry to witter on when i know VQ is at the moment of truth.

xxx

Midgetm · 24/10/2012 16:34

Zimbo so sorry things are tough right now. Would be due dates can be a hard demon to face. Hang in there though, if I can have a successful outcome Anyone can x

Hpbp · 24/10/2012 18:56

Zimbo, bonjour, we have Not forgotten you ! And I am glad to hear from you. Come back anytime. have you moved house in the end ?

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zimbomaman · 24/10/2012 19:36

Yes, hpbp, we did move house in the end and have been living in builder's dust and rubble for the past two months. The work is never ending which is probably why I'm not feeling 100% either. Will take the time to read up on all your babies - really am glad that you've had those longed for bundles of joy! Will have a look on the other thread. Take care.

scarecrow22 · 24/10/2012 19:52

somewhere I hope you said paracetamol-sharametamol to your doctor [hwink] After two good ish days had something close to (or was?) migraine today - had to come home on return train from work, as paracetamol not working took ibuprofen (I know but could almost not open eyes) , slept for three hours, woke up with a headache still, and vision started shaking. Avoided more drugs but still sore head. And DH has asked me what I'm cooking us for supper (he is great, but occasionally they don't quite get it).
I vowed not to come and whine again about symptoms but was even a bit worried by vision thing (it passed).

More importantly I'm smiling that another thing we have in common is that I had failed induction at 40 weeks last time (was already o40) and so presumed I'd have ELCS this time. I also had problem sat time as lost 2l blood (when I thought I had 10 lit felt fine, when DH said only 5 lit felt wobbly!). They have booked me in for VBAC clinic but intend to tell them that as I also don't think will go into labour, and more importantly don't want an EMCS in case we have bleed problem again and might be harder to deal with in an emergency, want an ELCS. Also one less week to work wait.

Will be interested to hear what your consultant says as, again, you'll be just ahead...

to others, with apologies for Olympic whine. Going to make my fave Thai curry and watch Box set /early night, as am usually still at work now, or on way home at best.

scarecrow22 · 24/10/2012 19:59

I should have said a very heart-felt thank you to everyone for kind words about DC2 bonding guilt. I was worried I sounded horrid, but I actually adore children. In fact before I had DD I worried could not love any child as much as my sisters' 5 children. Which was twaddle, of course! Anyway, good to share such feelings. I still would like to bond more, but tell myself it will grow, and also might start yoga classes as last time found rare peaceful time just w "bump" was a good opportunity to be with LO, iykwim. Also in new year will start reading sibling books with DD and imagine her excitement will be infectious as she is potty about mothering her teddies, dolls, bunny rabbit...even the horrible plastic jack in the box!

Hpbp · 24/10/2012 21:06

Somewhere, forgot to say that I am NO master bakeress, marbre aux 3 chocolats is very easy, one day, if we meet up, I will bake one for all of us. I am tempted to try a banana cake or date cake, these were your ideas, I never thought about that, so will try !

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Exexe · 24/10/2012 21:17

Hi everyone.
I'm just on very quickly. I had my lovely dd by elective c section last Wednesday. The birth was fine. I had a fab team.
I'm suffering a bit at the moment though with every pain - headaches, back pains, c section pains. Baby is a jaundiced and not feeding that well. She lost 14% of birth weight and we ended up back in the hospital. Hoping to get the feeding working out as I really want to establish bf.

VQ good luck for tomorrow!

Congratulations to Midget and Hpbp - is that right? I'm sorry, I need to read back and catch up properly soon.

knottyhair · 24/10/2012 21:51

Exexe congratulations! Glad the birth went well but sorry you're suffering now, hope the jaundice goes soon and the feeding improves.
VQ, will be thinking of you tomorrow. Let us know any news when you can xx

scarecrow22 · 24/10/2012 23:19

hbpb am definitely hands-down winner of baking wooden spoon, but hugely recommend Mary Berry lemon drizzle as possibly most fool-proof and delicious cake ever. You can Google it. Mmmmm. Enjoy them all.

eagleray · 24/10/2012 23:49

Somewhere - 3D and 4D scanning (apparently) uses sound waves at various angles which are then processed by a computer program to produce a reconstructed image of the baby, as it would appear in real life. The 4D bit does it in real time, so you can see the multi-dimensional image as the baby is scanned. Am a bit excited about it, but almost feel a bit guilty that I am peering at her in such close detail before she is born!

My hospital has the 'induction at 40 weeks if over 40' policy too - it does vary from one hospital to the next and in my area I think it is advisory rather than compulsory. I had a chat with the MW about this yesterday and I think a lot of it depends on the monitoring of the individual. There is also a fair bit of research going on in my health authority area at the mo regarding the health of older pregnant women.

VQ - sending you lots of luck, love and best wishes for tomorrow - it only seems like yesterday that you had your poor broken foot and have just checked back through the old thread and see that you were 'only' 25 weeks then - where on earth did the time go to?

Midget - wow re the baking, and hope the old roof tiles and stitches heal soon

Zimbomaman - lovely to hear from you - I lurked a bit on the 40+ thread before BFP and do remember you. My original due date was early August (had MC last year) and despite being pregnant again, I still somehow found it a bit hard, so really sympathise re your approaching due date next month. I had lost all hope of getting pregnant again, but we managed it exactly 6 months later - will keep my fingers crossed for you.

Exexe - fabulous news - congratulations!! Sorry to hear baby hasn't been feeding well, and that you have so much pain to contend with - hope you are on the mend soon

HPBP - that's a lovely thought re making cake for everyone. I make a banana cake every now and then and take it to work - they are always popular and I do find a home-made cake is a great way of getting co-operation from even the most difficult colleagues...

I seem to have developed the habits of a tomcat of late - got a real urge to get out and about in the evenings! Tonight I went out for dinner, then on to a gig at a local pub. I have no idea why I am suddenly so sociable, but it was a real shock being amongst crowds of people again. I had a bit of a job trying to navigate through the pub to get to the loo, then got kind of wedged between the loo door and the toilet roll holder and a kind lady had to pull me out. The baby hasn't been exposed to that much music so far as I tend to have radio 4 on in the car when commuting and fear she prefers that to the nice music at the gig tonight.

No news yet re my wee sample - still not entirely sure if there's anything nasty lurking there - just have to keep remembering to drink loads of water, which I am shamefully bad at doing.

Love and best wishes to all - night night

knickyknocks · 25/10/2012 09:42

Exexe wonderful news Thanks Thanks. So sorry to hear you and your gorgeous girl have gone through the ringer a bit since the birth. It will get better, just feels so bloody awful at the time. Will keep my fingers crossed that bf gets established. Hugs to you and the little one.
eagleray loving the fact you're a bit of a tomcat recently! Though did smile at the stuck in the loo story - that's the sort of thing which would happen to me too. Hope the baby enjoyed the gig last night! I'm off to see Madness in a few weeks - thankfully got seated tickets, but am still hoping to be dancing about to baggy trousers at the end of the eve if baby doesn't mind too much! 4D scanning sounds amazing! Full report afterwards please!
scarecrow you poor thing. That migraine sounds horrendous and errr....yes....suspect my partner too just doesn't get it sometimes. He too has made the faux pas of suggesting shopping or something when I had my recent morning sickness - he soon changed his mind when I said that I'd have to take a plastic bag with me in case of urgent vomits..... Yes, I too am planning on getting sibling books etc etc to prepare DD for the arrival of the new one. Hoping she's going to love it - she seems absolutely besotted with babies at the mo.
somewhere as per usual you make me chuckle. Loving the suggestion of porefessional for Mr Craig. No excuse for a shiny face in my opinion. Lots of mattifying bits on the market these days.....Grin Glad to hear you've made up with your friend. Tend to think the number of good friends you have by the time you hit your 30's and 40's you could count on one hand, which I always feel a bit sad about. Anyway, glad things are sorted.
VQ thinking of you my love.....

Best get back to work. Still wading through a mountain of work, and didn't win that damned lottery AGAIN last night. Much love xxx

Hpbp · 25/10/2012 10:37

Exexe, very happy to hear your good news. Wishing you now a swift recovery for you and baby. Keep us informed take good care.
Eagleray, I smiled at the loo episode too, like knicky. Do you want some more water ? I kind of force myself to drink lots during pg, at work, I had a bottle on my desk and 5 other under the desk, my aim was to drink all 6 of them in a day, it did help with avoiding UTI but not the trips to the loo, I had the feeling I was constantly going to wee.... Now with BF, I am glad I had the habit of drinking, I feel so thirsty, my Mum is amazed by the quantity of water I have in a day, almost 3litres !!! At least, I don't eat too much.
VQ thinking of you.
Scarecrow, have you seen a GP or MW re migraine ? Have some water too. Deshydratation can give headaches too...
Anastasia has runny nose... Of course, with DS1 kissing her all the time ! Hope it will clear itself quickly.
Hugs from sunny Paris

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eagleray · 25/10/2012 19:59

Hpbp - I am terrible at drinking water - am actually ashamed of how little I drink most days... That is really sweet that Anastasia is getting so much affection heaped on her although hope her runny nose stops soon

Had a horrible start to the day - was feeling a bit absent on my drive in to work yesterday morning and felt a bit alarmed that I couldn't remember much of it, but then didn't really think about it again. Then this morning I was on the motorway first thing and the traffic up ahead slowed suddenly and I'm ashamed to say my responses failed me and I ended up losing control of the car and doing a massive skid, ending up across two lanes shaking and crying at the wheel (with everyone else honking and driving around me). It was the most awful experience and cannot believe how close I came to utter disaster.

Rang the docs to see if they could get the urine test results back asap as was worried my absentness is a sign that something is wrong (it has just been these last couple of days) and thankfully the GP rang back and said all is clear, but he's concerned I may be anaemic, so that has been added to my other tests I'm having next week.

I'm working from home tomorrow and just feel so relieved I won't need to leave the house - feeling shattered now and face is a right mess from snivelling at my desk all day (don't you just love open plan offices)

Knicky - Madness gig sounds great - nice to have seated tickets with the option of dancing if you wish! I am going to look up some more nice things to do re gigs, films etc so I have more things to look forward to.

Hoping there is a VQ resting comfortably somewhere with a mini-VQ in arms....

MrsWooster · 25/10/2012 21:09

evening all. ON the sibling books front, we have been recommended 'There's a house inside my mummy' and it has been really good with DS - he's 2.4. We've also got an Usborne one about New Baby and he's really keen on reading both. He's taken to carting his rabbit round wrapped in a blanket and calling it the baby (altho he also refers to himself as a baby (which he is, of course) among his many other alter egos of Postman Pat, Ted Glenn, Bob...et al) I think it has helped him be keen on the idea of the baby and being a big bro which has, in turn, helped me bond a bit and feel marginally less guilt stricken about cheating him...
re the 40 weeks thing, I think it must definitely be a local policy decision, as her in Leeds they didn't induce me until 42weeks and then it took another 2 days until Barnacle Bill finally released his deathgrip on the inside wall of the womb.
Good luck to VQ...

Hpbp · 25/10/2012 22:01

Eagleray, poor you, you must have been petrified, get some rest, make sure you get iron tablets if it is what your body need.... I took pregnacare throughout the whole pg and still do because of BF. I have beta Thalassemia but my iron level has always been good, is it because I have a good diet (MW said so, not me) or did the pregnacare tablets help ? I can't answer.
MrsWooster, I bought "there is a house in my mummy" and we all enjoyed it, me, DH and DS. It is short, easy to read and understand with cute drawings, we started reading it to DS when DS was 3 yo 4 months, I was then entering the second trimester.

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scarecrow22 · 25/10/2012 22:05

Re 40 weeks, with DD I was already 40 and I was told they recommend but do not force you, though they insist in (from memory) daily monitoring after 40w. To my shame I was desperate to get DD out before Christmas (due 19/12) so I opted for induction ASAP. I figured better to have a birthday in days before Christmas than after. Well, it was a reason! And I think she'll thank me for it ;) I got the impression 'recommended but not compulsory' was national standard - at least that they cannot force you anywhere (perhaps unless imminent danger to baby).

scarecrow22 · 25/10/2012 22:08

Eagleray your experience sounds truly awful. In fact more I think of it, more foolhardy brave you were to go into work ;). Glad you working from home. Can you do that until you are sorted. Or is there a colleague you can drive with, at least in convoy for security. Remember no job is worth that kind of experience. Please take care of yourself.

eagleray · 25/10/2012 23:06

I'm going to get some iron supplements tomorrow - have been a bit slack with the general pregnancy vits these last few weeks. Interestingly, HPBP, it is written on my notes that I am a possible thalassaemia carrier but no one else has mentioned it since it was written!

DP has been abroad this week and lives away during the week anyway so spoken to him on the phone tonight and confessed to the motorway mishap - he was very alarmed but managed to use the word 'stupid' to describe me then said he wanted to spend half of this weekend (a day and a night) visiting his dad! I really don't think he realises a lot of the time how hard it is to hold things together - house, job, commute, etc and he just turns up at the weekend and moans (sorry am grumbling now).

It isn't normally practicable for me to work from home so tomorrow is a bit of a one-off, but is a massive weight off my mind. I put terrible pressure on myself to turn up every day as don't get paid otherwise, and will have no job at all after Christmas. I may be able to work from home a bit more frequently in the coming weeks though if I can get officially set up with the right equipment. On the plus side, I do have very supportive colleagues (even if most of them are men and are a bit limited in terms of the technical bits of pregnancy)

Regarding induction, I have just had a dig around on the web and found the NICE guidelines to induction, which do not mention maternal age at all. Also found this thread from a year ago, which makes for interesting reading - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/childbirth/a1353115-Quick-unscientific-poll-early-induction-due-to-maternal-age

MrsW - 'Barnacle Bill' and his deathgrip made me laugh!