Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

dont aplologise reebok

HG can be really really crap and you are entitled to moan. Im sure you arnt the only person to feel like that

it was only last night when OH said to me "remember at this point last pregnancy, you wouldnt come near me, and i couldnt even sleep in our bed".... he had a point, him breathing / turning over made me sick, and i couldnt stand the smell of his any shower gel etc.

Ive not had the best day today, been quite sick and again and not felt great, but still not as bad as the worst, and for that im greatful.

shocked that you have had no food / drink room for a little one though pleased you are getting IV
(saying that the first time i went in i wasnt given anything for hours, i learnt after that and made sure they gave me food / drink within minutes of getting a bed, pointing out i havent actually eaten anything for X days... when i asked i got it)

good luck xxx

Thanks nannyl. I can't stand the thought of another 31 weeks of this. I really cannot stand being pregnant and feel like some alien force has taken over my body. Can't wait to have it back...and I'm certain this will be my only pregnancy. If I ever want another child, I'll adopt!

Hi ladies, wasn't sure where to post but as I've already spoken to some of you on here I thought I would ask your advice.... Everything has stopped, all the sickness and headaches and stuff have gone away and I've had a bit of energy back over the last couple of days, managed to clean up anyway. I don't feel anywhere near as shitty as I did a couple of days ago...should I be worried?
I'm going shopping soon so I'm gonna buy a hpt. Absolutely terrified its gonna be negative tho....

Try not to worry Tinky...I know it can be hard. I had a good day the other day....felt almost normal but it came back in full force. You can have a few odd good days believe it or not. Just try to enjoy it. X

Tinky I so agree with Reebok ;any number of women on here have worried because the sickness goes off for a while, and then realised there was nothing to worry about when it came back!
Reebok don't worry about ranting, that is what this thread is for. I was angry with OH for smelling to me so strongly of roast pork (sorry for mentioning food) that I had to lie in bed with my back turned, holding a lavender sachet to my nose. I think one would have to be a saint not to be irritable when going through this, and OH's can't really understand how bad you are feeling.
Room Are you still in hospital? Any better?
Nannyl Great post and I am so glad it is a bit better for you.
Moomins Peppa Everyone How are things?
Still delighted about Mrs D and those first twins on the thread...
Lucinda
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Thanks lucinda. Feeling terrible because he came home and made my favourite soup to cheer me up...which I then went on to puke up!

Hope everyone else is having a better day and starting to feel a little better. :(

Quick post so that I go and rest. I'm out of hospital after 6 litres of IVfluid and IV ondansetron. Finally managed to clear "off the scale" ketones from my urine. I've been sent home with ondansetron tablets. I'm feeling so much better and can even eat a bit! Thanks for all the well-wishes. I'll pop back on when I am a bit more on form and have had some uninterrupted sleep...

great to here roomforalittleone

hope you continue to improve.

sorry to here that reebok (soup is one of the many many many things i cant eat too lol)

Room I'm so glad you are home and had effective treatment - that they had to give you a bed. Aagh, ketones off the scale!
ReeboK About the heartburn, I think several people have been on anti acid stuff and I don't like to say which, as it's gone right out of my head. I did find that that residual heartburn once the sickness lessened was so miserable, and set the sickness off again. Gaviscon even if it stays down doesn't seem to be efffective for very long and milk can be sickening and seems to produce more acid in the long run for some chemical reason I've forgotten if I ever knew... I hope someone else on here might be able to advise? Did the chemists get your kesosticks?When I could eat again, it had to be anti heartburn diet. How sweet of OH to make your favourite soup, he is trying hard. Don't feel guilty - think how they'd be if it was them!
Nannlyl Waves. I hope still improving?
Everyone I hope, coping today. I am a bit worried about Ghoule I hope she is OK, comparatively.
Lucinda
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Anyone experience irritabilility on any of their meds? Or maybe just pregnancy hormones I've been so irritated and grumpy last couple weeks - still can't really get of zofran 8mg starting I try to take 3,
4mg closer together but have been feeling very ill & it's def not the cyclizine ive always taken it 9months twice before without any probs! Had hoped to be feeling better than this @ 23wks! Not too excited about getting the Belfast-Liverpool boat in january followed by a 3hr car journey down near london!! Goina feel so ill!

reebok .. i know exactly how you feel when i was pregnant could not bear the sight of dp one night he ate a chese and pickle sandwhich and the smell was sooo strong i couldnt bear it i felt as though i was suffocating .... and all he said was but i hant eaten onions or garlic i had a cheese and pickle sandwhich .. his stupidity tipped me over the edge and i made him sleep in the car the whole night .. after that he was really care ful ...... just remember in a few months you will love him with all your heart again and will thenk him greatly for helping make your beautiful little bundle of joy.. although its not easy to remember that right now !!!

I actuallly logged in to have a rant of my own a mother in law fulled rant !!
We have just been shopping for ds xmas prezzie and we came across the subject of kate middleton ... AND SHE SAID>>>> "i dont know why she had to be rushed to hospital for morning sickness you had the same thing and didnt have to go to hospital they wouldnt do that if she wasnt royalty "

I was so hard not to have a hissy fit right there and then . i restrained myself and explained very calmly that i was very lucky not to be admitted to hospital as i had a little trick where i wud drink a glass of milk as i was falling asleep and if i went staright to sleep it wud stay down...
she just looked at me as if i was being dramatic and said "oh i didnt realise it was that serious "

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pugsmum just be glad that you don't have a MIL who is a midwife and still comes out with total crap "just keep eating and you will stop being sick, just keep eating". Clearly I hadn't tried eating little and often because I wanted to go in to hospital. She is a midwife and still is totally ignorant about hyperemesis

Just popping back with a quick note for reebok. Ranitidine is what you need for the acid. Works really well - much better than stuff like rennies or gaviscon which are only a quick fix (and not even that if you throw them up). You take it twice a day and it really keeps it at bay. Is a pretty cheap drug and has been prescribed safely in pregnancy for yonks so there should not be a problem. I was prescribed it the whole way through starting from 5 weeks (didn't really need it at the beginning as acid wasn't much of a factor then but I appreciated it very much through the whole second half of my pregnancy). Think you can also buy it otc if necessary but try for a prescription first.

Baby Joseph is a bit over two weeks old now and I am still getting used to not feeling/being/worrying about being sick all the time. My last vomit of the pregnancy was pretty spectacular though - all over the floor just after we were transferred to the delivery room! We had been left alone and poor DP was searching desperately for a sick bowl but only caught the latter half! I was totally "in the zone" at the time and barely aware of it happening but he filled me in afterwards . . . Good thing about vomiting in labour though was that I didn't really feel sick first, just suddenly knew each time that I was going to be sick almost immediately!

V. best wishes to all of you slogging through the first/second trimesters. The worst phase for me is a few threads back now (was in April/May) but in one of my hospital admissions I was given 22 consecutive bags of IV fluids/Hartmanns before the ketones disappeared and they agreed to let me out. And then I was back three days later anyway at 4+ again. So I appreciate how unutterably grim it all is and how endless it feels. The baby is lovely but even so I'm really not sure if I could do it again, and I'm very nervous about getting pregnant accidentally.

Kali Ranatadine, that was the name! Thanks so much for advsing Reebok. That last 'Swan Song' vomit of the pregnancy sounds spectacular - how was the labour apart from that? I remember your saying that they made grim predictions about spd and labour - I hope that they were wrong? I do remember your having to go in every few days at the lowest point - and now you're in the famous Pink Castle!
Pugsmum and Room How annoying that midwives would know so little. It's odd, it is mentioned in passing in pregnancy books for non medical people usually, after all...
Hugs to any who feel low and in need of them. I continue to worry about Ghoule.
Lucinda
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Thanks lucinda for trying and Kali for the fab info. Also congrats on your little one!!

Lol pugs. Least I'm not the only one!

Room, glad you're out and better.

Am currently I'm what I think is my 3rd or 4th ice lolly of the day ladies...and starting to feel depressed because it is one of the few and only things guaranteed to stay in me!! And it's the frigging winter!!! Argh if I could shoot HG I would!!!

Sorry I don't mean to worry but I'm a tired, grumpy cow who's antisocial to the point of ignoring phones and everyone. I've got a nasty cold, work are pissing me off and piling on pressure and NOTHING takes the edge off the acid.

I went back to work despite being signed off, as otherwise they'd trigger leave. I'd then not be able to get the 3 weeks holiday pay I get by working 1 more week so it'd be a months pay packet gone and it's needed. They've shown their appreciation by piling on loads of work. Nice. No flexibility. No opportunities to pee/ throw up as often as needed.

I'm tired, swollen with a sore throat and the urge to murder. Though on the plus side puking less. The baby seems to have dropped so the relief of pressure has helped a lot. I have though swapped this for on off contractions, massive heart burn, cankles and bloody discharge (cervical errosion apparently). I now have no sleep it seems.

Sorry this is pure rant but I've had enough already.

Ghoule I am shocked that work have used emotional blackmail to force you back. As a teacher, are you in a union? Surely they should get involved because this seems blatant discrimination to me. I was worried you were in hospital but this seems worse! Do you have to do a week to get this money?
MOP does know more than I do about current rights at work and Hyperemesis and you might try pm-ing her.
Reeboks Kali came up trumps as usual! It is ironical about the ice lollies, and so weird that they tend to stay down when nothing else works. I used to make ice cubes of flat coke, too...Oddly, tepid water helped me, why it should be that or frozen, I have no idea...
Hope Peppa Room Moomins and Everyone are coping?
Lucinda
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Hello - I've been lurking on this thread for a while but have decided to post and officially join you all.

I'm 11+0 and have been suffering with hyperemisis since around 6 weeks. This will be DC5 and was a much wanted pregnancy, following a miscarriage a couple of months earlier. I've had hyperemisis in my other pregnancies but it's never been as bad as this. I had a 3 day hospital stay at 8+5 but have avoided it since, although I've lost 2 stone. I'm currently taking 50mg of Cyclizine 3 times a day.

As you all know well, the physical symptoms are hideous but my DH is very supportive and (thank God) has been able to pretty much work from home throughout and pick up all the school and supermarket runs etc. Since the start of it, I've barely left the house and in fact, barely left my bedroom. I've become used to the terrible nausea and vomiting but am shocked at the impact this has had on my state of mind.

I feel like I have no emotional connection to this pregnancy and during our 'reassurance scan' at 8+2, rather than feeling delight at seeing the baby's beating heart, I am ashamed to admit that I just felt struck by hopelessness that this ordeal wasn't going to end any time soon. When I confessed this to DH, I could see how hurt he was. He later told me it was one of his saddest ever times. Since then, during one very dark day, I've even brought up termination. He looked devastated and asked me never to bring that up again but that he knows how bad I must be feeling to have said such a thing. He was then heartbreakingly sweet and kind, telling me what a wonderful person I am but I feel like the worst mother in the world.

I'm scared that if this ever passes (so hard to imagine) that I will be left with emotional scars and will not love the baby or will get PND or develop weird food issues or anxiety leaving the house. I don't recognise myself anymore and feel like I've completely withdrawn from my life.

Sorry to hear that Ghoule. I suggest contacting your union and seeing if anything can be done.

Welcome Thequeens. Sorry to hear youre feeling so rough but you've come to the right place and will get support here. I know exactly how you feel if that helps...I had a mmc in July so was ecstatic to find out I'm preg again...only since the hyperemesis kicked in, I keep having the same thoughts as you. I know I'd be devastated if I had another miscarriage as I wouldn't have the courage to try again after this experience...but I have had those thoughts. Pls don't feel bad. HG really messes with your head to the point that you don't even recognise yourself anymore. Being housebound also doesn't help. I don't leave the house except for appointments because I'm just too weak. Had to get signed off from work. It's great you have such a supportive husband. My hub doesn't quite get HG. Does my head in! Anyway, rant away...we are all here for you...no judgement ever xxx

Hello all.

Sorry to hear about those who are still suffering

Things are still going ok here, thankfully..... Im still sick a few times per day but i dont feel absolutely horrendous anymore. (just crap! which is manageable)

Im now 13weeks and will be looking after dd by myself for 3 days this week.

I also made it out to my village mummies Christmas meal on Friday, and although i didnt eat much, I actually enjoyed the turkey and gravy....

but im here to rant..... one of the mummies actually said to me "So dont you think its annoying that Kate has what you have"? I said no, actually im pleased as it raises awareness..... she then points out that she has herd of it so she says "So dont you think its ridiculous the Kate went to hospital" to which i replied "No, most people who actually have HG end up in hospital, including me, i was in the week before"
To which she replied...." my friend had HG, and she just kept eating, she was very 'stiff upper lip about it'" So yes, i pointed out that she probably didnt have it, or maybe she was having a day like mine that day..... as i have HG and i have just sat and eaten some turkey..... BUT that there are many days when i cant.

I dont think she will have registered anything i said, but even so AAAAAGGGHHHH.

I did then go on about HG can kill people, and how even having water in my mouth with the intension of rinsing bile and spitting it out, and not swallowing, was still enough to restart vomitting.

Anyway i had a lovely evening, it was lovely to see my mummy friends as not seen anyone since October, and they all said how happy my DD had been with my mum which made me really happy.
(and no one else went on about kate or HG etc etc)

I also had quite a few comments about how i had obviously lost weight yes about a stone so far, though i think now i can eat a bit of food most days hopefully i will stop loosing weight soon..... saying that im not sure as i dont get anywhere near 1800 or 2000 calories a day, but its all better than nothing.

Next mission is OHs Christmas work do this Friday.... dreading it as its at a curry place and i just cant "do curry" at all... (just thinking about it makes me feel ill)

Nannyl glad to hear you are feeling a bit better. Awful about that woman!! Some people are seriously ignorant no matter what information you give them. I can think of plenty of people close to me who think HG is nothing more than slightly heightened ms. We no longer talk about my pregnancy! Good on you though for giving it to them straight!

As for the curry night...good luck. Just typing that word has made me feel nauseous!

By the way, did you have your scan?? Forgot to ask in the midst of all the sickness!

Thank you Reebok. I actually feel better for just getting that out. I think it's been eating away at me inside.

As you say Nanny, those who haven't experienced it just don't understand. Being able to share this shitty experience with other women who are going through it too and 'get it' is a wonderful relief. Well done for having a crack at the turkey - I don't envy you your night out on Friday though.

Tomorrow will be a better day, I'm sure.

Is anyone else cooking Christmas Dinner this year?

Queens Just dashing on to say welcome. Poor you, you mustn't feel guilty as well as awful! Most people think of termination in their darkest hours, I think, and a lot can't connect emotionally for a long time. So many have said on
here 'I can't do this' but they did go through with it and come out OK the other end and bonded normally with the baby. Some people on here have had counseling, because for sure it is a traumatic experience. A couple who've had it throughout have had PTSD, and had counseling afterwards. I know I was dreadfully upset at the barbaric treatment I had and not being believed. You have been going through the worst stage. As a pre emptive move, it might be worth asking if your hospital offers counselling for people with Hypemesis? It's great DP is so good, doing all that shopping and childcare. I will see if on MOH's wonderful website there's any advice on counselling.
Nannyl That is infuriating. The self righteous belief that one vomits out of weakness is outrageous, and I've encountered it too.
Reebok and Room Moomins and Everyone; How are things today? Peppa I hope still feeling comparatively OK?
Ghoule I'll see if I can find anything on that topic on the Pregnancy Sickness SOS site too. I remember MOH advising someone on a web address that was relevant to this discrimination thing, can't find the link at the moment.
Lucinda
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Re my earlier post, Ghoule sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/employment-issues on MOH's wonderful website should cover this.
Lucinda
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