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My waters have broken too early, please help

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BadNails · 12/10/2011 21:31

This probably isn?t the right place to post this, so I apologise, but I need to share this in the hope that someone can either help me or that this helps someone else.

I rarely post, am more of a serial lurker but haven?t name changed even though I could be identified in RL. I?m beyond caring about this now anyway.

On Friday, I had a PROM. I was 22 weeks and 6 days pregnant. I wasn?t near home and was with colleagues so ended up at the nearest hospital, lacking my notes and terrified. I was scanned and examined. Things were not good. The deepest pool they found was 1.8cm. My DD still had a strong heartbeat and my cervix was closed. No one gave me false hope, it was explained that the prognosis for her was poor.

With no contractions kicking in, I was able to go to the hospital I am booked into and my consultant took over. She only saw me on the Monday and everything had been absolutely fine. I remember that she had smiled at me and DP, saying she would not expect to see us again and wished us well for the remainder of our pregnancy.

We were told that the gestation we were at presented a difficulty in that if we had been at 17-19 weeks, they would be recommending a termination and yet if we were at 25-26 weeks, they would be fighting all the way. It was just bad luck apparently.

I had felt some tightenings and so believing that labour would start at any time, they placed us into a special room. I was so dazed that it took me until Monday to realise that this special room was where they were expecting our DD to be born and then die. I?m not sure how I didn?t see this when the sign on the door clearly stated that it was kindly donated by SANDS. We had been told that there was an 80% chance that labour would begin within 48 hours, so I would be monitored during that time for this or any signs of infection setting in.

Two and a half days we stayed in that room, situated at the edge of the delivery suite. The midwives were all truly wonderful. With no contractions, I started to regain some hope. I searched the internet trying to find out more information about loss of amniotic fluid and survival rates. I have been on the SANDS, ARC and Bliss websites. I have read about miracles and tragedies. Me and DP swing between hope and despair, but have remained strong.

But today, I think I can?t cope anymore. We have been back home since Monday evening, waiting for a further scan, to see if the fluid has replenished. I have felt DD kicking away, but usually in the area (she can?t really move now). I have prayed to a god I have neglected since my mother died seven years ago. I am drinking enough water to fill a swimming pool in the hope that this might help (I read it somewhere).

DD1 (4 yrs) lives with her dad and we have maintained the story that I am unwell at the moment which is why she couldn?t come at the weekend. Thankfully, she hasn?t asked any questions about the baby, I am only just keeping it together when I speak to her on the phone.

Apparently AFI should be 10cm or so and below 5cm is critical. So I knew that 1.8cm wasn?t good. Today, I was scanned again by the consultant. DD is well with a strong heartbeat and is cephalic and able to stretch her legs a little. There is no AFI. The consultant couldn?t even give us a deepest pool. She estimated 0.5cm. I think my heart broke when she said that.

A paediatric registrar had already explained the importance of amniotic fluid on lung and limb development. Every piece of information given to us was geared towards the worst case scenario. I don?t think I can even remember everything said to us, now I just keep thinking our DD is going to die.

We were given the option to terminate but I am 24 weeks on Saturday, that?s when it could all change. Steroids, surfactant? We won?t be terminating. At 24 weeks, it?s a 50/50 survival rate and half of the babies who survive will have a major disability. There is no way of knowing what effect her current situation is having on her and that makes me feel so terribly guilty.

I?m scared and angry and I don?t know what to do. Apparently, nothing I do will alter the situation. I am still leaking fluid and I feel despair every time it comes out. I?m sorry if this all sounds self indulgent, but I?m trying to make sense of what has happened.

Thank you if you?ve been able to read all of this.

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BOOareHaunting · 13/10/2011 20:24

Badnails Only just found this thread and sending you (((HUGS))) and positive vibes. LO's can suprised us even before they're born. I am Hants and if theres anything I can do please let me know. Even if it's just some shopping/ housework so you can rest, rest rest.

I am between S'ton and Portsmouth.

My cousin was born in QA at 23+5 and less than a lb. She's fine and a year old. I also believe Portsmouth (now QA but maternity was St Mary's) have one of the highest survival rates.

WTW I have followed your sad thread. I didn't realise you are very near to me. QA is my local hospital. Please PM me if there's anything I can do. Your story really upset me and (and I hope it's not wrong to say this) it's really hammered home now you've mentioned QA as my Dsis is due end of Oct and that's her maternity hospital.

Melindaaa · 13/10/2011 20:30

BOO is your cousins name Matilda?

Hotpotpie · 13/10/2011 20:40

I dont know if you believe in prayer and I dont know if I do to be honest but said you one anyway what a terrible situation to be going through, and yet it sounds like you have a little fighter, best of luck for your family

Whatevertheweather · 13/10/2011 20:56

Oh BOO sorry to have upset you. What a small world. Please tell your dsis that QA were wonderful (as your cousin must know). They reacted so quickly with me and had DD out in under 2 hours from when we arrived for a trace. Sadly there was just nothing they could do. The midwives who cared for us during and after were fantastic. I had my elder DD at St Marys before maternity moved over! I live in Fareham.

badnails a poster up thread is right if you feel you would get better care at another hospital do see about changing if you can

BOOareHaunting · 13/10/2011 21:13

No, Melindaaa. When were you at QA? It may not have been the same time.

WTW You didn't upset me re my Dsis but more that it's hit home how terribly sad your situation is. I know your DD was premature but was due around October time. I also live in Fareham as does my sister! (you may know her?) Due the witching hour iyswim?!

I was also born St Mary's many moons ago.

thejaffacakesareonme · 13/10/2011 21:49

Thinking of you and your baby. Almost another day over.

HPSource · 13/10/2011 22:02

I can't begin to imagine what you are going through but I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Stay strong and keep the faith.

fliesonabroom · 13/10/2011 22:22

Thoughts and prayers with you, keep resting and taking it day be day. My friend had eclampse and her dd was born at 24 + 3, 4 months of fighting in NICU and a year on oxygen at night, she's now a happy, healthy 8 year old. You'd never know she was so prem. Fingers crossed for another happy ending.

tiredchocoholic · 14/10/2011 01:20

Like so many others, I'm afraid that I can't offer any advice....but you and your family are all in my thoughts and prayers, and I send you hope and hugs. Take good care, I am keeping everything crossed for you xxxx

BadNails · 14/10/2011 04:35

23+6 Smile

I can't sleep - I thought it was too good to be true that I fell asleep at a reasonable hour. I think Question Time was on and I wondered if the NHS reforms would affect my situation as my eyes were closing Grin

methe steroids are on the cards but not until next week. However I'm off to the hospital later this morning and I'm going to ask exactly when this is likely to be. I'll assume they won't do this on a Saturday which would suggest Monday and I'm back in for obs and bloods again.

I've done some research into St Peters and their NICU is looking good. Made me determined to get to 26 weeks where their survival rates were at a little over 90% a few years ago. Having said that given that the chances of this happening at this stage of pregnancy is less than 1% maybe I shouldn't place too much stock in statistics? Ah bugger, that's a bit negative isn't it??

Forgive the rambling, my stream of conciousness isn't quite Woolfian...

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BadNails · 14/10/2011 04:39

Whatever I realised last night that I had seen your thread. I am sorry that you lost your DD and I think you must have such amazing strength to be able to offer support to others so soon. So thank you for taking the time to be here Smile

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BadNails · 14/10/2011 04:47

BOO how kind of you to offer, but I'm in Surrey! Although not a million miles away really.

DP and I are thinking of Matilda as a middle name - it means something similar to strong/strength in battle. We liked that.

DD does actually have a name and it's Genevieve.

A few weeks ago me and my pregnant friend were having a giggle about how pretentious I was going to sound introducing my two daughters, but the name stuck.

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cupofteaplease · 14/10/2011 04:48

Sorry you are going through this. I wish you all the best luck and hope your little lady stays put for a few weeks yet. Keep your feet up! (Not that I have any idea if that helps, but getting some rest has to be good for you in some way Smile)

dizzyblonde · 14/10/2011 05:00

My friend had twins at 28 weeks at St Peters, they will be 20 in a few weeks time. Keeping fingers crossed for you. x

Succubi · 14/10/2011 05:08

My waters broke at 30 weeks with my second son. He was delivered by c-section at 35 weeks after my wonderful consultant said they had waited enough. Initially they thought I would go into labour within 48 hours. Had the steroid injection to assist with lung development and was admitted to hospital so they could monitor the heartbeat every 4 hours, my blood pressure, bloods (infection markers crp etc) and temperature.

My only advice is take your temperature regularly and if you feel the slightest bit funny or ill (cold or flu like systems) get yourself back to the day assessment unit or a&e immediately. My consultant advised me not to ignore any feelings of illness no matter how slight. Infection was what they were really worried about. I had a high crp throughout my pregnancy which worried them but my son was born fine.

You are doing wonderfully well hang on in there and good luck.

RainySmallHands · 14/10/2011 05:34

Beautiful name Smile

Wishing you and your little fighter all the luck in the world.

Melindaaa · 14/10/2011 06:45

Boo, I don't know why I keep thinking the baby's name was Matilda, it's Tabitha! Can't imagine there were many 15oz, 23 week babies in Portsmouth last year. She was born after we left, but met her when she was around nine months at the NICU coffee morning.

ncjust4this · 14/10/2011 18:16

Hope all went well at the hospital today, they started you on the steroids and babygirlnails is still hanging in there x

BOOareHaunting · 14/10/2011 18:23

Ha Ha melindaaa right baby, wrong name. But yes T is the right baby Grin And I can't imagine there's too many 23 weekers born under a 1lb, often!!!

badnails Happy 23+6 - tomorrow is the 24 week mark. Surrey isn't that far away, OK not a quick trip, but one I'd be willingly to make to help out if it was needed.
Love the name Genevieve - it always sounds so Hollywood glamorous to me.

BadNails · 14/10/2011 19:36

Hello, hope everyone is having a good Friday. I can't believe a whole week has gone by.

Today has felt exceptionally long. We were at the hospital for ages, I even got fed whilst I was there Grin

The midwife initially said that steroids was something we would get at around 27 weeks and she was met with this Shock look. DP explained that we had been told that if we made it to 24 then we would be getting them so now it looks like there is a chance I'll be getting a lovely injection to my backside on Sunday/Monday. I hate that these things have to be asked for.

I've read that you need to become your baby's champion and as twee and romantic as that sounds, it feels sort of true. I've had to explain again that we won't be terminating. I understand why people may feel this is the right choice for their circumstances, but I need to fight for her or I just won't have any peace of mind.

Sorry for the tangent Blush

I'm waiting to hear about today's blood results but at the moment they are happy with what they are seeing. CRP went up after the weekend, but apparently this is normal after rupture and it should correct itself.

DP has sorted out my sick leave and MATB1 so one less thing to worry about. Apparently the receptionist was lovely and said we would be in her thoughts. I'm taken aback by the kindness out there (if I said what I did for a living, you'd understand why!)

cupoftea apparently resting has been shown to help stimulate the production of fluid or so the midwife said today! I'm clinging on to anything! She was slightly more dubious about me drinking like a fish but it can't be too bad for me.

succubi Thank you! I'm pleased everything worked out for you. I am indeed taking my temp every four hours. I worry that I would miss something because I feel quite tired a lot of the time, but so far, so good.

Quick question to all the ladies who have had a pprom - did you still get the occasional ligament stretching aches/pains? I've been getting a couple, nothing worrying over the last few days. I'm guessing this is normal, I sometimes have to remind myself that I'm still pregnant and therefore will still get all the usual pregnancy symptoms.

BOO if I get through this in one piece, I'll buy you a tea/coffee/poison of choice! Thank you for the kind offer to journey cross county Smile Party tomorrow will consist of me drinking water and watching a Disney film with DD1 as per her request tonight! I'm hardcore I am Grin

Hollywood glamour! I'll have to tell DP that - to be honest I'm still amazed I got the name passed his filters!

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RainySmallHands · 14/10/2011 19:42

Fantastic news, nails Smile. I've been thinking of you today. Small steps, every hour helps.

fliesonabroom · 14/10/2011 19:43

You are being so brave and strong. Thank you for keeping us all up to date - I'm mesmerised by your thread! Keep fighting for your baby, I love the name by the way - a real heroine's name.

HPSource · 14/10/2011 19:52

Lovely to hear from you. I have been keeping watch waiting for an update, I'm pleased it's good news. Keep fighting for your baby girl, it seems she is putting up a brave fight too - if you need a boost, take what strength you can from the posts on this thread, we're rooting for you, your little one and your DP. Rest, rest and rest some more.

bluebump · 14/10/2011 20:00

Wishing you and your DD lots of luck - lovely name too!

HeadsRollingInTheAisles · 14/10/2011 20:07

Great update, you made another day! I love the name Genevieve, graceful and strong.