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My waters have broken too early, please help

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BadNails · 12/10/2011 21:31

This probably isn?t the right place to post this, so I apologise, but I need to share this in the hope that someone can either help me or that this helps someone else.

I rarely post, am more of a serial lurker but haven?t name changed even though I could be identified in RL. I?m beyond caring about this now anyway.

On Friday, I had a PROM. I was 22 weeks and 6 days pregnant. I wasn?t near home and was with colleagues so ended up at the nearest hospital, lacking my notes and terrified. I was scanned and examined. Things were not good. The deepest pool they found was 1.8cm. My DD still had a strong heartbeat and my cervix was closed. No one gave me false hope, it was explained that the prognosis for her was poor.

With no contractions kicking in, I was able to go to the hospital I am booked into and my consultant took over. She only saw me on the Monday and everything had been absolutely fine. I remember that she had smiled at me and DP, saying she would not expect to see us again and wished us well for the remainder of our pregnancy.

We were told that the gestation we were at presented a difficulty in that if we had been at 17-19 weeks, they would be recommending a termination and yet if we were at 25-26 weeks, they would be fighting all the way. It was just bad luck apparently.

I had felt some tightenings and so believing that labour would start at any time, they placed us into a special room. I was so dazed that it took me until Monday to realise that this special room was where they were expecting our DD to be born and then die. I?m not sure how I didn?t see this when the sign on the door clearly stated that it was kindly donated by SANDS. We had been told that there was an 80% chance that labour would begin within 48 hours, so I would be monitored during that time for this or any signs of infection setting in.

Two and a half days we stayed in that room, situated at the edge of the delivery suite. The midwives were all truly wonderful. With no contractions, I started to regain some hope. I searched the internet trying to find out more information about loss of amniotic fluid and survival rates. I have been on the SANDS, ARC and Bliss websites. I have read about miracles and tragedies. Me and DP swing between hope and despair, but have remained strong.

But today, I think I can?t cope anymore. We have been back home since Monday evening, waiting for a further scan, to see if the fluid has replenished. I have felt DD kicking away, but usually in the area (she can?t really move now). I have prayed to a god I have neglected since my mother died seven years ago. I am drinking enough water to fill a swimming pool in the hope that this might help (I read it somewhere).

DD1 (4 yrs) lives with her dad and we have maintained the story that I am unwell at the moment which is why she couldn?t come at the weekend. Thankfully, she hasn?t asked any questions about the baby, I am only just keeping it together when I speak to her on the phone.

Apparently AFI should be 10cm or so and below 5cm is critical. So I knew that 1.8cm wasn?t good. Today, I was scanned again by the consultant. DD is well with a strong heartbeat and is cephalic and able to stretch her legs a little. There is no AFI. The consultant couldn?t even give us a deepest pool. She estimated 0.5cm. I think my heart broke when she said that.

A paediatric registrar had already explained the importance of amniotic fluid on lung and limb development. Every piece of information given to us was geared towards the worst case scenario. I don?t think I can even remember everything said to us, now I just keep thinking our DD is going to die.

We were given the option to terminate but I am 24 weeks on Saturday, that?s when it could all change. Steroids, surfactant? We won?t be terminating. At 24 weeks, it?s a 50/50 survival rate and half of the babies who survive will have a major disability. There is no way of knowing what effect her current situation is having on her and that makes me feel so terribly guilty.

I?m scared and angry and I don?t know what to do. Apparently, nothing I do will alter the situation. I am still leaking fluid and I feel despair every time it comes out. I?m sorry if this all sounds self indulgent, but I?m trying to make sense of what has happened.

Thank you if you?ve been able to read all of this.

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Methe · 13/10/2011 15:15

Hi, WorzselMummage here, I see you've already been directed to my post :)

Sorry you're going through pprom, it's bloody awful :( have you managed to find the Kanelan page? If you search WorzselMummage & pprom you would shouldfond the new site address. There is a Facebook page too. I can't write much, I'm on my phone waiting to pick up dd from school but I will just say my ds is sat next to me, almost 3 and absolutely perfect except for a few very minor mobility issues. We were told to expect the worst and really did but he's ok. these babies are amazing.

Fingers crossed for 24 weeks.

bigmacandhappymeal · 13/10/2011 15:18

I can't begin to imagine what you are going through, but want you to know that you and your family are being thought of.

With every best wish for a happy outcome
x

Methe · 13/10/2011 15:31

The Wonderful Kanelan.org/pprom website has changed address. It is now..

www.inkan.se/pprom/

The Facebook group is www.facebook.com/groups/pprom?id=10150706324985323¬if_t=group_activity

sarah x

BadNails · 13/10/2011 15:41

Thank you for all the crossing of digits Smile

beatrice my EDD is 4th February, so we would have been on the same 'bus'. Although I decided to not join an MN antenatal bus as I thought to myself, ah well I've done this all before so it'll be just like going through the motions Sad

Hi Methe glad you have dropped in. I read your thread and did find the Kanalen site, although I'm not on FB anymore - I'll see if it's still open to me as a non member. I am so pleased to hear your DS is healthy and happy. Your story and some of the others really do keep my faith alive.

DD is being very active today. I am ashamed to think that sometimes it is a little uncomfortable (due to lack of fluid I believe) until I tell myself off for being ungrateful. Of course I am delighted to know that she is still able to have a little party in there. I worry that she may be uncomfortable or in any pain.

I made the stupid mistake of reading about cord prolapse today. Why am I so drawn to flippin' Google?!

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ncjust4this · 13/10/2011 15:41

Methe - I just wanted to say you were a few weeks ahead of me when I got pregnant. Your thread made me cry, gave me hope and strength, and restored my faith in humanity. I am so pleased your DS is doingso well. I shall never forget either of you or what you went through. Your strength was and is an insparation.

Badnails - I hope your story has just as happy an ending. Thinking of you.

BadNails · 13/10/2011 15:42

xposts - thank you Sarah, will have a look now

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Melindaaa · 13/10/2011 15:49

My waters around one of my twins broke at 18 weeks. They were born at 23 weeks and 5 days. Tiny, and were in hospital until their due date but they are perfect. I know far, far more premature babies who are perfect, than those not.

BadNails · 13/10/2011 16:01

Melindaaa it is so good to read things like that. Wow though, can't imagine DD coming today! Do you mind me asking how much your twins weighed and how much aftercare you had once leaving the hospital?

It turns out I can't access the FB page without reactivating my account, which I can't for work related reasons, but I have reread the Kanalen advice and it is really inspiring stuff. Makes me feel less alone.

Think I'm going to log off for a bit, but will check back in later x

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banana87 · 13/10/2011 16:24

Everything crossed here! Remember that every day that passes means a better chance for your DD.

RollingInTheAisles · 13/10/2011 16:31

Just saying hello again today and thinking of you, you're nearly through another day x

bumbums · 13/10/2011 17:32

Nearly at 23+6! Was thinking, you know how people say having a large meal can start labour?? So was going to say that eating little and often may be better than 3 big meals? It could be Rollocks but thought I'd post it anyway.
Prayers and best wishes to you. x

diyvspse · 13/10/2011 17:38

BadNails, thinking of you today & very much hope you reach & exceed your goal of 24 weeks. xx

Methe · 13/10/2011 17:41

Thank you ncjust4this, That's a lovely thing to say :) MN support really helped me though that time, it was really tough :(

BadNails could you make a new FB account just for Kanelan?

farfallarocks · 13/10/2011 17:44

badnails I am keeping everything crossed for you, great you can still feel your DD moving.

LittleWhiteWereWolf · 13/10/2011 17:50

I read this thread the other day just before going out so didn't post (sorry to have read and run) but I've not been able to get you and your current situation out of my mind. I so, so hope things go well for you and that you reach 24 weeks.

I'll be thinking of you

Whatevertheweather · 13/10/2011 17:56

badnails I saw in your earlier post you mentioned Southampton. Are you under Princess Anne hospital at the General? If so my SIL is a nurse practioner in scbu there. They are one of the best hospitals around for premature births you and dc will be in excellent hands if she is to be born there. There is a consultant there called Mark Ashton who is one of the best in the country. If you are and you want me to message you my SIL name I can. I can also let her know about you and make sure you get extra special care Smile She deals with the high risk births to so you may well meet her. Any help I can be do let me know. I'm local to Southampton as well x

Melindaaa · 13/10/2011 18:48

Badnails, my twins weighed 1lb 5oz and 1lb 3 oz.

They were ventilated at birth and weaned off the ventilator at 6-7 weeks. They then spent another 5 or so weeks on cpap, being weaned onto oxygen. One twin came off oxygen completely at 38-39 weeks gestation, the other came home on it, needing it mainly for feeds for a couple of weeks.

They had no brain bleeds, no ROP, their PDAs closed without medication or surgery. Of course there were ups and downs, but we came through it.

We haven't had many follow up appointments. They were seen at first by the Child Development Centre, but don't need to be seen again until they are two as they are doing so well. As routine they are also seen every four months by the OT and PT. Again, they have seen no problems. Twin 1 was checked for a squint, and both babies have had follow up heart scans and discharged.

No one would look at my twins and think they were born so early. They are incredibly hard work, but I wouldn't change one thing.

Of course they bare the scars from NICU. Their little hands and arms are covered in scars from canulas, and their feet have so many pricks for blood tests that they are a mass hard, tiny lumps.

You may have come across our journal on your travels www.twinsjoeandharry.blogspot.com but if not here is the link. I hardly write in it now as they are just average babies, but it was updated every day in the early days so will give you Ann idea of what to expect. There are lots of pictures, but it's hard to get a scale of how small they were.

Whatevertheweather, Mark Ashton was our consultant in Portsmouth, has he now moved?

Melindaaa · 13/10/2011 18:53

Ps we aren't too far from Southampton if you want some IRL support, and you can meet my crazy duo, and see for yourself that prematurity doesn't always end badly.

We spent time in NICU at Southampton, and while I preferred Portsmouth they all seemed lovely for the short time we were there (only 4 days or so I think, while Twin 1 had his hernia repaired)

Whatevertheweather · 13/10/2011 18:57

Melindaa how strange! Yes he still covers QA as well as Southampton. He was my dd's consultant, she was born in QA 7 weeks ago. Unfortunately we did not have a good outcome (nothing to do with prom though) but he was excellent. So compassionate with us and took a lot of time to explain things and he really did give her the very best chance but she was too poorly.

spiderlight · 13/10/2011 19:09

Just wanted to say that you're in my thoughts. My friend went through similar many years ago - I don't know the exact details, sorry, but her son is now a big strapping lad in his second year of medical school.

annekins · 13/10/2011 19:22

I just wanted to add my support for you at this horrible time of waiting and waiting...I can't imagine how you are feeling at the moment, but wanted to wish you the strength and courage to get through this, and sincerely hope that it is a happy ending xx

BadNails · 13/10/2011 19:39

Unfortunately, I'm not booked into Southampton (although wishing I was now with all the good praise!) I started off at the Princess Anne as it was the nearest when my waters went. I'm under the care of the Royal Surrey in Guildford and depending on when DD arrives, the closest tertiary unit is St Peters in Chertsey.

Thank you Melindaaa and Whatever for the offer of RL support, but I imagine Guildford is a little far!

Melindaaa, thanks for sharing more of what happened with your twins. I guess it's a good sign that I'm not assuming the worst will happen. I certainly want to visit my local NICU so I have more of an idea of what to expect. I will have a look at your blog.

Banana, Rolling, diy, farfall, nc and LittleWhite - yep, nearly another day Smile thanks for the good thoughts

bumbums Hmm, well, what's the worst that can happen if I just graze all day?! I'm struggling to get a meal down me at the moment (I was before this happened owing to ever increasing heartburn).

Methe new FB account is a very good idea. I am loving the Kanelan website.

I spoke with DD1's dad this evening, he is bringing her over on Saturday for a couple of hours Grin can't wait!

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Methe · 13/10/2011 19:47

You can change hospital at any time. In your situation i'd look at which hospital has the best NICU and ask to be transfer your care there.

Did I read up thread that they wont give you the steroids?

Melindaaa · 13/10/2011 19:54

Portsmouth quoted me a 70% chance of each of my twins surviving. They said they had one of the best rates in the Uk.

AnaisB · 13/10/2011 20:20

So sorry you're going through this. Can't begin to imagine how hard the waiting must be. Will keep everything crossed that you last some more days.

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