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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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Belladons · 22/11/2011 14:59

Hi all, well that didn't last long! Was sick yesterday morning for about 3 hours, then felt ok-ish and managed a slice of toast, went to work, had ok day. 4.00pm started to feel very queesy, so left, had to get off train a stop early in the cold to be sick. slept ok, but then it started again at 3am, and now have been sick almost every hour since.

Have been trying to sip water, lucozade, ice lollies in between, tried a couple of dried biscuits - but nothing is staying down and feel pretty dreadful. Definitely off to the docs - but note sure what to try and get prescribed? Remember being on something begining with B last time that didn't work - Buchastem or something?

Any suggestions would be great.

thanks ladies - wishing those of you who are suffering well soon.

LucindaE · 22/11/2011 18:08

Belindarose Poor you, much sympathy and gentle cyber pats. I think you should try and get meds, the sickness is totally disrupting your normal life and making your life a misery. Arm yourself with info from *MOH's wonderful website sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/ and see if you can get back up from OH or from a friend - it's hard to argue your corner when you feel as if you are going to be sick, but should you feel you need to be sick in front of the doctor or in the waiting room, don't let good manners make you hesitate - they need to know how bad it is. It's so hard to know what is acceptable as it varies so for different people. Try to keep sipping away little andoften to keep rehydrated, that's the main thing.
Belladons Cyber pats for you, too, how disappointing, and it sounds violent, I suppose you will be at the doctor's tommorow am? Being sick every hour will have you dehydrated in no time as you know too well. I'm so sorry jelly and ice lollies not soothing. It's so horrible, it looks like all you can do is take sips of water in the knowledge that some of it stays down though it doesn't seem like it, until you can get meds tommorow.
Lucinda
xx

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fleurelise · 23/11/2011 12:59

Hi and welcome to Belindarose and Belladons Really sorry to hear you are going through this. Now, as LucindaE says, everyone is different so I'm only going to talk from personal experience.

I was given Cyclizine when I was keeping nothing down at about 7 weeks, which helped tons at first, but then I found I was being sick again. The ladies here then recommended Ordansetron which helped me a great deal. In both cases I've found the nausea is still present, but reduced enough that I could keep some food down - and stop losing weight! GPs vary, but once you tell them the number of times you've thrown up in a relatively short time period this will tend to help.

Also, getting lots of rest helped, it might mean nothing gets done but it's better than throwing up until you're weak and dehydrated and in hospital on a drip.

Hope this helps - and hope you both get something to relieve the sickies!!

belindarose · 23/11/2011 13:11

Thanks. I can't get an appointment till tomorrow. Thing is, I'm not being sick that much (only twice so far today), it's more that nausea is stopping me from eating in the first place. I can drink sips of water. Maybe I'm just pathetic and it's normal. I've lost over a stone in a month.

LucindaE · 23/11/2011 13:36

Fleurliese Thanks for excellent advice, how are you today?
Belindarose For sure you are not a wimp, losing a stone in weight in weeks cannot possibly be normal, even if the vomiting isn't that frequent. Make sure you emphasize this at the doctors's appointment and try and bring someone to back you up.
How is everyone?
Lucinda
xx

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fleurelise · 23/11/2011 13:45

I wondered the same, then browsed on other boards and talked with friends before concluding that my symptoms were beyond 'normal' nausea and vomiting.

The main differences I found between me and other sufferers was that they found relief from the typical remedies, such as crystalised ginger, eating little and often, peppermint/ginger tea, dry crackers by your bed etc. I tried all of that before visiting my GP. As you are able to sip water, hopefully you'll be able to keep yourself sufficiently hydrated, but only you can determine how bad you feel. I would definitely say you're not being pathetic! x

fleurelise · 23/11/2011 13:52

Hi Lucinda I'm okay today, only mild nausea and was able to get on and do stuff. Which is a big relief as I need to travel around quite a bit over the next couple of days for work. As I'm only 11 weeks I've got by without telling work yet but may have to soon as travel tends to aggravate the nausea.. The next few days will be telling...

spannermary · 23/11/2011 14:14

Hi, there, everyone. Well, I've been into work today for the first time in ages to have a meeting with the Head about my phased return, starting next week. This is all good and we have arranged the dates. I managed the train journey there and back and, although I felt very sick, I wasn't.

She also had a difficult pregnancy (she was diagnosed with something called 'help' which sounds a bit like pre-eclampsia). So she has some understanding of what I'm going through.

But when I got on the train to come home I burst into tears. I felt so tired and drained. It didn't help that she mentioned that I had been unsuccessful in my performance management, but couldn't tell me in which area - as it was the assistant head who assesses this. The performance management happened during my 2 month absence, as they had deadlines, so I didn't have an opportunity to discuss this before it was submitted. She says that unsuccessful area was not to do with competency, won't effect my pay progression or position, and is more about the pace with which I was achieving the targets (she thinks) and she said several times not to worry about it, but I still feel like I've been kicked.

I'm now sat on the sofa, with heartburn and nausea feeling totally overwhelmed. I know this isn't strictly HG related, but thought you guys would understand, and wouldn't mind me going off topic a little.

Still - 2 train journeys in one day and no vomiting - that's good, right! (clutching at straws a little...)

LucindaE · 23/11/2011 16:54

Fleurise Goodness, how have you managed to conceal things? Youmust have been so stoic...Good luck with journeying about. Fusses and clucks...
Spannermary I had no idea you were due to go back to work so soon - are you SURE you're up to it? Nowonder you are tired and drained! It does take ages to get over Hyperemesis - it puts such a strain on the system. I hope the phased return is gentle, but congratulations on two journeys with no puking. It doesn't sound fair they did some sort of assessment when you were away - no wonder you feel upset,inside and out.
Do try and take it easy as much as you can, both of you...
Lucinda
xx

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MOH100 · 23/11/2011 17:52

belindarose welcome and sorry but it does sound like the start of HG. It's not likely to improve in the next few weeks and will probably get worse, so you need to get treatment as soon as possible. If you've lost weight, then you definitely need help. The good news is that there are antiemetics you can take and they are safe. The bad news is that GP education in this country is so shockingly bad that many GPs don't know the facts. You may be fine and have a good GP who will give you help immediately. If your GP was able to help you when you saw them then you can ignore the rest of this post.

If not, don't be discouraged, find another GP if you can, and if that doesn't work, ask for a referral to a consultant. If you look at the page 'obtaining treatments' in the 'treatment' section of the website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk there is some advice on how to get treatment if your GP refuses to treat. In order to show that you mean business when you see the doctors, go to the 'documents' page of the website, print the documents which are there and take them with you to the consultation. Quite a few women on this thread, myself included, have had success with this strategy, I'm pretty sure my GP would have just fobbed me off if I hadn't shoved all this stuff under her nose.

Let us know how you get on.

belindarose · 23/11/2011 17:57

Thanks so much, what a brilliant thread. What worries me is that the only appointment I could get for tomorrow is with a medical student being reviewed by a qualified GP! Hardly likely to be an expert in HG! Obviously the GP will be in charge, but still, a bit of experience would be nice. Not slagging off medical students - my DH was once one and I remember his struggles to deliver the required number of babies very well!

I've managed to eat brazil nuts today. Just came into my head and the thought didn't make me retch, so I tried them. Proud of myself!

spannermary · 23/11/2011 19:21

You're right, Belinda this thread is such a tonic. Congrats on the brazil nuts!

LucindaE - up until today I felt totally ready to go back. Wobbling a bit now, but will give it a go! I'm only in 3 days next week, and 2 are part days, which is a good start. They have said it's a process that will continually be reviewed if it's too much, and some of it will be out of the classroom doing paperwork to help transfer of info when I leave for mat leave in February which is far less tiring.

On the plus side it was great to see so many friends, and the kids are so excited for me - which was great!

Should all be fine but all I want to do now is curl up in a heap. Instead will indulge in warm bath while wonderful hubby makes dinner. Had a good talk with him and that helped put things in perspective. Love him!

Also, I only had 6 hours sleep last night - not including all the wake up wees! So I'm genuinely exhausted. Can relax till Tuesday.

Hope everyone else is doing ok. :)

horseynewmum · 23/11/2011 19:30

Hi everyone and welcome to all new people. Sorry we have to meet over such a grim condition but least we can all support each other through this.

Thank you to all the previous suffers who have come back and told us its worth it. I'm still having days when I think why me, what have I done, why am I doing this but I'm slowly getting closer to the pink fluffy castle.

I've started writing what HG has done to me and how i've been treated due to it. Its good writing out your feelings but also I hope it could be used to help future suffers understand what is happening to them. I've titled it 'the darker side to pregnancy.' I'm mad i know :o

The reason i've not been on for a while is i had taken a u-turn at weekend. I was being so sick non-stop again that my DH was going to take me in monday to hospital but thankfully i've slowly got bit better but it has taken a few days to get some strength back. Sickness has reduced back to usual amount.

DH is very concerned with my weight loss. we think i've lost another half a stone. I've tried to explain that I know I need to eat more but it is hard when feeling sick all the time and I feel if I eat too much i will be sick which make me not want to eat. Does anyone understand what I mean?

Anyway thats enough of a moan from me. hope all else is managing ok

MOH100 · 23/11/2011 21:28

belindarose you might be ok, younger doctors on the whole tend to be better than the old dinosaurs who were at medical school in the shadow of the thalidomide tragedy and were taught that hyperemesis was all in the head. If the med student has done an obs/gynae rotation with a decent consultant who knows how to treat HG you might be quids in.

horsey totally understand, you're eating and thinking at the same time, if I overdo it I'll throw it all up and then i'll have eaten nothing, but if I just eat a little and it stays down, then I've eaten something. are you on meds? maybe you need more or different ones. have you tried ondansetron? It's not good to be losing weight.

spannermary brazil nuts well done, that's advanced eating!

belindarose · 24/11/2011 09:48

Been to the GP. After suggesting ginger biscuits and dry crackers, they did prescribe me metaclopramide. Hopefully it'll work, and soon.

My house is such a tip, which makes it all worse! I can't clean it because I feel so bad, but looking at it or knowing it's there makes me feel grim too. If the meds work, do you tend to have periods of feeling fine and able to do things, followed by feeling awful again, or should you become more stable and generally okay?

seapie · 24/11/2011 10:15

Hello all

Sorry to see so many people are having a crap time at the moment. I noticed a couple of teachers on the thread who seem to be in a similar position to the one I was in a couple of months ago. Despite having my timetable reduced I was still very sick and I got very depressed about not coping. My teaching was just about survival, and my toddler was really suffering as all I could do in the time when I wasn't at work was lie down or throw up.

However, my GP has signed me off sick for the duration and it is amazing what a difference it has made. Yes, I still have periods of sickness, but there are days when I feel almost normal (well, apart from the SPD and looking like a whale). I am able to rest each afternoon, so that I am well enough to pick my daughter up from pre-school and play with her/read stories before bedtime. This has made me less stressed about being a bad mother, and I think this has helped me cope much better. I've even cut down the ondansetron and don't need to take it every day now.

Teaching is not a job where you can take it easy. Even if you try sitting down for 5 minutes someone will put their hand up/spill something/set fire to their tie with a Bunsen burner! Not to mention all the rushing around to assembly/registration/staff meetings etc. Then the fact that in my school the labs are downstairs but the toilets are upstairs..........

I suppose in my rather heavy handed sort of way I want to offer support to anyone out there who is struggling to be too many things at once (mum, friend, partner, housewife, professional). If you get the chance to take some time off, grab it and don't feel guilty! Doctors and employers should be made aware of the importance of rest in this condition.

I'm 30 weeks now so maybe it's just co-incidence that I'm feeling better. I hope I haven't upset anyone; just wanted to give a bit of hope to those who are still in those dark days.

belindarose · 24/11/2011 10:23

Wow, seapie, 30 weeks of it. That must be so hard. I'm a teacher (special school) too though only on part time supply at the moment - meaning of course I don't get paid if I don't go! Won't be getting any pay for November. But there's no way I could work in this state, not even 'the bare minimum' as my DH suggests.

seapie · 24/11/2011 11:00

belindarose that's hard being on supply. I'm only 0.6, but at least that's a permanent contract so I have the safety net of sick pay. And from my experience, even the 'bare minimum' (in my case 2 lessons a day on a reduced timetable) isn't possible as I got so stressed about preparing and marking and being in school at the right time, and not throwing up until after the lessons. I felt I had to be extra hardworking to make up for the fact that I was being given an 'easy time' on a reduced timetable. Whilst many of my colleagues were supportive, I did get the 'It's just a bit of morning sickness' comments, mainly from women who had breezed through their pregancies glowing and full of energy............

belindarose · 24/11/2011 12:02

Yes, I can't manage the planning and prep either. Also have a toddler like you. They wouldn't give me a contract as I had too much sick leave last term when I had a temp one - I had a miscarriage so had 3 weeks (6 working days) off! I hate the place anyway, but the loss of money will hit us hard if I don't go back at all.

But, I'm feeling a little bit normal and might try eating a biscuit and walking the dog.

LucindaE · 24/11/2011 12:33

Wow, I don't know how people manage as teachers, Seapie that was a lovely thoughtful post.The thought of Hyperermesis and the loos upstairs when working in the basement Shock...
Belindarose I am so glad you got treatment, I'm sure MOH's website's advice helped there. The affect of the drugs on women seems to vary so much from person to person. Some people feel a lot better from taking meds on, others have good and bad days, many have to try a couple before they find the right one, but I hope this works for you at once...
HorseyNewMum Sorry that you were really bad again - glad you didn't h ave to go in for IV. I think the article sounds a great idea, the more publicity the better.
Spannemary Fleurliese I hope you are still doing OK.

Waves to all.
Lucinda
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spannermary · 24/11/2011 12:41

How interesting that there are so many teachers on this thread: and BelindaRose - a Special Needs teacher too! What sort of school do you teach at? My students are PMLD, so my usual day would consist of lots and lots of hoisting, tube-feeding, pushing wheelchairs and getting the kids onto the floor...much of that will be on hold when I go back (strictly no hoisting: Doctor's orders...)

Luckily though, I have a great team of TAs who are all older than me, and I feel quite mothered by them - although the downside is I get to hear all the labour horror stories!

Feeling a bit more positive after a good night's sleep. Glad I've got the chance to rest between now and Tuesday and then, if going back to work is too much for me, I'll listen to my body, and cut way back on my commitments again - whatever that may mean. :)

Thanks for all the kind words, people!

belindarose · 24/11/2011 12:46

Mine are mostly ASD with some SLD and PMLD - ks1. Thing is, it's not 'my school'. I don't know anyone well, don't feel supported or anything. We moved area after the last maternity leave and this is the job I found, but I'm just not part of the place. So I can't expect much support, moral or otherwise.

Sorry to sound self- indulgent. Hope everyone is doing okay today.

belindarose · 24/11/2011 17:51

Sorry, me again. Just wondering if anyone can advise. I've started the metaclopramide today. I haven't been sick and have eaten a bit more than I was managing. However, when it wears off, I'm feeling more nauseous than before, I think. Absolutely dreadful. I've got one more to take today. Don't know whether to take it now so I can cope with DD's bedtime better (DH working late at last minute) or wait until later so that it helps me through the evening. I suppose I'll take it now. But will dread this feeling coming back!

Clandy · 24/11/2011 18:59

Hello ladies I have been to docs today n got some meds unfortunately I can't remember the name (begins with c) and have just sat down down a long horrid day of being sick and do not wish to move so will inform later Smile feeling so much more positive now GrinGrin had an awful few days n now everyone at work is gossiping about me being pregnant or not!!

Just a quick stop in will catch up as soon as I can x

toomanydinosaurs · 24/11/2011 20:06

Hi everyone. Can I join you? I've been really sick for a couple of weeks and have hardly eaten or drunk anything during that time. I finally went to see my gp this week and he prescribed stemetil which seemed to work a bit on the vomiting side but did nothing for the constant nausea. Also it gave me (tmi) diareah! So he's changed my prescription to Phenergan. Have any of you been on phenergan and what was your experience with it? Doctor said it's safer than cyclizine which he was going to prescribe and then did the switch on me!

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