Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

A new thread needed here already! Lovely Grumblin who started the second one, may be actually having that baby at this minute!

I hope this will be a source of support for present sufferers and ex sufferers alike and also worried family members.

I want particularly to mention my favourite feline FluffyWhiteKittens, who has been so invaluable a source of support on the old threads, and MOH, who has slaved to produce articles full of useful information and links to useful websites, LaTrucha, lovely CaramelloKoalaLover, Grumblin, NitNat, La, Lottie, Grandmagain, MaryLou, Cocoanuts and so many that I cannot name everyone for fear that the current sufferer may became annoyed at the long list...

Never worry about tmi or moaning. When suffering one has to discuss things that would make most people go weak at the knees and to have a good moan can help enormously with an illness where there is still a lot of ignorance and sometimes insensitive treatment.

It might help to remember - when you are at your worst - the words in that Eastern story.
'This Too Shall Pass.'

LucindaE
xx

ps. During labour and even thru the worst pain i kept repeating "this too shall pass" its a bloody god send of a saying!

Theonly, let me be the first to congratulate you! So exciting that your little DD has arrived and you're finally HG-free: as you say, bliss! Great news! Hope the staff calm down about her feeding regime and you get to go home asap. I'm sure everything will be fine. :)

Just want to say congratulations, will try and get back to write more about feeding issues as experienced dome of this with dd.

Right, back again. Sorry you had such a traumatic birth experience, it always seems doubly unfair when we've had shit pregnancies as well..
Firstly I know you won't want to hear this but try and stay in hospital for another day or two, especially if you lost a lot of blood, the initial high of giving birth may well crash and leave you feeling exhausted.
And I say this as someone who had to stay in 10 days with dd and was climbing the Walls by the end!
Is Harper (damn that Beckham woman :)) bottle,breast or tube fed?
I expect they want to keep her fluid levels up and also if bf to ensure good supply. Dd had bad jaundice and needed extra fluid. So as annoying and frustrating as it is there is a reason. It is an utter pita though. I still shudder thinking about it, I had to express (usually waiting for pumps as there weren't enough), change nappy, tube feed, try to bf, eat, sleep, shower etc within 3 hours. It was pretty much impossible and I remember one of the health assistants looking at me like I was useless because we had got about an hour and a half behind time :(
You may well have to resort to the "this too shall pass" mantra again.
But it will, and I am now passing cake and pink champagne in the pink castle.
If it's ok I'll send you a friend request on Facebook from the HG site and if you need anything let me know by pm or here.
Enjoy your lovely babyxxxx

Oh wonderful news hb :) :) Congratulations!!! Sorry hospital are being a PITA. Are you at the new maternity unit at Pboro? I think if it was me, and this is coming from a hospital hater, I think I'd be inclined to stay at least another day. You did lose alot of blood and as fluffy said in a couple of days you may well crash. Your iron levels will be low. But congratulations nevertheless :) :) Enjoy feeding your face and brushing those teeth

Oh me oh my... elliotts you're up next, then it's me....

Hi ladies, I'm sorry to intrude on your conversation. Congratulations on all the new and soon to be born babies.
I'm due in February and have just been diagnosed HG. I'm 12 weeks today and to add to feeling like hell on earth all day, I feel so alone. Everyone keeps saying 'it'll pass, it's just morning sickness' and dismissing it. The only person who understands is my DP who is having to put up with me demanding all kinds of ridiculous food concoctions that take hours to make, taking one look at it and spending the rest of the night vomiting. I haven't eaten properly in weeks and I'm terrified about what my body is doing to my baby. So far my GP has given me buccastem but that just seems to have made things worse. As each week goes by I'm getting worse and I just don't know how much more of this I can take. I haven't got up again today, I'm just lying in bed alternating between sleeping, vomiting & crying.
I know none of you can change this, I just wanted to get it off my chest.
Thanks x

Welcome mummymccar, don't feel you are intruding. This is just the place for you to vent, we all know how you are feeling.
Go back to the GP and ask for something else. There are other options available. Take someone, preferably dp with you for moral support as it's difficult to be assertive when you're so low.
Have a look at some of the websites that are available and the link on here that MOH posted yesterday.
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/home

www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/002.asp

There is also a Facebook group under hyperemesis gravidarum.

If it 's any consolation your baby is stealing all your nutrients and is pretty much ok.
Sometimes lying in bed is all that you can do :(
Feel free to come and chat whenever you feel up to it.

Hi everyone
Just to let you all know that baby ARCHIE JOHN DURHAM was born at 10:38pm Monday Aug 8th. 8lbs 9ounces (big lad like his dad!). He is beautiful and we are very proud, still cant believe it! we went in early afternoon with Luce having had contractions through the night on the sunday. At about 7pm Luce was 3 cms dilated, they broke her waters and she was suddenly at 7cms! water, fluid, etc everywhere. They thought birth would be soon but then baby's heart rate dropped down to 50-60 beats so they then wanted to do a c-section and rush her into theatre. However, as luce was on gas and air and every other thing known to man, she kept pushing hard and was fully dilated before they could get her into theatre. Luce was in agony by this point so I became one of the helping hands too. Encouraging her to push more we managed to get to the point where, following the anaesthetist's injection into the back (epidural), baby's head could be seen slighlty. They then started talking about forceps but Luce wasnt going for this so pushed harder. Bringing a suction cup in they attached to baby's head and pulled gently until the best moment in our lives happened and baby Archie was out. However he had the cord around his neck but luckily it was loose enough to pull away. I took hold of baby after managing to cut the cord too but then the placenta was struggling to come out (by this time Luce had also had an episiotomy!). Luckily it did eventually and voila...

He is awesome and everyone says he is gorgeous. We love him like crazy and just wanted you to know and to say a huge thank you for all your support and to prove that although hyperemesis is, as we all know,something that requires 100% care and attention it by no means stops you from having a BEAUTIFUL baby like us and yes, we do feel very fortunate also. x Thank you once again from Johnny, Luce and baby Archie 'AJ' xxxx

Congrats Johnnyd and theonlyhb2 on your new arrivals :)

on another train of thought, (i have posted this in antenatal group as well) but when I went for my scan yesterday (13weeks now) I was asked about joining a healthy eating group/slimming world as I am classed as overweight
I am a bit overweight but very active (swimming waterbabies teacher, dog walker, running round with 3yr old) and a size 16
they are doing a study/research into healthy eating so want pregnant women to attend these slimming world classes, its free cos its part of a research programme so I thought why not? (its only free whilst pregnant)

then I have been thinking about it, no-one asked me about diet at present, I have lost a stone am on stemetil three times a day, and hell if i feel like eating half a teacake with dare i say butter on it then thats what i have been doing.....now if i remember rightly having done slimming world before (and i do like it) you are restricted in milk allowance, and fruit smoothies are syns, yet i had a leaflet the other day saying pregnant women try smoothies to get your five a day in when feeling sick?
no-one asked about current health, or hyperemesis, or medications, i will wait for the woman to do my assessment and ask her all these questions in few weeks, but what do others think?
i am 13 weeks today, so far have managed a glass of water today, and half a teacake, not even had a wee, the good that two weeks off work did for me is certainly wearing off :(

Hurrah Johnny and Luce, also I was starting to think everyone was only having girl babies!
Lilyrose I really wouldn't bother with the slimming world thing as it's very unlikely that you're going to be able to stomach all the " healthy" foods and quite frankly the last thing you need is to be made to feel bad with your food choices, such choice as you have. I'm overweight and lost over a stone with each pregnancy ( which I managed to put on again thanks to copious amounts of cake :)) if you feel that you do need to diet wait until after the baby. It's all very well them doing things like this but each case needs to be looked at individually and it was remiss of whoever asked you not to have looked into your file/history.

Huge congratulations the only and johnny&luce - sorry to hear about difficult births, it should really be a given after HG!! And more lovely names :) theonly I second what people are saying bout staying in hospital after losing all that blood - as mind-numbing as they can be, it's really the best place for you to be xx

mummymccar please dont feel you are interupting, u are very welcome to pull up a comfy chair and join us! What you are experiencing is normal HG - take each day as it comes and stay in bed if you need to - don't feel guilty about neglecting housework etc. Just forget it and rest. Different medicines are better for different people - I swear by Buccastem but if it's not for you you need to get onto your Gp and ask for something else - there's lots to try to find something that helps you. Take care and drop in anytime for a chat, advice or just a good ole moan!!! Xx

coconuts very true - it's me and you at the top!!! And I STILL haven't packed my bag! But making a list counts right....?!? :)

yea!! now I can be excited and tell you all how beautiful Archie is!!!!
my poor Luce has had a really rough time but she is recovering well at home. fortunately we do not live too far away so we can see them all regulally, and Johnny is really as lovely as he sounds he has supported her wonderfully through everything we are so lucky to have him in our family!! congratulations to HB too as she is the last one who was on this site when we joined to have her baby. Sorry they are giving you a lot of stress in hospital it is the last thing you need.Please can I come for that cream tea in the pink castle now lucinda?

Sorry grandmagain I forgot to say congratulations to you too!!! :)

Congrats to johnny luce and grandmaagain

And do you know what... I have been on this thread for god knows how long and I never knew that grandmaagain was grandma to johnny and luce baby. How thick am I!? How the hell did I miss that!

Congratulations, Luce Johnny and Grandma! Wonderful, but I am sorry Luce had a hard time, that's not fair. By all means Grandma come into the pink castle.
TheONly Wonderful, congratulatins too, oh dear, blood loss, I lost just under two pints, so no transfusion, you will be weak even after one, take care of yourself but Iam so glad you and Luce are at the end of the Hyperremesis Hell.
Mummymccar Welcome.
PC playng up, back in a second...
LucindaE
xx

Nemo The Pink Castle is so called because we thought that suffering Hyperemesis and discussing it on the thread was like a horrid board game - ie, ate - move forward one space, puking in carrier bag at sight of certain foods in shop, back three spaces, Morning Bile Run returns, back two...If you see what I mean. As a kid my family had a Snakes and Ladders game with a lovely pink castle in the clouds illustrated at the end, hence the virtual Pink Castle came into being, and now has a virtual rest room (served by genie) a drawbridge, you name it...
Back again in a minute!

LucindaE
xx

Hello everyone!

Congratulations on all the new babies, such exciting, lovely news! Pink champagne in the pink castle to celebrate!!!

Sorry I haven't posted for ages had a rough couple of weeks with my sickness and a wisdom tooth infection and then went back to work with a boss who blanked me! The director has agreed it's not the right environment for me to be in while he is investigating my boss for bullying and harassment so I've been sent home paid from today until they find me a suitable alternative job, which may actually result in promotion! Not really bothered about the job, just want the horrible horrible man to be sacked now so he can't treat anyone else this way!

Welcome to all the new people, hope the sickness isn't too bad!

Third time, lucky? Mummymccar What do you mean, intruding, this thread if for you as a current Hyperemesis sufferer! It doesn't sound like your meds are working too well, poor you, do you think you could phone up and tell them or drag yourself their with someone to speak up for you if you feel too bad? You could be in danger of dehydration being sick all the time - can you keep enough fluids down? Have you got kesosticks to make sure? It will almost certainly get better as time goes on - almost everyone does improve even if they have it throughout it improves - but that's not a lot of comfort at this stage. My usual questions about ice cubes, ice lollies, jelly, sips of coke left to go flat? Are they of any use?
TheOnly Cyber hugs of contratulations to you, and to Luce and Johnny again. Really happy for you. Grandma Here's the cream tea!

Love to Fluffy Cocounuts Pearl and Everyone rudely ignored.
Wretched pc, playing up...
LucindaE
xx

You are not thickcoconuts I have tried not to let on too much as it has felt a bit like prying being on the same site as them,however I have found it such a comfort. HG was a complete unknown to me until MY DD was so ill at christmas( and up until at least april.) So I wanted to learn as much as I could in order to try and help her moh"s wonderfully informative site did not exist then and I found the american ones quite scary. All of you are real people and your experiences are the best way anyone can learn because the conversations can be two way and you are all so wonderfully supportive to each other.Hearing all the positive things is uplifting when you are feeling down and I am not too proud to say I was scared to see her so ill. But lucinda was right "this too will pass" and it has!! Archie is the most beautiful baby boy in the whole world (but then I would say that would"nt I)!
may I pop back again round about your due time coconuts ? I have felt particulally for you since your really bad day of what seems like ages ago now! best wishes to all now on the site hoping you all start to feel a lot better soon. I am on gransnet so if any of your mums feel like they want a chat come and look for me and I will lok out for them. Thank you again for all your support to me and Luce and johnny it really has meant so very much more than you will all ever know. tears now so I must leave before I embaress myself even more

Ah grandma course you can :) How sweet of you :) And bless your heart, it must be so hard to sit by and watch someone being so ill and not being able to do much to make them feel better.

thank you coconuts
and thank you lucinda cream tea was lovely!!
off now to look at more baby pics

Johnny, luce, grandmaagain, theonly congratulations on the new babies! It's such a relief when it's all over and you can meet your new baby and make up for all the lack of eating...

theonly I hate hospitals so really sympathise with you. I would probably want to check myself out too but you're perhaps best there for a bit longer after the transfusions and things. Sorry you're being hassled about feeding charts, there is nothing more annoying. Why aren't they asking about nappies. If something's coming out of the bottom end then it's obvious it's going into the top.

Johnny sounds like Luce did really well in a stressful situation. Cord around neck, reduced heartbeat and talk of forceps happened to me too, it's surprising how much energy you can suddenly find to try and beat the doctors!

Lucinda yes I've been hanging around here for ages! Three months left, can't wait. I'm not being sick but STILL have the morning nausea. I'm not complaining, it's nothing like HG. And also I'm covered in eczema which isn't good but I'd rather have that than constant vomiting.

Sorry to everyone still suffering. The clock is ticking though and you'll gradually move up the list!

Ahh Grandma, you're making me well up a little, you are right though, this thread is bloomin marvellous, such a support to talk to others in the same situation.

babycarmen this may be a bit late as I don't get on here very often, but you could try combining the cyclizine with vitamin B6. It really cut the zombie/dizzy feeling for me. It's recommended on the 'HelpHER' website, you take one B6 with each cyclizine. Perhaps you're doing okay with the buccastem, I hope so.

mummycar sorry you're feeling rubbish. I'm glad your DP is being helpful though. Try to get back to the doctors, even the out of hours one. There are lots of other things to try. Buccastem didn't work for me by cyclizine did and there are a few others too. Maybe your DP could take you along, I know how hard it is to get out of bed, never mind the house.