New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

Thanks for all the nice messages everyone.

I joined you on the bile run this morning. I'd forgotten how horrible it is. It was really concentrated (sorry) and took ages to come out, my stomach muscles are worn out.

I just don't feel like drinking or eating anything today, still have the 24 hour nausea. Have managed a bit of diluted apple juice and lemon jelly but I'm going to have to try harder to get things down me.

Hi all,

Everyone sounds very upbeat despite the revolting nausea and vom - must be the lovely weather and the fact that we can vent on here every day! It really makes a difference to your state of mind I think.

Marylou sorry the vom has commenced at last. Not surprised you have so little appetite with being under such stress. Would a couple of nibbles of plain crisps suit today? Grapefruit?
Lucinda winter weather has done for my mint so need to get planting or go back to that restaurant!
Theonly glad the vom is kindly restricting itself to pre-9am! Good luck with scan on Mon and try not to worry.
Wizz hope all OK and spotting settling down again?
Diege don't give up on meds if cyclizine wears off. Get some of that Ondansetron stuff that Caramel swears by. Sounds like the real deal and, as people on here have said, cheaper for you to have these for 9 months max and not be hospitalised than non-pregnant people who are on loads of different meds for years.
Mummyabroad the comment that always gets me is when non HG people say "ahh well it'll be worth it in the end". I just feel it negates what you're going through. I've also had the "oh you're very small for 23 weeks" this week - so next week someone will probably say "ooooh you're HUUUUGE" for 24 weeks. Personally I can't remember what I was like at that stage last time, so goodness knows how anyone else can remember enough to make authoritative comparisons!

Stomach has calmed down again last couple of days - no vom and only a litle nausea - hopefully it is on its way out and not going to grumble on (sorry grumblin !) until the bitter end. Have spent a couple of hours cleaning nursery after DS's move to his new room, and putting his old neutral baby clothes into the drawers ready for use.

Hi everyone, been having a fabulous day today. Had a big lay in, cyclizine working a treat today and have cleaned my flat front to back, top to bottom. It was filthy after I have neglected it for so long. DH has been helping but it's never up to my standards bless him. I had some sardines on toast with DD for lunch. She loved it and it went down nicely for me. Starting to feel a little nauseous now, almost due for another tablet, and have a feeling I have overdone it and may well have an awful day tomorrow but at least I've got on top of things and can leave it for a while if I have a setback, it won't matter :)

I also am with you all on the know it all busybodies. "have you tried ginger biscuits? My 24th cousin removed swore by them" ARGH shut up!!!

Hi all - spotting all stoppped and still puking so thats a good sign - phew! Got a scan tomorrow to double check everything!

Feel like the cyclizine is having to work harder the further this pregancy goes on. Though think maybe I have done what coconuts has done and done too much today but the dog hair was getting thick on the floor! Have managed to drive today and feel less spaced out even if only for long enough to get DS1 to nursery!

I'm eating quite abit as its seems to be the only thing that keeps the nausea under control but thats not working this afternoon!

Totally understand the 'have you tried' stuff . The next person that mentions ginger (GAGS and REACHES) biscuits will probably get the full level of my pregnancy hormones! as will the next person that mentions the words getting a bit of morning sickness!

I'm struggling with finding things I can drink though as most things other than lemonade set me off.

Cant concentrate on screen to remember everyone so sends you lovely wishes and hopes for a puke free day! x

Funny how so many of us are loving the lemonade right now :)

hi ladies.

I have had a worrying morning of bleeding, I have Ashermans Syndrome so I know that this can happened without it always spelling doom and gloom but I cant help worrying that its the drugs and not the AS so I am going to get a scan today to put my mind at rest.

littlewhizz glad your bleeding has stopped, not so glad that you are still puking but I can see where the good news is there! Hope your scan tommorrow goes well.

hi coconuts I am feeling very jealous of your energy burst. Glad you have had a good day though, now go and put your feet up!

hmmm lemonade (I'm craving it now) burping feels really good

I managed to stick the slow cooker on in the garage yesterday (so I didnt have to smell it) and am now sipping yummy vegetable broth. How does everyone else manage to cook? I cant stand the smell of anything cooking even if its something I can actually eat.

Mummy. shamedly, I have hardly cooked anything. Most meals are from the freezer or tins. On days DH is home then he will cook a proper meal (thank god he can cook) but it is definitely something that has slipped alot. I just cannot stand the smell of preparing food

How long until your scan? I hope things are ok. How many weeks are you?

marylou Really sorry to hear about your loss and the fact that you had to struggle to hide the n&V. How are you and your family holding up? The week between the funeral is a very busy week so the grief may well hit you full on afterwards. Take care of yourself. I hope you are ok and I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this and your HG.

Everyone else hope you are all ok. The mention of lemonade has made me feel sick so I'll have to get off the thread now. It reminds me too much of the early days!

Grumblin x

coconuts I am 7+5, going for a scan at 4pm (10pm your time, I think) We saw the heartbeat just last week, so I am expecting to hear it again to know all is well.

I'll be thinking of you at 10pm :) If I'm still awake

Mummy I didn't cook from 6 weeks to about 19 weeks - DH did it all. He is husband of the century, bless him. I literally couldnt even open a tin without puking and couldnt talk about what cooked food I might want to eat without puking too. I also didn't eat with other people as I felt this helped. Gawd - so glad I am through that awful bit now.

What does Asherman's syndrome involve? Never heard of it before. Hope bleeding stops soon.

Mummy good luck with the scan. Slow cooker in the garage sounds a good idea, might have to try that. I can't even stand the smell of raw food though so that may be a problem...

Coconuts and nitnat I will keep my fingers crossed that you've taken a turn for the better and will continue to feel okay.

I've felt sick all day long again. I've managed a few crisps, diluted lemonade and somehow forced down a fishfinger sandwich, although had to leave the kitchen when they were in the oven. I don't think I've got proper HG yet. I'm not sure what the definition is, but last time I was throwing up 12 times a day. I just so hope it's not going to worsen to that state, I can do without having to run out of a funeral to throw up. Then again, I can't really eat much so I'm going to lose weight even without throwing up. I think if I went into the toilet when the nausea is bad, I would be sick. I'm just trying to avoid going in there. Too many bad memories from last time, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be able to put it off for.

Talking of annoying comments, has anybody had one along the lines of "I was never sick when I was pregnant". What exactly is the purpose of telling you that? I had this comment a couple of times last time I was pregnant. I'm trying to think of a suitable response in case anyone says it to me this time!

marylou I think the response to the statement 'I was never sick in my pregnancy' should be a polite smile and 'You're really lucky, I don't think you can ever understand unless you've been through it yourself'. Usually stops people in their tracks.

Hope the scans went well yesterday.

I spent a lot of time in the garden while DH did all the cooking and food prep before it was safe to return. An openplan kitchen/lounge is not a good mix with HG. This pregnancy the fridge is concealed below the bench so at least the sight of it didn't trigger vomitting as it did with my first pregnancy. Bleurgh, those were the worst days though.

Have to say, sorry, but the thought of fish finger sandwiches is turning my stomach. Here this week the caramello household is all about homemade tzatziki with loads of fresh mint.

MummyAbroad Best of luck with scan. Sorry about bleeding, how alarming - I must admit to ignorance about Asherman's Syndrome too.
MaryLou Probably a good idea to avoid the loo. I think it is so hard to TALK with Hyperemesis, because it involves opening the throat, and that might set off puking, and when people are mourning often that is what they want to do more than anything, and it must be very difficult, poor you. Really feeling for you.
NitNat I was puzzled as to how you got mint from a garden - mine wouldn't be up so soon in mid Wales, and I think you live in Yorskhire? I think mine has been killed of by the winter too. So it was form a cafe - but how did they get it, I wonder? As I said somewhere earlier, I read it was an eighteenth century remedy for NVP.
Grumblin Sorry you had to leave hurriedly - how are things generally? I hope the puking is at least not frequent.
Caramel How bad is it with you? Fate really should give some sort of reward for those who suffer all the way through. An unexpected Lottery win, say, of £20,000...Someone once to me 'None of at my clinic us were actually sick' rather as though those who are are being slatternly/not trying. Steam from ears...Your reply is excellent. I don't understand why people are so judgemental about it, but for sure many are.
Whizz how are things? So glad spotting stopped.
Cake Ski Luce LA Elliot'sMummy and all, have as good a day as you can.

LucindaE
xx

Cocoanuts forgot to say, delighted you had such a good day! I do hope it's lifting...
LucindaE
xx

mummy hoping the scan went well for you.

lucinda I'm not sure it's lifting, I still cannot survive without my cyclizine but am definitely eating better, almost normally dare I say it, but still find it hard to get fluids in me. Can't drink plain water at all and still surviving on lemonade but it's better than nothing.

I definitely did too much yesterday and felt shocking around 5pm, struggled to do dinner but got through it in the end.

marylou I also find that when I'm nauseous even going near the bathroom triggers it off. I can't take DD to the toilet as it makes me retch so have had to teach her to do it herself. I avoid the bathroom at all costs.

Feeling ok this morning have just piled down a punnet of raspberries and some citrus Oasis. Going to enjoy a couple of hours peace while DD is at playschool :)

i cannot eat enough crumpets with jam. i don't normally eat jam but I am so mad for fruit oh and the smell of crumpets is amazing!

I have had more non-sick days than sick days this week (4-3 but still :P) and this morning didn't even think about the horror of brushing my teeth.....til 10 seconds in (without even gagging) my stomach emptied. I sacked off the dentist yesterday too, I hadn't been sick and I didn't want to chance it with a filling (plus, I couldn't be bothered to get out of bed, into the shower, dress and drive there. Not sure 30yr old women should spend their days off playing online Call of Duty but there you go.......)

Carramello - I now have a craving for tzatziki......would it go on crumpets I wonder.......

hb I now fancy crumpets

Morning, hope everyone is having a vom-free day so far!

The bathroom is definitely a trigger for me - always starts off the retching :( on the plus side my sickness seems to have stabalised with my latest combination of meds so that on a good day I'm not being sick at all and only a couple times on a bad day! It's done nothing to combat the nausea though, guess I'm stuck with that!

Had my first scan on Tuesday and everythings fine in there thank goodness! The scan measurements put me a week later than originally thought (now 13wks instead of 12) and first thing I thought of was yippee - one less week of HG!! :)

I too am having trouble with fluids - lemonade is nice but seems to give me acid so am mostly having cold water from fridge with a splash of squash in it - water on it's own is unbearable to me! Might have to send OH out for crumpets - so bored of toast!!!

The lottery win sounds a great idea - sending lucky vibes to all! :)

Hi everyone.

Scan was great yesterday - there was an obligatory agonising five minute wait while he fiddled around before he put the sound of the heartbeat on, and then I realised I had been holding my breath till I heard it! I'm SO glad everything is OK. Not feeling bad at all about taking the meds now and the even seem to be "working" better - I am sure this is just pyscological!

hb Jealous! I cant buy crumpets out here in Costa Rica, but have learned how to make them. Not sure I cant stand the smell of cooking long enough to still want to eat them afterwards though.

ElliotsMummy Glad you had a great scan too - I hope 13 weeks is corning turning time in terms of HG. I drink a lot of coconut water - its interesting enough to not be pure water (I'm with you there, just reminds me of being sick) but bland enought to not have much taste. Its also a natural rehydration drink.

nitnat Lucinda Ashermans is a very rare (or underdiagnosed?) condition, plenty of doctors know nothing about it too. Basically it is scar tissue forming in your utuers or cervix after surgery of some sort. I got mine after an ERPC for retained placenta after birth of DS, and then later had another ERPC for missed miscarriage. After the second ERPC I stopped having periods (blood trapped inside by the scar tissue) for 8 months and then had corrective surgery to fix it. I am likely to bleed more in pregnancy and need a few extra scans at certain points, but otherwise the outcome has been pretty bloody amazing considering the odds I got from some doctors 8 months ago.

Stay away from bathrooms ladies (especially if they are as minging as mine! ) and have a lovely day!

So pleased Mummy :) :)

Hello everyone,

This thread is such a crutch for me.

marylou I'm sorry to hear about your family bereavement. Feeling crap on top of feeling unhappy can't be good. How far along are you now?

mummy I'm really happy to hear about your scan. I hope too its a turning point for the HG, I love hearing about women starting to have more good days and bad days (hb I'm hoping your trend continues).

I have started the homeopathy, if it doesn't take enough of the edge of I'm off to the GP's. I am struggling day by day, I'm only 7 weeks so I know it's going to continue to get worse for a few weeks. I feel so useless and feeding the 2dc's is a nightmare, the evening meal in particular, dh is doing it tonight.

The worst thing is, like another poster said, I don't think I even have proper HG yet, I am actually throwing up less than 3 times a day on average and if I work really hard and lie down I can reduce it to 1 or 2 times. I can also keep down water if I sip it slowly.

Must think positive.

love to everyone on the thread

hb crumpets, well toasted, with honey and butter are my carb of choice in the morning and have been for about 10 days now. yum. hadn't thought of combining them with the tzatziki...think you'd have to wait for them to go cold or the yoghurt would just melt straight through

Cake I think we're both in a similar position. I'm 7 weeks in as well and waiting for the worst to come whilst hoping it's not going to. I've only thrown up twice today but the 24 hour nausea means I can't eat much. At the moment I feel like I'm seasick and stuck on a boat months away from land, but heading for worse weather...

I've been back to work today and struggled to be honest. Felt sick all day long and had to hide my peculiar food choices from everyone else. Think I may have to pay a visit to the doctors next week if this continues. I just want to stop feeling sick please. I can cope with the odd bit of sick but not 24 hours a day nausea.

I'm very tempted by crumpets now, may have to send DH on a trip to the shop so I've got one for breakfast. I love getting food tips from here, it's nice to have a change from crisps.

Fingers crossed for no bile experiences for us tomorrow morning.

I love the crumpet fad :) Although why do they take SO long to toast?! OH never does them enough for me, not that I am fussy, but they have to be proper hard and crispy on the bottom, loads of butter (which makes it soft again) and then marmite (this mornings breakfast) or jam......I got some raspberry & pomegranate jam, cant wait to try it (ha ha ha what a saddo!)

Mummy I am glad I am not the only one with a manky bathroom. I actually think there is something growing in the sink. I could of cleaned it at the weekend but instead used the other bathroom.......so glad we have 2 lol

I am getting a cold/sore throat. i think thats why I keep throwing up randomly, no gagging, cos I just have so much gunk being produced (lovely I know).

I took an Phernagan last night for the first time in weeks in the hope it would help me sleep better (as its used as a mild sedative too!)......I woke at 5am instead of 2/3am so that along with the sunshine is making me happy.

I guess I best do some work now........hope you are all having a good day xxx

(ps. caramello....let me know how the tzatiki on the crumpets go)