New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

Hb - they do seem to take an age to go crunchy, I have to put them on at least two toasting cycles to ensure ultimate crispness

DD has a cold so I guess I will get it soon. Had a bad night last night, felt really nauseous light headed and tired, sent myself to bed at 8:30 and feel sick today. So far I've only had a lolly and I'm struggling to keep that in. I know I need to eat I just can't :(

Wish I felt better, would love to be out enjoying the sunshine while its here.

Hope everyone has a nice Friday xx

Good morning all on this lovely sunny day.... had my scan yesterday and all fine so big relief all round, went to look at car seats for my DS1 who now needs a group 3, he has been rear facing right up untill now www.rearfacing.co.uk so will be weird turning him around! So by the time I had been to hosipital and done a bit of shopping on top of other motherly duties I felt sick all afternoon had a couple of bile runs and couldnt stay awake past 8pm.

Had minor niggle with OH who wouldnt let me buy a whole load of posh readymeals that were a bit ££ from the local farm shop. I cant face cooking - he just kept saying you could make them for 1/4 that price - yes I could if I didnt keep puking or you could make it for me. He cant cook to save his life and when he does it always takes hours by which time the oppurtunity has passed and i'm puking. I dont want to eat at 9pm and when I can eat I just want to eat not prepare it or I wont eat it. I love to cook normally and i'm quite adventurous so I hate buying ££ ready meals, but quite frankly I couldnt give a flying monkeys!! So went to M&S and spent a fortune onhis his credit card without him to get my own back- felt much better!

I too have a crumpet thing going on... with Great Aunty Annes homemade blackcurrant jam!

Hope all well and looking forward to the weekend and if you see any little fairies out cleaning bathrooms be sure to send one my way!!
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Whizz and MummyAbroad ElliottsMummy delighted about the scans! Cake I hope the homeopathy starts working before you have to go to dr's. Whizz I don't think OH is being fair expecting you to cook, it is so disgusting when suffering...No wonder cooking fish sent Grumblin to the kitchen sink...Re; food suggestions, I loved soda bread, but many find it too dense if it reappears.MaryLou When did it truly hit last time? The suspense must be awful, besides the misery of bereavment. Do feel for you. Cake I do hope it stays away,glad that it is 'only' twice or so with management, but that is horrible enough... Caramel NitNat Grumblin LA Luce ElliotsMummy Ski I hope you are not too bad today?Cocoanuts I do hope you avoid the cold. What do you think of Lucozade? I was addicted to it, but many find it too acid. I used to drink Ironbru, too, and some fizzy lime drink whose name I've forgotten. Someone else back on the old thread swore by fresh limes, even went round with one held to the nose... TheOnly How are you now?
LucindaE
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I'm not too keen on Lucozade lucinda I do find it a bit to acidic although the orange flavour is quite refreshing. I love to eat fresh lemons and limes when I'm not pregnant but haven't had any for a while. i'm a bit of a freak like that. I can just buy a lemon, peel it or wedge it and eat it like an orange :)

my friend bought me a packet of crumpets earlier and i ate a whole pack of 8, and then subsequently forgot to take my afternoon cyclizine....

Only on this thread would someone feel that they weren't "that" ill because they're "only" throwing up 3 times a day :(
MaryLou so sorry to hear of your loss, hopefully it won't make your sickness worse, take things as easy as you can.
I was thinking of you all today when I bought some posh M&S biscuits, chocolate with ... ginger :)
Did have to ponder for a moment as it brings back memories of wanting to punch well meaning people but I do love a posh choc and ginger biscuit.
Littlewizz if your OH isn't going to cook then he can put up with ready meals for a few months. I didn't cook for ages and OH lived off frozen pizzas or went to his Mum's for feeding.
When I was up to eating again had lots of cold food or oven chips and stuff that could just be shoved in the oven and left.
Also could stomach Sunday roast type meals but would go to my Mum's or Mils as didn't have the inclination to cook.
You just have to do what it takes to get through it.
Good to hear scans are going well for people and some of you seem to be turning the corner.

Funny - I had a week on crumpets at about your stages girls! Had to be toasted to within an inch of their lives (-v difficult to train DH to do this) and then covered in butter and honey. Never managed 8 at one sitting - well done Coconuts!

Grumblin I am with you on the fishfingers. The smell of them and oven chips cooking will haunt me for a long time! Used to be my fave "easy" tea as well!

Nitnat - it was two sittings of four, even I'm not that good! Definitely toasted til blackened with loads of butter. I tried one with jam and wasn't that keen.

I made homemade potato wedges tonight and dunked mine in a massive blob of salad cream. Heaven :)

I have a wisdom tooth on the move as well just to add to my list of things to make me feel crap.

Sorry you're having a bad day coconuts, hope tomorrow's a bit better

Littlewizz, don't blame you for spending on the credit card. You shouldn't have to cook in this state. Maybe when he gets the bill he will get the message.

Been sick twice today and a couple of retching sessions. Think I am worsening. I seem to remember the worst point last time was about 9 or 10 weeks in. Am really struggling with smells now. DS's sandwich on brown bread set me off today, the bread smelt absolutely disgusting. And I could smell his nappy for hours afterwards even with windows and doors open.

Food of the day for me is cold, red grapes out of the fridge.

Need to go and force down some liquid now. There may have to be a visit to the doctor's next week for some different drugs. I've also got my first midwife appointment, hope she's a bit more sympathetic than the one I had last time.

Sorry not keeping up. Work, eat, sleep these days and any spare energy soon eaten by my adorable but v active DD.

Hosted birthday party for DD and her friend today. Up at 6am making buttercream icing (sorry for those in early stages when food mention sends u running for bathroom!) - great day for 8 LOs and I felt pretty good all day but I'm now exhausted and funnily enough just had a bit of vom! Tiredness and experiment with coke not good idea :(

Glad scans going well but so sorry pesky food smells and strong nausea ruling the day for many of you - but hope forum is some comfort! Not fond memories and have to agree with Nitnat & Grumblin - smell of DDs fish fingers has me running outside and lighting scented (subtle - natch) candles!

Hope all have restful and not to icky weekend. I'm off for a holiday in Peak District and lookjng forward to rest and fresh air (or indoor pool and a comfy cottage if rains!)

Chin up (quite literally so not staring down bog) and as our morale boosting sponsor Lucinda reminds us, these things will pass :)

La congratulations on birthday party for eight, and doing a home made cake when convalescent from Hyperemesis (I hope it doesn't dare rear it's head again). Sorry coke not a happy experience, was part of my staple diet, frozen in cubes too...Ironic that 'This Too Shall Pass' was advice from a man to a man in some Eastern story about a wise man's response to a king who asked for a phrase that was equally appropriate as a morale booster in the saddest of times, or as a warning not to be to complacent in the happiest...
Agree about smell of fish fingers when suffering .
Grumblin hope you aren't feeling too bad? NitNat are things stable? Caramel is on the home stretch, though I think she must bounce on her exercise ball to the finishing line, rather than run...lol.
MaryLou poor you, good luck with the midwife, sorry the other was insenstitive, perhaps some new meds are indicated. So agree with Fluffy that only on this thread would anyone talk of 'only' being sick two or three times a day...Fluffy here's a cushion by the log fire for being such an encouragement to all...Cocoanuts A shame Lucozade isn't for you. Milkshakes? Luce was living on them at one time. Whizz I think you are being too stoic, if OH thinks you are up to cooking!
Everyone suffering from smells, do sympathise. Nappies? Oh, dear, it must be awful dealing with those. As it was I went about the house holding a lavender sachet to my nose...
The Only I hope work are behaving, and Grumblin too? NitNat so glad you don't have to worry about that. MaryLou Cocoanuts and all having to brave working, let alone commuting, at least a break from that over the weekend, hopefully.
Everyone There will be a run on crumpets! Potato wedges, why did I never think of them, potato based and salty, too? Have as good a weekend as you can.

LucindaE
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Good evening ladies... hope the sunshine has made it slightly more bearable.. been stealing DS1 smiley faces today yum... and a couple of crumpets and a bit of quiche. So tablets are working just a good many waves of nausea floating through the day. Still struggling with drinking as gone off lemonade, can just about bear some hot ribena but feeling that not drinking enough esp as meds make my mouth furry. Only 8 weeks today so expecting next week to be tough. Have made a sausage caserole for dinner at lunch time and put it in slow cooker. Dont really want it now though but might have the garlic bread! Going to mums for roast lamb tomorrow i'll be happy with just the roast potaotes! Sorry to much talk of food, my stomach is rumbling starving just dont fancy anything.

Went to get some maternity bras as ones from this point last time too tight, and the smell in the shop - urgh.... only managed to buy one but the ladies in there know me so understood.

My only fear with this pregnancy is that I dont put on as much weight because had HG to 20weeks last time and then when I could actually eat again, boy did I enjoy it got carried away and put on 4stone!! and cause of horrific SPD did no exercise either! had terrible cravings for fridgi choc milkshakes last time... 500kal per bottle!!

Right rubbish telly tonight OH will prob want to watch Quantum of Solace so Early night for me. Bless him apart from the cooking bit he's been fab, lets me stay in bed and gets DS1 up and breakfast then brings me some crumpets and jam and tea plus he's been putting raised beds in the garden walking the dog and keeping DS1 occupied as much as possible when he's here. So bless him but boy they do think they deserve a medal!!

Hi all

Caramel any reprieve in these last weeks? Glad you're on home stretch.
Grumblin how have you been this weekend? Hope puking under control?
Lucinda couple of surprise vomits unfortunately. Had tiring couple of days. Friday took DS to GP in morning and had to wait an hour to be seen - cue upset child as he had missed playtime! Then he fell off climing frame at after school club - banged nose, loads of blood and we decided to take him to A&E after tea to get nose checked out as was wonky. Cue a further 1 hr 40 wait (all fine). Yesterday bile run to start day, then took DS to his swimming lesson and decided to get in the nice warm kids pool and float around while I waited. Pool was freezing! Had to keep swimming round to keep warm. Think this was too much exertion as came home and threw up nice lunch (so dissapointing when you can at last eat and enjoy stuff but then still chuck it up!) Am constantly surprised at how much I am NOT capable of!

Back to retching today and sun is shining, so thankful for that!

Hi All
Seeing this thread is like someone else reading my thoughts and feelings and putting them down on line. I didnt realise so many others were feeling as dreadfull as I've been it is so nice to see its not in my head and others have this horrible existance in pregnancy too.
I'm on my 4th pregnancy, have 2 children. I lost my first at 17 weeks, stopped being sick about 3 weeks after. I was sick with DD (age 3) til 22 weeks, and DS (age 1) at 23 weeks, and am now in week 11 of hell... I mean pregnancy. I was admitted to hospital last week for dehydration and given lots of fluids and ALOT of cyclizine. I've been on them at home since 6 weeks but they make me very drousy and i have to drive DD to preschool 4 x a week (15 miles each way) not to mention actually having to care for the children so being asleep isnt too good! Since I was 5 wks when i started vomitting (i was nauseous from wk3) ive lost a stone - i was only 9st3 to start i couldnt keep anything down, everything tastes foul, everything smells funny, and everything is too noisy or bright. since coming out of hospital I've kept up with the cyclizine - waking up early to take one, then tying one in with a nap/program they like watching and one when DH gets in I've found the cumulative affect has really helped me not be as sick. I still feel pretty rotten but as long as i get lots of rest in i've found ive actually been able to perform some things as normal.
If one more person asks if i've tried ginger i may well headbutt them/puke on their feet. I appreciate it helps some - and fab for them, but for me not only does it taste foul but it just makes my sick burn.
I'm mostly a happy, optomistic, person but this really tests my strength and resolve. I dont have any nearby family so dont have any local support - its really tough going, and we are DEFINITELY not having any more children!

Any how i hope oyu dont mind me sharing.
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Boosephena Welcome, lovely to meet you, this thread was designed with YOU as a current sufferer in mind. Sorry things have been so foul, you are one brave woman to go through it so often, I am glad that with routine they are looking up just a little. Do call in whenever you've a mind, there's no limit on moaning or TMI. So agree about ginger. I had a weird diet at my worst of coke and crisps, barley sugar sweets and fresh mint tea, Lucozade too, moving on to soda bread, iron bru and baked potatoes without butter (exciting) but everyone's so different about what they can endure.
NItNat Sorry about son's nose, bile runs and puking up nice dinner. I didn't swim, doctor forbade me because of miscarriage, though it seemed he wasn't bothered about dehydration (sneers bitterly face), so I don't know if a bump helps you float well?
Whizz I am glad O/H is good about everything but the ready meals...
Everyone take care of yourselves. Will the clocks going forward have an affect on everyone's symptoms?

LucindaE
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Just checking in - have found it difficult these past few days to even get on the computer as pretty much lacking in energy, so sorry for not keeping up!
Hi Boo; I also see this thread as somewhere where I know others really understand what I'm feeling and I def won't get offered ginger biscuits
Struggling through - actual vomiting is being controlled, bar the odd episode or 2, by the cyclizine, and have found out that GP has placed me on repeat without me even asking, which was a nice surprise! Evening is def my worst time, and will have to will myself through the ironing pile now (school uniforms only, everything else can stay creased!).
I have also been on the crumpets for a few weeks now - started with phildelphia on them, but have gone off and onto jam (after reading it on here!) Drink wise, plain water is a big trigger, so am managing on fizzy with grapefruit juice and watery hot chocolate.
Hope everyone is ok and hanging on in there x

This is the first time I've ever posted on a thread - I have found reading everyone's stories so supportive so wanted to add my own in case it can help anyone even just a little bit.
I had dreadful HG in my first pregnancy - at its peak between wk 7 and wk 26 - then subsided to only nausea and a few vomits a day up until the birth. The GPs / A&E and EPU were all very unhelpful - despite showing strong ketones throughout and literally keeping nothing down for weeks it took until wk 14 to get any cyclizine. Which of course I couldn't keep down anyway...
I went into my current pregnancy (now wk 12+5) far more adamant to fight for the care I now knew that I needed. I got referred to an obs at wk 5 and he immediately prescribed ondansetron (zofran). I was nervous about taking it before 12 wks (as had been told in my first pregnancy that it wasn't safe to take anything before wk 12) but he told me that this was untrue and based on an ignorancy about HG rather than any fact. Its an expensive drug though (I had to pay for my first prescription as he is a private obs and 4 days worth was £75!) - which may be another reason for NHS GPs not being keen to prescribe it. I've got all subsequent prescriptions from my NHS GP though as the obs wrote to him explaining the condition and advising him to keep prescribing Ondansetron, which thankfully he has now been happy to do.
For me one of the hardest parts of HG is the total lack of understanding and the refusal by some medical professionals to acknowledge it as the horrific condition it is; one which literally puts your life on hold - whilst people look at you and suggest you try 'ginger' - arrgghh!!
If you are suffering my only advice, so far (and I still have a long way to go in pregnancy number 2), is to try zofran if you can get hold of it, it won't necessarily work for everyone but I know it I'd had it the first time round it would have changed everything for me - and maybe I wouldn't have waited so long to do it again. I really wanted a 2nd but was almost too petrified of HG to do it.
Now almost 13 weeks in, I'm counting down the days - every day is a day closer to not having HG anymore!

LucindaE after my first 2 pregnancies I genuinely thought I had just been unlucky-none of my sisters or my mum had HG and I foolishly thought 'it can't happen to me again-that's not fair'! How wrong I was. Then I convinced myself I must be having all girls-as that's supposed to be worse, but then I had a boy and it was terrible. Anyhow we always wanted 3 but said no 3 would have to wait til I could afford a nanny/mothers help as I knew it would happen again, however we were given a lovely surprise a couple of months back and here I am! Timings wise it works out good, and I now know I don't EVER have to go through this again-we are taking permanent measures after this. I think if I had left it and planned as We did the others it would never have happened because I would have just been too scared.
My mil has said it's mind over matter... I suspect she's a bit of the Freud train of thought. I have pointed out that if I thought positivity would stop me bringing up my body contents for hours on end, and enable me to spend some quality time with my husband/dc's then I would indulge!
Anyhow like I said I'm so glad to have found this thread and normalised myself a bit-- Thankyou xx

Hello all,

Just popping by to ask how people found subsequent pregnacies after suffer hg in their first? I had a hideous time so can emphasise with you all.

My story is very similar: 5x hospital admissions in first trimester, tried 4 different tablets, the gummies, injections etc etc. Got myself stable enough to return to teaching then had my appendix out in an emergency surgery at 13 weeks. Which set me back as you can imagine. Liver/Kidneys etc started playing up and I developed Obstetric Cholestasis (sp). Was throwing up during my induction but delivered a little chubber at 9.1 despite me being so sick.

Thinking about ttc again but so scared about coping with it again. Does anyone have any experiences they wouldn't mind sharing? I was lucky in that I had a supportive GP and family who could take me to hospital and make sure DH was coping. This time round they'll be in Australia so will be unavailable!

Thanks for any replies. Sending huuuge foody wishes to you all (and permission to vom over anyone who suggests ginger bastard biccies or travel sickness bands!)

Hi girls x ladies x hope you are all okay x a positive here is that my luce went ten pin bowling last night after our 4 years TTC and with my luce's HG. She used the lightest ball but came second. I was so proud of her and she stayed til closing too. she loved the experience and it made her focus on something different for a bit. im not in any way trying to patronise any of you and understand that the HG will affect everyone differently but for those of you who may feel dwon then try bowling if you can. my luce is a rock and wont let this get to her. i love her so much and for the second time felt our son kick when placing my hand on her bump earlier. i hope all your partners feel the same. i place my hand on my luce's bump when i get to bed in the hope we can all bond together and he is going to be the most spoiled son ever! x i wish you all the best and altho im a man through my luce i can understand a little what youre going through x johnny

Johnny so glad Luce was able to get out enjoy feeling a bit of normality for a night. Does wonders for the soul! Lovely you are feeling kicks too now, I think it makes it that bit more real for men being able to feel their little bubba wriggling about.

weedle welcome. Not sure if you have time but there is a lot of advice on the previous thread, mainly given to marylou, on things you can do to prepare for HG when you're thinking about ttc again after HG. I think the main things though are to get a support system in place. SO have friends and family at the ready to help you as if you do get HG again you'll need help with your DC. Find a supportive GP before you TTC who you can work out a plan of attack with. Early intervention seems to help so if there is any medication that helped last time think about taking it from early on, maybe before the vomitting kicks in even. I found with me this was a massive help. Vitamin B6 helps some too. As does acupuncture. Obviously clear the cupboards of ginger

Welcome to Boosaphena and JJB too, sorry you had to join us but glad you've found us so you can join in the therapeutic moaning!

Diege hope this week is better for you.

nitnat ouch to the climbing frame fall. I'm not good with blood so sounds disastrous and A&E with HG - exhausting to say the least. Hope you are recovering from all that action and stress.

littlewhizz lets get some medals made for the DHs, or a plaque or something. Great idea!

La hope you had a lovely time away and it was a bit of a vacation from the HG too.

Marylou best of luck for the appts this week. Will be crossing fingers you stumble across some sympathetic health professionals!

Lucinda how are you? Did you get a pretend lie in this morning thanks to the clocks changing or is your DD school age? DS slept in, ah lovely!

37 weeks here, so baby is fully cooked! hooray! of course trying not to get too excited as could potentially still feel like this for another 5 weeks. perish the thought! no let up in symptoms really and yesterday had a run in with a dolmade that wasn't pleasant. Still, acupuncture tonight so that's good, always makes me feel better for a week or two.

Big non vom vibes to everyone I haven't mentioned too.

Hello barfing kin,

I have started homeopathy which has helped take the edge off, but only the edge. This mornings bile run was so violent I had it coming out of my nose (yes, very disgusting).

Food is an increasing struggle, right now I have the strange feeling of hunger, sickness AND indigestion - I have a bad tummy! Where the hell did that come from?!?

So I will see the GP this week I think. I am feeling worst for my dc's, mummy is definitely not much fun right now

love to all

Welcome boo weedle and JJB to our lovely little group where we can all feel blooming and radiant about our pregancies.... (i'm feeling sarcastic today!) Only a nausea and retching so far today managed a packet of salt and vinegar crisps and a can of coke for breakfast... highly nutritious I know! Got to see Dr tomorrow for repeat cyclazine only managed to get the doc who thinks every mummy is nurotic so all set for my battle and all prepared to puke on his floor if dont get a repeat prescription, havent got a maternity card yet so still have to pay for it but better that than not have it. Did have a ham sandwhich with some chilli chutney in for lunch and another packet of crisps with some hot ribena delightful combo! But seriously all I want to do is nothing in my nice comfy bed. But housework and DS1 bekons... also I make celebration cakes and luckily have been quiet for a few weeks but I have one to do for friday, to late to back out so going to have to stomach that. URGH. Then just a wedding cake in June... this pg was planned so I knew not to book anything in. Got a h&S inspection for kitchen on wednesday so gotta get the kitchen sparkling gotta have inspection or I will loose my registration and takes too much effort to try and get it again and effects my insurance. Will get OH scrubbing me thinks. Off to Mamas and Papas in a bit to get some maternity trousers as nothing fits and I'm huge already at 8 weeks!
Must go
love to all
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Thankyou for the welcomes! I am so sorry so many are having such a tough trot. But glad I'm not the only one living on a diet of rubbish. I have a close friend who is at the same stage as me and she's detoxing 'for the bsby' I feel like I'm just surviving!

I did have a quick question (not just a moan!) does anyone get extremely dizzy and sweat before they're sick? I've not had this before today, dh wants me to go to doc but I just feel embarrassed with yet another problem. I was trying to give dc's their brekkie and I came over really hot, v dizzy started sweating and had to lie over the work surface until it passed. I wasn't sick have only been really nauseous today. Has anyone had this? Do you think it's HG related?

I hope everyone managed some dinner tonight and has a peaceful evening x

Boo that's exactly how I feel before being sick - very hot, shaky and clammy. Littlewizz I'll admit to skimming past the food items you described, as to linger would not have been good, but if you are able to eat and feel better for it, that's great
One visual trigger for me when pregnant with dd3 was adverts for KFC popcorm chicken. My god I could feel a wave when I even typed it then.Cake can I be nosy and ask what homeopathic remedes you are taking?Caramel I didn't realise how far into pregnancy you were - have you had HG for the whole time?
Not too bad today; sickness seems to be at its worst mid-afternoon onwards which is better for me than first thing as I can literally collapse into bed and usually sleep the worst of it off. I am very conscious as my memories of past HG pregnancies return, that the cyclizine is by no means a miracle for me, but is certainly stopping the nausea and sickness that I did have turning into HG.
I have a scan booked for Thursday when I will be 8 weeks - a bit anxious as this pregnancy follows a mc at 7 weeks (where I had not a sniff of sickness, ditto my mmc at 10 weeks) so for once I might indulge those who tell me 'it's a good sign'