New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

Oh my days, how do you ladies with babies in nappies cope? I am looking after my friends little girl today and she just filled her nappy. Made my eyes water!

Hi all, have avoided the hospital thank goodness, got quite upset at the thought of it even though so many have said it has made them feel much better! Am now on a combination of Avomine before bed and then Buccastem dissolvable during the day - this seems to be working really well and am managing to get down alot more fluid which, in turn, is making me feel better. Still feeling pretty sick all day but have had 3 days of no actual sickness - think my toilet is missing me!!! :) fingers crossed that the only way is up from here - 12 weeks on Tuesday so could also be a factor?!? Looking forward to seeing my little 'parasite' (!!) on my scan!

Virtual hugs to all x

coconuts nappies are evil - I try a combination of holding my breath and rushing through it as quickly as possible!! any done while daddy is at home are his! :)

My dentist was really cheeky last week, she was going through my teeth and she muttered 'Textbook case' to her nurse. I knew straight away what she meant (textbook bulimic) because my sister is a dental nurse so I sat straight up and said 'Excuse me?' she went very and said 'Your teeth are showing quite a lot of enamel weardown, do you vomit often?' I said 'Of course I do, if you read my notes on that screen you'll see I'm on my third bout of hyperemesis. Which is a pregnancy related illness that gives you severe n&v.'

She was really nice to me afterwards and gave me two samples of pro enamel! I've always tried to brush once a day cocoanuts but some days just couldn't so use a mouthrinse too. elliot so glad sickness seems to be subsiding for you. bike my acupuncturist said about culmative effect too, maybe find a new one? theonly work meltdowns are only natural cake panicking about the long road ahead is very,very common. You are at the worst point of HG and its extremely hard to remain positive at your stage.Please give yourself a mental break and just deal with one day at a time.

I often think about how women around the world cope with HG. It would be interesting to know? I know in the US & Australia they are well supported medically but often wonder how women in hot countries such as India/Pakistan/Africa etc cope? The hot weather must make it very difficult to control dehydration. I keep thinking about the HG pregnant women in Japan too. If they are suffering from HG I don't know how they'd be managing in temp accomodation & with limited food/water etc.

cake in defence of meds, ondansetron (zofran) was bloody brilliant. get it if you can. it gave me my life back. a friend of mine's on it at the moment and she says same thing. I took it from about 8 weeks till birth, from taking the first tablet, I didn't vomit again!!! not once. if GP won't give you, get a referral to an OB.

nitnatnaboo LucindaE Thank you so much for your advise
MOH100you are a lovely lady thank you so much for your kindness and generosity.

I still feel very sick one of my friend is coming to visit 2 days now I was able to drink and eat a bit without vomiting, at least from morning til mid afternoon.

The evening things are getting a bit bad to tell you the truth but it is better than last week I suppose.

I ll go to the GP Monday, hoping to be healthy enough, my friend will drive me.

Thanks for being here, it is really needed.

Hello All. My word what a lot Ive missed! I wont try and respond to all, but its safe to say that I'm sending you all anti-vom vibes and sympathy.

For me, 14-16 weeks seemed to be the wind down time. I'm now 18.5 weeks and the vom seems to have stopped. Only residual problem is the immense amount of trapped gas in my stomach (but strangely not bowels). It makes my small bump look much bigger! I haven't found a way of controlling it yet and it makes enjoying food and keeping nausea at bay very difficult. On the plus side (and its a plus I will remember for the rest of my life!) being able to keep food down at all is tremendous :)

I hope everyone has as good a weekend as possible. xx

coconuts oh my god I just dont brush them much (shameful I know). I had to get that really runny gel stuff by Colgate and even then I can cope for 5-10 seconds before I start gagging, its feeling it on the back of my tongue. I swear my teeth are gonna be rotten. whats the point of brushing them after you puke if brushing them makes you puke? and as I mainly puke foam/water in morning I can sort of get away with it ha ha ha

god, to brush my teeth for 2 minutes would be lush! even now I am not being as sick, I still cannot cope with it just as much as months ago.

Hi Lucinda and sickies This thread is getting difficult to keep up with - seems very busy right now! Surprised the sewers can cope with us all

Grumblin how are you feeling today? Hope better than recently. Sounds like a very demanding, stressful job - just what you need when you've got HG. Dentist was a bit at my stained teeth too, but luckily I'd already told him I had HG so didn't get accused of having bulima! How rude of them to make assumptions right in front of you.
Coconuts try waiting till you have just been sick, then brush your teeth. The gag reflex seems to disappear for a few minutes at this point - think it's the adrenalin rush! I found this was the best time to have a shower as I had 15 minutes of feeling lively before my legs went!
Rozee glad the vom has gone. Hopefully the nausea will disappear soon.
Caramel can't believe you are 36 weeks! Wonder how Katy is getting on with her induction < sends pain and vomit eliminating vibes>
Lucinda had a cup of mint tea made with real leaves the other day - was delicious - tea bags not a patch on the real thing. Can see why you braved the stagger to the veg patch daily for it!
Mimatchin Sorry you are still bad. Glad you have got GP appt. Don't be afraid to get stroppy or cry till you get some treatment. You are doing the right thing by eating/drinking when you feel best.

I have been feeling better - have not even done a dry heave in the last 2 days. Tena lady use has been suspended! Hopefully 'it' may be winding down finally! (22+2 today). Occasional nausea but try and deep breathe through it. Think improvement may have a lot to do with the work situation being resolved - when I tried to go back the vom got worse, but now am signed off it has definitely improved.

Waves to all not mentioned by name

rozee have you felt movements yet? I am exactly the same as you with the trapped wind but had constipation too, and I keep feeling things but I could say they are wind etc. Hmmmm......

well, I feel even MORE embarrassed about yesterday but it has actually made a difference, I opened a whole can of worms!

Never been so pleased for a Friday as I have been today. I am struggling with pregnancy brain (I missed something for an exhibition, went to take it from office to their warehouse, forgot box AGAIN until assistant shouted me....idiot) and I am gld I now dont hve to think for 2 days.

i love spring. i feel so happy today, even if I did cry when Gloria Gaynor came on the radio. Can you imagine how hurt she was when she wrote I will survive? hah. I have actually turned into a freak

Blimey this thread is moving along :)
Caramel glad to hear you're OK.
KatyStar have you had that baby now?
Grumblin - I never really got that "nesting" thing, probably too knackered from the constant sickness and nausea, so have resigned myself to the fact that the house won' be properly clean and sorted for the next couple of years now :)
Theonly I'm sure you're not the first and won't be the last pregnant emo woman at work! I remember feeling really terrible about letting the school and my class of children down but then got to the stage here I realised that (fabulous as I am:)) it wasn't going to be the end of the world and that my health and wellbeing was more important.
Bikerunski -have you thought about changing your name temporarilyy? PukeVomMeh maybe?
My acupuncturist was very good, there are different types of ascupuncture and he used a method that involved using the hand and ears - is it worth looking around for another practitioner? He is in Cambridgeshire but had people travel from London to use him.
Cake I agree with MOH that ondansetron was an absolute lifesaver for me. Have you got anyone you can tell who would be happy to have dd for a few hours now and again?
Coconuts glad the scan went well, in the long term a few months of lacklusture brushing hopefully won't be too terrible.
ElliottsMummy glad things are under control so far.
Missmatcin - if you're feeling rally rough at the gps could you get your friend to come in with you for moral support?
LA it's always a relief when you get a sicknote although I had a bit of an issue that the dates didn't match up because I wasn't always well enough to get to the Drs every time one ran out so I then had to get an updated sick note to cover the 2/3 days inbetween so that the school could claim for the supply cover - as if I'd suddenly got better/not pregnant for 2 days between being too ill to work
Rozee good to hear you're keeping food down. You sound a bit like me - puking died down a bit after 20 weeks but constant nausea and heartburn throughout.
Lucinda and LA - yes you'd think the powers that be wouldn't burden an hg sufferer with a prem baby but hey ho what doesn't kill us makes us stronger and all that...
To anyone I've missed gentle cyber hugs and virtual ondansetron :)

I am so happy to hear you are starting to feel better nitnat and theonly and rozee It really is wonderful to hear ladies coming through and getting a break from it

Thanks for the tip of odanestron, I will be requesting whilst holding a large blunt instrument that from my gp if the natural way doesn't go well.

My OH is really helping out at the moment, flexing work time to come and be mr mum so I can have a break. I hope he can keep it up for another 14 weeks!

mimatchin you sound low a bit like me. It all just takes away your enthusiasm and 'life force' doesn't it. I'm feeling for you

oh LucindaE don't worry about asking the "have you tried" for some reason it is actually helpful and valid hearing it from a fellow sufferer (its the men and old biddies my eyes glaze over for), ice lollies are next to try when cup-a-soup no longer works and lucozade is a good energy fix.

Morning all on a lovely sunny Saturday.

theonly, so we're bump buddies as well as fellow HG sufferers :) excellent! I wasn't sure at first about the baby moving but it's a regular party in there now. The small movements do feel like gas but they're in the 'wrong' place IYKWIM. It does kick though (and possibly punch and headbut for all I know) which at the moment feels like someone flicking me from the inside - very odd.

After having an emergency day off yesterday (so nauseas!) it looks like I've got to brave a bit of a drive to the MIL. Let's hope nausea, tiredness and baby brain don't kick in today Luckily MIL is lovely so will understand if I suddenly go and claim her bed for a nap...

I know HG feels, and is, the worst experience possibly ever but I promise it eases off eventually. Of course then the other pregnancy issues tend to assert themselves but one problem at a time eh? Gentle cyber hugs to you all.

Caramel Tell me about the ball, I'd never heard of them until recently [Pushes sofa to one side. Anyone else want to put their feet up?].
NitNat Wonderful news that it might at last be bowing out at over 22 weeks! About mint tea, I found the fresh stuff did help much more than the teabag sor (which can in fact be vaguely nauseating) and I would recommend that anyone try it, avoiding snails, of course...I think it was an eighteenth century remedy for nausea and vomiting in pregnancy.
LA Be proud of your expansion, it shows you have bested Hyperemesis. Those workmates don't sound as if they have any idea.
Grumblin about the insensitivity of that dental nurse, talking over you like that, even if she was nice later. Congratulations on actually going to the dentist as well as 1/ looking after lo's 2/ working 3/ doing spring cleaning and
4/ starting threads that a certain person [looks about guiltily] wasn't able to restart.
Cocoanuts I didn't brush my teeth much, I am sorry to say. No doubt I had bad breath, and what with my chalk white face, strange rashes and uncombed hair, I must have been unappetising indeed...Talk about letting myself go!
Cake I'm so glad you don't mind suggestions. I think ice lollies are so soothing. Probably they, and ice cream, remind one of childhood treats too and are comforting .
Ski How are you today, feeling for you, and Mim if you feel too sick to talk much, try and get your friend to speak up for you to your GP about the deydration. Have you got any of those Kesosticks from a chemist to check your urine for signs of your being badly dehydrated?
theOnly So glad that your Oscar winning performance did the trick at work.Hey, warning! I have been weepy ever since having a baby, and I never used to cry! I bawl about silly films . I bawled at the end of 'Pochohontas' the other day. and all sorts of things. I have become - aagh! - quite girly like that. Also, I can't stop myself from running over to prams, babbling admiration.It's not my fault, everyone. I used to be sensible...
FluffyWhiteKittens Prem babies are so terrifyingly small, I found an eight and a half pound newborn alarmingly tiny...
Rozee Delighted that you have bested the Hyperemesis Demons.
ElliotsMummy So glad meds are working.
Anyone I have rudely not mentioned How are things with you on such a nice sunny day?

LucindaE
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Hi just a quick post to say I had a baby boy on thursday 7lb 3oz! All doing well! I will post more when I get Home hopefully tomorrow. Love Katy xx

Katy wonderful,well done! I can be the first to congratulate you! You made it... and a fine sized prize, too! I hope it didn't hurt too much?!
Are you eating well?
LucindaE
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Congratulations Katy xx

Congratulations Katy! That's marvellous :)

Congratulations Katy Really great news :) :) xx

Congratulations Katy, lovely to hear good news, hope you're both doing well xx

Katy that's fabulous news, congratulations!!!! Hope you're doing well and feeling up to making up for lost eating opportunities. and and (maybe not in that order) for you in copious amounts!

Firstly Congrats Katie, nice to hear someone coming out the other side. Secondly i'm Chloe and currently 7 weeks with my DC2 and have a very sore bum from a cyclizine injection this afternoon! I had hypermesis first time round for 20 weeks, and got no help or understanding untill I needed to go to hospital then help was very limited /non existent as was managing to keep down fish fingers! This time round 3.5 years on I have decided enough was enough after I spent last night and all day with my head in the loo and the room spining and my little boy all upset cause mummy was behaving very strangely. Today I was very surprised as the out of hours GP was preggers and had suffered in the same way so jabbed my bum telling me she understood how much it hurt and gave me a cyclizine prescription and told me to get a blood test next week and some more meds. I could have cried with apprecation or was that the sting in my bum! Have just eaten some pizza and drinking some lemonade and feel normal ish YAY for the first time in two weeks! My DS1 is having a sleepover at the grandies and my otherhalf is being fab after he nearly lost his life this morning mentioning postive thinking might help! SO currently I feel much happier after my hormanal sobbing this morning. Found this thread when doing some research and thought i would join in. Does anyone have any advice for taking the cyclizine tablets in order to survive the day? Wishing you all a happy healthy non puking pregnancy xxxx

Wonderful news, congrats Katy. Hope you enjoyed tea and toast!! Look after yourself. Look fwd to hearing all about it soon x

Hi ladies,

I hope you dont mind me gatecrashing for a moment for quick question?

I am 7 weeks pregnant and terrified of getting HG again as I had it in my last pregnancy which ended in mc - I know its not logical but now I have associated throwing up with the whole pregnancy ending! Anyway, a week and half ago I started feeling all day nausea, so bad that I just stopped functioning properly and was dreading it getting worse and developing into full on vomiting, so I went to the doctor to ask for meds. I have been on them three days (25mg of mexclezina every 8 hours), it hasnt totally got rid of the nausea but its taken the edge off enough to be able to live my life again. The only problem is that now paranoia has set in and I am worried about the possible effects on the baby? Reassurance please! My doctor wouldnt prescribe me anything that was really unsafe would he? Anyone got any reassuring stats? I guess I am extra worried because I live in Costa Rica and there are not the same standards of care as in the UK.

grumblingalong Yes, it is harder in the heat! However one advantage we have over here is that coconut water is available everywhere, is dirt cheap and is a natural rehydration drink. Dr Google tells me the vitamin and mineral properties it has can help with morning sickness too.

Katy congrats!

MummyAbroad Welcome, 'Gatecrashing'? Don't be silly, this thread is for YOU as a current sufferer!
I am sorry that you are suffering again,I can see why you might be anxious being out of the UK but from all I've heard international standards are high regarding avoiding risky drugs in pregnancy. I have never heard of ANY abnormalities resulting from meds prescribed by doctors for vomiting in pregnancy - they are so careful. They don't like prescribing them because they are so paranoid about being careful, I suppose they are scared that if anything does go wrong you will blame it on the meds and sue them, but I'm sure they are really safe these days. Just to set your mind at rest it might be an idea to post a query on the HelpHer Hyperemesis website naming the drug and I'm sure you'd get reassurance.
It was bad luck to have Hyperemesis AND a miscarriage, I believe Mums with Hyperemesis are less prone to miscarriage. I had a missed miscarriage, with the nausea just starting up and then fading out, so there was SOME comfort when I started throwing up violently with the second....
I know a miscarriage makes you anxious, it's a shame, it takes away some of the natural joy and looking forward that you should have. Sending you cyber hugs.
Wizz Welcome too. Poor you about horrible recent sufferings, and with a L/O too. Thank goodness you got sympathy and effective treatment, even if you did get a sore bum! Odd how a number of GP's seem to get it, and teachers, too.

Was it TheOnly who found that routine made a huge difference and suggested a routine? I hope she and some of the other curernt sufferers will be on soon to advise about their routine. It was either early on in this thread or back on the old one, but I shouldn't think you'll be up to scrolling through all that!

I had such a mean doctor, I wasn't prescribed any meds either, but I did get given some from the Acupunturist. I used to take those funny little pills I'd been given by an Acupunturist after the 'bile run' (I still had that for a while after treatment) first thing, and then lie down for half an hour and then it seemed there was a chance of their working, but those were funny alternative medicine things, and I suppose the instructions with ordinary anti vom meds are different?

MaryLou you are rather quiet...I hope not in hospital?
NitNat Still delighted (as below) that you found the fresh mint tea helpful! It is completely different from the tea bags stuff...
Caramel Cocoaunuts LA Grumblin Luce Ski Cake Mima TheOnly ElliotsMummy Everyone how you? Rozzee I know is doing well and Fluffy purring these days. (My mother used to breed cats, and that was my first experience of maternity, cats purring loudly over their kittens!)
LucindaE
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