New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

Hello everyone hope your all feeling ok and not be being to sick! My hg must know it's time is coming to an end as it's been really bad the last few days dread to think what my keytones will be like tomorrow. I can't believe I am finally at an end. I can safely say this is my last pregnancy I could not go through this again! Good luck to all of you with the rest of your pregnancys and I hope you all feel better soon. I will of course be checking in hopefully this weekend to let you know how I got on. I also want to say a big thank you to all off you for your support and the laughs you have given me when I didn't think I could carry on.
Love Katy
Ps I should not try and do things from my phone aplogisies for the spelling and grammer! Xxxxx

will be thinking of you, katy, munching tea and toast :)

work is shit. doing more hours but the level of work I have and to catch up on is ridic. i ended up staying til half 5 last night and leaving really angry and ready to leave because of snotty emails, just no need. they havent done a risk assesment on me yet so i shall make them do that tomorrow.

of course, as a result, extra bucket bile run this morning, i normally stop puking after 9am but not today and using lappy this morning made me puke too so just been in bed all day :( work is bad for your health!

hugs to all xxxx

Hi everyone :)

Wow! I can't believe how quickly this thread has grown in just 2 days! Crazy! Thank you all so much for your warm welcomes - it's just so nice to know that I'm not worshipping the porcelain alone!

Dare I say it, I actually had an ok day yesterday! Managed to eat some toast, crisps and chicken soup and more impressively, keep it all down! I felt so much better that I thought I'd reward myself with some chocolate cake...bad move! It must've pushed me over the edge as the flood gates literally opened and well, me and the old porcelain became nicely reacquainted :( Oh well, I guess there's something to be said for routine...back to feeling lousy it is then.

LucindaE - I told my GP about the extent of my sickness and she said the same as you - you must be so tired / dehydrated, which I am. I've been to hospital once already - an experience I don't really want to have to repeat, so I guess I'm lucky really in that I've found cherry lucozade to be one of the only things I actually fancy the taste of and can keep down. As sympathetic as she has been, she has said she is at a bit of a loss as to what to suggest / do next. Luckily I'm seeing my obstetrician on Monday and my GP suggested that perhaps he might know something that she as a GP doesn't, so fingers crossed!

Off for my glucose tolerance test in the morning. Have to fast from 9pm this evening - nothing but water from then till roughly midday tomorrow...hmmm :s Can't really see that being much of a problem! I wouldn't be keeping anything down anyway!

Here's hoping you're all well and enjoying a sick-free week!

fluffy prem baby in IC after hell of HG is so unfair, must have been tough but glad you've now got 2 healthy kids and can enjoy cake (well when u get chance!)
nitnat brill news on work situation, hope this eases anxiety and can focus on resting and keeping as well as poss till D day.
Mimatchin Welcome but just sorry you've had to join us. As all have said there are safe medications so do push for this if continue to feel so ill.
WhipMeIndiana thanks for posting and reminding us there is something eonderful at the end of HG :) Sounds like you had a particularly bad time though :(
Grumblin good to hear from you as were worried but sorry you're so down. Must be hard not be affected by what you do and not suprised compounded by HG which is depressing enough.
Katy good luck - let us all know news when you can, v excited for you.

No change for worse or better v tired, always nauseous but can eat ok with some quirks and drink sparkling water. Worked till 5.30 today which was exhausting - know how you feel theonly and just hope I can agree continued reduced hours as not sure will cope.

Sorry haven't mentioned all but really need to sleep now...

I had meds, the ones through the drip in hospital were the absolute dogs danglies -

some chemo thing, (sorry maxillon?) cant really remember names

then the ones the doctor gave me didnt help at all
but my appetite was ok enough to avoid being readmitted.

nothing seemed to help me, not ginger, not anything
and smells, and sights of smelly things -
the sight of the frying pan - even when clean would have me vomiting;
the sight of the oven, apples, making my toddlers dinner was almost unbearable, the smell of toast, even the smell of the vacuum cleaner fgs.

also remember my mouth being absolutely flooded with saliva the whole damn time. Gross.

nb. the doctor told me I couldnt have the hospital drug prescribed as it was waaaay too expensive
the hospital couldnt have been better, its a fairly common thing to see on the gynae/womens wards.
far more common than pg books/magazines would have you believe.

even one particular shower gel affected me so badly it makes me heave even now, 2 yrs on, if I smell it1

Hi there fellow HGers! How's everyone doing? Sad to see more newcomers but glad that at least you have found a group of people who understand what you're going through. I don't think anyone gets it unless they've been through it themselves really.

I've been reading but haven't had a chance to post for a few days so this could get a bit long ...

MOH100 I agree that there should be more public awareness and maybe MN can help by putting some specific to HG info on the site somewhere.
la Laughed so much at your scheduled 'adult' time. This pregnancy it has been far, far from my mind, poor DH. Won't be any trouble not going through this again if I stay the same after the baby is out!
Rozee has getting the indigestion under control helped at all? I have low bp too, it's a nightmare feeling that out of control spinning and the only advice GPs/MWs give is to stay seated as much as possible. very practical!
Lottie how are you doing?
Katy will be thinking of you today, hope all goes well and can't wait to hear your news! Will be imagining you gobbling toast and cheese freely tomorrow!
theonly sounds like work is making things worse, that's the last thing you need. Hope the risk assessment has helped in some small way.
fluffy hope you're well and ds too. Weaning already! Can't believe it.
marylou sorry it hasn't turned out to be a bug. Hope you're able to try another medication to see if that helps. There are so many to try and seems what works for one doesn't for another.
ElliottsMummy hope you've found a med that helps and are managing to keep your spirits up.
Luce sorry you're still suffering past the magic 20. I've found it easier this pg actually facing the reality from the start that this would probably last the whole way to labour as the first time I kept being told it would ease and it didn't and I'd feel so much more depressed and like a failure. Keep complaining all you like!
ellabeau & Mimatchin welcome, take a seat, as close to the loo as you like, and select from a wide variety of mints, chewy fruits, crisps and lucozade.
Lucinda can't believe you suffered after birth too. No wonder you were even more reluctant to go through it all again. That is too cruel.
nitnat so glad you've been signed off for the rest of the pg. Now you can focus completely on doing whatever you can to manage the evil HG master and see if you can find a delicate balance that helps things.
Coconuts how are the bile runs going? Hope you're in an upward pattern for a few days at least and that yesterday's scan went well.
Cake are you ok? The 6/7wk mark is a scary place to be knowing that the worst is probably just around the corner. Hope it passes fast for you.
Grumblin so sorry you're having a rough time. I understand the black feelings as do a lot of others here I'm sure. I know I have a lot to be thankful for but sometimes the physical manages to win over the mental and I feel things slipping too. Your work must makes things even harder. Hopefully a weekend to look forward to will help.
WhipMeIndiana I wonder how many of us there are out there who can no longer tolerate ginger, pregnant or not. The thought of it, even reading it on menus when not pregnant, still makes me shiver slightly. Eeeeeew. Disgusting that you were told the cost of ondansetron was too much. Can't be more than a stay in hospital really now can it? .

Well, I'm almost 36 weeks now so trying to focus on the finish line to get through these last few weeks. Feeling the same, ok if I live by the strict regime I've found works but if I deviate or try to do anything extra I wind up shaky, sweaty and close to vomitting again so am clearly not cured just managing!

Oh and how could I forget. Food of the week that is safe for me is ice cream. Can't get enough of it! Dreaming of a gelateria opening on my street!

Caramel Take a seat, Madam, you look rather large to be standing at the back...lol. Sorry you still feel bad. That end result is in sight! Thanks for taking time out after 36 weeks of Hyperemesis to sympathise with my miseries of yesteryear.
KatyStar Sorry its so bad, its as if its determined to get you as much as possible before being chased away. All good luck. You must be excited. Tell us all when you have a chance...
Grumblin sorry you have been down, the job sounds harrowing if rewarding, and hard to deal with as well as Hyperemesis Lo's. I hope no more retching over sink/blood in bath experiences?
NitNat Still glad you don't have to worry about work any more...
theOnly and La It's not fair you have to do a full workload in half the time, which is what that sounds like. Sorry about foul bile runs. Why is so much bile manufactured by the liver...
Mit I hope you got 100's advice and got some good advice from the Pregnancysickness people? Don't feel alone, moan here whenever you feel down.
WhipMeIndiana Thanks for great posts. I know what you mean about sense of smell and saliva!
MaryLou sorry that it does seem to be the scourge. It is awful when it is early on. Is the doctor likely to recommend anything else? I don't know at what stage things eased before? That is something to hang on to, but not easy. Did you say you had no luck with 'Acupunture*? Good luck with the nux vom. Keep us informed.
Cake How are things? Thinking of you. Regarding that, and Ella Sorry nothing seems to be working - sorry to be saying have you thought of trying - but you know it's not meant officiously - Acupunture or *
Homeopathy. I didn't think of the latter, but I have often bored on about how the former stopped it in its tracks after a few treatments, and you should have seen the state I was in at the time of my emergency appointment.
Fluffy I didn't realise your first as a prem baby. That must have been worrying. Glad that this one is a giant.
Rozzee Are insides still working better?
Luce Hope you got my suggestion about bathroom lol.
Everyone I've rudely overlooked Look after yourself...
LucindaE
xx

Luce CaramelNitNatLAGrumblin KatyStar et al I do so feel for those of you who suffer beyond twenty weeks, its so unfair and must be awful as one after aother of the 'deadlines' go by .[anxiously offering very gentle cyber hugs). You are stars for being so brave!
LucindaE
xx

Caramel glad you posted was getting worried. Sorry HG still hanging on but hopefully not long to go now :)

well last night went to bed when posted and got straight up to chuck up dinner. Woke at 1am to do same. Up till 4, feel like crap so working from bed with laptop and bb! Not sure if it was working later or just a blip. Interested to see what GP has to say today.

Sending good vibes to everyone else x

Aw la, sorry you had such a bad night. Rubbish sleep is the one thing guaranteed to make the HG worse. Hope you get a chance for a little nap at some point today and that the GP can help.

Aw you poor thing la were you throwing up from 1 until 4am ? Night time vomming is so much worse than day time. How are you feeling today? Do you have to work? I'd just put it aside and think 'I'm ill, I shouldn't be working'. If you tell the GP you're not coping with work I'm sure they'll sign you off?

caramel I can not believe you are 36 weeks! I'm so jealous! I can stomach ice cream ok (think its the coldness) too as long as its vanilla, anything else makes me go though.

theonly sorry work is doing your head in. Why do we do it to ourselves eh? If it was a man puking everyday I'm sure they'd refuse to go to work!

I wonder how katy is getting on? I was induced with DS1, shudder! Not a pleasant experience at all.

lucinda I think I blocked your comment about the HG coming back after childbirth because it scared me. How long did it come back for? I would seriously panic if it happened to me after birth, you poor love

Hey to everyone else, non sicky vibes from here. Better go finish my house spring clean, I've done upstairs now have to do downstairs, really wish I hadn't started it now though as lunch is threatening to reappear.

x

My 2 are now 8 and 11... I'm glad its not me going through that hell again. All I good eat were mashed potato, ice cream and lucozade.

Nothing constructive to say or add.. but I feel for you all.

In fact.. I think my 1st ever post on MN not long after it started was about HG.

GP given me reduced hours sick note for another month which is a huge relief as concerned how would cope with long hours. Said will keep renewing as likely will feel this way for rest of pregnancy. Trouble is she's leaving practice next month, gutted as knows my case now and been understanding :( We spend most time now chatting about our children and trials of pregnancy!
No time for nap as conference calls on and off till 4 (thankfully no knicker changes during!) but gonna try to rest now before attempting dinner (really struggled to eat today).
Really hoping all going well for Katy. I was induced too Grumblin and agree no picnic, don't know about you but for me bollocks about it being quicker labour; can't believe i went 12 hours before agreeing to epidural! Please don't overdo the cleaning and end up double cleaning loo!
Caramel mmm ice cream, had a vanilla fad while back, glad yr enjoying calcium intake ;)
Lucinda tks for usual concern, yep honeymoon period of phased return doesn't last long but taking matters in own hands and started recruiting for my mat replacement today in hope we can agree loooong handover period!
Nitnat hope yr holding up?
Eve sorry you suffered too and still remember the hell but tks for offering yr support.

All else not mentioned by name, u r in my thoughts and hope yr surviving the day without spending too much time on yr knees (well unless doing something fun of course but guessing unlikely!)

caramel wow 36 weeks! i didnt realise you were so far gone, soon you will be joining katy in tea and toast

mimatchin I hope you get the right meds, its lucky you have friends to support you, I think its peoples support that really gets you thru, you can cope with the puking after a while but you do need a hug and someone to clean yr loo for you every now and then :)

grumblin do you think its cos its spring we are getting urges to clean? I was baking and went on a washing mission last weekend and this week is sorting paperwork....fun! its almost a shame i'm not sick all day anymore to get out of it ;)

la its such a relief knowing you are signed off and they can't "make" you work or feel bad about not working!

well, girls, I lost it spectacularly at work today, you would have been impressed. My poor boss, he isnt good with women and their problem at the best of times, I snapped at him and then ranted (he isnt even the problem! but i assumed he knew what was going on and he didnt) and then burst into tears and sobbed for 20 minutes (still whilst ranting). all very valid issues I bought up (I wont have people making my assistant cry and moaning about me to her when she has already said it makes her uncomfortable). My boss was an actual star, very supportive, even had a clean tissue and recovered from the heart attack look when I first started sobbing nicely. He said I shouldnt be so stressed, he understands, he isnt expecting me to be up to date and when I am not in work I shouldnt be worrying about it, they will cope, things are done, he is having words with people in question and said at the end of the day its his problem if shit hits the fan :) he also said he is really pleased with the job we are doing and has no complaints at all. had a meeting later with another boss who confirmed this, said its counter productive me working less to rest but being so stressed I am more ill. I complained again about the person in question and they are going to sort it, i told them I nearly quit Tuesday and my assistant nearly did yesterday. its nice to know they are supportive and in fact it is ME that is my worst enemy as I am expecting too much of myself and assuming they expect the same when they really dont. well, they dont but others are unrealistic and they will be sorting. so yay!

wow that was long, sorry! I am embarrassed now, I never ever EVER been emotional at work, and today, well, I can't remember the last time I ever lost it like that.

But I was made very happy by one of my very good friends getting a BFP after years of trying......just my best friend to go then I will be super happy!

hugs to all xxx

I have been pathetic all week. Work Wed-Fri and have booked DS into nursery for Mon and Tue for next 6 weeks too. Been off work, self certified this week, planning tyo ask GP to sign me off next week. Feel utterly miserable and can only eat toast or water, and about half of that comes back. Have had 3 accupuncture sessions in last week, but accupuncturist has siad that she can't do anything more for me. Was so hopeful that this would not happen again, but also so wrong. GP has changed medication from metoclopromide to Avomine, hope it helps. Why was I not happy with 1!!!!!!

Hi all, thanks for the well wishes regarding the scan.

All is fine, my bean is rolling around in there all snug with its arms, legs, fingers and toes, measuring 11+5 so only 29 more weeks of potentially feeling crap. But it makes it all worth it after today :) still a long way to go until I regard myself as out of danger but starting to feel more positive :)

Sorry to hear about yuor troubles at work hb2, maybe after a big blow out things will be better. Don't be embarrassed about being emotional, it happens to us all :)

BikeRunSki - Hope you get on better with the Avomine. I think I have been lucky that the cyclizine has worked for me. Had a good day with the HG today, so naturally that means a slump tomorrow or Saturday :(

Big hellos to all I haven't mentioned, too much to read to namecheck everyone! :)

Cocoanuts so happy about scan! CakeHow are you? Concerned re silence...ElliotsMummy How are you? Don't seem to have posted in a while, either. I do hope you managed to avoid getting sent in?Ella Are things still the same awful 12+ a day or did the obs. think of a new med that might help, you poor thing suffering like this...Ski I am so dismayed at the Acupunturist saying she can do no more. Mine said, as I recall, that the effect (affect, always forget?) is cummulative. Cynics might say, yes, so that they made more money but I have heard that it builds up. What do Others who've had Acupunture think? It is a bit depressing. Who was it trying the Nux Vom? Might that be worht a go? Poor old you, this is a dismal stage. LA I do hope you are feeling a little better after that horrible night? There's nothing worse than Head Down Loo in the Stilly Night. Sorry about nice GP going, that is a blow. I think you and Grumblin and Everyone have been too stoic, so people don't realise, and I'm delighted, theOnly about that wonderful dramatic performance, it was needed for sure. La I still hope that the person who made that crack about your size deserves to have their trousers fall down in a supermrket . Grumblin You do spring cleaning too? I haven't done much tidying except in the garden (many herbs killed by terrible winter weather) with no excuse at all...I didn't want to relate my horror story about recurrance after birth for that reason, horrifying people, but I think it is very rare and in my case triggered by unpleasant birth/blood loss, but I did feel guilty that one of the women suffered and I didn't know, and I hadn't issued a warning, as I could, which is what prompted me to confide. Anyway, the chances seem minimal of it happening to most...You can rely on me to be awkward. Caramel Not long to go, not long to go, shall we pull a sofa onto this thread for you to put your feet up.? NitNat LA and Grumblin sofa's too?
Luce how are things on the fluids/foods front?
Mema a bit anxious about you. I do hope you are coping?
Anyone overloked Sorry, thinking of everyone.
I hope today isn't to much of a face day as distinct from a red nose day...
LucindaE
xx

hi again fellow pukers,

I started to panic yesterday again about how i would cope, I'm only 6+2 now and for both previous pg's the sickness lasted till 20weeks. I'm looking into hypnotherapy and homeopathy again, I'm desperate enough, avoiding the gp at the moment, I don't really know why, the meds as described on here don't sound like wonderful cures,

Have lost half a stone since last week which is crap because I certainly feel weaker for it, my poor dd is sad that I've cancelled her playdates until further notice!

Oh, the only thing going down so far (for now), is cup a soup and lucozade.

how are you all doing?

Cake one of my feelings, just popped back to see.Oh dear, poor you. It does seem to be so hit and miss with the meds, and the best they avoid prescribing because of expense, that one they call 'Zofran' in the US.It is so hard when it is as early as you. Sorry about the 'have you tried', but have to do it, forgive me...Are ice lollies, jelly, as some say icecream, sips of coke, ice cubes, frozen flat coke, Ironbru, nibbles of soda bread (but some find it very dense on the way up again) nibbles of crisps, limejuice or grapefruit any good? I used to glug down Lucozade, and didn't really mind its taste as it reappeared, but some find it too acid. It is so hard where you are now not to feel desperate. Was it you who was giving Nux Vomica a try? I did find sucking barley sugar - incredibly, helped with sickness very briefly, but no good for redydration.
Sending you loads of cyber sypathy.

LucindaE
xx

Cake Forgot to add, s there a friend/neighbuor/relative who might take L/O for you thus giving you a break? Poor little things, it is hard on them,but they are very resiliant. You will all get through this, but its hard.
LucindaE
xx

Can I ask how you all cope with teeth brushing?

I find it makes me gag like mad and the toothpaste taste really makes me afterwards. Last week I had two days where I didn't brush at all and with the fizzy lemonade I'm worried I'll get to the end of this pregnancy a gummy bear!

Any advice?

lucinda thanks for the couch offer, I'll just roll in my gym ball I think, very comfy.
theonly don't feel bad about cracking it at work, I think it's inevitable when you're under so much pressure and stress from your body. I'm sure everyone has forgotten already. I think pregnant women losing it must be a very common sight.
BikeRunSki I'm surprised by what your acupuncturist said as well, mine warned me that actually I might not feel any positive effects for a few treatments and that the closer I could have them together the better for the cumulative effect. Is there anyone else you can see? I know the cost is outrageous but some GPs offer it on the NHS. Worth asking just to see.
Cake I think the panic is totally normal. I know you probably don't want to hear it said again but you will get through it. If you can do any deep breathing/relaxation/hippy-type exercises at home when you feel panicky that might help??
Coconuts, teeth brushing, am ashamed to say I couldn't manage it often first pregnancy. This pregnancy I've been better, tried loads of toothpastes and eventually one of those natural ones from the health shop is ok and I just don't brush too far back. But my teeth have definitely suffered from 2 x HGs . I had to explain to the dentist that it was HG and not bulimia. Sadly I haven't found any magic cures to offer but if anyone else has any ideas I'm listening.

Friday - yay! Hope everyone has a restful weekend ahead. Big hugs.