New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

Ella welcome, lovely to meet you but sorry you're suffering. I know what you mean about 'I've Never Felt so Good Before'...[green].Take heart, I'll just reiterate what you no doubt already know, the chances are very high that sometime between now and twenty weeks it'll get manageable. It sounds horrenous enough now, 12+ times a day? Aagh...I am so glad you have a sympathetic GP, just think, a couple of generations back there were no female GP's so by definition, none of them would ever have had it...Luce clearing up someone else's sick - lol! Elliott[sMummY I hope that gliche has passed? Sounds nasty. NitNat I hope you are taking it easy, and you and LA are expanding at an exponential rate.
Fluffy Thanks for sympathy - how old is baby now? Grumblin you are quiet - I hope not being discreetly sick at work, you poor thing? Caramel Thinking of you. It's been a long haul. (hands virtual bouquet). Oh, and one forGrumblin for setting up new thread. LA TheOnlyRozee waves face.
Have to get off pc, so just sending cyber hugs to all rudely overlooked.
LucindaE
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welcome ella :) i found this thread just before 12 weeks (18 now) and it helped me stay sane!

I like the t-shirt idea "HG Survivor....if you were this sick normally, you would be dead" with maybe a x2/x3/x4 version, depending how many times survived?!

Hi Ella Sounds like you're really going through it at the moment. This thread has been a lifetime for me since December. It's what has made the HG experience bearable (especially mentally) despite it being worse this time and lasting longer. I will be telling my midwife about this MN thread! for Lucinda and everyone else for being there for me! I am a teacher, as is fluffy and have still not gone back to work at 22 weeks.
Luce congrats on blue bump and sorry HG isn't shifting - bah! How is the marvellous Johnny?
La I hope you gave that tactless work colleague a look. As if it is any of their business.
Katystar the countdown continues! Hope the vom is not making a last stand in the manner of General Custer!
Marylou hope to goodness you have a bug and not the dreaded HG. DS has also gone to bed feeling sick tonight - maybe it's going round?

Lifeline, not lifetime! I can't even blame an iPad!

Nitnat good luck with OH appt today, hope no pressure from them as obv you're not ready to go back - sounds like you've had crappy time again. Off to buy Tena lady in bulk so no hurried knicker changes during conference calls again ;). Your Mum must have been gutted about boots, I was peeved at having to throw away bathroom mat!!

Lucinda yup suddenly getting much bigger, maybe novelty of eating without chucking will wear off soon though or, as they say back at home, I'll be 'side of house' again like last time!

Slept from 8.30pm and woke feeling rested andcommentalsoup to a brew so improvement continues :)

Thinking of you all x

MaryLou How are you feeling today, any improvement? Poor LO too. Luce did I forget to congratulate you on scan, so happy about that. I bet you thought you'd never survive to see it at one time...LA Whether that comment from colleague was a put down or tactless, I hope her/his trousers fall down in a supermarket...NitNat All three directions is dire... lol about your poor mother's boots...You are hanging on so well. Congratulations on surviving dentist,that fear of opening the throat...Don't let them pressure you at O/H, if you are still this bad then you are not up to going back, it's simple. Mother hen is still clucking about Grumblin having to return.After all, finally they can't force you, surely? It must be so difficult for teachers and teaching assistants. It's such a demanding job with no hiding away in an office with a sick basin. There have been a lot of teachers on here. Is an extra risk of Hyperemesis one of the perks of the job?
TheOnly That would be a splendid t shirt - there used to be a lot of morning sickness icons on a place called Photobucket, super glamorous Barbies elegantly sitting by the loo, I am afraid my first thought was that there should be something IN the loo, and a wet bathroom floor by the sufferer...
Ella Does the GP know it is still 12+ times a day, because you must be so tired/dehydrated? Have you got the famous kesosticks, I suppose she recommended those? ElliotsMummy Are you a little better? Rozzee So glad this thread kept you sane.I do think Hyperemesis makes a woman feel as if she is in a horrible alternative reality because her experience is so different from the norm...
Caramel How are you and the Lotties.
everyone take care.
LucindaE
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Hi Nitnat, the marvelous Johnny is still marvelous however his recent comment of "everytime I try to use the bathroom you need to puke!" was not appreciated!!

He's still being his fabulous patient self and keeps trying to tell me I look sexy

Got so over excited after yesterday's scan he had to eat an entire multi-pack of snickers bars (he's diabetic) then have a 2 hour nap!!

Thanks you to everyone for their messages
Luce x

Afternoon all. Sorry this is a me-me-me post

Back from Occ Health. Saw the same woman again and she said she was when she got the report saying I'd tried to go back to work. The nicest thing is that she just listened to me. She has signed me off for the rest of the pregnancy. This is partly due to the still vom/weakness from HG and partly due to the fact that I am prone to PND after having it last time and due to having HG this time - I am already on antidepressants as a preventative measure. She said the stress caused by going back would not be good for me and it's kind of dawned on me that this may be just as much of an issue as the HG - no wonder I have been uber anxious about going back to work.

Came out and immediately had to go and heave in their loos and then had a near miss in M&S whilst buying an emergency pack of crisps - was wandering round with hand over mouth and a worried look on face!

Luce I admire anyone who can eat an entire multi-pack of snickers. That is some digestive system he has there!

Hi all been having a bad couple of days I don't know what is happening to me. I have my 12 week scan Thursday so it might be the HG with an added measure of nerves but I hardly kept anything in yesterday until about half 8 in the evening. when I had a crisp sandwich.

I threw up a whole load of bile first thing this morning. Usually the bilerun is really strained due to being empty but this was like a full on spew, bile just poured out like it was water. TMI sorry.

Nitnat - I have had near misses in shops too from needing to eat quickly. Ended up just opening what I was buying in the queue and they had to scan the empty bag

I have just managed to eat another crisp sandwich (I'm noticing a trend!) and half an apple and some lemonade but I'm fully expecting it to return in a while.

I had two really good days over the weekend and actually went shopping and for a walk with DD and to see ILs. Perhaps I did too much.

Sorry for me, me, me just need to vent about feeling so shitty again.

nitnat - am really glad you got to see someone sympathetic. What a relief to be signed off for the rest of the pregnancy, no need now to stress about when you'll be well enough to go back.

I'm still scarily waiting to see what's going to happen. Still feeling nauseous but not throwing up (touch wood). Have gone off most food though and my sense of smell has gone through the roof. I had to rewash an apple yesterday as I was convinced I could smell the pesicides on it. Don't know why I bothered because I didn't manage to eat it. The fabric conditioner smell seems to hang around forever, I never used to believe those adverts but I do now. I'm managing to have small sips of water but I think there would be a bad result if I tried to have a big drink of it. Also feeling tired and a bit dizzy. DS still hasn't got rid of the bug, he's hardly eating anything but is drinking more now at least.

Hello again,

I stayed off the thread for a while as I was feeling tolerable and didn't want to jinx it. But. No. After a week of fighting it, I'm throwing up regularly now and churning all day long.

I know the buckets of bile thing, I was doing that first thing this morning too.

I also relate to the canine sense of smell. After walking my dd to nursery, I could smell the exhaust on my clothes for ages indoors.

I'm a bit gutted too as I miscalculated my dates, I thought I was 6-7 weeks but I'm only just 6 weeks now which means the sick came early and I'm in for a rough ride.

Ella welcome, sorry you had to join the club though. As you can see nothing is tmi here!! With my first pregnancy not only did I have gh I also had a prem baby who was on scubu and nicu and in hospital for 10 days whose weight dropped and she had severe jaundice :( It's OK to feel pissed off that you are not experiencing a fantastic, glowing pregnancy. It's almost like mourning the ideal that the media and others so often portray.
This thread is great because it makes you feel relatively normal again and that you're not the only pregnant woman going through it.
LA next time feel free to throw up on your workmate when they make such helpful comments. "Quite" sick, yeah and The Pope is "quite" catholic
I only made it to 35 weeks with dd so was totally unprepared for how massive I got in the last few weeks - although I was eating huge amounts of shortcake and white bread :)
TheOnly, I think that's one of the things that people really don't get - I just thank my lucky stars that at least there is treatment even if it is a nightmare trying to get it and that not that many years ago in the scheme of things it's unlikely any of us would have survived :(
So I'll order one of those t-shirts :)
NitNat really pleased to hear that you have been signed off - when I was working with dd I was signed off from May and only went back for half a term in September.
Hopefully you can avoid the added stress of PND it's no wonder that hg sufferers are prone to it. I'm so lucky to have lots of family and friends support near by.
Coconuts it's easy to overdo it - you think you feel fine but a trip to the shops can reduce you to a vomming, quivering mess again. Try and take it easy, good luck with the scan.
Mary-Lou fingers still crossed for you.
Cake, I've done that with my dates but on the faintly positive side at least you know what to expect, are you taking anything yet?
Waves cheerily at Luce,Lucinda, Rozee, ElliottsMummy,Caramel, Grumblin and any one else I've missed. Hope you're all OK.
Lucinda ds will be 5 months tomorrow - he is massive and wearing 6-9 month clothes and it will soon be time to start weaning. Can't believe how quickly the time goes.

Hi all, hope everyone is having an ok day. I had Gp appointment today and she said I was v. Nearly at the stage of having to go to hospital for fluids :( higher dose of avomine seems to have made no difference in the past week so she changed me to buccastem dissolvable tablets and I have to go back tomorrow to see if they are gona send me in. On a good point finally had my midwife booking appointment and have booked my first scan for next Tuesday - fingers crossed for only one little heartbeat!!! :)

Hi there, I am happy (despite my current condition) that such thread exists. I am feeling very lonely and isolated in my everyday sickness. I am 10 weeks pregnant now and I hope that my condition will get better soon. I feel sick nearly all day long, my sleep is restless I can hardly move from the bed and I have very little help. I am single mother to be, unemployed and very far from my family.:(
I eat little because I cannot keep food in my stomach, even though I still vomit nearly everything. I feel weaker and weaker.
Fortunately I have 1 or 2 friends I can talk to and who listen to me without judging me or telling me what to do with my life and my futur baby to be.
It is quiet tough time for me and it is good to see that there can be some support somewhere.
I also read everywhere that there was no treatment and that the only medication allowed was paracetamol.
In my case this does not help at all, also peppermint tea and Ginger make me vomit even more.
I feel powerless and very isolated I will follow the few links I have seen in few of the threads and see if this help.

Hi Mimatchin Welcome and sorry that you feel so ill. Are you managing to keep some fluids down without vomiting? If not, go to your GP and ask for anti-emetic medication. Otherwise you will become dehydrated. It is not true, as you will have seen from this thread, that the only medication you can take is paracetamol. There are lots of safe medications, such as Prochlorperazine, Cyclizine and Ondansetron. Ginger and peppermint do not work for me either! Let us know how you are getting on.

Katystar 2 more sleeps till the end of vom . Oh yes, and a lovely baby too!

hi ladies
hi had hiprem with my second pregnancy
I couldnt keep down food, or water for days
my MIL ( a midwife) had left me some old urine test sticks so I did one
I was +4 protein so I rang the hospital and they told me to go straight in, I was 9 weeks pg at time, ended up on drip for 4 days

was actually nice to have a rest at that point
I was puking upwards of 10 times a day, I feared for the enamel on my teeth
found docotr and pharmacist useless - with the attitude of you're pg, get over it

Ive never been more depressed as when I had Hiprem

I drew a big calendar on wall of the 9 months and crossed off each day
i got eating ideas off the internet
after about 12 weeks my appetite reyturned but I vomited 8-10 times each day for the whole 9 months.

I had a c-section, and a beautiful baby boy, and the sickness ended after he was delivered. My teeth are also fine!

I survived it and you can too.
Try loads and loads of new foods and drinks, and make fruity milkshakes, to see if theres anything you can eat.

WhipMeIndiana hello and lovely to hear from someone else who has come out the other end of HG. Poor you vomiting 8-10 times a day - did you have meds?
Coconuts glad you were able to return to normal society, albeit briefly, at the weekend. Def agree that any extra exertion or stress brings on the vom again. Did you have a bile run this morning too?
Fluffy wow - 5 months and the joy of weaning approaches. Is the memory of the puking receding at all?
Marylou and Cake I also had a bionic nose and I think it was one of the worst culprits for affecting appetite but it has gradually gone back to normal-ish over the last 4 weeks, even though vom remains.
La how was the dreaded tube this morning?
Grumblin are you still off work or have you dragged yourself back?

DS is currently just in the lead in the vom stakes this morning. I have only dry heaved - he has puked and has caught my upset stomach. Oh joy!

Mima I am so sorry that things are so hard for you, it is very difficult to fight your corner when so ill, I let my own GP walk over me, but it sounds like you need meds before you get too dehydrated. Can a friend go with you, if you feel too ill to argue? Say you are getting dehydrated as you can't even keep liquids down. Does jelly, sips of tepid water, ice cubes, sips of Coke, Lucozade or IronBru do any good? Ice lollies? Lemonade? Do try and get some kesosticks from a chemist to check the level of dehydration. Take heart, I don't think I have encountered anyone who is quite as ill later on as they are in the first trimster. Things will get better and the baby will be worth it, but that seems a long away for you now. Remember the words of the sage (even if he was a man!) 'This too shall pass'. Everything does...
ElliotsMummy poor you - I suppose none of the above would help? Grapefruit, oddly enough? It's dismal that the meds aren't helping, though it's good they're taking it seriously. I do hope you avoid being stuck in hospital. Do keep us up to date, am thinking of you.
Cake I know what you mean about exhaust smells lingering, foul. I seemed to smell cigarette smoke on people's clothing across the street, too!Sorry things are not looking up yet. Things will get better for sure, but it seems so long when in thethroes of it.
Cocoanuts Never worry about tmi - no such thing on this thread. Yes, I remember excessive amounts of bile, and wondering if it was the cause of the heartburn. It is truly horrible to bring up, and I do feel for you. Sorry that you are feeling so bad.
NitNat Hurray! I am so glad that woman saw that you are in no state to work as mother hen can see over cyber space, and signed you off. I hope no more stomach lining episodes?
Luce A notice is needed 'Johnny, This is MY bathroom until it becomes BABY'S. You aren't allowed to need it.' lol.
Fluffy LO obviously had a good start, to be thriving so. Those Hyperemesis hormones were fine by him. MaryLou The suspense must be grim, thinking of poor you and LO's had it a long time, poor him too.
Grumblin, LA and Caramel how are things?
Running off for train now, Sorry anyone overlooked. [leaves flapping face]
LucindaE
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Mimatchin try calling www.pregnancysicknesssupport.co.uk on 024 7638 2020. If no-one answers you leave a message and a midwife who specialises in the treatment of pregnancy sickness will call you back. She'll be able to tell you all about which treatments work, and will have information on doctors around the country who are willing to give out anti-emetics without giving you a lecture or fobbing you off. nitnat's right, there are lots of safe treatments, especially now that you're already past 10 weeks.

Also email a lady called Louise on [email protected] She's a hyperemesis survivor who keeps a database of women who've either suffered or know someone who has who are willing to go and befriend other sufferers in their area. If she has a contact in your area, they could come over and help you. I know you said you have some friends but it may help you to have someone who knows from experience exactly what you're going through. If you're anywhere near Birmingham, I'll come over myself.

Nitnat and coconuts, I admire your ability to go into food shops. I tried it today but had to turn round and leave because of the smell.

Cake - sounds like I'm joining you. 6 weeks tomorrow and I'm getting worse. I have managed to avoid throwing up yet but have had a couple of retching incidents this morning. I'm feeling nauseous 24 hours a day and dreading what may be to come next. DH is getting me some nux vomica homeopathic stuff today which I'm going to try out next. I think the stemetil makes me worse... DS is about back to normal so I can't hide behind the stomach bug hope any more.

Elliotsmummy, hope the doctors goes okay today.

Mimatchin, sorry you're suffering too, some good suggestions from MOH though. It's so nice to come on here where people don't think you're making a fuss over nothing. I've just seen Holly Willoughby on the TV and I'm sorry, but she really p'd me off. It's not fair that some people have such an easy time.

Marylou - it isn't so much the food shops it's any shops. As soon as I'm in the enclosed stifled area, that's it. I'm gagging and boaking and tugging at DH saying I need to get out of here. Then I just have to abandon him and leave him to do the shopping. But god help me if I go into a shop that has a cafe attached

Mixture of feelings for tomorrows scan. Part of me can't wait with excitement, the other part is still distancing myself pretending it isn't real in case there isn't anything in there.

lovelybunch, marylou, mimatchin, nitnat, caramel, fluffy, elliotts mummy, ella, la, luce and katy - hello, welcome to the thread newbies, sorry you have to be here! To the fellow sickies how's it going? To HG survivors hello how's life?

nitnat you poor thing, its still going strong eh? I'm really glad they have signed you off.
luce&jonny congrats on the blue bump was grandma happy?
caramel What's happening with you? You've gone quiet!

I haven't been around recently because I've been feeling down and have barely managed to speak to even DH this past few days so didn't want to bring you poor sufferers down with me!

I am back at work It's getting very hard but as I have a mountain of case files I can't really go off long term sick again. I work with children who have complex disabilities (coordinating respite and palliative care for them) so the nature of my job makes me prone to bouts of depression and when I'm in the midst of HG the usual techniques I use to get me back out of the black don't seem as effective. I think when you're physically ill it impacts more than we think on our psychological reserves. I feel so guilty about feeling low when I have two healthy beautiful boys and a healthy bump when I see some of the children I work with but HG is a swine for exposing your most vulnerable side. And breathe.....

There rant over, feel better for just writing that down. Sometimes seeing it in words helps!

hope your scan goes ok lovely, I'm sure it'll take you by surprise when you see your wriggly baby.

marylou know what you mean about women who have easy pregnancies. I used to feel really resentful and jealous when I saw pregnant women looking healthy and getting on with their lives. I know it was wrong, i should have been pleased for them, but I just couldnt help it. I almost couldn't even speak to them. I'm over it now.