New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

Just a quick one whilst enduring delights of the District Line. Added my due date. Def with you Marylou was 2 weeks late 1st time and messages and calls so tedious although reckon (hope) family & friends less obsessed this time round?!?

La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11

We decided to find out sex this time as agree helps get organised; Coconuts we took along DD as hadn't told her until then and she was amazed and delighted by scan process so might work out as well for you (esp as book I read to her about new baby mentions seeing baby at scan).

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts I managed to keep the tablets down, I didn't see them in any vomit. I'm taking Pregnacare which has 10mg of B6. Is that enough?

I took one at Cyclizine at around 12pm and another at 5ish. I threw up a few times. I felt very tired and dizzy but also restless. Also had horrid lump in throat constantly and still felt nauseous. I don't know if I should give them another go. I feel much better when taking the Prochlorperazine. But I still throw up when taking either of the medications..

la I used to have to combine the district, then circle line, then the LLR to Catford on my daily commute. I couldn't cope with the tube with HG in this heat. I'd be flaking out all over the place, how do you do it?

Agbag I'd stick to the Prochlorperazine if you feel better on them. Unfortunately I think you might have to accept that you'll still vomit even with meds-I'm on cyclizine 3 times a day but they haven't stopped mine, I'd say I'm sick on average 2/3 times a day. Once on a good day, more on a bad day. Even Ondasetron didn't completely stem it.

natty Hello! Glad you're still around. Have your work been in touch? Hope they haven't been hassling you although suppose with it coming to the end of the academic year they'll be too busy to annoy you?

Here's my due date added.....oh f**k, I'm due next month! I don't have anything for it to travel in (no car seat), sleep in (no cot), wear (well I have one pack of duck vests) or poo in - I looked at some of those tiny nappies in Tesco the other day and just thought 'Erm no, far too scary.'

Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11

wow this thread moves fast.

congrats to the lady having twins! So exciting! I was kinda hoping for twins as ideally we'd like 3 dcs but i can't face another pregnancy after this one. ds was a nightmare baby though so twins would have been a bad idea for us!

my EDD is 30/11/11 so pretty far down the list. First proper scan 23/5/11 although had one in hospital. HAd a miscarriage in jan though so not getting hopes up til proper scan (weirdly had no sickness at all with miscarriage).

I'm confused about meds at the moment. Hospital gave me ondansetron, metaclopremide and something else which is downstairs (steme something or other). SO confused what to take. Am on Ondansetron 3 times a day as GP said that was non-drowsy and when i was taking metac i was so so zombie like. still taking one or sometimes 2 metac as well as ondansetron. GP said it was fine but so worried about all these in first trimester. Vomiting has stopped though, just get nausea in between doses. Anyone else taken so much so early?

With ds sickness lasted the whole pregnancy so hoping the drugs will continue to help.

hope everyone can look forward to some weekend rest after tomorrow

Can only type with one hand, baby on boob, but just a brief note to say to you agbag - have you considered stopping the Pregnacare? I found the minerals and some of the other things in it very harsh on an empty stomach and it made my nausea & vomitting worse. You can take B6 on its own but might be worth considering seeing if you feel any better without the Pregnacare??

Hey all! Hope today has not been too sicky and meds are staying put.

Grumblin helloooo! Work not been hassling me at all thankfully. I think 'cos it was Occ Health who suggested I not go back to work, they've just accepted it.

More bump-related trauma today. I burnt my bump whilst ironing. I am not normally given to ironing (DH's domain) but felt I should do some as I am now a trainee domestic goddess. However, bump got into the cloud of steam released by the iron whilst on the hot setting and it was just at the right level to get steamed. Ouch.

In other domestic goddess news, I made scones today. Yum. The last time I made them (Dec '10 - the same day I got admitted to hospital - what was I thinking???) the smell of the butter made me puke. But not today! There is life after HG ladies!

Tea is still yak. So disappointing.

Agbag like Caramel I was also ick from pregnacare so just took B6 and hospital gave me super dose of folic acid when on drip. Would try doing without to see if helps any.

Grumblin well don't need much those first few weeks other than boobs and a bed - well nappies prob should be on shopping list! Tube not too bad as just Hammersmith to Richmond then train home to Twickers. Sometimes do bus door to door but only when not in rush to get to work, pick up DD, escape the office...

theonly thanks for tip - seeing GP Mon to see if get another reduced hours note and long days just make me feel worse, esp now with aneamia, so will add to shopping list.

nitnat ouch, poor bump but scones sound great. I'm actually partaking in occassional coffee and find better than tea. Did have argument with waitress though other day telling me I should go for decaf not half-shot - love how everyone feels it ok to express opinions about health when yr pregnant...

Caramel and others past HG sufferers have been meaning to ask. For those who made choice to bf did you have any probs breastfeeding which u thought could be down to lack of nutrition when pregnant?

Hello everyone,

Thanks for all the congratulations, we are definitely happy about twins although jumping from a family of 2 kids to 4 in one birth is going to be a bit scary!

My sickness is changing, I am feeling less nauseous throughout the day (just waves of it at the bad times), but now I'll throw up without warning! My staple diet is sandwiches and apples.

Updated list:

Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11(subject to change), next scan 06/05/11

coconuts My little man is 32months, will be just 3 when baby arrives. We are taking him to the scan and then my mum is taking him home with her as have a consultant appointment after - don't know what this involves as didn't have last time. He is really excited about bump and keeps giving it kisses and hugs and telling the baby "don't wake up too early" when he goes to bed!!
I haven't checked out that thread as just have this page saved on my iPod - haven't really explored much more of mumsnet!

Marylou definitly agree that boys names are harder - we have one we didn't use last time that we still like but that's it. Better get out the 40,001 baby name book!!

AgBag I gave up on the pregnacare weeks ago as never have a full enough stomach - remember taking one on empty stomach last pregnancy (no HG that time) and it made me really sick. So would agree with what people are saying about that.

Nitnat defrost me a couple scones in September please - I'll save some strawberry jam :)

Cake 4 kids does sound scary!!! But at least you have plenty of experience to be able to cope with twins this time round!

Hope everyone is having an ok day so far xx

Never thought I'd be so happy to be reading about vomit...

Thank you everyone, I just discovered this board today, and for the first time in weeks I am no longer questioning my own sanity!

Almost 8 weeks, hoped to be enjoying being pregnant but instead have spent the last 3 weeks puking/wretching/sulking/moaning. Had to stay off work this week and fortunately have got an understanding GP who has immediately prescribed prochlorperazine (although I think my current style of dried out skeleton may have influenced this decision). Dreading the thought of returning to work as the pills aren't the miracle cure I was hoping for, although the vomiting has stopped - hurray! Still feel like I'm battling nausea/smells and desperate to get even a small bit of energy back - even having a shower is the biggest effort and I feel exhausted straight away... Is this all in my head, I have found myself asking...?

Hello all, running in super fast, hi to new people. Will add myself to the list although my due date is a bit weird. My date at the 12 wk scan was 23rd May but then at the 20 wk scan it was put back to 30th May (I'm in Spain and they do that here, apparently not in the UK, the 12 wk is the most accurate and they don't change due dates) but I'm going with the earlier one....cos I wanna get this pregnancy over with!!! Also DS was 4 wk early so reckon I might not go full term this time either, altho I suppose I am pretty full term now anyway.

Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11(subject to change), next scan 06/05/11
Pipoca : EDD 23/05/11 next and final scan 10/05/11

La I didn't have any problems bfing DS and none so far with DD. As soon as they were both born the HG left the building and I could start eating and drinking normally again. I made sure to eat masses of fruit & veg & meat to make up for the diet of crackers and crumpets. After DS I also took some super strength multivits and liquid iron and probiotics to try and replenish all my stores. It's worth paying more for the good ones as some of the cheaper brands are not as easily absorbed and full of fillers. Let me know if you want brands.

Welcome Grohlsgirl and sorry you had to find yourself here. 8/9wks is the worst time for most so hopefully you'll start feeling marginally better soon.

Yes indeed, welcome Grohlsgirl. It's really not in your head! I hit my lowest point at 7 weeks and have to confess that in the 3 days leading up to being hospitalised did not shower at all, and in fact only got out of bed to be sick! Everything seems like a huge effort. But as others have said, even though the sickness might not go away completely, things do tend to improve a bit over time. I'm at 12 weeks tomorrow and on cyclizine, still being sick 1-2 times a day but feeling much less shattered than I did a few weeks back Hang in there :)

Ah thanks MotherOfPearl !

Just so good to know I'm not on my own - so many people seem to have the "it's just morning sickness, get on with it" attitude. And look completely baffled when I mention that the smell of shampoo, or washing powder makes me want to throw up...

Support like this gives me faith in people again :-)

Hi ladies, hope you don't mind me joining you on this thread, I've only just got my BFP this morning so very early days today for me, but having suffered with hyperemesis in my last pregnancy I am very nervous to say the least. I have been feeling sick the last few days and thought I was going down with a bug, but after the BFp this morning I'm now convinced it the morning sickness kicking in early as per my last two pregnancies. I have spoken to my consultant this morning and he's said to see how the weekend goes and if I'm still feel ill next week, to come and see him and will discuss starting drugs before I get in the state i got in last time, which ended up with me being on a drip for 4 days:-(. I have a few questions which not sure if you can help me with

• i've seen some other ladies mentions B6, is there a specific dosage that is recommended?
• anyone had luck with acupuncture? I've been seeing a lovely lady who has treated quite a few ladies for morning sickness, just wondered if anyone else had any luck with acupuncture?
• have you found that the hyperemesis has got worse with each pregnancy? It has so far for me, my first pregnancy was bad but manageable, second pregnancy horrendous, so am worried this third pregnancy will be even worse.

Thanks for any help or advise you can give

Helen :-)

Grohlsgirl my advice is to ignore the 'it's just ms' people and cut yourself as much slack as your lifestyle will allow. Allow all standards of domestic cleanliness and tidyness to fall (and I'm a clean-freak normally, have not ironed anything in weeks, just to the basics). Only do what you need to survive every day. Everything else can wait. If you work, inform your employer asap - as you will see from others' posts, you should get a risk assessment and may be able to work reduced hours.

helenlouisey - I've wondered the same thing about hg getting worse with subsequent pg but don't have a clear answer. This is my 2nd and so far is worse than the 1st time, which was bad enough! Sorry, not very reassuring. I've not tried acupuncture but I think LucindaE and a couple of others did find it very helpful, but I gather you have to do it quite intensively (i.e. a few times each week). I'm not sure about B6 and dosage. When I was hospitalised a few weeks ago I was prescribed 50mg B1 (thiamine) to take once daily with my morning dose of cyclizine. Don't know if it helps but I keep on taking it.

Busy busy here ladies :)

Sorry to see newbies, not much time for a catch up, just poking my head in to arrange the list into order It must be in order haha!!

Pipoca : EDD 23/05/11 next and final scan 10/05/11
Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11(subject to change), next scan 06/05/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11

Coconuts I admire your ordering of the list but don't forget Eggy - have added her below. She's important because she's the only one due after me! ;)

Pipoca : EDD 23/05/11 next and final scan 10/05/11
Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11(subject to change), next scan 06/05/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11
Eggy: EDD is 30/11/11

helenlouisey & grohlsgirl welcome to the thread, rubbish that you have to even look here but we are a very supportive bunch and nothing is too gross to discuss here (remembers foamy vomit/xmas pudding/incontinence on the bathroom lino posts)

grohlsgirl You are def not going mad. It is your body physically reacting to pregnancy and is therefore a physiological NOT a psychological condition. I thought I was cracking up in my first pg - people kept saying 'the sickness will settle soon' It never did and I will not let anyone tell me 'It's just a bit of morning sickness' because I've seen MS in my sister & friends and its NOTHING like HG. Plus the dried out skeleton look is a feature of HG, bloody opposite of blooming.

helenlouisey sorry to be pessimistic but each bout of HG has got worse (on my third pg now). I've been hospitalised with all 3 but this one has definitely been the most debilitating physically & emotionally. I bet you feel like a time bomb waiting to go off don't you? Unmumsnetty hugs for both newbies.

nitnat Steam burned bump? Ouch! Can you get my scone out of the freezer in 6 weeks please, jam & cream & strawberries & butter would be lovely too

la I've just been and done a baby shop - got breast & maternity pads for myself too. I'm scared now Birth is a breeze compared with pregnancy but the pain factor is starting to play on my mind now. Are you hyper organised or are you just doing the laid back 'what will be will be' route?

cake This pg was twins but one didn't make it (we found out at a 10 week scan), we'd have gone from two DC's to 4 too. The thought of 3 is terrifying me (especially if it's another boy!) but 4, wow. I've always wanted a big family but think this is it for me. What have you already got boy/girl wise?

lucinda hope yr enjoying your travels? Everything ok with your mum? You seem to be having to wizz down there recently?

Hi all sorry not been on its been a mad week! Firstly WOW - Cake - TWINS!!! Hugely exciting!!! What a shocker! Congrats bet your off out to get an extra set of everything!

Well had a 4 days, started with having to push the doc hard to give me more drugs and then convince the pharmacist to give them me had to ring doc to check, had run out so by this point would have puked at counter just to get them!

Then second major disaster of week was that we didnt get any of our three school preferences for our son and have been allocated failing nightmare school with horrendus reputation and very large class numbers with a high percentage of children with behavioural and emotional difficulties... 45 children in one room for foundation with 2 teachers and teaching assistant. Not one of his friends has been given this school -the only bad school in the area and we get it. When we looked round we were only there 10 min and 4 boys getting sorted out for fighting and another had been playing truant. Absolutley gutted, DS has been to a lovely small independant pre school and all his friends will be going to other schools out of the 3 we had chosen. These are friends from nursery and from other groups we have been to. 87% of Witney got there first choice, 95% got one of their 3 choices and us 5% on edge of catchment got stuck at crap school, in fact one of our choices is closer all our choices were in catchment we werent stupid and only put ones down we knew we could have a place at we were realistic. Now we have to appeal but have been told we have very little chance of winning because of law enabling only 30 children under the age of 7 to be in an infant class. The school we have been given has a special legal exception to this rule. If we refuse a place they only have to offer us a place somewhere else somewhere in Oxfordshire. Chances of winning appeal are slim, a place may become available at a later date but only may. This choice also means we have no support network when the baby comes to help with school run especially as I suffere with SPD as well as HG and will be having a c-sec. Total nightmare and have spent 4 days on the phone and emailing trying to find out what to do.

So now kanckered and HG has come back with vengance.

Cyclizine definately needs to be stuck at and with routine, I have one on waking one about 12 noon and one about NOW 6pm!! Wondering if I should try the vit b6 now as well as nausea is horrid and just feel like a zombie.

Have meeting tonight about schools and what to do there are 4 of us in this situation and though facebook have decided to meet. Hope I dont puke!

Loving the list!!! So added me!! It reminds us there are babies at the end of this!!

Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11

Hoping everyone is surviving and have a less stressfull week than me. Sorry for my rant but just so god dam angry!

XXX

Looks like I'm not last on the list anymore!

Sickness been good today which makes me worry about baby but hoping it's
tablets and not a sign something is wrong.
Trying to cut down to just ondansetron as still worried about taking 2 lots of drugs
so early in pregnancy. Anyone else been on this before 12 weeks? Hope everyone has
a vom free evening

Pipoca : EDD 23/05/11 next and final scan 10/05/11
Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11(subject to change), next scan 06/05/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11
Eggy: EDD is 30/11/11

Sorry I missed you off Eggy, no idea how I managed that. Have just reordered as you were completely not on th eone that wizz just C&P'd

I take pride in my list making I have many lists at home I have lists about lists and they are all written in the 'list pen' in my 'list handwriting' whereby if I make a mistake I have to start over. If someone else writes on my list I almost have a panic attack. I wonder if anyone else has OCD like me

Eggy - I had good and bad days from about 12 weeks. I'd have a day where I was fine and thought woohoo HG is gone and then I'd panic that I had no symptoms. Next day it came back!

Wizz - bad news on your sons school. I have no idea how this works, but you have my sympathies. My DD will be starting school next Sept (EEK!) so I have all this to look forward to!

Hello to everyone else, hope you are all ok and enjoying the sunshine. Have had another good day. I think I'm on day 5 or 6... Dare you move me forward a space lucinda ?!

oh eggy sorry, following the OCD, I have put in order, but some of the newbies waves like a maniac should be after you?! :)

Also, how many of us are first timers? As most thing I read says its worse with the first but it isnt true here!

Pipoca : EDD 23/05/11 next and final scan 10/05/11
Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11, First timer (eeek)
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11(subject to change), next scan 06/05/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11
Eggy: EDD is 30/11/11

also, how did I get to be so far up the list? this is terrifying as I thought most of you were due before me! argh! Lots of November babies due!

not been too bad the past few days, I have even stomached a protein shake from OH ;) a roast dinner and a 3 course meal out, none of which resulted in puking/gagging. this is progress indeed (waiting for the other side of it now though, I know it will happen!)

hugs to all xxx

ha ha coconuts, remember when Friday nights was for drinking and causing havoc, not re-ordering lists ;) xx

hb - in my prime it was Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays Now I just watch TV and write lists!

I have read it gets worse the more you have. DC2 for me (but 2mcs previously, before DD) No sickness at all with the mcs though.