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New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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grumblinalong · 04/03/2011 17:18

As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future Confused HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks Grin around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

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lottieb22 · 07/05/2011 19:15

Hello All - don't post on here much now. My vomitting stopped at 16 weeks and only have nausea now but I do still look to see how everyone's doing! But couldn't resist adding myself to this list - hope that's ok? My biggest worry now is the enormous baby I seem to be growing! Latest measurements put him on the 125th centile! Amazed after all the vomitting he's grown so big! How will I get him out!!!

Pipoca : EDD 23/05/11 next and final scan 10/05/11
Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
Lottie: EDD 09/07/11 next scan 19/05/11 to check growth!
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11, First timer (eeek)
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11(subject to change), next scan 06/05/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11
Eggy: EDD is 30/11/11

theonlyhb2 · 08/05/2011 08:52

lottie very important you are on the list! means I am a bit further down ;) and gives us all hope that HG can end early, and lovely to know you are so well :)

I went to the pub last night and was speaking to some of the regulars about HG........for some woman to pipe up "you should eat a rich tea biscuit, that will stop you puking"

thank god she didn't say ginger biscuit, or I would have done damage :D

think I am having a good spell again, havent been sick even when brushing teeth, thats 4 days in a row now, I havent brushed them so much for months! amazing.

Grohlsgirl · 08/05/2011 10:54

:-( having a really bad day.

Thought i was doing really well yesterday, managed a "meal" (read: supernoodles) and a piece of cake brought by a well-meaning friend. But then spent the rest of the day battling nausea, indigestion and later, diarrhoea. Feel as though i've hit a real low, cannot seem to find any joy in being pregnant and feel utterly evil for some of the thoughts i'm having. Lost almost a stone now (was already a skinny-minnie anyway) and just feel as though i'm wasting away. Got to see GP tomorrow, but not sure how seriously he'll take me cos i'm no longer vomiting thanks to prochlorperazine.

Sorry for moaning, am at the end of my tether and dont want to complain to my lovely man again.

fluffywhitekittens · 08/05/2011 13:45

Blimey - this thread is expanding!!
I caught up on Thursday, took notes then never got to write anything.
Was just about to start and OH has literally just delivered a crying monkey to the study - typical.
Back soon hopefully.

fluffywhitekittens · 08/05/2011 14:45

Have realised I sound like I have a right grumpy baby - but generally he's very chilled!!
OK - here's hoping I haven't forgotten anybody..
Eggy - I took both ondanestron and metaclompromide (sp) after I came out of hospital for the third time - and I wish I'd had that combination earlier. Once I felt the vomiting was pretty much under control I cut down on the metaclompromide so I was just taking ondansetron. I expect the other med you have is stemetil? I had that first time round with dd and it was OK for me but the ondansetron was def. better.
Agbag - agree with others that multi vitamins aren't always helpful and I had read that iron supplements can make you feel nauseous so didn't bother with them.
NitNat - loving the control room picture and the mental picture of the fish on holiday :) Put me down for scones with jam and I'll provide some clotted cream for those who can stomach it. Yum.
Grumblin - if it's an consolation I have only just sorted out ds's room properly today (well it's nearly finished but I wanted to come back on here). Also had nothing ready for dd as she was 4 weeks early and had only just begun to have the energy to go shopping!
LA I've had no real problems breastfeeding ds. I did have some issues with ds but that was more to do with her being in special care and initially tube fed.
Lottie - I had to have another growth scan with ds, he was on the 80th centile when he was born (I think) and he is now HUGE. I haven't had him weighed recently but he's pretty much wearing 9-12 month clothes and I think he must be around the 90th centile. I guess it's true when they say the hg isn't a problem for the baby!
Littlewizz - sorry you're having school issues, we have our first choice which is the local village primary. It's quite a small year group luckily for us and nearly all of the primary schools in our area are OK. Hopefully you can get something sorted, it must be so stressful for you.
Pipoca - nearly there now :)
Coconuts well done for the list, loving the fact that you and theonly are up on a Friday night ordering.
Grohlsgirl - sorry you have had to join the thread. Feel free to moan as much as you like. The "evil" thoughts are not evil. They are normal. You get pregnant and think it's going to be such a joy and it is a major shock that it can bring you so low. We all understand. We have all been there.
If possible take someone with you to your GP appointment, it can feel like such a battle to be heard especially when you feel so rough and not yourself. Make sure they test your urine for ketones.
Helenlouisey - welcome to you too. Have to say I have had 2 HG pregnancies. I think it was probably worse with the second BUT I seemed to get over the worst a bit earlier. That may have been due to the different meds and I didn't have the stress of worrying about the fact I was missing work. Also I did have acupuncture and it did seem to work for me. Although I couldn't scientifically say if it was that or the meds or a combination. It was however fairly expensive - I had one or two sessions for about 4 weeks I think. Also the acupuncturist himself said there are different versions of acupuncture available.
TheOnly - well done for not lumping the woman in the pub. Also if you need a moses basket, baby bath, top and tail bowl let me know and I can find a time to get them to you.
Waves at Mary Lou, Luce, Motherofpearl, Lucinda and anyone else I may have forgotten.
Right off to hoover ds's room so he can eventually have a room to himself that isn't full of various junk.

MotherofPearl · 08/05/2011 16:13

Hi all, hope everyone has managed to have a relatively vom-free weekend? I had to give a presentation yesterday for work (don't normally work on a Sat) and was so anxious I was going to be sick during it my noise came out all high and weird-sounding! I do lots of speaking to groups (lecturer) so not normally nervous at all, but since the hg get terrified I'm going to have a public vom. Luckily I managed to hold it in until I got home, when I had a couple of voms and a few of those horrible retching/spitting episodes. But the whole thing stressed me out so much I was in bed for 7pm last night, same time as dd! Poor dp all on his own on a Sat night.

Grohlsgirl, you're allowed to moan on here - that's what we're here for! I don't think what you're feeling is abnormal at all. I'm really excited about getting a baby at the end of this, a little sibling for dd, but for obvious reasons I'm loathing being pregnant and like you feel no joy in it at all. I really think that for those of us feeling and being so sick, this is completely normal. As I've said a few times on here before, I feel like every day I'm just doing what I need to in order to survive the day, and then mentally tick the day off and be one day closer to the end! Hope you're feeling a bit better? If not, sounds like you might need different meds/treatment?

MotherofPearl · 08/05/2011 16:43

Littlewizz, meant to say sorry to hear about the school situation - sounds so frustrating and really quite worrying too. DD will go to school next year and like you we'll be really upset if she doesn't get into the same primary that most of her friends will be going to. Hope you manage to get a successful appeal.

johnnyd1 · 08/05/2011 16:44

Hi everyone, haven't posted for a while as thankfully nothing to report!!

Once bile run is completed am now vom free. The only down side is that I am now an eating machine, seriously, can't stop!

Mine finally eased off at around 26 weeks so don't despaire newbies, I was told if it hasn't gone totally by wk 20 you're going to be stuck with it all the way through. Not true in every case!!!

Anyway, congrats to cake on the twins and hugs to everyone still suffering.

Luce
xx

Pipoca : EDD 23/05/11 next and final scan 10/05/11
Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
Lottie: EDD 09/07/11 next scan 19/05/11 to check growth!
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
johnnyd1: EDD 31/07/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11, next scan 25/05/11, First timer (eeek)
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11, next scan 11/05/11
Coconuts: EDD 3/10/11, next scan 20/05/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11(subject to change), next scan 06/05/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11, next scan 16/5/11
Eggy: EDD is 30/11/11

LucindaE · 08/05/2011 17:27

Hi, everyone, back, scrolled through, I hope I don't forget anyone.
HelenLouisy and Grohlsgirl welcome, sorry that you have to join us. As Grumblin says, everyone is very supportive, and no tmi here, oft I have recalled fondly (I don't think) sitting on the loo with liquids coming out of every orifice Shock. Never feel guilty about 'awful' thoughts - just human - and concentrate, as others have said, on getting through each day as it comes and with luck, it will be a lot better soon. Good luck for doctors, Grohlsgirl. Have you got kesosticks for testing urine if sickness gets bad again? I do hope you both find meds to help.
I was, like Fluffy helped verymuch by Acupunture, I was, as I have often said, a wreck when I staggered into the surgery and the man said that if the vomiting didn't stop in hours as my GP was so unsymapthetic to bypass him and go to Aand E for rehydration, but it did stop, for which I can never be sufficiently grateful, and after going several times a week for the first month and then gradually trailing off, I was much better by week 12 and only suffring from residual heartburn from week 14 on. It was horrifically expensive.
Luce I am so glad that it has turned into one bile run -doesn't it sound sad saying that, most people think that's awful - at 26 weeks, and you are [looks about anxiously face] enjoying eating. Move forward four places.
TheOnly and for you!
Pearl I am terrified of public speaking without Hyperemesis - used to have to do it as a union rep, hated it, goodness the thought of a PUblic Puking Performance must have been alarming. Contratulations on getting through it!
How are you today?
Pipoca Very soon for you, then! How are things generally?
Caramel Great to hear from you, and Hyperemesis veteran and always lovely.
Grumblin Sweet of you to be concerned about me in the midst of a/Hyperemesis throughout preganncy
b/ working
c/ two other kids
Sadly, you are right, my mother is in bad health and has become househound due to an unusual condition of the spine that appeared to be normal for years, and then led to her developing dropped feet. However, the visits were due to some boring family business that had to be sorted out, so nothing alarming going on. Thanks for thinking of me, cyber hugs to you!
How are you? I do hope not constantly nauseated? Re; pain, I am keeping my fingers crossed you have a birth like Caramel's. You deserve it!
NitNat How are you doing?
Eggy Try not to worry, Hyperemesis sufferers seem to have this - the minute the sickness decreases and/or they have that first good day, they think it means something sinister, but it almost never does!
Wizz Really sorry about school news,and coming now, of all times.
Cocoanuts Cake How are things?
Fluffy Waves to cushioned rest area suitable for mums with one toddler and one baby.
LucindaE
xx

ElliottsMummy · 08/05/2011 17:47

Hi all, just popped in to say hope everyone is having an ok day today. Welcome to the newbies - sorry u have to join us but dont worry about popping on for a moan - we are all here to support each other through this.

Getting my things ready for back to work tomorrow, got out my faithful black trousers earlier but, even after losing a stone and a half in the 11 weeks since I wore them last, they are not gona work!! My bump has gone crazy in the last few weeks but luckily managed to find a pair of maternity ones from last time that will be ok! Phew!!

Anyone have any tips on things that have helped them when working? Not too worried bout being sick as am only being sick in the evenings currently, but have to eat as soon as I feel grotty and sometimes feels like I'm eating all day! So gona set up an emergency biscuit box in my office I think :)

LucindaE · 08/05/2011 18:04

ElliotsMummy Best of luck for work tommorow. I'm glad the vom isn't at that time of day! What do you think of soda bread or buttered cream crackers? Those became two of my staples but not everyone finds them bearable. There isn't a toaster there for unhealthy white sliced toast, by any chance?
LucindaE
xx

LucindaE · 09/05/2011 09:26

Lottie I forgot to say, I am so happy no vomiting and that you still keep up with the Thread that Would Horrify the Squeamish. What do you mean, is it all right to add baby's due date to list when you are a veteran! Best of luck with birth, my goodness, he sounds like a whopper, ouch, but you have had three already, so I hope that will help?
Agbag Nothing from you of late. Are you OK?
MaryLou How is that dismal nausea?
Everyone How are things? Still delighted about Cakes twins...
LucindaE
xx

Grohlsgirl · 09/05/2011 11:57

Ah thank you lucinda fluffy and pearl (and everyone else for support too!)

Saw gp this morning after worst ever vomiting last night and first thing today. His initial reaction was to admit me, but being a nurse i'm afraid i argued the toss and instead he contacted the consultant obstetrician for advice. They said there are a few meds to try so now on cyclizine, along with strict instructions about monitoring my fluid intake and a direct line to the gp should i get worse in next 2 days! Also just hearing him say "it's definitely hyperemesis" has made me feel so much better rather than me beating myself up for not coping with ms!

The advice to take each day as it comes has been invaluable - also helped me talk things over with DP who was amazing - he'a decided that hyperemesis gravidarum sounds like an evil spell from Harry Potter...

Got my fingers crossed for a relatively puke free day, hope everyone else manages ok too xxx

BTW my EDD is 17/2011 although knowing my luck Bean will arrive on my birthday on the 19th!

MOH100 · 09/05/2011 12:54

I wrote to mumsnet towers a while ago to ask about adding something to their hyperemesis page www.mumsnet.com/pregnancy/hyperemesis. i don't know if any of you have read it, it's got a good attitude as it takes it seriously and they've got some information about it but I don't think its as helpful as it could be. I'm concerned that it's thin on proper advice but full of negatives, if I was suffering with HG, didn't know anything else about and came across this I think i'd just want to kill myself.

I also think that there should be some different comments from sufferers - if you look at the mumsnet page, there are some quotes of advice from sufferers but they're mostly quite negative, a bit irrelevant and I think the list of good and bad things to throw up somehow trivialises the condition as it looks a bit jokey. We need some better quotes and some positive ones from those of us who have actually managed to get some effective treatment.

I've written something that I think they should add, if any of you are up to it, could you give it a read (see below) and make comments and tell me if there's anything I've missed.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?

If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php
Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?

There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?

Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.
Will my baby be ok?

Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine and there is no known risk of birth defects. We are designed to produce healthy babies even when we ourselves are undernourished - the baby will be fine even though the mother herself may suffer. However, you should realise that there is growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers with HG. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and osteporosis.

What are the treatments?

Initially you can be prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For some women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and many can return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.
Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be just as bad?

Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?

Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Useful sources of information

The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.

Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Sufferers are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 09/05/2011 15:11

MOH - that is fantastic. You wrote all of that? Perhaps a link to the chat board could be in there somewhere. Perhaps incorporating it into the FAQ section:

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?

Perhaps list some support groups as you have above and also say something along the lines of there being a support thread here with women who have suffered and are suffering with a wealth of information and advice.

Or something like that. I'm pretty rubbish at writing things so I won't add anything official, perhaps you could add it in if you agree?

really great of you for writing to MNHQ, I haven't looked at the advice page they have, I will go over there now and have a nosey.

Here's hoping they change things for the better :)

MOH100 · 09/05/2011 16:07

thanks coconuts, good idea, will do.

grandmaagain · 09/05/2011 16:24

MOH well done! that is a fabulous piece of work and should be required reading for every GP and midwife in the country! on behalf of my DD( who has been helped so much by this site and) and me( who knew nothing about how to help her til I came here )thank you for all your hard work and your dedication to helping others you really are a star have this on meWine

MOH100 · 09/05/2011 17:03

thanks grandma, i'll have that drink tonight once DD is tucked up in bed.

MotherofPearl · 09/05/2011 20:53

MOH, that's brilliant, and much better than what's on there already. I wish I'd been able to read what you've written about 5 weeks again when I was at my lowest point, couldn't even keep a glass of water down and didn't know what to do with myself. You should show the MN HQ person our comments to back up your suggested new hg material for the website. :)

Grohlsgirl, so glad to hear you've had some sympathetic and appropriate medical intervention, and pleased to hear you sounding a little better. Long may it last! I have found cyclizine great at keeping most of the nausea and voms away - I'm down to just 1-2 a day now.

LucindaE, thanks for asking, I'm feeling better now that that talk is over. Have to be away for work quite a bit this week, so will be a test of how well I can cope. Think I'll be OK with my trusty cyclizine by my side!

Hope everyone else is doing alright :)

MotherofPearl · 09/05/2011 20:54

BTW, I meant 'ago' not 'again in first sentence of my post above!

nitnatnaboo · 10/05/2011 11:07

Hi all,

MOH100 Love the text! You've put so much info on there. You see so many people posting on here with ridiculous levels of nausea/sickness and they have no idea what to do, so this would really help them.
Grohlsgirl glad you got listened to at the GP. I actually liked hospital! Maybe as a nurse you have insider knowledge which puts you off?!! I also recommend cyclizine for stopping 24/7 nausea (I still vomited about 2-3 times a day) but it will make you sleep A LOT at first.
Hope Caramel is doing well with Scarlett
Lucinda sorry to hear about your mum being poorly. What about adding your top tips for eating/drinking (apart from snail tea)/acupunture to MOH's text?

Everyone else - hope you are having a good day?

I had a strange week last week - kept sleeping for hours at a time in the day (nearly missed picking DS up from school one day, after having fallen asleep at 11.30 am). Then threw a very nice tea up on Saturday night and currently having to be really careful not to eat too much too quickly, especially pasta and spuds. Morning retching has returned and feeling sick when have empty stomach. Think hormones are to blame as bump is expanding daily. Hope it goes away as don't want to spend last weeks puking/weeing everywhere. Grin

LucindaE · 10/05/2011 12:49

MOH That is a wonderful informative piece of writing. Really needed! Yes, NitNat has something there, I think, would you mind if I added bits about suggesting Acupunture, as it helped Fluffy and myself so strikingly and has helped many others, even if not to the same extent? Also about food tips- so many people assume that when women with Hyperemesis drink coke, Lucozade and other sweet rubbish and nibble crisps that they are bringing it on themselves by an unhealthy diet, not that they are taking the only form of liquids and nurishmnet likely to stay down, which for some reason tend to be sweet or salty. Jelly with tinned fruit, ice lollies, all these things can help and it might be valuable for me to add them?
NitNat That was a geat idea about extra tips. Really sorry nausea bile runs are back Sad - that old Hyperemesis doesn't want to let you go - and so uncomfortable being sick with a 'great belly' getting in the way. Thanks for sympathy re mother - she's been housebound for years now, sadly.

Pearl I am glad things are a bit better. Cocoanuts things are on the up, gradually.
Grandma Not long now till that Grandson appears...
Everyone look after yourselves, keep as hydrated as you can in this warm weather. Grumblin thinking of you, replied in full further down.
LucindaE
xx

LucindaE · 10/05/2011 13:15

MOH (contratulations again!) and NitNat re below, what do you think of: -

'For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated.

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and unfortunately women often need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time.

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive.

There is a support thread on Mumsnet - search for 'Hyperemesis Support' run by sufferers and ex-sufferers that may be of help to you.

Not sure what people think? -

LucindaE
xx

theonlyhb2 · 10/05/2011 15:05

MOH - great bit of work there! i wish I had read that HER link for HG or MS right at the start - definite HG!

Lucinda - very very true about the sweet/salty foods, thats a good bit of writing there, you are at a bit of a loss as to what to do and all you read is caffine is bad, sugar is evil, and we should be living on fruit and veg ( which = puke city for me!)

I had a full fat coke with a Sausage & Egg McMuffin for breakfast - very unhealthy but I felt better than just having cereal! I also seem to put more salt than normal on chips since pregnant (I used a lot anyway, OH is having to stop me now).

I feel like I may be tempting fate by typing this......but I havent actually been sick since last Wednesday lunch time. Not even a morning bile run, or bought on from brushing teeth. 6 days vom free! A new record. I have felt pretty shitty and bloody tired (as per), and still have anti-sickness as night (it does help me sleep) but its pretty amazing that I have brushed my teeth so much! Am 26 weeks today :)

I really feel for all of our newbies :( its already easy to forget how hellish the beginning can be now the worst of it is over. It is the most depressing time, so I hope you all come here and moan and get support as its what will get you thru. xxx

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 10/05/2011 16:39

Hi all,

bit of a strange week for me. No cyclizine needed at all now but am so constipated it is making me feel so sluggish, heavy and nauseous. If I manage to poo my nausea goes away Sad I hate this feeling. Am supping fybogel like there's no tomorrow, but it is really rather revolting.

On a plus note am manging to brush teeth much better and am back to using my listerine :)

Started feeling some proper kicks... 10 days to go... :)

Lucinda - good writing there regarding the foods definitely true for me. Salt and vinegar crisps, extra S&V on chips, tangy things like salad cream and sweet lemonade were a staple for me at one point.

hb - the beginning is defintiely the most lonely and depressing time. Comparing how I feel now to how I felt at 7/8/9/10 weeks it's like I'm a different person. Hope it stays away for the forseeable.

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