New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

Hey all, hope you've all had a good time over these past holiday weekends. Sorry not been on much but have been stuck in an acid reflux v's nausea and vomitting face off! And trying to sell & buy a house in the process.

Pattern at the moment is wake up in morning to bile run, then have to eat or feel horrendous, then when I eat or drink anything I get terrible reflux then I'm sick again, then I'm hungry again and so on until I'm a heap at the end of the day. Only have 8 working days until I start my ML though hallelujah!

hb how's it going, has HG reared its ugly head for good then?

wizz How many weeks are you now? fingers crossed that its abaiting.

elliotsmummy How long have you left to go?

pipoca I have 7 weeks left but keep thinking 'this is it' as the baby seems to enjoy pushing down with its feet so its head strikes my pelvis. Neither DS1 or 2 did this so it's been interesting. DH keeps asking if the baby is diving again!

Lucinda Think I need some of your mint tea, apparently its good for heartburn but the smell/taste is not something I'm good with.

Hope nitnat, luce, boo, coconuts and everyone is ok. Any caramel news? I want to know if the new baby is good as payback for being naughty in utero

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Grumblin, only 7 weeks left! that will fly by!

4am puking this morning (i knew I ate too much last night to be able to digest!) then realised I had to go to work later on as I forgot to order stuff for a USA exhibition that starts tomorrow (so busy as on my own in office last week and with head down toilet for a lot of it). I did tell one of the managers my mistake and he was cool with it, and I also said that I can no longer cope working on my own for more than a day and that working makes me puke a lot as it makes me so tired......i have admitted defeat.

saying that, kept the McD lunch down, not felt too bad since being home, but dreading this week at work :(

I think caramel is currently downing cups of tea and all food she can find in a 25 mile radius ;)

Hi all, not been on here for a while, have been on a little holiday in rural Scotland. Went OK but couldn't do very much for obvious reasons, other than lie in the sun in the garden. Stupidly chose one of the travelling days to attempt not taking cyclizine and ended up on the side of the road, kneeling in the grass, being horribly sick. Dignified. Will keep on with the meds I reckon. LucindaE, in response to your question a page or so ago, yes, I found the jelly and tinned fruit most acceptable. Nice and cooling and bland.

Welcome back, Pipoca Grumblin and Mother of Pearl. Lovely to hear how you are. PipocaThirty-seven weeks, wow! You are nearly there, and sensible to keep on with a drug that helps and is known to be safe... Mother of Pearl Glad about the jelly and tinned fruit, sad about the Puking on Grass Verge - . Grumblin Oh dear, puking, nausea AND heartburn - that is so horrible. One of those by itself would be bad enough...Re: the mint tea, I didn't like the ready done stuff, it was the picked fresh stuff that helped. Thank goodness your ml is due to start. Does anything help? You must be really exhausted.
TheOnly I think you are so right to 'admit defeat'. You have to put yourself and baby first.
ElliottsMummy I am so glad you are a lot better.
Fluffy That sounds lovely...
LA NitNat Cocoanuts Cake Luce Agbag and All Impolitely not mentioned I hope you are doing OK.
Yes, I do hope Caramel has an angelic baby...
LucindaE
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Hi all, had a bad few days with a rotten cold combined with the nausea. I've now learned that blocked nose and vomiting = choking! Not much fun.

I too have been finding jelly and fruit one of the few foods I 'enjoy' eating now.

Can anyone advise how much of a B6 supplement we should be taking?

I'm still taking Prochlorperazine 5mg 3times a day, feeling better, but still being sick. I'm 16 weeks today and really hoping its going to stop soon.
Does anyone else have experience of Prochlorperazine? I was told to take it 3 times a day, but I wasn't sure if that means meal times? or during the night too, does anyone know?

Sorry for all the questions. I think its great how supportive you all are of everyone else's problems. I'm afraid I'm struggling to keep up with everyone on this thread, but I hope you are all going to have a good week this week!

Ok! The planets have aligned! DS and DD are asleep, at the same time, and my DH is not home so I can sneak onto mumsnet for an update. I know, I know, I should be sleeping but I had to make a cup of tea and pop my head in to see how everyone is doing.

On the tea discussion, I have been mad for it since DD made her appearance. All I want is tea and chocolate.

So, rewind to the birth details for those that asked! I called my little girl Scarlett and she was 2.99kgs, 6lbs7oz. Contractions started around midnight/1am Wednesday morning and were 3mins apart by 9am. Got to the birth centre and into the room with the glorious birth pool by 10:30am. Hopped in the pool around 12:30pm and she was born at 2:17pm. No pain relief...not asking for a medal though, I just kind of forgot there were other options and thought I would need to save the hard drugs for later when things got worse, not expecting it to be so quick. I think at one point when I started pushing I thought about gas & air but then thought I should save it for the crowning and by the time I got to that I was too busy concentrating on getting her out to ask for it. Was home in bed 7hrs after she was born. Heavenly! This must be the reward for HG second time round!

Is she angelic? She is super chilled...in the day . No, really, she is very good. Sleeps all day, likes to be on the boob if she's awake. Is still learning that nightime mummy likes to sleep . I had forgotten how much newborn babies sleep. None of this one nap a day lark like DS.

As for the HG? But a distant memory. Hoorah! I have very little appetite though...apart from previously mentioned urge to drink tea and chomp chocolate. Am guessing it will return slowly though??

Pipoca, hello! Not long to go now and you'll be on the other side with me and Fluffy with babies in arms. Grumblin hope the heartburn has settled and that ml is helping. So vile to have heartburn and mean after suffering HG. theonly I think just being at home helps with the HG. I always found I didn't feel anywhere near as bad knowing I had my bathroom close by and could access ice cold water/juice/tipple of the day when needed. Rest up.

So many more people to mention but little Scarlett has just woken and I can't bear to miss out on giving her a cuddle while her big brother sleeps. I'm thinking of you all and am following if not posting every day xxx

Hi all again,

caramellokoalalover - your account of giving birth sounds wonderful, I hope mine will be as smooth, this is my first pregnancy.

I have some more questions to add to my previous post... sorry for all the questions..

I've not been to hospital with my HG but I feel so crap sometimes I wonder if I went to A&E if I'd get taken more seriously. I'm still losing weight at 16weeks and am worried that I'm not getting any nutrition. I vomit after every meal so am not keeping anything down. I'm managing to drink small amounts, but I'm definitely not going to the loo much and my urine is dark in colour. I mentioned to my GP that I'd heard accounts of people feeling much better after being put on a drip in hospital, so I asked if I could have one. He didn't take me at all seriously.
How do you get a drip to make you feel better? Am I no way near as ill as other women with HG? Is there a line? How do I know if i'm bad enough to go to hospital. I"m sorry if these sound like stupid questions, perhaps its obvious when you get to that state and I"m no way near it... I have no idea,... but I feel dreadful.

agbag I've been hospitalised with all 3 because I was severely dehydrated and once when I had a mallory weiss tear. Does your GP look at your tongue, test your urine, take your BP, and check your eye sockets at your appointments? These all show severe dehydration, get some ketostix and test your urine yourself, if you are 3 +++ then go to the GP or A&E and tell them. I couldn't physically get up once when pg with DS2 and left it far too long before my DH dragged me to hospital, all my veins had collapsed and they had to get an anaethetist to put my drip in because my veins were impossible. I was prescribed Prochlorperazine early on in this pg and it did nothing. Have you asked your GP to change your meds? Try cyclizine as they'll be happy to prescribe (it's cheap) Ondansetron is the last line treatment but you have to battle to get it prescribed because it's £££.

caramel Aw, you've made me look forward to having a baby around now! Your birth story sounds lovely, was the water good then? Did you tear? I want to try a water birth this time to try prevent the bloody stitches.

hb You were right about her downing the tea! I craved chocolate after birth too caramel, can't stomach it now. HB can you not go on the sick for a bit? I know its guilt inducing but in the long run it will save you so much stress.

lucinda off to ring my MIL now to ask her to pick me some mint out of her garden. The teabags didn't help but fresh stuff might.

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Hi grumblinalong. No the GP hasn't done any of those tests! All he did was feel my tummy. I'll try and get those ketostix. I had to give blood for the downs test at my 12 week scan during which they had a real problem because my veins had collapsed. I didn't realise that was a sign. My GP seems to not take me seriously. I'll try and get these sticks. Thank you. I was started on Avomine (for travel sickness), am now on Prochlorperazine. I asked the GP about Ondansetron but he looked it up in his book-thing which said it wasnt suitable for pregnancy so he said he'd not be happy giving it to me.
Thanks for your help.

AgBag Ondansetron is a bit controversial in the UK as obviously they don't test meds on pg women so no drugs are deemed 'suitable' for pregnancy. However, I was prescribed Ondansetron in this pg but it gave me bowel problems, other women on here have had no problems with it. In the US and Australia it is commonly used to treat HG. It's called Zofran over there and can be given as wafers, injections or tablets. Is this your first pg?

Unfortunately the medical profession are quite uninformed about HG-especially your average GP. I've had HG 3 times and know alot about it so if they try to fob me off I don't let them because I have more knowledge than them. Do you have a partner/friend who could attend your appointments with you? You might feel more confident with someone who knows you there.

Yes this is my first pregnancy. Yes I took my husband to the last Drs appointment when the GP swapped the medication (- thats when I plucked up the courage to ask for a drip!) I've sent him out to get those stix.

I do feel better on the Prochlorperazine, but I'm still being sick (5 times today so far). Is it fair to expect an anti-sickness medication to actually stop me vomiting? or is it only meant to stop the feeling of nausea?

Sorry for all the questions... I really appreciate your help

caramel, your post brought a tear to my eye! Scarlett is a beautiful name (and on my list :)) and I am so pleased you are getting lots of tea and chocolate....what else could you possibly want!!

agbag, i feel for you, I really do! its so frustrating. go to a&e (preferably after puking and not having drunk any water) and get a proper check over. there are lots more tablets they can try, you don't have to suffer :)

I sacked off work today (naughtY!) I knew it would be busy and I felt rough plus constipation hit and I didnt fancy puking or pooing when my office is full of sales people. I dont mind if its just 2/3 of us there as they used to it now ha ha ha. I am going to insist my risk assessment is done, and cut my hours to 4 or 5 a day.

hugs to all xxxx

I just used the ketostix on your recommendation and got 1+, so I guess I'm not that bad. I do feel better than I did a couple of weeks ago. It worries me that I'm at 16 weeks and still losing weight. I've lost about 7lbs in total. I'll go to the GP tomorrow and see if I can change my medication. Is it fair to expect a medication to stop vomiting all together? or just something that improves the feelings of nausea?

i went thru 4 different ones til I found one that worked, but even then that was 3 a day, staying in bed so i could keep some food and water down (at its worst) and now when I have bad days it fully does the trick.

I found cyclizine was no help to me at all, and Phenergan (promethazine) worked the best (plus they make me sleepy and I get to sleep for 5 hours in a row at night after taking one....its amazing!)

i think on the first page (deffo somewhere in this thread) is lots of links and things to take/bring up with your Dr to be taken seriously, you do have to be tough, can someone go with you for moral support? They are less likely to poo-poo it when someone is there holding you up. Take your wee stick as well, and do one before the dr's too (and take a bottle of wee if you can to be prepared).

on the upside, just think of the extra cake you can allow yourself to eat (when you can!) with the weight loss ;)

Hello everyone!
Agbag so sorry that you are getting so little sympathy from GP, so glad you got kesosticks advice, I didn't stand up enough to my GP either and he didin't test my urine so I ended up going to an Acupunturist in a state of collapse, but it is awful that years later your doctor is no better. The Acupunture really helped me,but it does seem to vary from woman to woman. I can only second what others say about watching out for that dehydration and particularly if you have 'coffee grounds' brown bits in vomit, do treat that as a medial emergency, as it was for NitNat back on the old thread, being blood from the stomach. Sorry to say, 'have you tried...' but are ice lollies any good, or frozen ice cubes of coke, or ice cubes, or Lucoade, Ironbru, Dr Pepper, etc?
It is worrying about not eating, but it is amazing how the baby thrives if you are able to retain enough fluids. Can you bear crisps or any form of potato?
I'm glad that you are finding the jelly and tinned fruit soothing, at all events.
Caramel Wow! The water birth you wanted - no pain killers, you brave thing, and a perfect sized baby. Agree Scarlett is a lovely name, shades of a belle, eh? Enjoy all that tea and chocolate. I'm glad she is good, too, you deserve it after that awful pregnancy.
TheOnly Good luck with 'risk assessment' whatever that may be - my ignorance is limitless. I do hope you get really easy hours...
Grumblin Still shocked that things are still so bad for you. Vile bile runs and nasty nausea is just not fair at this late stage. Collapsed veins that time sounds terrifying. You are one veteran, for sure...Good luck with that fresh mint tea, I found it so soothing...Avoid snails!
Cocoanuts Cake NitNat Luce Pipoca I hope you are a lot better> Things were looking up for ElliottsMummy and La when last I contact, and at least with Cocoanuts there had been the start of good days, which is so often the turning point.
Cyber hugs to all who want them.
LucindaE
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Mother of Pearl I didn't say, 'how are you today?' so sorry!
LucindaE
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Thanks for asking after me Lucinda :) Am gradually having more and more good days than bad. trying to keep remembering my vitamins is hard, and even harder to swallow once I do remember. Or I find I remember them when feeling nauseous so decide to wait til 'later', and 'later' never comes!

Another day today with no cyclizine, same yesterday and just one at lunchtime Sunday. Have been busy gardening today and think I have done too much so hopefully an early night and a lay in will ensure tomorrow can be a drug free day too.... here's hoping :)

Am having my hair done tomorrow too so a nice bit of pampering will be lovely :)

caramello Your birth sounds amazing, and lovely name. Scarlett would be on my list if it weren't for my weird surname which it doesn't go with. Boo to you DH! I really want to try and go drug free this time, although when the time comes and I remember how painful it is I may change my mind! And such a tiny baby you had

agbag Definitely push and push for meds that work. I was lucky in that what I was prescribed worked brilliantly first time. I remember taking my first ever cyclizine and after an hour I was raiding the cupboards and drinking fluids that I hadn't touched for days on end! When I was admitted to hospital I was at 2++.

I second the lollies, I lived on them for a while. Ice cubes, tinned fruit, anything ready to eat. I really struggled to prepare food, even stuff as simple as a sandwich for DD, so found things that were ready to eat were much easier to tolerate than cooking. Crisps, oven chips, a slice of cucumber, fruit I could only eat if it came out of a fruit salad pot from Tesco. I couldn't just pick up an apple it had to be ready sliced Drink wise I went for lemonade and watery hot chocolate, never tap water vom, and now can drink flavoured bottled water. At one point I didn't drink anything other than Sunny D for about a week, that was the same week I was taken into hospital so I don't recommend sunny D!

Rest, rest and more rest is also the key to success. Easier said than done for some but try as much as your lifestyle will allow.

I also lost about 7lbs. Am now 18 weeks and in about 3 weeks I have gained it back and some more and now weigh about 5lb more than my weight at the beginning.

This is not 'just morning sickness' it is a medical condition which takes away all essence of normal life, we don't deserve to be this ill and who would have thought doing something as amazing as growing a baby could make you feel like you're going to die.

Thanks LucindaE, today has been a pretty good day - just 2 retching sessions and one vomit! This is the latest I have stayed up for ages and I'm feeling a tiny bit more energetic than I was before, so that's encouraging. I was going to bed at 8 or even 7pm at one stage! Poor you AgBag, sounds like you've been having a very rough time. I honestly don't think that those who have not experienced hg realise how awful and debilitating and depressing it is, so you really have our sympathy on here. I find it really helps being in contact with others in the same boat.

I know it can get trying when people suggest lots of different things, but something I have found very helpful is drinking very weak lemon barley with lots of ice, especially sipping it through a straw. Hope you find something to give you some relief. I've been on cyclizine since week 7 (week 11 now) and find it quite good at suppressing the nausea and at least some of the sickness, although it seems slightly less effective now than at first (although guess I was starting from a very low base).

Crikey been awhile & not been keeping up and sorry more newbies but glad you found the thread. Never tmi and always sympathetic mouse :)

Been feeling pretty good until last week (so thankful of at least 2 weeks of bit more energy, less nausea and ability to eat a bit of Easter choc!) GTT was yuk but not as bad as thought and results fine but bloods showed v low iron levels. So tired and breathless and tablets making me really nauseous again and threw up last night, 1st time for ages :( At 30 weeks though have finally gained back the 18lbs lost - hurrah!

Caramel you sound so happy and birth sounded great, enjoy those cuddles with Scarlett :). Pretty sure not gonna be able to have pool birth due to EDS but have appt with obs to discuss at week 34 so have time to get used to idea this time round if not.

Grumblin home run now, so sorry you're still suffering though, bet yr looking fwd to ML?

Agbag it's so crappy feeling this way but do keep checking ketones. I was admitted 1st time with 2+++ after dropping 10lbs in 2 weeks and drip really helped. Like all have said rest is the best thing so try to when you can.

Theonly after spending £40 on maternity maxi dress from ASOS went Primark route too and fab as soo long no prob covering bump ;)

Nitnat how was hol, feeling better??

Coconuts & Pearl glad yr feeling some improvement x
Lucinda so nice of you to keep checking in on us all :)

To all others not mentioned in thoughts and hope slim chance of you enjoying warm weather...

Hi ladies

wonder if i could join. Am 10 weeks pregnant with second child. With ds had terrible hg, and it's really kicked in again this time. Was admited to hospital for rehydration at the weekend, and now on a tablet cocktail. Feeling pretty down about it - tablets making me exhausted and sleepy, and still feeling sick even with them, although thankfully not being sick now.

just be nice to chat to other people in t he same boat - it can feel so isolating!

Eggy welcome to thread, you will find lots of support from the lovely women on here. Not a thread anyone wants to need, but everyone somehow manages to have a laugh, regardless...Virtual rest room on offer, and pairs of hands to wait on you, as in The Beauty and the Beast. Sorry about admission and your feeling to exhausted and down. I am sure the redhydration helped a bit, though. Lots of the women say that they find the 'zombie' effect of the drugs cocktail wears off, thankfully. It is dreadfully isolating.
I think ten weeks is the low point for most people . Did your sufferings peak at any point last time? Hate to say, 'have your tried' but what do you think of jelly (perhaps with tinned fruit set in it) sips of coke, ice lollies, ice cubes, nibbles of salty crisps? I used to drink the juice from the tinned fruit, talk about unhealthy, but the sweet unhealthiness seemed to be just the thing. Ironbru, Dr Pepper or Lucozade? Some people swear by apple juice or grapefruits? Remember the words of the Easter sage (even if he was a man) 'this too will pass' as it will. It has just done for Caramel!
LA lovely to hear from you, 30 weeks - the home stretch - do you waddle well now? Sorry about return puke, I hope it was a one off.
Agbag How did things go with GP? How are you?
*Pearl Glad some improvement - straws?! How could I have forgotten!
NitNat Holiday? Tell us all...
Cocoanuts I am so glad that there are more good days now. The trend, hopefully, is on the up (prepares so move figurine two places forward on board).
TheOnly risk assessment.
Grumblin It is soon going to be a 'happy memory' (I don't think) for you.
Someone mentioned difficulties in not peeing on bathroom floor when puking. My goodness, I wet that floor so often, well, 'LucindaE' and 'can't take a puke without hving a pee' rhymes...
anyone rudely not mentioned I have to run to catch train now, but I hope all are having a bearable day.
LucindaE
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eggy, welcome! I wouldnt survive without this little group, and Mother Hen Lucinda looks after us all well, with comfy sofas, cushions and supplies of tena lady ;)

I am 25 weeks now! How did I get to be so far gone? We bought a pack of nappies yesterday, our first baby related purchase (and now we are both freaking out again! a baby! argh!)

Well, I have done my risk assessment. its truly ridic really, they should have done this AGES ago but in some ways, its good its being done now as I have admitted defeat........anyway, I thought I would put a bit of mine on here as I thought it may help some of you when having to do one.

^Manual Handling.

Sam has completed her manual handling training.

As she is pregnant, she must take extra care when handling objects, especially as she is suffering from lower back pain & shoulder pain and seeing the physio. She must not lift any heavy or awkward items and she must not carry any items up or down stairs.

If Sam needs to move anything of significant weight she must ask for help. Sam will need help with arranging exhibition equipment/stands to go out as will be unable to pack/unpack or move a lot of the items on her own.

Physical or Mental Pressures.

Sam may find that being pregnant affects the way in which she can cope with the stresses of her job. If she is feeling at all stressed she must tell her manager.

Sam is now unable to cope in the office on her own for more than 1 day. If Sam is to be in the office for more than 1 day on her own, then James will either come into the Cambridge office to support, or arrange to help answering telephones and raising orders from the London office.

John should talk to Sam regularly to make sure that we are not overburdening Sam during her maternity. We must accept that Sam?s productivity will fall from her normal levels.

Sam must take time to attend her antenatal appointments (23rd & 30th June) and she should not feel that she has to juggle these to fit in with her work.

VDU?s

Some pregnant women may experience problems with their hands (carpal tunnel syndrome www.bupa.co.uk/individuals/health-information/directory/c/carpal-tunnel ) if they do a large amount of typing. They may also suffer back pains if sitting for prolonged periods at a PC. Sam is currently suffering from both of these, and is seeing a physio.

Sam must ensure that she is comfortable at her PC, with her chair and PC adjusted correctly. If she needs help with this she should ask John or Sophie.

Sam should take regular breaks away from her PC.

General.

Sam is currently working reduced hours because of suffering with hyperemesis gravidarum (my.opera.com/muzammil707/blog/2008/07/10/hyperemesis-gravidarum). Sam is still taking anti-sickness tablets, mainly at night (as these make her drowsy) and these are helping the worst of the symptoms. However, Sam is still suffering and is finding some days difficult at work, due to the extreme tiredness which then leads to vomiting. There are days when Sam will not be able to work because of HG, or will need to reduce working hours further on some days. Sam is keeping a timesheet of the hours she is working and sending this to Sophie each month.^

So there we are.....I have admitted defeat to HG. Working is DEFFO the problem as I puked about 2 hours ago, for NO reason!

OOOOO I have a new craving! Cereal! Specifically the variety boxes you get for kids. I don't even like rice krispies normally, let alone other cereal, but I am becoming obsessed with them.

Hugs to you all xxxx

I've had my dating scan.

TWINS!

I'm not kidding.

:O :O :O

Not what you were, expecting, Cake?! Congrats though! At least you are so sick as there are 2 of them in there! Oh this is exciting news though :)

Hi All, Thank you so much for your supportive (and informative!) comments, this thread has been a huge support to me, thank you.

Well I went to the GP again today and saw a different doctor (the 5th person now!) who was actually very good. She even did the keytone test which not one of the other GPs did. She also automatically arranged for me to see her next week. Generally she took me a lot more seriously. I wonder if the fact that she was a woman made a difference. Anyway, I've now been put on Cyclizine. I've just thrown up though... but I'll keep taking them today, perhaps it will take a couple of tablets to kick in. I'm getting a horrible lump in my throat (I also got that with the Avomine, but not with the Prochlorperazine). I've also been given rehydration salts to drink. I took my husband... perhaps that helped too. I really cant stand this lump in my throat though.. did anyone else get that?

theonlyhb2 Good that you got your risk assessment, Well done for managing to work at all! I've not been able to work for 3 months now and as I'm a research student I get no sick pay :-(

LucindaE Interesting that acupuncture worked for you, I have tried the accupressure wrist bands but didn't notice any effect other than numb fingers! Thanks for the tips on 'coffee grounds'. I was worried about vomiting blood.

Alovelybunchofcoconuts Thats great news that you are getting by on some days with no pills at all! I too cannot face preparing food. I've even splashed out and bought ready made jellys with fruit in them. One of the few things I can stomach.

MotherofPearl Thanks for the lemon barley water tip. I tried that last week... I do like it, and can drink it, but when I'm sick and its just acidic bile I wondered if the lemon/acid was contributing to it. Probably not, I think I need to follow your tip of having it very weak. Thanks for the suggestion.

La73 I will keep checking the ketones. Nothing came up this morning, last night I had 1+. But I think I'm past my worst. I'm sure if I'd known about them a few weeks ago I'd have raised more attention with the result. Good to hear you are getting better now, at 30 weeks! I really couldn't imagine this going on until week 30!

Eggy I really hope those tablets start to kick in and you feel better soon.