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Overwhelmed by pregnancy dos & donts!

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PenguinPoo4 · 10/02/2011 12:36

Hi,
My DP and I have decided to try and conceive our first baby - eek! But I'm finding all the advice out there about what you can and can't eat and physically do a bit irritating. I've heard that you cant have hot baths whilst pregnant, can't eat soft boiled eggs, brie etc. etc. but people can never tell me WHY! It seems that a lot of pregnant and TTC women take all these precautions because 'it's better to be safe than sorry' and I do agree, but i want to be able to assess the risks for myself and make an informed decision about things based on FACT!Is there a book out there that actually goes into the science behind these things? I'm thinking studies, research etc. Please dont think I'm taking this all lightly and just looking for an excuse to carry on bunjee jumping and drinking wine whilst TTC and pregnant - I'm not, I just want to be able to make the decisions about how to manage my health myself - and lets face it, I could be TTC (so possibly unknowingly pregnant) for bloomin ages so at least if I can understand why I'm having to give up nuts or whatever then I may find it a bit easier!
Thanks!
PS I've lurked for a while but this is my first ever post so please be gentle :)

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sparechange · 11/02/2011 11:29

Sorry - link
pre and post natal exercise advice

cardamomginger · 11/02/2011 12:10

And then when you do choose to avoid stuff, you will also come in for some flack. I avoided smoked salmon during pregnancy and was hauled over the coals by a (female) GP who was also a guest at the lunch where my smoked-salmon-boycott was evident. "Never heard of not eating smoked salmon when pregnant in my life. I've had 3 children and ate sushi all the way through - no way I was giving that up!" etc, etc.... then the (female) dietician decided to join in and give me a hard time for doing something that "made no sense whatsoever". If there is a DC2 I will just say that pregnancy hormones make me feel sick when I eat x, y, or z. Basically you are damned if you do and damned if you don't Grin.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 11/02/2011 13:44

Thanks for clarifying, midori! Yes, I only meant soft cheeses, not blue ones. I would tend to avoid the latter - but I'm not overkeen on them anyway, so it's easy.

During my last pregnancy, I didn't worry about runny eggs and all was fine there. I just didn't fancy coffee or alcohol, so that was no problem. But caffeine in moderation is okay.

Incidentally, one slightly odd one to avoid (but with good evidence to back it up) is licorice. Apparently, it contains a chemical that inhibits the growth of the placenta. A lot of herbal teas have licorice root in them, but I'm not sure whether they constitute a risk or not.

On the subject of herbs and herbally things, it's worth checking some of those before ingesting. Some are better avoided in pregnancy. Raspberry leaf tea, for example is definitely best avoided until the last couple of months (when it's anecdotally recommended to prime your uterus).

Likewise, over-the-counter cold and cough remedies etc. often contain ingredients that aren't recommended during pregnancy.

That said, I wouldn't worry about that stuff until you've successfully conceived. As the others said, take your folic acid, enjoy the occasional drink, stay healthy and keep on shagging! Grin

PenguinPoo4 · 11/02/2011 14:55

I have finally found some time to read through the articles 'spare change' linked to, so far the first one is very good, god I hope I have a midwife like that when I'm pregnant!
Bought some folic acid today, am just hoping DP doesnt change his mind about the whole thing! I've been ready for a lot longer than he has, but he (sensibly) wanted to wait till we were more financially secure etc. we're now not exactly loaded, but a lot more prepared and stable than ever before. I said to him the other night that there will never be a 'perfect' time and that we should just go for it, and he agreed. I guess part of me is nervous that he may have just agreed to shut me up - but I dont really think he would do that. God i sound very jumbled! Sorry, I suppose it's normal that I'm more excited and nervous about everything than DP right? I believe that he is ready, but I think its just a lot more 'real' for me, as I am the one who has stopped taking the pill, started taking folic acid and will become pregnant. he just has to carry on as normal.

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InmaculadaConcepcion · 11/02/2011 15:08

Good luck!

Assuming it all goes according to plan, make sure you and your DP both read this before you become parents.

It's not a "how to" type book at all - but it's essential reading when it comes to emotional preparation. Smile

Now, enjoy TTC!

mrswantstobeamum · 11/02/2011 15:27

I hope this isn't too harsh, but to play devil's advocate, don't you think you are being judgmental, assuming that masses of pregnant women are blindly following guidance that they don't understand? And your 'feminist' argument misses the mark, putting the responsibility fully on practitioners for providing us with information that we are all capable of seeking out ourselves. As parents-to-be, we are the ones who are ultimately responsible for the wellbeing of our DC, and we should feel compelled to inform ourselves beyond what practitioners can provide us with during hurried 10-minute appointments.

That being said, I'm sorry that you seem to be surrounding by bitchy, judgmental women. They sound miserable, and I would try my best to ignore them. You sound intelligent enough to do the research for yourself and make your own informed decisions about what you will and won't do during your pregnancy. There is a wealth of information - some better than others - online and in pregnancy and parenting books. You may want to start with those recommended by the NCT.

On the flip side, like cardamomginger, I am tired of taking flack for choosing to avoid things. For example, at 22 weeks, I can't tell you how many people have tried to convince me to have a drink. I have done the research, made my own decision, and have chosen not to drink whilst pregnant for a number of reasons. It doesn't bother me if I see a pregnant woman having a small glass of wine because it is ultimately her choice, but I don't understand why some people are so bothered - to the point of almost seeming offended - that my choice is not to drink. I resent the assumption that I must be the one blindly following some guidance that I don't thoroughly understand.

But I'm afraid it comes with the territory. As you?ll soon learn, everyone is full of advice about TTC, pregnancy, and parenting. A lot of this is bad or misguided advice, and you'll have to get used to taking it with a grain of salt. I try to keep in mind that it is normally well intentioned and respond politely. Some advice is based on fairly black and white evidence (like the harmful effects of smoking or drinking excessively whilst pregnant), but many are grey areas and open to personal interpretation.

By the way, you might be surprised at how you feel about some of the things you?ve mentioned when your body starts to change. For example, regarding your comment about ladders, it seems ridiculous to you now, but with a bigger bump, your centre of gravity changes and things that you never thought twice about before do become bigger risks (as I realised last week whilst attempting to clean the tops of some very high cabinets, which I will not do again whilst pregnant). Also ? and most importantly ? you will start to feel differently about some of these things once you are pregnant and it hits you just how much your personal decisions will impact another human being for whom you are now fully responsible. You probably feel that to some degree now, but for many of us that feeling becomes much more intense once the situation feels more ?real? ? like when you see your baby during a scan, or when you feel his or her first movements.

In any case, good luck with your decisions and with TTC!

Petsville · 11/02/2011 15:43

I was also pretty laid back about food: I didn't eat soft cheeses or pate, but I ate runny eggs and sushi and had the odd glass of wine. I also had a blood test for toxoplasmosis before I got pregnant (I had to pay for this privately as in my area you can't get it on the NHS) and that was really worth it as it turns out that I'm immune, so I could eat rare meat with no worries.

At the risk of being another well-meaning person dishing out dubiously helpful advice, my top tip is, if you can face it and the HCPs don't actually advise you not to, to carry on exercising as much as you can. People are very peculiar about exercising in pregnancy, but as far as I can discover, provided that you don't overheat or dehydrate, there's no problem. I went on cycling throughout my pregnancy (commuted to work by bike) and got a lot of comments, not all of them exactly positive. I was unbelievably glad that I had when I developed SPD at 28 weeks: for the rest of the pregnancy I couldn't walk or stand without pain, but I could cycle completely painlessly. My balance wasn't affected because I'd never had a break of longer than a few days, so I adjusted to the bump getting bigger. If I'd listened to the doom-mongers, I'd have been pretty well immobilised. Plus, I'm sure being fit (I was also swimming and doing yoga and Pilates) helped with recovery after DS was born.

PenguinPoo4 · 11/02/2011 16:10

Mrswantstobeamum, you have given me food for thought. I do think that some of the risks are real - particularly drinking heavily and smoking in my opinion. You are right, i will have to be careful to make sure that my personal decisions are not expressed as a judgement on those who choose to be more cautious. And yes, when i do fall pregnant I may end up changing a lot of my opinions! You may find me on AIBU outraged because someone makes me a brie sarnie when I'm 6 months pregnant, who knows!
I dont think that all those who are super careful are blindly following advice, but i can see that it did sound like that. I just think that there are so many do's and don'ts that I personally find it hard to sift through the 'old wives tales' and outdated advice to try and find the information on the important things to avoid. I had a friend who chose to drink and smoke heavily throughout her pregnancy but would not eat soft cheese or rare steak! But then, that may be more a matter of her picking and choosing the advice she wanted to listen to.

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Davsmum · 11/02/2011 16:14

There is too much to scare pregnant ladies these days ! You could go mad trying to follow all the advice. Much of it is recommendation - not rules !
Its mostly common sense and your body often 'tells' you if you are on the right track.
When I was pregnant - a long time ago, I went totally off alcohol which surprised me !
Women have got by for centuries without knowing all this stuff,.. so its a wonder aany babies got born at all 100 years ago ! I think more harm is done with the worry and anxiety all these flamin' scare stories cause !
Most women are NOT idiots - and have common sense and instincts that they should follow rather than listen to 'experts' and other over cautious women !

takethatlady · 11/02/2011 16:24

mrswantstobeamum I agree with some of what you say, but I think the 'feminist' issue isn't wide of the mark because the guidelines are often quite out of sync with the scientific evidence, and because I think the OP is not just talking about guidelines but about other peoples' judgments of her. I am equally Shock at people trying to make you drink as at people who throw pregnant women out of pubs or tut loudly at them if they so much as try to buy a glass of wine! I think there are still a lot of people - medical practitioners, government advisors or just general people - who think women should/shouldn't behave in certain ways and are doubly annoying when it comes to pregnancy.

That said, I agree that many many women (and most of the ones on this thread) are totally capable of making their own minds up! But when the evidence itself is sketchy, misinterpreted, overinterpreted, and revised at every opportunity, it seems ridiculous that anybody would judge. (Obviously unless wildly stupid choices are being made - getting hammered on drugs and alcohol every night, for instance.)

takethatlady · 11/02/2011 16:25

Whoops - that looked really rude! ('Most women on this thread ...') Obviously all women on this thread and many many many many more besides make good judgments which work for them every day! Sorry!

PenguinPoo4 · 11/02/2011 16:38

I agree! I am not particularly anxious about this - I'm not even pregnant yet! But I was rather insecure when I was younger and took criticism to heart. I am a lot more think skinned now, but worry that pregnancy may make me over sensitive. I will also have a lot of decisions regarding personal safety to make as my job is physical - so although, when I do fall pregnant I wont want to tell anyone for a while, i may have to to avoid doing certain things at work that may be required. I think I'll just have to make that judgement when the time comes, but it will be a decision made jointly between myself, my partner and my doctor, noone elses opinions will be welcome!

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PenguinPoo4 · 11/02/2011 16:40

oops was responding to davesmum, slowly!

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JenniferCanesten · 11/02/2011 16:59

When I was pregnant at work, my colleague told me very seriously that his upstairs neighbour had a miscarriage "because she had to keep walking up and down the stairs all the time"!

I did struggle to keep a straight face...

My best giving-up stuff recommendation is Becks Blue Beer. It really tastes like beer. It is lovely. I know, lots of other posters have said, a couple of drinks a week is fine, I was very excited about this as was a big drinker previously but I found that immediately after just one glass of wine my baby would go nuts and start having himself a little party so as it seemed to be cause-and-effect I didn't drink after that. Wine Envy

PenguinPoo4 · 11/02/2011 17:15

Hmmm, I am worried about the drinking. I will not binge drink whilst pregnant, but would like to restrict it to a couple glasses a week. However, i do find it hard to control my alcohol intake generally so I hope that I go off it when pregnant! Saying that, I think TTC, as opposed to a surprise pregnancy helps, as I can prepare by reducing my general alcohol intake and cutting out all binge drinking now, so hopefully it wont be so hard when i actually am pregnant.
I had lunch with DP today and took the first folic acid. I asked him if he was sure about everything, and he said yes and not to be so silly! I think he does want a child, but just doesnt feel the same urgency that I do. He is forever bringing home orphaned animals that we end up adopting, so he does have a softer caring side, can't wait to see him with a baby! It is his fault I'm broody though, he cant expect to bring home a tiny lamb then proceed to bottle raise it without me sizing him up as father material!

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takethatlady · 11/02/2011 17:41

Good luck penguin, you'll be fine! :) (And this from a big binge drinker who has drunk a single solitary unit of alcohol since pregnant :))

mathanxiety · 11/02/2011 20:30

Best not to binge drink after the baby arrives either. It's not good for anyone in the long run.

blimp72 · 11/02/2011 23:52

Dya now hun just get PG first then sort out what you need to worry about i agree you should be taking the folic acid but other than that don't fret!! you will get all the information you need when you need it. Lets face it how many of us are enjoying a few wines and fags a couple of weeks before we find out we're up the preverbial DUFF !!(i havn't smoked for more than 3 years b4 i get flamed)As for the other stuff as long as it's cooked properly you'll be Ok lets face it we couldn't/can't eat liver Yet our parents where force fed the bloody stuff in 5 yr's time it'll be somthing else PG womem can't have. It's only a matter of time before all PG women are kept in a vault (tonge in cheek)

blimp72 · 11/02/2011 23:55

Hi penguin PLease don't drink i'm as laid back as they come but a few months on the wagon ain't that bad!!!! Plus avin a hangover when the kiddy's up @ 5 in the AM is NOT FUNNY

blimp72 · 12/02/2011 00:06

Good Luck penguinpoo i hope your soon PG you've no idea how much your life will change (for the better) I remember tellin my Friends how i'd be gettin a babysitter an goin out on the town with the girls after the baby was born. My eldest is 8 in may an i havn't been out with them yet!! a bit extreme i know but thats just how it is sometimes it's a strange feeling to have this little thing that means more to you than the very air you breathe ( sorry if i'm a bit deep but out of 5 PG's i got 2 DC's)
Anyway enough about that enjoy your Wine while you can it's only a couple of mths out of your whole life xxxx
I think i've had to many Wine's feck it it's fri lol

mathanxiety · 12/02/2011 00:06

Try to detox yourself (alcohol wise) before ttc and your partner should too.

takethatlady · 12/02/2011 09:48

penguin there's a thread over on the conception boards called 'thread for the JSing viroids' or something - it's for people who are (trying) to take a relaxed attitude to the whole thing. Quite a few of them still have a drink (or ten Wink), they try not to obsess over fertility friend and all that stuff (though they do break the rules!) and try to keep everything in perspective. I was on there for ages and there's a graduate thread for those of us who have got knocked up. It's a fun thread and I'm sure you'd fit right in if you want to check it out!

jennybluetree · 12/02/2011 14:17

Hi - my sister has been a midwife for 10 years now and also did her dissertation on the effect of alcohol in pregnancy and she recommends not drinking at all.

She is very sensible and pregnant herself now! Hope this helps! :)

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Paula30CWR · 12/02/2011 16:45

I think it's like the others have said...just relax and enjoy.

My husband and I decided to try for a baby in April by thinking: Oh, well just as well it can take time...So we relaxed and had a sexual life but I started taking the Pregnant Care - Conception and avoiding alcohol (which I don't drink to begin with) and some of the things they tell you to avoid, but I enjoyed it. And when we least expected I was pregnant in a month! First time lucky!

Now, I'm in the last week of pregnancy as my little boy is due in a week and a half...
Time has flown! So just enjoy it!

All the best!