SHV78,
"KickArseQueen - I come from a community where all the men have been circumcised and I have never encountered a man who is unhappy about it. The hundreds that you talk about pale in comparison to the actual number of men that were circumcised as children and have absolutely no problem with it. Your view that it doesn't give a good ration of success is nonsense and completely without foundation."
Spend lots of time talking to men about how happy they are with their foreskins do you? In most communities where foreskin removal is considered normal, for a man to stand up and declare his upset would cause problems. Just because someone hasn't said they are unhappy with something doesn't mean they are ecstatic about it either!
"I also find it very strange that so many of you have what appears to be an unhealthy obsession with researching circumcision in infants when it is not something that you would consider for your children or which is not a religious/cultural belief in your society."
Not strange at all, and not remotely unhealthy. Quite the opposite. I have a son and he ( aged about 7 months) had balanitis. It happened twice in a few months and a friend said that maybe circumcision would be a good idea.
Unlike most people I like to look into things properly, I don't like to make assumptions. That is how I came to learn about the truth behind circumcision. I continued to read and investigate because I was so horrified that such a thing is still happening in the world and I am determined to bring the facts to any parent who is considering doing that to their child.
"Isn't that done with just topical gel?
We are having the plastibel procedure with a local anaesthetic injection which is more effective than the gel."
No, "We" aren't having anything. Your son is. To be precise you are talking about a ring block anasthetic. In order for this to work the anasthetic has to be injected into exactly into the right place, it is incredibly difficult to get it right. DP had this done on his finger after he dislocated it, he says that the injections into the nerves was excrutiating and it was only a partial success, he was in agony when they tried to reduce his finger. On a baby it is that much harder because they are much smaller.
SVH78 Even if you did change your mind I doubt very much that you would admit such a thing. You are incredibly defensive and in my experience, people who are as defensive as you know what they are doing is wrong, but don't want to admit it.
"Iloveitwhenyoucallmeboo - it is a parenting decision like whether to vaccinate e.g. MMR jabs and the debate about autism etc"
No actually its not. Parents give vaccinations in the hope that the child will be spared from an illness, RIC isn't going to spare them from anything and could cause serious problems for the child in later life. I may have said this before, but just in case
ITS UNNECESSARY
I entered into learning about RIC with an open mind and made a decision based on the facts and medical evidence. Your mind is closed.
"Opinions changed against their will remain of their opinion still."
You are not willing to take in new advice / information. I'm not going to bother giving you any its pointless.
If you want to have a proper discussion then please bring me facts and links, not superstition and twaddle.
ladysoandsos link
Thankyou ladysoandso, that was very informative. :)
I particulary like this bit..
"Depending on the amount of skin cut off, circumcision robs a male of as much as 80 percent or more of his penile skin. Depending on the foreskin's length, cutting it off makes the penis as much as 25 percent or more shorter. Careful anatomical investigations have shown that circumcision cuts off more than 3 feet of veins, arteries, and capillaries, 240 feet of nerves, and more than 20,000 nerve endings.31 The foreskin's muscles, glands, mucous membrane, and epithelial tissue are destroyed, as well."
25 Percent shorter?? Can't imagine very many men being happy about that! And that really is the least of it.