March 2010- Group Therapy on the cheap

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And cupcakes

Ang - you're on the FB grouP!

Thanks RKD so many beautiful babies!!

Lovely to see what you all look like in RL

Anyone else suffer from low milk supply in the evenings? It is really puzzling as I used to have so much excess milk I could have fed all the babies in my town, but now I really struggle to fill him up as quickly as he wants, do DS gets really frustrated cos he is tired and cant be bothered to wait for the next let down. This coupled with the refusal to take a bottle is really stressing me out.

at your ability to run 7 miles BMI!

Manda - I often used to have to really wrack my brains in a morning to work out whether I got up to feed in the night, you do things on autopilot, dont worry.

It has been brought to my attention that the one and only Pacific is back!!! Glad you had a nice break away. Sorry the sleeping is no better, hope it improves very soon.

Still in the middle of the 4 month sleep regretion here, at least I hope that's what it is! Am pretty tired, the best bit is dh watched the boys so I could have a nap this aft and even though I was knackered I couldn't sleep argh!

Hi to all, i am reading all the time and following the various updates on fb.

Tried to get Miles to take a bottle about 4 times now so I can have a break now and then buy he's not entertaining the idea at all! Tried mam ones and tommee tippee closer to nature and he won't even suck, just bites the teat a bit then pulls away. Any tips???

Anyone know where you find groups you are a member of on iPhone facebook app? I can't see you on my phone but can on laptop?!

ang not sure i understand the question but a) there isn't an iphone app for MN and b) you can bookmark to your home page the Threads I'm On page which is how i do it on the iphone. but it's pretty annoying tbh...takes ages to load a long page like this one and i hate the typing. which reminds me sariska you can sort of do tabs - you can have various pages on safari going at the same time (mine has 7 at the moment) and flick between them all) - but it's not great i have to admit..

pd so glad you are back, albeit briefly! big wave

can't be long - been a pig of a day and yet again it's been the weekend that has suffered! grrr. DD1 has a godawful eye infection and yet again more Flucoxacillin to get into her - it tastes AWFUL and i don't blame her for refusing. and DD2, well, i'm not sure but it might be teeth. in between, (and sometimes whilst) elking, she is still lovely though.
off to bed.
night. to all
p.s. flip can you repost the link to your petition i can't remember it and can't find it again
p.p.s. am slightly obsessed with making my own sling in time for our hols in three weeks. And It's All IWCAS's fault....

PD Glad you had a lovely time - nice to see you back!

Ang We are hoping to go down the BLW route, although DH and I have already had to agree that we're going to have to stop enthusiastic GPs trying to 'help' DD eat when the time comes! The way she was eyeing up/reaching for my yorkshire puds today, it's going to be a long 8 weeks!

BMI DD likes to squeal loudly too, although raspberries are still the preferred method of communication atm. Especially at 5am.

IWCAS Are you still thinking about changing your name, or are you sticking with what you have?

MummyElk about DD1 and the medicine, are you able to disguise it in anything?

Think DD is VERY close to cutting her first teeth, her gums feel different at the front today, there's a very definite 'chunk' underneath. DH said he could see the teeth there, but I didn't get a look. Another dose of calpol and liberal spread of bonjela before bedtime seemed to stop the screaming though, fingers crossed in a day or two we'll have some teeth. Bought an inflatable rubber-ring type seat today (rather than a bumbo) DD looks so cute in it. Where did the tiny, tiny newborns go? (disclaimer, not so tiny in some cases!)

No advice, IWCAS, just massive sympathies. Know what you mean: Joe has not read his baby manual either...

He went to bed at 10pm after 1 hour of settling and repeated feeding, shushing, rocking - also I lost my favorite dummy today as I was all frazzled having carried him the entire way from Tesco's home on my arm whilst pushing the pram with the shopping in it: he was ment to be in the pram and shopping in backpack but he screamed and screamed and screamed; the child hates every single pram I have tried out: parent facing, forward facing, double buggy, with sheepskin, without, with dummy, without, after feed etc etc.

Weaning on solids: much as I like the concept of BLW I also like making purees so usually end up doing a bit of both IYKWIM. The previous 3 are all good eaters with v few dislikes that are easily avoided (ie courgettes) so the mixed approach seems to have worked for us.

No teeth here yet, thank goodness! Lots of rolling from side to side and repeated rolling from front to back. Also lots of squealing and sqeaking here; he clearly likes the sound of his own voice . And v cute when he and the other boys are having 'conversations'.

Shocked at running for the bus, nevermind 7 miles!! But I have decided to do the Glasgow 10k next year and am telling all and sundry so I can't chicken out . I won't start doing any running though until I have stopped BFing, tis just too uncomfortable... I am aiming to keep Bfing until Joe is 1 year (which is what I did with DS3) - whether I manage this time round, who knows??

Just on a tangent: is the 18th/19th of Sept still on for MMMM? Please say yes, you lot!

So tomorrow moring need to pack last of still airing boys' clothes, take DS1 for a hair cut, phone dentist and apologise for having missed appointment whilst on holiday, make sandwiches for provisions for trip (on top of all the sweets and E numbers; Fruit shoot anyone?).

Nighty-night, speak to you soon.

Angfirsttimer BEAUTIFUL photos of T on FB. What a little charmer! Such an intense and gorgeous stare he has!

IWCAS Sorry it's all thoroughly knackering atm. Poor little mite with his teething.

PD Hurray that you're back. Was worrying a bit about you.

MummyElk Nipples.

Good to see you back, PD. Holiday sounds lovely. Am a bit jealous of those of you who've been / are off on hol but not jealous enough to feel up to it myself .

No teeth here (DD I mean; luckily I have teeth already...) but dribble aplenty.

And still no evening settling either. Little Miss is not yet in bed even as I type. Hummpph! And, yes, like Heckle and Manda, we're still co-sleeping from the first (and, if I'm lucky, only) nightfeed. Am far too tired to contemplate doing otherwise yet. I love being able to sleep through the feeds and I find it more amusing than anything that I usually can't remember when she woke or how many times. DH, otoh, thinks I'm clearly losing it.

Good that you joined on FB, Ang. Looking forward to seeing your pics. When you said you couldn't see the MN group on your iPhone, did you mean on the FB app? If so, I can't either. Now, I am to technology as a fail in GCSE Physics is to NASA so I may be missing something - opinions welcome!

Sariska - yes that's what I meant. I can't access FB group on iPhone- rubbish!

Thanks RKD

Last night we went up to bed, and I allowed myself a little panic, we hadn't turned the baby monitor on and DD was asleep in her cot face down. She had managed to roll herself over when there was no-one watching or listening out for her Bet she won't show me her new skill today, oh no.

She then celebrated this achievement by blowing very long, very loud raspberries in her cot after lights out - for about an hour - cue me lying in bed sniggering and DH shushing me whilst trying not to laugh himself. Eventually I had to get her out and cuddle her to sleep, whilst DH stuck his eye mask on (I kid you not) and went to sleep.

Am knackered this morning, DD woke up at 5am and wouldn't calm down until I put her in bed with us (usually she might go back down for an hour if I give her a dummy) but she's spent the morning wrigging and jiggling and scratching and squawking. Between her and DH they took up all but about a foot of bed, so my shoulder is killing me from where I have been precariously balanced on it for 3 hours. DH of course slept through all of this (complete with eye mask) and then had the cheek to moan he was absolutely knackered this morning...

Good morning ladies,

just a quick hi to everyone.
I'm so sleepy! We had a bad night: crying, chatting, feeding... I was hoping that after three good nights he would settle. But it doesn't seem so. We are back to the old days

Pacific good to "see" you again

I'm going to take a nap while he's asleep.
I'll catch up later
x

Hello ladies, well, my big boys incl daddy have just left for Newcastle/ferry/Germany, yeah!
And Joe who had been awake since 8am (no morning sleep, not even on boob or lap) has just graciously allowed me to put him to bed which took all of 2 minutes !! Never, ever, had that before.
My mum just told me on the phone this morning about a 4 week old baby girl she had met at a 60th birthday who just sat in car seat all afternoon, at times asleep, at times awake, a wee feed somewhere along the way but perfectly happy - I am so .
I cannot tell you all how much it helps to read about other late bed times/poor nights/bad nappers etc etc.

I have still not read back through the thread but will make an effort whilst I have a chance.

Manda, annoying these DHs who sleep through it all, aren't they? Mine is the same and then complains of a bad night because he had to get up for a visit to the bathroom!!
He shared a bedroom with DS3 for half of our holiday - that tought him a partial lesson, teehee. We hadn't known until then that DS3 is in the habit of clanging his 2 dummies together from about 5am onwards. After a couple of nights of this DH 'lost' one of them... it has been 'found' again in the meantime .

Btw, is anybody still swaddling their little ones, heat allowing? I don't know what to do: OTOH Joe still has spectacular startles that wake him up, OTOH he likes sucking his fingers, occasionally finds his thumb and although he still does not use it to soothe himself, he might at some point, mightn't he >??

And do you think I should take the Amby to Germany? It has not proved to be the magic bullet I'd hoped it might be but I am loathe to interrupt what routine we have (even if he only spends max. 5 hours in it at night). I am still co-sleeping with him after the first feed of the night.

Oh, it is lovely to be back .

... that sleep lasted 20min. Oh well.

Hey there! [said in an effort to make self feel happy and more awake]

DS launched himself from my arms onto the corner of a book. The book: 'What to expect, baby's first year'. He now has a red mark on his skull. I was able to worry myself silly by reading about head injuries in the book.

LO is teething AND hungry in the night. I guess it's the 4-months sleep regression you've all been talking about. So back to waking up again during the night, twice. He just doesn't want to go to sleep again after each feed. I rub gel into his gums, but I'm not sure it's helping him.

BDW My baby sunscren says its fine for babies. There must be something suitable out there.

Pacific So good to see you back. I think about you frequently, and how hard you have it at the moment. I don't know how you are coping with the lack of sleep. [surreptitiously sticks MN velcro onto Pacific so that she can't leave]

oh, DS crying...

.... and the prize for today's grumpiest baby goes to: my DS!

aaaaarrrrrggggg i want to be a man, bugger off to work all day, com e home sit on ass whilst wife sorts kids, does dinner bla bla bla! and he wonders why i am grouchy

Just been reading on T'interweb about 4 month sleep regression. V interesting and explains a lot about why previously sleeping baby wakes an hour after going to bed and in night. google baby sleep site.
My mum also said I was difficult at this age cos I was so interested in the world and so frustrated that I couldn't do all the things I wanted to do. Brain developing quicker than body/motor skills.

Just thought I would share in case it saves anyones sanity for a brief moment!!

Oh dear, grumpy babies, grumpy mummies, unappreciative DHs... not a good day for lots of you. Hope tomorrow is better.

I've had an easy day (apart from the usual that Joe is permanently attached to me in some way or another - my left forearm muscles look like Popeye's...): big boys and DH off, just Joe and me. It was a local public holiday here (Glasgow Fair Monday) so I genuinely could not do any of the things I need to do. Went to visit a friend for a cup of tea and ended up staying for dinner.

Joe now in bed, not Amby, we'll see how it goes...

Thanks for that website, ang, I will have a look at it.

Hope you all have a good night. In the words of Scarlett O'Hara: tomorrow is another day.

Oh, Ang, that website was clearly written for me personally!! Thanks again.

Sorry, just had to share that, I am off to bed now, will read more tomorrow.

evening ladies and gent.
I've been lurking but not had much to say really.
Nice to see you back in the fold pacific I can now understand all those months ago when you kept saying you preferred being pregnant to looking after a newborn/baby I am still in the other camp I much prefer looking after a baby than being pregnant.
I do hope Joe turns a corner soon. The popeye look can't be a good one, never mind the sleep deprived look!
I started a thread here about slings if any of you have any suggestions - as you all know baby G is a BIG girl.here
Still planning on BLW, MIL has already started on the 'shouldn't you be feeding her something by now, she's so big you know' - well yes I had noticed she's big but boobie is suiting her fine right now.
We had lunch in a cafe today and Baby G was desperately trying to pull herself up from the very slight incline the buggy was set on so I propped her up in one of the more upright positions for a bit so she could see a bit more. She was loving it then promptly conked out completely in the Post Office queue.
Oh I'm sure there was lots more I wanted to say.
Hair still coming out in handfuls - loved the link siamese perhaps we could help out BP afterall?
I don't think I ever got round to welcoming our new man friend hello
I have to admit to not trying baby G with a bottle again partly because I haven't found the time to express and if she will reject it I don't really have the inclination to waste my time, although deep down I know that taking a bottle is a good thing and worth a bit of time and effort. We had a good night the other night with only one night feed (I fed her at midnight when I went to bed so that one doesn't count) then a 3.30 feed then next one was 8.30. This is really unusual we are normally doing 2 or 3 night feeds. I still haven't moved her to her cot in her own room as I'm too lazy. I just hoick her out and feed lying down and sometimes put her back and sometimes just cuddle in. Remarkably DH has not commented this time round. He was so narky about co-sleeping with DD1, he would stir in the night and say gruffly 'where's that baby' and nag me into putting her back in basket/cot etc.
We also had a really bad night on Friday as DD1 had a temperature and was out of sorts all day and very clingy. She went to bed ok but woke crying in the night about 4 times, this is unheard of with DD1 so I was up for her and also up for DD2 so it was a very unsettled night DH miraculously slept through it all ! and as his alarm was set for 5.15am I wasn't going to give him a kick to go and settle DD1 so it was all up to supermummy.
Still no rolling but a lot of hearty attempts.
No sign of teeth but a lot of dribble and a wee rash round her neck - just from dribble I think.
Did we work out who the namechangers were?