Dec 08 Ladies - Maybe this thread they'll ALL sleep through the night at the same time!

[Beans33]

Apologies for rubbish title, couldn't think of anything - mind is totally riddled by hormones...!

Cross posted. trace Poor L, that sounds very sore indeed. I hope the rash calms down soon.

I had chicken pox when I was about her age. My mum told me I could go back to school when the spots had gone so I sat up half the night picking my scabs off. I was a bookish child!

OOooh, Trace, poor L. Sounds grim. My rash over my bump is back but it has spread to my chest and my tits are sore and itchy. I now realise it just looks like....eczema, which I haven't had since I did my finals when I was super stressed.

What a crummy game. Kiwi, I think your DH will be back in a jiff at this rate! Sorry you are missing out on Tuesday. Remind me of the days you can do (is it just weekends?) We will sort something out for you over the next couple of weeks. Oh, and I'm at the rather splendid Chiswick House on Sunday, watching/overseeing my team play cricket - I will have O with me. I imagine it's nowhere near you and the idea of cricket doesn't thrill you, but if it's a gorgeous day and you feel like a change, that's where I will be.

JB, that is cool about the signing. And similar here - anything DD doesn't know the name for is automatically a doggie...

Veggie, I am glad DS1 gets to wear a pirate suit to the wedding. It's not the sort of thing one can easily do as a grown up, I think he should avail himself of the opportunity whilst he can. I had a Gary Glitter suit when I was 3 (oh, the irony!) He was obviously very popular in the 1970s. Anyway, Mum once let me wear it to a drinks party. It was cool.

Oh, and Spot - how is T today?

He's a lot better thanks, Lady, still rattly and snotty but no temp and seems in less discomfort. Crossing fingers for a decent night.
Sorry to hear about your rash - is there anything you can do for it?

Poor L, Trace, you guys have really been through it. Hope you have some relief overnight.
Sorry for no more, am tres knackered and need to put clean bedding on.

Wow that signing is very impressive, I really should try doing some with DS2 as he does get quite frustrated at times and I think much of the time it's hunger and I don't always pick up on it because I'm not used to such a good eater.

Lady Doggie is still 'oof oof' for DS2 but he does enjoy pointing out ducks enthusiastically. Most other animals are just 'RAAAAH'. That rash sounds annoying, I hope it's not a stress thing as you dealing with a lot lately.

Kiwi DH is looking forward to listening to the podcast of tonights post match analysis, in front of the inebriated masses.

Gah, I am so fed up of broken nights. It must be an average of about 3 in 7. I know other people put up with worse but I can just never get to sleep again once I wake/am woken up. DP's hypnogogic hallucinations are bad this week, it's the second time he has shaken me awake telling me bees are in the bedroom

I am now certain the rash is eczema and it is so bad on my chest - sorry, itchy, prickly. I can't remember what you do for it: E45? Diprobase? Oatbags?

Just remembered the football - grrrr! Hope you are all having a better night's sleep than me...

Oh, and before I go, just wanted to moan about the book What to Expect When You are Expecting, which I have always used as a general manual as it's comprehensive and my dodobrain has forgotten about lots of pregnancy issues and I need to keep checking up. For those giving birth naturally, there is a very irritating schedule of how to make the pain of childbirth better - reasons that YOU are making the pain worse and how to combat them. For instance, it lists 'self-pity' and how you should think of the wonderful gift you are about to receive. I do think that's a stupid thing to say. I don't think it's going to help anyone in the throes of labour, even though I know I have never been there. Also, there is a sort of an negative undercurrent to the list that seems to suggest that if you are feeling a lot of pain, it's because YOU are doing something wrong. Which, again, despite never having been there, I know is total ballcocks. Anyway, so many of these childbirth and baby books make me cross. But it isn't taking much at the moment.

Oooh ladyt that sounds infuriating. Because women need encouragement to blame themselves...I also wanted to say on the whole canula/not canula thing SL that I had one both times and it didn't bother me in the slightest. Much better to have one put in when you're more relaxed. I also had continuous monitoring when I had DD & drip etc. so by all the standards people usually apply was very medicalised. But in my memory, and at the time, it was very peaceful and genuinely relaxed experience. Magical even. So there you go

I can never get back to sleep once I'm up either. And we had another 5:15 this morning. But I'm on strike and have resolutely stayed in bed (with the DCs clambering all over me for a couple of hours) until DH has got up and taken them downstairs.

Have dilemma this weekend as I was offered the new job, and literally as I was writing the email accepting it I had a call from my current work offering me something else. Am v flattered, and know I am v lucky in the current climate but genuinely agonising about it because the new job will be full time (if only for a few months) and I do love where I work. Even though it drives me mad...Hmm. I also have to decide over the weekend when I can't really talk to the people I normally ask advice from.

JB I hope you had a good time at the zoo. We were at Regents Park a couple of weeks ago and when anyone asks DS what he saw he says 'some pigeons'

Katie sorry about the diagnosis and crossing things for the cottages

And Trace - poor L sounds awful. Hope it's over quickly.

And Rubes. Crikey you're very chipper given that journey. Hope you're enjoying the sunshine and you got the hotel sorted.

Sybs I hope ascot was more fun than you hoped. I have a similar situation with a friend and never really sure what to do about it. I sort of let it tail off and she occasionally arranges things but think finds it weird too. Oh well.

LadyT at the facepack. Yesterday morning DD got my mascara out and brushed it through her hair. That was fun to clean up...

Veggie I have a semi-pirate outfit I wear for work sometimes when I'm feeling rebellious (kind of frayed new romantic-ish shirt and vivienne westwood skirt that gathers up on one hip). So am of your DS1. LadyT is right. Do it while you can.

Oh and my eczema is bad at the moment too. Diprobase is good - not using anything that takes oil out of your skin on the affected area. Also I find diet makes a big difference. Boringly enough. So for me it's laying off spicy food (we eat a lot of it)

Happy Saturdays

Oh LadyT, what a nightmare for you, you poor thing. I hope you managed to get some kip after you posted.
What you say is so true about the pain of childbirth. I was under the mistaken delusion that I would just breathe my baby out (hah!) and I'm sure I remember when I was having contractions really close together and the midwife hadn't arrived yet with the G&A I yelled "why did they lie to me?! Whose stupid idea was this to do it without drugs?" etc etc. And what am I doing now? PLanning another homebirth. Gah!

Re-the rash, I had v itchy skin during my second trimester (when i was tested for obstetric choleastasis (sp) ) and was just prescribed an acqueous cream from the doc. Also something called Oilatum that you put in the bath. Both stank to high heaven but they did help.

Both men in this house are still asleep, I have been awake since 6 going over conversations with DP in my head that I'm sure I'll never have (and where I come across as totally reasonable and assertive and, crucially, right). But we do have a window for a talk this afternoon - we're off to a 40th birthday do tonight and staying in a hotel and we might have a couple of hours first. Thing is I'm not sure it's great timing for a deep and meaningful but I can't think whenever else we'll be on our own and DP will be too hungover tomorrow. I'm just worried I'll suddenly start banging on and not be able to stop.

Morning! 8am and DH has already pissed me off with grumpy sniping AFTER I made him coffee and got the boys up. The ingratitude. I'll be taking his card back at this rate.

Urbane: I love the sound of your pirate outfit! I am v impressed that my standard 6th form outfit (short shorts, tights, man's jacket) has come back via Amy Pond but am sadly too old and fat to get away with wearing it again.

Oh, I took the plunge and did the home ponytail cut on my hair! Only took an inch or do off but it looks reasonable. May try again with more dramatic layering.

I thought DS2 was quiet, turns out he was industriously scribbling on the back of DH's book. Whoops.

LadyT: try a few different creams, E45 can be irritating for some people. We use Cetraban for the boys. Hope it settles soon.

Spot: did you get a decent night?

Sending non-itchy vibes to L. Have all the older ones had the pox now? Seems that most of us have suffered at some point!

Spot: at the moment I'd be up for a joint mystery bodies in the boot scenario, but that may not be terribly constructive. Good luck with the big talk.

Effie, on second thoughts I prefer your suggestion. Talking never solved anything.

Great news girls - Beans's waters have gone! No contractions yet but it's all underway. If not contracting by tomorrow she's going to be induced at 8am. So our first "new" sibling will be here in the next few days. Opening, lengthening and stretching vibes now required. So excited for her!

BTW, she says our Tues date is now off - can't think why?!

Had a blast yesterday but now very hungover. Full details shortly.

WOWOWOWOWOW BEANS!!!!! that is so exciting Thanks for the update Sybil Can't wait for the next installment!
The footie was rather underwhelming wasn't it?
Spot I'll be thinking of you as you plan your dp's murder have your Big Talk. Never easy but usually well worth it IME.
Veggie will we get to see a pic of Pirate AK?
LadyT your dp's sleep things sounds awful (for both of you). I've never heard of that before. Is it something he can get treatment for? And poor you with the itchiness Hope you find something that works for you. Epaderm works well with my girls.
Lu is thoroughly miserable. She was up loads last night, beside herself with itchiness .
She had fallen asleep on my bed about an hour ago, hence me popping on here, but she's awake now so back on cuddle duty for me.
Bye for now xxx

Oo LadyT Chiswick House isn't that far actually! When will you be there/ where exactly? I might well pop along, it's supposed to be nice out tomorrow isn't it?

Oo LadyT Chiswick House isn't that far actually! When will you be there/ where exactly? I might well pop along, it's supposed to be nice out tomorrow isn't it?

yay, go beans!!! didn't the same thing happen last time - waters went early with no contractions fora while?

spot - have been reading your posts and feeling really really similar. will write more later, but you're not the only one. feeling for you.

things with dh are better - counselling is helping for lots of reasons, although i am a bit scared of it (having been so gung ho in teh beginning). will do a bit catch up soon.

ladyt - i, too, was up at stupid o'clock. wish i could be constructive, but i aimlessly surf the internet and can't remember any of the good things to look at.

Ooooooo posted before refreshing so excited about Beans now!! Sending out moving-things-along vibes in her direction!!

Hi all!

I can quickly pop on as Mum hemming our curtains (what a star!) and DD sleeping. So, DH went out for his last blast before the baby arrives last night. Got SMASHED and got in at 3am - and with a mate to sleep in our spare bed. I went unnecessarily ballistic, poor chap. When had encouraged him to go out and get hoovered - although wasn't expecting it that bad! Anyway, at 6.45 I woke up with trickly waters. Continued apace. So rang hospital, who told me to come in.

Mum rushed up from Kent to look after Whizzy and she's now being v helpful.

They had a look at my parts, the waters coming out and said if things haven't progressed naturally by 8am tomorrow, I have to be induced. GAH! So don't want to be, so am now having a coke to try and rush things along. Just had a promising tensing and need for a poo, but nothing so far... Fingers crossed! Poor DH felt so awful. We've both just had a nice sleep. Mum being total heroine!

I got terrible giggles in hospital as DH threatening to dress up as a doctor to help out, by wearing his dressing gown back to front with nothing else underneath. Waters squirting everywhere as I laughed hysterically! I had to drive to and from Tommy's as DH massively over the limit still!

Anyway, am going to log off for now and disappear until I have a baby. Holy COW! Will text Kiwi or Sybs as I have their numbers in my phone!

Spot - see how the mood takes you in the hotel - but don't do it if you think it might ruin the party - see how you feel.

Big big love. Wish me luck!

Beans
xxxx

Good luck Beans!!! Got everything crossed for you. xxxx

So exciting about Beans and really hope it gets started soon.

Also meant to say good luck with the chat Spot. Brave of you to do it (I am currently avoiding having anything that looks like it might be a serious conversation with DH)

Hi Everyone,

I am back from France where I could not even lurk and it has taken me 24 hours to catch-up with your week. I did rather miss you all .

I am sooooooooo excited to hear things are happening with BabyBeans. Good luck Beans. I hope you avoid the induction. Try walking up stairs sideways. I can't wait to hear what you have. My money has been on a girl all along but right now I suddenly feel like it will be a boy.

Sorry to hear about Lu Trace. What a pain to be in solitary confinement again. And ouch to spots down THERE.

And sorry to hear about the diabetes Katie. Is Type2 less serious than Type1? I know nothing of these things.

Urbane - what is the new job? Is it still public sector? I would be tempted to escape from the service right now.

That is not much of a catch-up is it? I feel guilty not playing with the girls as I have been away for so long. France was OK but hard work. I was working 8am-9.30pm most nights and then I was expected to so out and eat with the team who were all young party animals who thought I was a right saddo for not embracing the Parisian nightlife more. They wanted to dance but on Monday morning John Prescott trod on my toe and I still think he may have broken it, therefore dancing was out of the question. Bloody bad luck really, of all the politicians in Europe to stand on my toe...

Oh and LadyT and Kiwi. I live v near Chiswick House. It has a lovely little cafe and playground. When are you both going to be there? We may be going to the outlaws for lunch but if we don't I could join you.

Aaaaaaahhhhh Beans so exciting!!!

Spot, I think maybe a chat before you go out might not be a good time. Could you maybe just say you need some more nights alone together and see if you can book a time. If you start something up and then don't resolve things before you go out it would be a bad thing.

Lady that is so crap from that book. I had that book but stopped reading in the 2nd trimester when I consulted it about the fact that I had just started with lots of voming. The book said by 16 weeks morning sickness may have stopped, it may be starting, or it may remain the same. WTF sort of help that advice is I don't know. I do agree that getting your adrenaline going with fear doesn't do you any good as I was incredibly tense with DS1 & had a 3 hr 2nd stage compared to 1 hr with DS2 when I was really really relaxed. But I think self pity is almost necessary. For much of the transition and early 2nd stage with DS2 I was holding DH's hands across the birthpool edge and looking intensly into his eyes. Somehow seeing in DH's eyes that he could see what I was going through helped me through that difficult transition time. Well that & sucking back that G&A. Spot, for me, a homebirth with a flexible attitude, is the way to go, but I stress that's just my opinion for my births.

Lady get thee to the GP ask for emolients and something for your bath (or Jams oatmeal in muslins) and apply generously. If you do put the oilatum or Aveeno in the bath ask DP to help you out on the bath as it makes the bath very oily & slippy.

Well my boys only drew but I'm sorry to England but the game I just watched was way more enjoyable than the England games. I think the players shouldn't be whinging about the fans booing, if if forked out the money these England fans have to watch the rubbish that they have had to I would be booing too. They need to be giving reasons for them to cheer.

Wow! Go the Beanster! Hope that baby gets it's act together and starts moving soon. I remember DH imbibing rather a lot of gin the night I went into labour eith DS1. I was calmly ordering a taxi while he was bellowing about looking for socks.

Avo: good to have you back. V bad luck about Prezza and the toe. Then again it could have been Nicholas Soames.

Oh and I am betting on a girl. Or maybe that should be 50p each way...