Dec 08 ladies getting re-clackered, with tantrums from toddlers we're sure to be knackered

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Thanks for asking Kiwi, I am feeling better now thanks just a bit of excess snot.

Oh and Katie, you can def get another cold virus on top of another, having one runs your immune system down so you are more sesceptible. Worse still you can pick up a bacterial infection when your run down so best to go to the GP.

Hello just a quick one. Kiwi don't worry I am on here quickly about tomorrow also as I was really looking foward to it too but will have to pull out also for a couple of reasons so I am hoping Beans will be ok to postpone? I thought my back was getting better but it seems to be feeling really stiff and sore again - dh says it's fine. But apart from that I forgot I am helping dh typing up a load of reports and getting a bit backlogged (he mumbles on the dictaphone thingy - not ideal when I'm not familiar with the vocab to start with ) but he wants to get them off asap so need to do more tomorrow really. Beans if you end up not going - do let Kiwi and I know of a different day that might work?

WG glad to hear you two are going to work at it and hopefully Lady has someone in mind.

Bugger to all the crap dh's - I had a meltdown today at my brother (still in the men category I spose) as he's slightly changed his plans again and I just feel like having no-one here now after this baby arrives but it's a long story but I wanted him and the kids ONLY here for a bit before they choof off to see her family, but now it sounds like he is only going to come here with his dp etc and he is different around her and I wanted some time to just catch up with him and the kids but whatever... I was knackered and hormonal I spose. He started talking about my names shortlist too and it is making me really influenced which way to go with names which annoys me as there are two he really likes and two he hates with a passion! Anyway, it's only mine and dh's decision I know but just makes it harder and I almost wish I'd never said a word like most of you suggested! Ok best get back to it!

Katie - good luck for work tomorrow. Boo to all the unhelpful men - but big claps for Trace's Dh and mine also for stepping into the breach (mine whilst I was off boozing and sleeping - TRace's whilst she was at her church weekend - Trace you are a much more worthwile individual than me... ).

WG - I think it is v positive that you have a plan. Don't know anyone but maybe Lady can help.

Have been keeping up but failing to post, sorry! will try to do better.

Mom: many congrats, having a Jan baby is great . Hope you aren't feeling too ropey. Spot: how are you getting on?

Ladyt: did you decide when to tell your families?

WG: I know those rows in public too well! I think you're being very sensible about the counselling.

Trace: yay for a great weekend and a helpful DH! Turnip: am v envious of your booze-up at the Spaniards. A lovely pub.

Sorry you're still feeling rubbish Katie.

Veggie: I love your stories about AK, he sounds such a lovely boy. I also have a food-nabbing DS2. He has also started sneaking any food he doesn't like onto DS1's plate.

News here is that DS2 is finally taking to this walking lark, he now prefers walking to crawling which is a start! He occasionally gets to walk with us when we're out abd about (going through the park for instance) and he looks so pleased with himself.

Rubes: hope the back eases up soon. Are you doing pg yoga or anything? Maybe a gentle swim (without ds) would help.

Avo: I have a mild complaint about that shortening because it reminds me of work. Good name though. Am sure dd will be fine. Strange what they go for.

Kiwi: enjoy Cornwall. How's the foot?

Jj: would belatedly add my advice to the chorus of people advocating clackerdom. Unless you were planning to skive along at work for the intervening months you're not being unfair.

Urbane: great to hear from you! Now we can stop fretting .

AVO sounds like she would get on well with DS2 he ate a dishwasher tablet last week then followed it with a bit of dog food. Makes for a strong constitution I say.

MOM huge congratulations and lovely to see you and Urbane back.

WG poor you I am useless at saying anything constructive in these situations but I would say that thrashing things out is a good thing and that seeking some sort of couples therapy can only be a positive way forward.

Trace how lovely glad to hear DH coped. I am pretty sure they all would if we bogged off for a weekend but it is difficult to relinquish control. Well in my case it would be not atall a control freak.

Had a fab weekend with my boys, you know when its just a regular busy weekend but just nice. The boys both began at the local rugby club. It was great I was very impressed. The teacher was one of the team a young lad of about 17 but he had them all in the palm of his hand and they thoroughly enjoyed it. Well they have no choice DH was a big rugby player as was my Dad so thank goodness it went well. Just good to get them involved in a club with great family values that they/us will be involved in as they grow up.

Anyway really must get in the shower will be back later for more personals. I must try post more often as I miss so much if I leave it a few days as I am rubbish at big catch ups.

Hi All! Just a quickie - v happy to postpone Wetlands as have LOADS to do re the move today. Nothing exciting, but things like sorting out parking permits for our removal van (DH moving us himself - mental!), arranging for mail to be forwarded and other such lovelies. So lots and lots to do.

Sorry sorry, I have to go as loads on! But as of next week I'm on maternity leave, so can do things on more flexible days!

Will doubtless be on later to do more personals.

Will have to tell you rat/mouse story later too...!

Big love.

xx

Just running on to say to WG that that sounds like a very positive and practical step - you've just got temporarily off track (unsurprising, given all the emotional shifting about that a baby causes) and think you should have every confidence that this will enable you to get a few things out in the open and sort them out in a 'safe' environment. However, I know nothing about couples' counselling and don't have any names - really really sorry. I wish I did! I have a good friend who goes to a psychoanalyst and she might know of someone but other than Relate (which may not be the best, I do not know) I've not a clue.

There's loads more I want to say to people and will be back on very shortly, just having a rather busy day. Katie, are you feeling any better today, lovey?

hello all..

MOM & Urbane lovelytohave you both back, and congrats to mom on being clackered up

trace soglad you had a lovely time away and WOW to Mrtrace. I guarantee that DH will be nowhere near as impressive when I go away at the end of the month.

Rubes Sorry about your back, and your meltdown the other day. I hope you feel better today.

Avo I found DS dipping his dummy in the loo the other day and then in his mouth. Thankfully I had recently cleaned it and DD was at school, so she hadn't forgotten to flush. Even so its pretty gross.

WG Sorry things are all a bit rubbish at the mo with DH. I hope youmanage to sort things out soon.

katie hope you are better soon...hows the no-smoking going?

Oh and myEbay, shoe dilema...well the shoes sold for £23. So I put the money towards some new ones for DD. Well this woman isn't going to find out...I hope!!!

WG, just a quickie as I am at work with lots to do. I have a name for someone in SE london, but think you are from the frozen north. I will ask my friend who is a divorce lawyer who would, I'm sure, know of people who do couples counselling. Where exactly are you looking to go in terms of distance? Failing that, anyone who comes via the Tavistock Institute is usually fairly reliable, though they tend to be more psychotherapy rather than marriage type things.

Big love to you darling. I am sure we could probably benefit from something similar, so think you are extra brave for actually sorting it out and doing something to make things better.

WG - I'm so sorry to hear you're having issues - but well done you for grabbing the bull by the horns and speaking to your DH about it. Definitely sensible and brave. I'm afraid I don't know of any counsellors, but it might be worth asking your GP about it? I know when I had to go and see one some years ago, I got a referral through my doctor.

Katie - hope you're feeling better soon.

Avo - why the name change??! But I wouldn't worry about the loo brush thing - they're pretty sturdy, these little nippers!

We have mice. I mean, I've known we have for a bit, but on Sunday night, I heard rustling coming from our larder cupboard, so DH was investigating and our cornflake box started moving on its own.... DH and I grabbed weapons - him the dustpan and brush and me a rolled up newspaper. WE picked up the cornflake packet and were watching it moving and listening to the rustling, trying to decide our best course of action, when suddenly a mouse leapt out of the top and scarpered... DH promptly whacked at it with his dustpan and I was giggling uncontrollably. Then it came towards me and instead of being any use at all, I shrieked and ran to the other end of the room, all the while giggling pathetically! DH couldn't believe it. And I was the one with the useful weapon. So DH chased it up the kitchen and took another whack at it with the dustpan, which smashed. The mouse disappeared into a hole and we both sat there crying with laughter. It was hilarious! We've put down poison behind the cooker now, and hoping that has some effect. And thrown out all our cereals and I've bought some glass containers to keep the new ones in. It was bloody hilarious, I don't mind saying. And I don't really mind mice, so am not losing sleep over it!

sybs - thanks for thinking of us. am looking at relate, and have asked a couple of other people we know who have had counselling to get their person to recommend someone. maybe your SE London person could recommend a north london person? good thinking on the tavistock - will look into that, too.

Beans your mouse story made me giggle hysterically.
New job was great, basically this guy is paying me to sit and listen to him talk for six hours a week! I only managed about 10 minutes of filing, but he seems happy so no-one's complaining. The morning was interspersed with me blowing my noise noisily and often which was a little embarassing, but better than sniffing away I suppose. But no, I am not feeling better unfortunately, but thanks for asking.
DD is settling a little at the CM's at last. She does still scream when I leave her, and is not that interested in playing or eating whilst there, but at least she is not crying for quite as long now.
I'm afraid that the not smoking has gone seriously to pot, in fact it did over a week ago, but I didn't dare tell you lot! However, on the list for tomorrow's docs appointment is a request for some Zyban to see if that helps.
Daisy Hurrah for Ebay, I'd have done exactly the same.

Just popping on quickly as I'm supposed to be cooking supper but just wanted to say:

Congratulations to MoM and

Avo your poo thread has had me in stitches .

Bookmarking but just wanted to say WG do GPs know about this sort of thing or even HV, long shot I know but they are all HP in the end aren't they.

Well bit behind as Beans has suggested the same thing.

Beans that was so funny, I always shriek at a high pitch when I see a mouse and scream at DH to kill it. I think DH quite likes it as he gets to protect his helpless female and be all brave.

DS1 came into the kitchen today to announce that his 'pussy is dirty'. It's terrible but I couldn't stop giggling. He then told DH when he got home that his 'electric pussy is dirty'. DH's face was priceless. Is that bad that we giggled about it. DS1 was quite miffed that we found his distress at having a dirty mechanical battery operated cat so amusing.

Gotta go DS2 is throwing one.

veggie and beans - you had be giggling today! Katie well done on job and don't beat yourself up on the cigs. Better luck next time. Hi Sybs and Jam and everyone.

Sorry to rush on again with no personals. DD2 is vomitting profusely. Huge voms every 45 mins for the last few hours. No fever but v listless. Do you guys think this might be loo brush related or just a virus? Am v worried about her right now .

veggie I'd have been laughing too at the dirty pussy . In fact on Friday Lucy asked DH and I how to make 'cockporn' - meaning popcorn We had to hold it together until she'd gone!!!!
wg well done you on addressing the situation with DH. I'm no help with recommending anyone but I really hope it's constructive. I think it's a huge positive that your DH has agreed to it. Thinking of you.
katie lol at you not wanting to admit to us that you were smoking! I can't imagine how difficult it is to give up, and to try to do that and start a new job and be unwell all at the same time...don't be harsh on yourself.

avocadoes if she's listless I'd get her checked out. Whether it's loo brush related or not they can easily become dehydrated when they're so young. I guess it could be related but it's also the time of year for pukey bugs too, so could easily be a coincidence. Either way it's frightening and no doctor would think it unreasonable to get her checked out. Is she weeing still?

Avocadoes, sounds very similair to DS' vomming bug last week horrendous constant vommititng for about 6 hours then a bit tired and sad for 24hours. If you are really concerned call NHS Direct they are fairly on the ball where little ones are concerened.

Just rocking away to the TOTP2 80s special and reliving all those school discos. Ace. Going to race through what I was going to say and see if I can finish before supper is ready.

Urbane - if you think that book is brill I'd love to borrow it. I do have to clarify that I wasn't toothbrush scrubbing for the hell of it I only do stuff like that under absolute duress as I am very very lazy. The radiators were thick with gooey black grime and literally cannot be painted until it's gone, and sugar soap and a sponge wasn't getting me anywhere. We aren't in there yet, no. Still a long way to go...

Kayz - how is DS2 now?

Avo - you are working your way through all the A veggies I like. Your DD2 loobrush story is a real showstopper. The bleach will be very very dilute so I wouldn't worry a jot - and as for the other stuff...I think it will give her nothing more than a stonking immune system. But...bleugh...

JJ - I did laugh at the idea of Greece being deadly for a preggo lady. Dear oh dear.

Veggie - Happy Mother's Day for yest! Will avoid commenting on your DS1's special predicament

Turnip - aaaaah, The Spaniards Your day sounds great.

Trace - a gold star to your DH! Wowzers. I am so glad your church weekend was good. That is smashing.

Katie - oh, blast the fags, try again when you are feeling in better shape. Sounds like the job will be good, though!

Kiwi - hope you have a lovely time in Cornwall. Lots of r&r!

Rubes - don't let your bro put you off names you like - tell him you don't want to talk about it any more with him as he is spoiling them for you! It's up to you and your DH, seriously. It's what YOU like, sod everyone else, seriously! Hope your back is easing.

Effie - still haven't told my family about clackerdom. Ulp. Er, I will though...soon... Has your DH hired anyone yet or are you still wading through hapless applicants?

Jam - did I read this wrong or is your DS2 playing rugby too? How cool! My little flower can barely lift a sippy cup!

Daisy - I think you still have the moral highground with the Ebay sale because of what you spent the proceeds on. I mean, you could have spent it on Bombay Sapphire.

Beans, was about to start waxing lyrical about your mice but my supper is ready! Get one of those plug in things that emits a tone they don't like - they're brilliant.

WG, I will be back on later as I wanted to say something else to you.

Avo, Lucy chewed on a loo brush when she was 2.5 and was profusely sick in a very smart restaurant in Italy about an hour later. I would think that if it were to do with the loo brush chemicals or indeed poo, she would have been sick yest. We've just had DD2 with a vomiting bug all weekend and she sounded similar, but she's 3 and so can communicate. I'd try some water to see if a few sips stay down, but if your instincts are raised, I'd say OOH doc without delay. Thinking of you.

Katie, as a reformed smoker can I recommend the Allan Carr books? Brilliant, very effective and you smoke while you are reading them. I can send them to you if you'd like.

Trace the cockporn is brilliant. I also loved Veggie's pussy. Best I can offer tonight is Lucy saying "what's a bugger?" after I referred to a driver who cut me up as a cheeky one. Could have been worse if I'd said fucker I suppose. I must watch my foul mouth.

Daisy - well done on the shoes. I've just sold an old Boden coat which has been in my wardrobe unworn for 6 years for £67. The milky bars are on me!

Must go and put the dinner on. It's got so late and DH still not home. Oh well, wine beckons. Not good for a monday night.

Back later.

Oooh, Avo, hope she improves. I think NHS Direct too.

Hi LadyT, how are you? Look forward to a natter later. I am deeply impressed that you are still keeping it a secret at 19w. You must be SO self controlled on the food front. Puts me to shame.