Dec 08 ladies getting re-clackered, with tantrums from toddlers we're sure to be knackered

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Loved your title rubs
Never started a thread before so hope this works...can anybody find it?
hello....

Yes, Veggie, we both agreed he'd got her number quite nicely. I am grateful for the referral as I'm hoping for practical tips. My skin is still dry but the oil is wrokgin well. However, the thirst is still quite bad - I must have had 5 pints of fluid today in drinks alone, and I'm still thirsty, so will ask consultant on Mon.

I agree, ZJ, the scans are lovely. I think I have another at 30something weeks though.

Am definitely going now or DP will deck me.

I?ve also x posted. Great news about the nice doctor LadyT Rubes I couldn?t have handled anyone staying just after DD was born, and having to deal with 2 LO?s ? you definitely don?t need anyone fighting in the house as well. I actually think staying with her sister is a good idea, and even better that they will be waiting for you to invite them over. It should be on your terms, not theirs.

Just seen this story on the bbc website and found it very interesting

Oh, and SL I?ve just sent you my phone no on fb. You?re going on hols soon aren?t you ? so if you can send me a text with your number I can confirm the details of next week?s meet up (yay ? next week!)

Oh lady I was at Next, Mamas and Papas, and somewhere else - it's all a blur. I've really pigged out recently though, and I was looking awful, just awful. I have therefore had carrot and Corriander soup of dinner only after my 1000 cal lunch (obviously before the shopping) C & C soup only 57 cal's a seving btw and YUM!
Thanks for your kind offer but you will be heavily pregnant yourself my love, besides I have mil who is off work and itching to stay longer than my hospital stint, however I am getting dh to enforce that she doesn't need to (well 1 night won't hurt as she has been a bit of a Mother Teresa of late to be fair so I don't mind really about her) PLUS dh will be on paternity leave which I have reiterated is not traslated to rest from work to concentrate on training for future bike races while mother in law stays and cooks
I'm going to have a chat to my parents about it and then regardless just tell him that I have decided I don't want any visitors for at least a couple of weeks irrespective of any fighting or not - putrely as I want some alone time.

oh lots of spelling mistakes (purely I meant)

yeah I can't stop them being at her sisters so they can do that if they want but I hope they will take me seriously... They are supposedly flying back 2 weeks after anyway, so they can just stay with her for the whole time. I just suspect my db will say I'm overreacting and "lived in England too long etc )

Rubs he can say what he likes. Tell him to build a bridge and get over it. You can never have those first weeks again (clearly Veggie wants them back again), you can always see your DB another time but DD is most important in all this (well you are but it sounds more respectful is I say DD).

Does anyone elses LOs talk in their sleep, DS2 has been giggling and actually talking in his babyveggie language. One of his words which is kind of a ny sound followed by a ssscch sound which he makes by rolling his Tongue back between his teeth, well anyway he just called this Nysschh word out at full volume. He is so funny. He often has a good rowdy giggle in his sleep too.

We just realised we were supposed to get DHs new work car on Monday. It's a VW Touran with loads of extra spec. In his postion he could get a really good car with lots of extras so we got the lot from the list. It's a perfect family car. However, we also just discovered that he pays €500 a month out of his salary to use it privately. So now he has told them it will just be for work use. So he will be driving a great family cat just for work. Bummer! Well that's if it ever arrives.

Oops car not cat. Clearly my husband does not drive cats.

Yes I agree with you Vag. Totally. I'm really worried at going "back on my word" but having said that, I guess in light of todays events I can say that that has made me re-think things.... i'm still going to run it by my parents. (I'm up waiting to see if they can chat as I've text them but they are in WA and it's only 10 to 6am!) They are coming over about 3-4 weeks post birth and I think they are the first visitors I'd like to see tbh.
No talking in his sleep here - but he did froth at the mouth in his sleep in the car on the way home tonight!
Lady I meant to say AGES ago I have SHOCKING dry skin. I get very baby-oil-tastic in the shower (but make sure you wipe it off the tiles after as it's very slippery) and also my lips and fingers are really really cracked. I use nipple cram on my lips over night when I remember and Bio-oil on my face and tey to moisturise often but it still doesn't seems to help that much. Oh and I'm not annoyed with spot! Don't worry not in the slightest - would take alot more than that!

Oops rubes was obviously not the right time to tease you....sorry!!

I was interested in your DS's transfer to big bed, actually, but never got round to posting about it.

Sorry you have had a crap day, and I am sure that even if you think you look enormous you actually look like a tall willowly glam pregnant lady. Unlike me, but I am avoiding looking in the mirror too much. And also eating too much shit.

I have just skim read as loads of posts while watching jnr apprentice, so haven't totally got the jist of the Brother SIL story. But don't have people to stay right after the birth, I concur. Will have to read again tomorrow.

veggie is the other way round here re lucozade test, you take the lucozade yourself and then have a blood test and if you fail you go to hosp to have GTT where they give you the drink and blood test. Or something. Dunno as i didn't have it last time!! But will be a faff. I only just failed it though so I am actually not really worried about anything being wrong.

Blimey! I had a brief skim early evening yesterday and this morning there are three more pages to read!! Pingu it's lovely to see (sort of) you back!

Black out blind seems to have helped a bit - DD was crying a bit on and off from 4 (which is normal as I'm trying to get rid of that 4/5am feed) but not really demanding action until 6ish so that's better I guess. As DH said it might be a case of slowly creeping back to her normal wake up time rather than sudden jump.

We're off to Brighton today to our favourite restaurant, hooray!

Hey so Beans and any other London-or-thereaboutsers - how about that postponed Wetlands trip on Monday?? Weather still supposed to be lovely for it...

Rubes: you are right to insist on some time on your own before visitors. Your DB can get lost, as Veggie says you want to make the most of your time eith DD (gets broody at the thought of snuggling a tiny baby). If he really wants to see you can he come over before the wedding?

Oh and I got a nice summery skirt in fat face t'other day and thought it would be poss for pg ladies as it has a wide jersey waistband you can roll down. On the short side but also on sale.

Oops better post before train moves!

kiwi, glad morning a bit later. T pulled a 5.30 today but i think due to teeth as he was also really unhappy in the night.
which restaurant are you going to in brighton? could do with some recommendations. if you're free after lunch, do pop in for a cuppa!

rubes just want to reiterate what others have said. I totally get where you are coming from about being on your own after DD's birth. Gosh, if they have a problem with your request Ithink they are being bloody unreasonable! Oh and although I am not pg, I attempted to put some summer trousers on this morning, and my lord I have pilled some pounds on since last summer. Now where did I put that apple......

Spot - Terre a Terre. We're both vegetarian so it's our culinary Mecca...! [starts drooling] Mind you am on a diet at the mo so I don't think that will help...

Oh my gosh, Pubes - definitely ask them to stay at sister's down the road, then they can come and visit, but still give you some space. I'm amazed you even entertained it - you're clearly kinder than me. This time round, I'm going to be entirely selfish and have only immediate family in the first week. With DD, DH invited 35 people round in the first 2 weeks and I was bloody knackered. NOT having that again. Felt rotten and miserable. This time I'm going to be entirely selfish.

I'm definitely keen to go to Wetlands and could do this Monday yes. Can anyone else?

xx

Oh and Lady - that doctor's visit sounds like it was a proper comfort. I have to say, babies develop in their own time and when she's ready to walk, she will. You can't hurry it!

I'm off to see a friend in Fulham this morning. She had a baby in March and I didn't buy her a present. I haven't had time to get her one the last couple of days, so was going to give her a teddy that a friend of mine gave us for our new one - is that awful? We've just got so many teddies!!!

morning all,
Thanks so much for all your input it is v helpful.
Daisy It's not that they wouldn't understand if I'd said it from the beginning, it's just that I said as long as they give me a few days that it would be fine (ie they are planning that they stay with her sister which is about 30 mins away, until about 5 days post op) but now I feel that I don't want any visitors at all until when my parents arrive which will be 3-4 weeks after the op and I'm worried i'm changing their plans however that said, I feel that I can say I re-thought it in light of his dp's phone calls and it just made me realize I don't want any visitors until the time my parents will be here. Just don't know whether to put it in an email(dh suggests) or how to say it etc.
Beans - I guess my brother is immediate family though (but his girlfriend obviously isn't) But I know what you mean.
I should be ok for Monday - I just want to check with dh what he's got on and make sure he doesn't need the car.

fine about the teddy beans - do it!

Beans I have a cupboard with excess gifts that I, err, recycle! Much less wasteful... After all there are only so many teddies a girl can need. In my DD's case - none.

God alive I will never catch up.

Lovely to see you Pingu, NJAN, JJ (nice photos)

Rubes honeslty I think the time is now here gor you to be utterly selfish with your DB abd his DP that sort of behaviour is not on. I would say you are being perfectly reasonable to tell them to in LadyT's words to cock off. When we had DS1 I had a 3 day labour gave birth at 3am was home the follwoing morning by 12 and at 3 had 7 members of our family over. Madness! With DS2 I still came home immediatly after squeezing him out but apart form the inlaws and my parents told everyone else we would see them over the Christmas period and that we wouldnt be having anyone at ours for the first week after he was born. Much better way more relaxed BF established fairly quickly. And we all bonded as a family.

LadyT hurrah for a sensible GP. Minature LadyT is fine. The pead wil give you a few extra tips on getting calories in. You are doing a steller job.

Tracwe how are oyur girls today it is ghastly when they are poorly.

Right must crack on.

Oh and Veggie wowzers on your bike escapades I do 1 swim, 1 body pump and 1 spinning a week and am on my knees gawd knows how you manage to cycle with all that weight. Your bum must look AMAZING.

OK really must get on.

Where is the farkin sun, heatwave my arse have put my shorts back in teh closet and got my trews out.

Oh bolloxs Kiwi. We too are suffering the early mornings 5 is a regular occurance. We have adopted Avo's crack den style. Blackout blinds black out curtains. Seriously you need night vision goggles to see anything in there. Also have put him back in a vest and PJ's and 1 tog sleeping bag. Its working slowly yesterda y we got a 7am this morning a grumble at 5 then back off until 6.30

Oh also Daisy bloody nora even the reading of oyur poocapades had me retching.

Ok really am going to get going have loads to do and not enough hours in the day.

Jam, (and all) the original plan was they weren't coming for a week after anyway so should I just stick to that? Is not come at all a little harsh? Most of you have said "at least a week" so I'm wondering if I should just go with that? Ill be home either 27th or 28th and the orig plan was the 1st...

Rubs what do you want, don't compromise because you are worried about upsetting them. If you don't want them to come at all I see no problem with the staying at her sisters and then popping over to see you a couple of times for quick visits. Maybe after a week you could all have a day out even. I think if there wasn't all these ishoos a week would still not be long enough before having house guests. Remember your trying to establish sleeps, feeding all that PLUS this time you will have poor little DS suddenly having to share his time with you, when your stretched between DD & you DB& his DP. But if on top of that they are causing tension can you imagine how it will be for him. No I think they would be unreasonable to not respect you wishes. They are getting cheap flights for goodness sake, that's enough. Tell them what you want and don't beat yourself up about it.

Morning chatterboxes!

Kiwi - I love Terre a Terre and I am not even veggie. Nevertheless I find all their dishes exciting and satisfying. Have you ever been to The Gate by Hammersmith Bridge? It is similar and v near you.

Spot - another restaurant I wld recommend in Brighton is Due South on the seafront. Have you been?

LadyT - BA strike is off so Sweden seems safe again. Last night I went put with CD to try on wedding dresses for her Italian nuptials. While zipping her into a particularly fetching number her phone rang and it was you! Sadly by the time we found the phone you had rung off but she will call you back today. It was a funny coincidence and afterwards she asked again how we met. I always say "a postnatal group" but we might want to make sure we say the same thing and our DP's are briefed! Do you think we shld be truthful? I am strangely reluctant.

Daisy - I bow down to your poo story. I am glad these kind of things happen to others!

Trace - how is Lu now? I hope the bug doesn't spread. DD2's sickness extravaganza didn't catch anyone else (tough wood) so there is hope.

Rubes - I agree with everything the Vegmeister said about those newborn baby days being sacred and unrepeatable. Stand your ground and let your little family settle down together without fractious rellies ruining it.

I wanted to do more personals but have run out of time. I am wearing a tiny smer dress today and I am freezing! Might have to go and buy a cardi before I enter our over airconditioned office.