Dec 09 - We've found our fingers, we've found our toes, what happens next nobody knows

[Claire236]

Starting new thread before we run out of room. Now to link from the old one. Could be interesting

Obv leaving a child to scream for hours would harm them but I can't see how leaving for a little while to help them learn to settle themselves can be harmful. Hope not anyway.

Got 2 poorly boys. ds1 had been coughing for a few days but that's not unusual for him. He's got home from school & laid on the sofa feeling sorry for himself ever since. Coughing, head hurts, tummy hurts. ds2 has progressed from unsettled to having a cough & he sounds like his throat is sore too. They've both had Calpol & ds2 is now asleep. ds2 was up at 2am, 5am then for good at 6:15am. Hoping for a better night tonight.

Tried ds2 with some water earlier which he shockingly seemed to like. I wonder if it was just a one off though.

When I started weaning I only did a few teaspoons at a time. For the first week I only gave it once a day then gradually progressed to fruit, veg & 3 feeds a day. Can't believe ds2 will be 6 months in 2 weeks time. How did that happen?

Sorry to hear your boys are poorly Claire and hope they feel better soon.

That article recently about leaving babies to cry said if you leave them crying for more than 30 minutes without going in to them and giving them any reassurance is when it can cause problems. I've never left Imogen for more than 10 minutes so far without going back in - even if I only pick her up and put her down again so hope that is OK!

Imogen has just started making these wierd growling noises - I think it's just a new noise but dh says she sounds like ET and she goes between growling and squealing at the moment which is v funny!

Naps are the best here either - it's better when we're are home and she's in her cotbed but other than that they are often few and far between and v short. Maybe it's the weather...?!?

lee i completely agree with both your last comments. if you are leaving them a little tocry all you are doing is teaching them to switch off and settle themselves when they need to sleep!!! Its not evil to do it in a controlled way......i see it as better for them.....they absolutely NEED to sleep so sometimes you have to teach them..... i did it with ds at 5 weeks during the day..... it took very little time at all in the end an dnow he sleeps well during day....he may not always seep for that long but he will go down no problems at all.......i know i am lucky where sleep is concerned but my dd never slept day or night ad at 4 months she was admitted to hospital and you know what they did......let her cry!!!!! she came back a different babe. dont feel guilty guys we all love our babies and would never let them suffer!!!!!!

As for weaning ......again we know our babies and are not going to give them sausage and chips yet !!!!! LOL

Imogen has decided she wasn't going to nap this afternoon, so I have put her in front of that baby einstein DVD and she is loving it!!!!

YEH FOR BABY EINSTEIN!!!! I did consider putting it on repeat.....we have the mozart one!!!

Am sat here with furiously crossed fingers at the mo. Catherine went down at 7.15 without a problem and so far asn't made a noise. Please, please, please let us have gone back to the pre-weekend routine. I can cope with midnight and 5am feeds if I can have a little bit of evening to myself.

Am a little tempted to wake her at 10 when I go to bed for a dreamfeed to see if I can get her to go through though....

Never done that before.

Ooooooh GS - I toy with that idea on a regular basis, although she doesn't always sleep that long! If you do it, you have to let us know if it works...

I have my fingers crossed for you (and me!) too...

Pre 'weekend from hell', I could pretty much count on 7pm till around midnight and then another sleep till between 3am and 5am usually...

I was thinking that maybe if I fed her at 10pm, she might go till 6am? I could cope with that.

You know it won't work like that though, I'll just end up doing and extra feed

She's had bright red shiney cheeks all afternoon so I think she's teething. Funilly enough, we were all at the dentist today too. DH is blaming his filling on my love of coke

Still, I'm going to try and give it up. After all, if I'm mainlining caffiene, that might be why Catherine won't sleep!?

oh god thats been no good then!

funny i was just coming on to say about teething!? im sure Brodies are trying hard to break through!

this weekend we finallllly sorted car! we had no choice our old one failed badly on mot! so now i have a lovely new to me zafira! im in love!!

I dreamfeed ds2 at around 11pm & he then goes until around 8am. Or he did up until the last few nights. Last time he didn't have a dreamfeed (dh was supposed to be doing it but fell asleep on the sofa) he woke up at 2:30am which is far too antisocial for my liking. Of course we've been dreamfeeding for ages, don't know what would happen if you tried to start now. A friend terrified me the other day by telling me her dd started refusing her dreamfeed at around 6 months & waking up in the early hours instead. Please don't let ds2 start doing that. If he does it will probably start the night before I go back to work. You know what children are like for impeccable timing.

Brodie has 10.30/11 dreamfeed but he can still wake at 2ish through to 4ish

Well my fingers obviously weren't crossed well enough - Imogen refused to nap this afternoon so was so tired at bedtime she fell asleep feeding and despite my best efforts didn't feed very long. She has therefore just woken up to be fed again - I have fed her and am just pretending it's part of the previous feed.

I've been convinced that Imogen has been teething for weeks, but I think maybe I'm just using that as an excuse for her rubbish sleeping and the fact she gnaws and licks anything she can get her hands on! I also convince myself her cheeks are red, but I can't actually see any sign of any teeth ...

Good news on the car madmissy!

Hi,
Sorry been away a couple of days... have read all the new posts but would have to post an essay to respond to all...

All well here. Holly is definitely teething, like you Hendo, no signs of cutting teeth but she is just not herself and very snotty this week. She woke a few times last night and I could hear her coughing due to the build up... she is very good natured about it all but there is only so many times I can try to suck snot without her getting annoyed (so sorry if tmi - the things we do eh?) I have struggled keeping her awake past 6.30pm the last few nights - and she has been napping every two hours for at least an hour every day too... can I worry that she's napping too much? Have used her sleeping bag for the first time tonight - I was still swaddling her before... she loved it - but has taken to gnawing on her blanket for teething relief then pulling it over her head too so I didn't feel it safe. I will see how she does with the sleeping bag tonight.

GS though - I hope you feel a bit better about letting Catherine cry a little bit - as she did fall asleep and obviously needed too

ds is awake for 2 hours and then needs a nap.... i think its ok to do that???!!!! i read somewhere that up to 4 hours a day is normal and ok for napping??!! not sure we get near that though!!!!

Hi all

Hope you had a great weeked. Theis thread has been getting busy again.Just a quick post anyway... Had a great weekend up in northumberland. In a house with 4 other couples and 3 other children, all under two.. Was really good, slightly chaotic at times but great laugh. we had lost of walks, lots of fresh air, and far too much food and drink! All in all was a brill weekend and anna was really good too, so that was a result.
Anyway, we came to set off back this afternoon and the engine warning light came on whilst we were on the A1, just north of newcastle. We ended up having to have the RAC out and then be towed all the way back to york. A jouney that should have taken 2 hours, took us 6! What a nighmare. And the best of it is, our car is absolutely brand new, and when i say new, I mean as in we picked it up from the dealership last weekend, with 50 miles on the clock. grrrrrrrr....
Anyway, on a happier note, we are swimming again tomorrow, so hoping it's as much of a success as last week.

What are the nets you are all talking about? I must have missed that convo.

Apls for poor typing...getting tired [sleepy face].

Are these the nets for food? What sort of things do you all put in them?

Lee36 - sorry about your car. That's a lot of money. I usually take ds2 out when he has days like that. It gets me down otherwise. You have done something, you've looked after your unhappy baby.

Does anyone else ever get involved in threads on here then wish they hadn't bothered due to the patronising, superior attitude of some posters.

Yes, occasionally. I tend to then hide them. Which thread?

This one

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/961264-In-refusing-to-send-DCs-to-school-with-plastic-w ater

I appear to be the only one on MN who lets my children drink anything other than water. I think the earlier posters who let their children drink squash have done what you said GS rather than arguing with the water police.

yes claire.... have seen you on a couple but am swearing myself away from bf/ff ones and weaning ones cos i have actually ended up in tears over them....... have also taken ones i have been on off watch.....which particular variety are the worst. i like my safe haven post natal thread so am staying here to talk and discuss xx

Yes, I know what you mean about the threads. I often write a post out and then delete it, as you just know it is going to lead to hassle. Which isn't really great is it!

Lee, really sorry about your car. It is a real pain isn't it-why is everything associated with cars so blimmin expensive?! RAC came and towed ours to the dealership this morning. God knows how long it will be away for.
DH was not impressed as when the courtesy car arrived last night, after specifically asking for a large car, we ended up with a tiny litte one. For a start DH is 6ft3 and plus we need a car that we can fit the push chair in. Sometimes I just despair about customer service!

Went swimming again this morning; Anna was dunked under twice and she was fine. Looked really shocked, but no tears! Hoorah!

I can promise that you're not the only one Claire !

Having a quiet day today, pils are having dd this afternoon so I've just been pottering about and sorting out bits and pieces. Put dd's lovely school photos into frames .

Ds's napping is pretty hopeless, as was dd's. He sleeps in the pram, the car or on me (but wakes within 5 min of being put down). Still wakes up loads at night too...

Told dp to f&*k off last night, I'd been trying to stand up whilst carrying a wine glass and a bowl and bf ds. The wine glass was a casulalty and when I asked him to help me (I was barefoot and still bf) he came to help, started to pick some pieces of broken glass up, looked at me and then said "you've still got one arm" [anger]! We've made up now but how lazy and selfish can you be???

that just sounds like my dp Ladidadi.... i have a bad back and ds is 23lbs and he watchesd me struggle to get off the floor with him..... telling me to stop whinging and get to the doctors (already been and need to lose 2 stone first!)

chuckling at the bf and wine thing though. i have done that myself thinking.....well it cant get through that quick!!!!! Proper multitasking hey!!!!