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November 09 - rolling, laughing and cutting teeth ... but us mama's are still not getting sleep!!

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scarlotti · 11/04/2010 09:14

New thread for us

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scarlotti · 09/05/2010 10:02

Ninja lord, what a tragic story. Will be interesting to see what the box says in the co-op later. I've been giving him family food when it's suitable but I don't add any salt to cooking and mainly make from scratch.
Ursi unfortunately there are too many of us here for me to make Ioan's stuff differently unless I do a huge cook off. He had spag bol yesterday that was left over from our dinner.

Laugs think it was you who asked - I use tap water and it's fine. I am also quite bereft at the lack of bf I now do and am terrified my milk will go. Am so not ready to give it up and am getting quite concerned at how little he now feeds. I am almost just down to morning and night, with a dream feed but that's formula.

We had so many dirty nappies yesterday I'm wondering if there's something wrong. Literally every one was, so about 7 in a day. Don't know what's happening.

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Pavlov · 09/05/2010 10:03

ursi our diet changed completely when we had the children. Where we were never so bothered by organic, or where the food came from, we have become so much more aware. We no longer eat farmed fish for example. and like you (I don't eat red meat at all) we would spend more money on DDs meat than on DHs meat! Although, in reality this also changed as DH does not so much red meat so now he ate the good stuff too. Changed now he is not working but DD still gets the better stuff and so will DS.

How is Paula doing with the beef? Has she tried it yet?

SirBoobAlot · 09/05/2010 10:13

Thing is I can't afford to buy organic all the time. I do try, but especially the price of meat... I'd have to get it for everyone, so that on top of the price of everything else Bryn needs and the money I give my parents every month... It makes me feel very guilty. But I do make everything from scratch, I never add salt to what I make, so I just have to hope that's good enough

Trikken · 09/05/2010 10:43

we cant afford organic either, I would if I could but it would be too much so I dont dwell on it. but I do make our meals from scratch too (mostly) so like scarlotti can make sure there is no salt etc in the food and the adults can season it themselves.

ursigurke · 09/05/2010 11:00

scarlotti, I can only imagine how difficult it becomes when you have different ages to "feed". I kind of do the opposite now and eat Paula's left over And I'm in love with our freezer. Actually the beef that I prepared and pureed yesterday was enough for 43 portions, some a really tiny, not even an ice cube, some are a bit bigger, as I was running out of tubs.
I hope it's nothing with Ioan. Was the nappy content runny? I think it is fine as long as it is not getting too runny.

Pavlov, as my mum was always very concerned about food quality, I'm already at least aware of it. So actually, even our meat is usually a good one. I think especially meat (and fish if I would like fish) are "dangerous". So I'd rather eat it less often but if I do, then I go for a good one.
But I do not want to know what I get when I go went to a restaurant or when just buying a sandwich.
Oh, and today will be day1 of the beef experience. And considering how expensive it was, she will only leave that table when she finished her meal . well, I guess, it will take a while until she is used to it.

sirboob, I agree, it's very expensive and it is really unfair that it is simply too expensive for some people. But I think too, it's already good to at least sometimes go for organic (I'm far from eating 100% organic), this way you will still eat less of the bad stuff.
And I think, making everything from scratch is actually more important. This way you really know what's in it, without salt or other additives.
I suppose there is lots of high quality baby food but it is just really expensive.

Ninjacat · 09/05/2010 11:02

SirBoob don't feel guilty. It's not essential that they eat organic.

I don't like the idea of blended meat so we use lentils as protein and they are cheap as chips.

Pavlov · 09/05/2010 11:30

Oh sirboob i am sorry I did not mean to sound all pompous and imply that anything other than organic is bad for our babies. I was more agreeing with ursi that our diets and view of food changed when we had DD. We do not buy organic now either for the most part, but we live in Devon so we buy local which is just as good imo. My mother bought the cheapest cuts of meat, but she would make the best food for us. It was about, and is about for me, thinking about what goes into their tummies and making food enjoyable (not the ready meals we ate a lot of pre children) That was what I had meant

And did you know that frozen peas and carrots are actually higher in nutrients than fresh? once veg is picked, it loses a significant amount of nutrients and if frozen immediately more is preserved.

Pavlov · 09/05/2010 11:36

ninja I love lentils. I did a dhal the other night and it was gorgeous, I am going to do it again for DD but minus the spice.

wook · 09/05/2010 11:55

In a state of terror now as H is napping after munching a marmite soldier for breakfast. Was pleased to have another marmite baby (always think if they like marmite they'll still get enough vit b12 when they go through the inevitable teenage 'meat is murder' stage) and did not think properly about how salty it is. [worry emoticon]
Dreadful story which made me both sad and angry (not with the parents btw, what they must be going through)

She's six months old today! Hurrah!

SirBoobAlot · 09/05/2010 11:59

Oh no, I know! It just does. Its the same with clothes and equipment. The majority of the things (well, actually, everything, aside from a new basics and the cot!) I have for Bryn are second hand. And although I know logically that it doesn't matter, and I appreciate so much all the generosity I've been shown, especially from people on here, it makes me feel bad because I'm not capable of providing the "best" IYSWIM? Its silly and materialistic, but hey.

Saying that, even if I could afford to I doubt I would buy expensive clothes as he poos through them outgrows everything so quickly anyway! Its more not having the opportunity to choose not to, I guess. Again, totally illogical

Sorry, mini rant. And another reason I'm not going back to the mum and baby group

Banana and Mango for lunch today, definitely a favourite

Ninja ohh thanks, hadn't thought of that

SirBoobAlot · 09/05/2010 12:02

Wook I'm sure a single Marmite solider will be fine - though personally I think you should feel ashamed of yourself, inflicting such a disgusting product on a baby I hate the stuff. DP loves it. Going to be interesting to see what Bryn thinks

wook · 09/05/2010 12:17

SirBoob Marnite is mmmmmmmmmyummy! You aremissing out. But seriously, am reminded to be less laid back about what H is eating- just because I'm not in that PFB mode of only allowing nutrition rich organic food to pass H's lips does not mean that marmite and ice cream are OK.

Just been to see ds(aged 4). He is sitting in his bedroom wearing a hoody listening to a CD. A Muse CD. When I peeped through the door he said 'Have you come up here to hassle me?' When did my four year old become an attitude laden teen???

wook · 09/05/2010 12:18

Marnite?! Marmite even

wook · 09/05/2010 12:19

I'm going to go and get ds and cuddle and tickle him until he sounds like a toddler again Can't have he and H BOTH growing up too fast.

Pavlov · 09/05/2010 12:24

sirboob we had mostly secondhand stuff for DD, and even less new stuff for bear cub. I did insist on buying him a new sun hat though as DH was having him wear DDs old pink one. I put my foot down and said he must have something new! I was astounded by the generosity of people with DD. Not quite the same with no.2 as people presumed we had it all, but did not as it was second or third hand when we had it first time. But, rather than buy a lot of that stuff new, we have realised that we just do not need it. But then, he has a sister to entertain him now, so does not need many toys . Babies will not remember whether their highchair was bought new or secondhand, or what they wore.

Pavlov · 09/05/2010 12:25

wook we knew DD was ready to be weaned last time as she crawled to a plate of marmite and toast and put it in her mouth One bit will be fine, it is a build up of too much salt that is a problem. Least you know he likes he

Ninjacat · 09/05/2010 12:38

I had the marmite fear. HV said a scraping is fine.

Mmm I love marmite. Spread it under beans on toast for a taste sensation

ursigurke · 09/05/2010 13:00

sirboob, second hand is actually much better! There are lots of chemicals in cloths and furniture, so if they are brand new the babies get more of them as if you have lots of second hand where lots of the chemicals has either been washed off or just evaporated (not sure if that's the right term).

Ah, it's difficult with those babies isn't it. But we shouldn't forget, there might well be something like an ideal or perfect world but it's not all about the best food, clothing or equipment. Having loving parents for example which all those babies of the Nov09 thread obviously have
(BTW it is mothersday in Austria, maybe actually in the whole continental Europe, not sure, so happy mothersday to all of you)

And Paula likes beef. Didn't eat the whole portion but she definitely liked the taste.

Pavlov · 09/05/2010 13:03

Happy Mothers Day ursi. It is the same in USA too.

SirBoobAlot · 09/05/2010 13:43

Wook my mum gave Bryn chocolate a few weeks ago She keeps telling me I'm moddy-coddling by not giving him jars on Heniz egg custard all the time But anyway - personally I'd eat ice cream all day, so I can see where H is coming from

Pavlov thanks, that's made me feel a bit better. I'm sure part of it is the massive insecurity complex I have fact I know everyone is especially judgemental about younger mums, so I feel I have to prove them wrong. Ridiculous, really! And at the idea of your chunky little man in a pink hat!!! Pictures, please

Thanks Ursi And happy mothers day!

The gaggle of boys have finally left. They went to sleep at... Wait for it... 0730 this morning. They were actually very good, as much as my dad was being an arse about asking for ten minutes quiet while I got Bryn to sleep (didn't think that was unreasonable, really!) - my little brother, being the proud uncle he is, should Bryn off to everyone, and told them they had to be quiet when Bryn was going down, and after a feed to make sure he's settled. Checked his night time feeding schedule with me, and on the dot the noise level dropped We might clash and drive each other crazy, but he's very good with Bryn. His "Happy Birthday, Uncle!" card has taken pride of place in the front room. Aww...

Pavlov · 09/05/2010 13:46

sirboob i have a picture of him in a pink babygro! We put him in one of DDs to see how similar they were!

SirBoobAlot · 09/05/2010 13:57

Did I mention you are my idol, Pavlov? What was the consensus?

Pavlov · 09/05/2010 14:16

bear cub has a poorly toe. The nail of his big toe was bent backwards, it has sort of grown that way, and then a couple days ago it came away from the skin. I pulled it off and it came away from half the nail, not ripped, but gently came away like it was not attached. No redness, no pain or anything. However yesterday a crust has formed over the place where the half a nail was and a little blister next to it, and it was red. I cleaned it and put savlon on it, and today it looks worse. half his toe is red and the crust seems like there is puss underneath/under the blister which is red.

It reminds me of an ingrowing toenail that has got infected, not sure if it warrants a gp appt or pharmacy (would do pharmacy if it was my toe, but he is a litttle baby, is there more risk of infection becoming serious? It is not distressing him at all. What do you guys think - gp or pharmacy?

scarlotti · 09/05/2010 14:17

SirB bless your brother!
Don't worry about what others think, or what you percieve they think about your parenting and being a young mum. No matter how old you are, someone will always have something to say. Just make sure you are doing what you think is important.

Another run of dirty nappies this morning - will they ever end?
Ioan's food is all up in the air today, DH got up with him and forgot to give him breakfast so all his meals are later. Going to just give easy going stuff today in case his tum is a little delicate.

Off to tesco in a minute, life is just so exciting!

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SirBoobAlot · 09/05/2010 14:30

Pavlov GP, if I were you. Bryn had a bad toe a while ago, they gave me some cream for it and it cleared up in days Poor thing.

Scalotti oh dear Hope it doesn't know his routine too out. Are they full nappies? Or just a little bit dirty?