DEC 08 - Welcome to the house of ill - We're riding a poonami

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This was the only thing I could remember some saying should be the next title!

Ooh, I'm definitely on for a Brighton meet up - we could do a day in late May - when I'm 8 months pregnant, but before the newbie arrives when I imagine I'll be slightly anti-social - I'd love that - and I'll be on maternity leave, so would be able to do any day - yes please!!!

Thanks for all tips on eczema - it is the strangest thing. She was covered in little red blotches last night, and this morning, they've gone. I wonder if this Epaderm is a miracle cream as it was such a quick clear up. but the spots hadn't gone rough yet, so maybe I stopped them in their tracks. And her face is really clearing up well. Although still there. It's worse by the end of the day as she gets so tired. But I will definitely be trying the oats in a muslin - what a great idea - thank you. I don't know about the dairy-free either, I'm afraid.

Effie - I would love a funky little jumper for the newbie - due in June, so might be quite a hot little bod. But who knows! God, I'm nervous about when it arrives when I think about it. I keep forgetting how useless and floppy they are!!!

Kayz - I'm so glad you popped on to see us - was worried about you. And I'm sorry about your news, but if you both think it's the right thing to do, then well done you and chin up.

Mom - GREAT to see you back and to hear all your news! I love a good long post!

We're off on an office jolly this afternoon - circus training - gutted I can't join in - although will be juggling. Then big piss up / meal in the evening. Clearly just the meal for me! But still, will be great to be out of the office. Then next week, I'm off for the week to see my sister and parents - road trip! Hurray hurrah! so today is my last day in the office until 23rd March. YAY! Must get all my work done before lunchtime. Oh, I haven't got any - ha!

xx

PS Flap flap - crow wings are back on today! Love the top!

good morning.
kayz thanks for updating us. Hope you have some practical support - will the boys stay with you? Thinking of you.
LadyT well done you on flying doing so well on your course and on being able to recognise it and congratulate yourself too. And well done Little O - welcome to a whole new world!
beans what on earth kind of job has circus training? Or am I missing something - is that a code for something else? Hope you have a fun day (caw caw) with your wings
wg that's amazing! I practised for months before the race for life a few years ago and gradually built myself up to 5k - and you've just done more than that straight off! Big cheers for you
mom what a mammoth post! You impress me - great to hear from you.
ZJ happy anniversary
rubs your posts at the moment are sooooo funny! You're always misunderstanding or saying something then changing your mind, and it just cracks me up - hope that doesn't offend you!
Effie I have no experience of anything celebrity or media related but I'm excited about your Moment - when is it?
Things here are a bit odd. I am not doing too well it seems - many tears in many situations . have cried at work, at home, in the playground, and even on the nurse at Lu's annual asthma check up yesterday I really can't help it. The nurse was lovely though so I didn't feel too ashamed. In fact she was Australian and I think i did mu usual thing of projecting Veggie's character onto any Australian accent, so that's why I was so easily open with her! And this morning I had an incident...I had taken the straps off P's high chair to wash them so put her in without them on. I left the room to take the cereal bowls out and heard her wail, so ran back in to find her siting on the table with my hot lemon tea (no milk to cool it) all over her I whipped her soggy clothes off and her little thighs were hot and red. I felt so bad and deserve to. She was happy and smiling within minutes and seemed completely fine - legs back to normal a few mins later - but how stupid am I to leave her when i know she's a mountaineer? I totally forgot there was a hot drink on the table, but even without that she could have fallen or anything. I feel really neglectful and stupid and am crying now just thinking about it again. My sleep is bad too - keep waking at 2 or 3 and being awake for hours. Sorry for this self-indulgant moan.
I need to rubs or beans to come on and make me laugh!
Am going into work late today as I'm over my hours, so having a lazy morning now the girls are at nursery/ school.
ok. will kick myself up the bum before I come back and lower the mood of the thread.

Oh Trace, you lovely, poor thing. You mustn't feel bad about that incident - we all have little things like that that happen and they make you feel terrible for a while - but she is fine - don't beat yourself up about it. You know you won't do it again and it is entirely an accident. I once heard a scream when I'd left DD on the sofa while I ran her bath, and came running downstairs to find her squished between the sofa and the coffee table, with a massive bump on her forehead, where she'd whacked it on the table when she threw herself forwards. It was when she was 6 months old, so I had even been thinking to myself upstairs seconds earlier that I shouldn't really be leaving her on the sofa like that any more as she was quite capable of throwing herself off. I was really shaken, but can now see that it was a total accident.

And if it's any consolation, I went to see the midwife a couple of weeks ago and when I walked in and she asked how I was, I burst into tears and didn't stop crying for the whole 30 minute consultation. Mine was a one off, but it must be so tough for you feeling so low all the time - what medication are you on? do you think you need to change it?

Re the circus training - we're real estate company, so it's obviously totally relevant. Not. But it is a jolly for us all to bond etc. - also known as the office reprobates getting hammered and behaving badly, while the geeks like me watch while staying smugly sober and leaving early. Oh to be a reprobate again!

Hey, here's a thought - I might not be able to join in with all the training due to preggyness, BUT with these crow wings, who needs a trapeze! I'll be able to fly without any help! Brilliant.

Trace, you are always so incredibly hard on yourself, lovey.

1. What's wrong with crying? Nowt that I can see...
2. As for P, well, a few months ago I left O on the sofa, went off briefly to do something and next thing I heard was a thump and she had leaned over and fallen flat on her face on the floor. As it was she was fine but it could have been a broken nose or worse...it was awful but the fact is, we ALL make mistakes like these once in a while (I bet EVERYONE on here has a story like this, if not several!) and it doesn't make you neglectful, just a human being. And hey, you will always be conscious of hot drinks now, just as I have never left O alone on the sofa since!

Big sympathies on the lying awake at night - I get this sometimes and haven't managed to solve it - though I do have a cosy 'fantasy' which I try to lock my mind on to (I think we have discussed this on here before).

See, Trace - that's 2 of us so far who have similar stories and literally within seconds of eachother - don't worry at all.

And re the insomnia - think everyone gets it sometimes. I try to think of happy things and sadly at age 34, it's still usually Father Christmas. I don't know why, but I always used to when I was little and now it's kind of ingrained into me!

oh my gosh - just seen on heatworld.com that Mark Owen is the next celeb to have cheated on his girlfriend/now wife! I can't believe it. Am losing all faith in men. I saw him in a cafe near my house once and he was even littler than I expected and a bit ratty. But nonetheless, he was one of the "good ones". I am a fool for believing this could be so. Sob. Ok, am not that gutted, but it is extraordinary how this is all coming out at the moment!

That's a shame. I thought he was nice as well. And his DD was born on the same day as mine (I thought his gf might on my ward but turned out to be at the Portland)

Celebs all go to the Portland, don't they? His little boy put a toy shield on Whizzer's arm and said "kill kill" when we were in the cafe. Scary, non? !!

Well, Myleene Klass went to mine as did...Princess Diana I think the other place they go is the John and Lizzies where Turnip went. Mind you, where I went was not flash at all, the rooms were like boarding school.

Hello

LadyT ordered me to come and say hello ages ago so I have finally made it!

How are you all? I have been scanning a little.

Very sorry Kayz, I hope things remain as amicable as these things can be.

I had to have a bit of a chuckle at syb and her many TG ex husbands

Dd got a cup of nice. hot, fresh coffee over herself a while ago and ended up in A&E because it blistered. She is fine though and the Dr said you won't be able to see the mark after it has been exposed to the sun a few times. It happens, they are curious and bloody minded, you can't wrap them in cotton wool all the time. I've forgotten how many times Ds has given himself some serious dents on the head and he is the careful one!

Dd now walks, talks when she feels like it then forgets all about it and is extremely cheeky . She is still a breast addict and still doesn't sleep. We are working on it during the rare gaps between teething, colds and tummy bugs but not getting very far!

A friend has a little girl a couple of months older than dd who knows soooo many words and recognises numbers and letters and everything! I go like this every time I see her! dd certainly in the dunces corner compared to her!

Dd's hair is long enough for pigtails, I love it so much! Makes me stupidly happy to have my little girl to do things like that with after playing rugby all the way down the track to the shops with her brother (while pushing the pushchair no less, I'm talented ).I don't think I will be too innundated with girl stuff though as dd is turning into a regular little mud magnet.

Apparently I now need to go and build a duplo house. See you all in 6 months or so!

Trace: to date DS2 has been dropped, bashed on a door lintel, rolled off sofas and beds and put in reach f knives, cups and lord knows what. The only reason he hasn't been subjected to more is that DS1 realises I am a ditz and reminds me to do stuff. He also acts as a useful early warning system when DS2 is about to do something dangerous!

Great to hear from you Indith. I llve it when people follow my orders

Pigtails here as well. I just love it. Do come back again, even if it is in 6 months. It's so nice to hear how people are getting on.

Oh my gosh, minstrels. Need them.

Re bring, I've deliberately cut down to one feed a day because it's all or nothing atm - if he's feeding he wants to feed constantly and most of the day. I find it exhausting and it's also a prob if I'm at work the next day as I get engorged. So no feeds during the day, one at bedtime and now none in the morning (which means some early breakfasts). He has also started biting a lot, which may be bevuase my supply is slowing down. Which may lead to my giving up aktogethr, it would be a bit sad but I don't know if that one feed makes much difference at this point.

Really quick massive hugs to trace - I have so many stories of maternal "neglect" please don't worry. YOu are such a fantastic mother and person in everyway - and to Kayz, you are being so mature but it still must be hard.

And hi to Indith enjoy that Duplo house. Lol at pigtails and walking. We are a long way from that here...

So funny that so many of you knew of my Hip Consultant lady!! And Sybs was even married to her pre-operatively.

The big news Chez Turnip is that Kelly Brook may be coming here to do a photoshoot for Reebok on Mon or Tues. We signed up to a locations agency about 1 month ago and this is the first hint of a booking. So v excited (as is DH although sad tis trainers not bras). Complete sh*g what to do with my 3DC from 8 til 6 but can earn more in a day than I do over a couple of weeks (my earnings are tres patchy) so will see how it goes. It will be OK for me to be there apparently as long as I don't get in the way.

Turnip, that is very cool! Oh, to have a house gorgeous enough to grace the pages of a magazine What an ace way to make money.

Hello, I've just been out doing a spot of gardening
Trace, so sorry you are feeling weepy often. It's a good thing to get it out. I'm not offended at all - glad to cheer you up although while I was gardening [lol] I did think to myself I've been rambling a lot these days (which has overflowed onto here clearly) and dh has said recently that I really do obsess about a lot of irrelaventia and minutiae and therefore I am going to make an effort to not in future - I think it's especially bad when pregnant
here's something that will make you laugh, well it did me, but perhaps it shouldn't have keeping in mind I have never been a large breasted woman, but I thought I had slightly more than a couple of bee stings, last night I said to dh "My boobs are massive - just massive!" and he said to me "lol - that's like a pauper finding a tenner and saying I'm rich - it's all relevant!" ! Fortunately I'm happy with my B cup bosum, so it didn't bother me and I actually found it funny as he said it so matter of factly!

I think I officially have a fussy baby. those of you with 2, did they go through a fussy stage and get over it or will he only eat what he likes forever??? I keep trying different things but he won't even put it near his mouth and today would only eat some apple for lunch and toast and a few bites from a baby food jar, but he threw (with great force I might add) a piece of chicken, some cheese and a piece of pineapple at me as I wanted him to at least try it! Do I just keep offereing stuff and he may try it eventually? veggie I know you touched on this awhile back but I need a refresher....

Just looking on very quickly before my school run.

Kayz - I am so sorry. I do hope things can be kept amicable and that you sort everything out swiftly and as painlessly as possible. I'll be thinking of you and am happy to chat family law at any time if you need some help

Trace - you poor darling. I think we have all had near misses / actual accidents which make us feel terrible but the babies survive. When Matthew was about 6 weeks old, I left him unstrapped in the car seat whilst I strapped the middle one into the buggy. I heard a thud, a cry then nothing - Lucy had tried to rock him and had catapulted him out of the chair onto the head and the stone floor. All my kds have had their heads whacked on the door frame too. It's a rite of passage here at the Towers. DOn't beat yourself up. And crying - I cry all the time, happy, sad, tired, whatever. Anytime, any place, anywhere, just like MArtini. Am thinking of you and sending love.

Rat update. Huge(dead) fucker found under the kitchen cupboard. Rat man said he was glad I hadn't seen it alilve (tho sadly my poor 18 yr old babysitter did as it ran over her foot....). Thinks it was the only one given the small amount of poison eaten. Back on Tuesday. Have had celebratory packet of crisps to mark its demise.

Minstrels - yum. Love the idea of a pregnant Beans on her own trapeze. Brilliant.

Well done Baby Lady on the movement. Excellent news. And Turnip - am hugely envious of the house. Can't wait for the pics.

Back at sleep time. Love to you all.

WG I actually think UK TVvneed a comedy like BE at the moment. I'll get over it, after all the Boosh transferred across and I survived.

Rubs I have 2 extremes of eater, one who fears all food and the other who will shove anything in his cakehole. Having I will take the later experience to draw on to answer your question as the first is quite extreme. DS2 does tend to have days where he is a bit off his food so I just go with it make sure he is offered snacks (which he may well ignore) and just move onto to the next day. He also gets very enthusiastic about something one day then turn his nose up at it the next only to shovel it in wholesale a week later. Just go with it. Some paediatrician somewhere once said as far as getting kids nutritional requirements into them don't think in terms of what is needed over a day, but rather over a week. It's less stressful but more likely to succeed.

Kayz I'm sorry you seem ok at the moment but know that we are here for you. It may seem all good now but could get nasty in the future esp with his mother involved.

Syb were you actually offering to knit?!?

Trace if I listed all the bad things I'd done we'd have to start another thread. But one example is when carry DS2 I often misjudge where his head is in relation to the wall. The other day I did it so hard at a point in the wall where the lightswitch was that I actually turned the light on with his poor head.

Oh and beans that circus thing sounds fun.

Oh and invis I've been meaning to say thanks for bringing up that thing you were saying about the tummy aches etc you had in childhood and them being related to you expressing or not, your emotions. DS1 gets funny tummy pains and this weird thing were he has as he says a 'hot back'. Sometimes he needs to go to the toilet when his tummy hurts but we aren't completely sure it's to do with that. We have wondered if he feels a little our of control of his life because we keep moving him around. He is 4.5years old and has had 4 different homes in 2 countries. He also is quite nervous of trying new foods or watching a movie he has never seen before. He has even said 'I might like it but I've never seen it so I'm worried as it's different'. We've recognized that we need to help him express himself and have some control over his world so we let him stick to foods he knows and movies & shows he knows. Eventually we'll help encourage new stuff. In other areas he is more adventurous, he has just started skiing lessons & skateboarding and he wants to start learning the violin. Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for saying what you did for Trace as it made me feel that this wasn't such an unusual thing. Also all your parcels to DS1 have really worked a treat, it has made him feel quite special I think. Which he is.

Oh and Trace whilst I was writing that last post DS2 managed to climb up into his tripptrapp style highchair! I was sitting in full view but didn't pick up on until he was getting whiney because he couldn't sit himself down it.

Hi Indith!

Trace can I just add to the near misses or actual accidents in my case DS1 fell down the stairs at 1yr he also fell out the back door, smacked his head off the car door plus several other accidents. DS2 fell down the stairs at about 8mth forgot he had learnt to crawl He also has been subject to much banging of head on the tiled kitchen floor. Plus he reg has helped himself to cups of hot chocolate, tea or coffee that we leave at heights we think he cant reach.

None of you are social workers are you?

Thank god the rat has been found will have a biscuit in celebration.

We are not ones to talk too regarding food. DS1 used to eat everything but the kitchen sink but has now decided only roast dinner, pasta and cheese sauce and PB&J sandwiches will pass his lips. DS2 however is still in the eat everything and the kitchen sink phase.

Oh Veggie he does sound like a sensitive wee man.

Turns out that interview info was just in time as someone else wants to interview me tomorrow! Will have to do some serious research on the train home. It's an internal thing, hence no notice. At some point I also need to organise two exhibitons and a conference (and do the day job). Eep.

Veggie: I've always been anxious about unknown things, dh still has to bully me into watching new films! But once I've taken the plunge I enjoy myself. AK is doing so well considering your moves. DS1 gets into enough of a tizz if his routine is disrupted at all. Boys are very sensitive to such things I think.

Trace, DS has fallen off the bed twice and I have very neglectfully left a coffee at a height he could grab. And yes he did pull it all over himself. But he was fine, we are only human and therefore do make errors of judgement at times. Much love to you.

Kayz, I am sorry it has come to this for you all but I do hope that things remain amicable for everyones sake.

Apologies not much time to catch up properly....

MoM - nice to see you on and congratulations on the article!

LadyT - I think I am probably hard wired to be a city girl, but DH has slowly persuaded me of the pleasures of the country, so it will probably come in time! Hurrah for the mobile O, that is fabulous. I must say after two DCs we never got around to clearing out stuff from arms reach . A bit late now.

WG - that running sounds fabulous! I might have to try it as I feel like a creaky old slug these days (if there can be such a thing?)and definitely need to find a way of doing some kind of exercise.

ZJ - belated happy anniversary, sorry you had to spend it apart.

Kayz - sorry to hear your news, but glad its a mutual decision and you are happy with it. I guess there will be plenty going on for you and the boys over the next few weeks/months - do unload into the basket whenever you need to.

Jam and Spot hope your days have gotten better....

Spot - DD is dairy free and pretty much always has been (allergies). I wouldn't do it lightly, as its a big change and making sure they get enough calcium etc takes some effort. If you take it seriously it also makes some situations being out and about hard - most cakes have diary, a lot of kids food you get out has it too. But if you do want to go down that route I've got all kinds of bits of advice from the dietician we saw, dairy free recipes etc, so let me know.

Trace - I am another one who has had plenty of accidents with the DCs. Scary as each situation is, I don't think it qualifies as bad parenting, its just life. DS has pulled over more than one stupidly placed mug of drink (thankfully cold), fallen off furniture, stairs, been bumped etc etc. I once came skidding down an entire flight of stairs with 3 month old DD in my arms. We all do our best to be careful but not something to feel bad about. And on the crying, as LadyT says, nothing wrong with it. Must admit that I burst in to tears pretty easily and know exactly what you mean when you say you really can't help it! It just shows you are human. But if you're finding things hard, is it worth trying to see the other CPN, even if your usual has been off sick?

Indith - lovely to see you!

Turnip - the location shoot sounds like fun! I hope they don't create too much chaos in your house.

Syb - very glad to hear the rat has met its end. We've had mice before and that was quite bad enough.

Veggie - glad my post was some help. I guess I was kind of in a similar situation - we lived in 3 countries and 5 homes by the time I was 7. It wasn't necessarily the easiest, but I don't think it did us much harm in the long run and probably some good. Main thing for AK is to know that he is loved and looked after by those immediately around him and I am sure you do that in spades - you have lucky boys.