Oct 08 - Chair climbing, spider greeting, potty training? NOOOOOO, they're still babies! <wibble>

[50ftQueenie]

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz
9th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - 50ftQueenie - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz
31st Oct (Due 20th Oct) - KnickersOnMaHead - Boy - Samuel Paul - 9lbs 11oz
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz

Hope this is ok ladies.

Ooh yes I agree about fierce maternal love too. I've found especially since being back at work that I feel stronger and more able to stand up for myself. It's like becoming a Mum has given me something to fight for and this has helped in all aspects of my life, not that I'm a fighter..I'm very nice really. I just feel a bit tougher about life iyswim?

I would have to stop myself from being sick

I am sat on the sofa in my dressing gown and socks, maybe you could use that as a picture of what mums look like??

I'm not helping much am I?

No the perfect image would be a woman in a public place with snot/sick/poo/food somewhere on her clothes and not having a clue or really the time to care. I've lost count of the times I've got somewhere only to find a little deposit from J about my person

I can't get the image link to work at all - grrr!

Hey guys, congrats CSWS on getting your DD to the age of 4 with a great immune system etc etc It's bound to be weird for both of you for a while.

Pistachio, I'd def recommend PG yoga to everyone, not really becuase of the yoga but because it generated so many friends with babies of a similar age for me, a few of whom will hopefully be friends for life. MN is obviosuly also a must! I'd also say to beware that PND is not just feeling weepy but can come out as irritability or anger too - I didn't realise I had it for a while even tho I was on guard for it. Also, take an emery board into hospital with you to file the newborn's nails down!!! I had to put socks on Poppy's hands when she was born and I'm sure that's part of the reason she was so irritable as she was sucking her thumb on scan photos and we effectively stopped that with the socks.

I'm sure there's a thread about this kind of thing I read when PG...will try to find it for you.

Found it. Might not be quite what you're looking for though.

Have just finished work for hte night, writing a report [meh] Am off to bed to read a book till I stop thinking about the bloody report, then get some sleep before I'm in for 7 in the morning!!!

HOw are you in yourself now Pistachio? I will read your reply tomorrow!

I'm a combination of the two of you Rachie and Pistachio. The DC look beautiful and well kitted out where as I look like a sack of poo, covered in snot and breakfast!

I like that quote Pistachio. With M I fell in love straight away, with ds it took time.... I agree with CSWS about the phases comment, only our phases of DS being difficult are getting more frequent as he's getting older. Maybe that's boys for you though.

Ronshar - You sound as glamourous as me. I am in my huge maternity PJ bottoms, a cardigan with a ripped neck (from where DS stood on my shoulders to reach some chickpeas down from the cupboard) and I have Vaseline all over my very sore nose. I have to admit that I quite like DD1's suggestion to the problem of the bullies. She sounds like my kinda girl! Hope you get something sorted out soon, but in the mean time it's good to know it's not bothering DD2 too much.

You've all chatted too much and I have a cold so I have to give up.... Hang on...

Rachie - yes we must do a Greenwich meet-up.

CSWS - Well done on feeding dd for FOUR years. That's an amazing and very rare achievement in this country!

Aubergenie - I agree with Ronshar.

Oh and on the agreeing with Ronshar front.... M is a mini me and DS is a mini DH, which is why they argue constantly. Oh happy house! I can't wait until M is a teenager.

Pistachio, from my POV i think it is very important to state that not all mums have a rush of love.... i remember i was looking forward to it and it didn't happen. It made me feel horribly inadequate (it sometimes still does) so it would have been good to be more aware that it might not happen.

the other one for me is that you have to accept that you cannot prepare yourself for everything, and that parenthood is a balance of taking a responsible attitude to the latest advice and research and just trusting your instincts... and that sometimes your instincts are all you have got to go on.

I'll tell Q off for giving you the germs, 50ft
about kids making fun of dd2 ronshar. Make sure the teacher is aware. She will be able to incorporate some discussion about being kind and teasing...etc... that's what I would do (not mentioning name or specific incident just a related hypothetical issue iyswim).
Also agree that school can speed up referral with your push.
When are you thinking of working? soon? Where will W go?
we're visiting the cm every day this week and it's so hard getting used to the idea. Glad he's a bit older now, though.

Pistachio. We could all send you pictures of the different stages of early motherhood. It may not be what your lovely innocent ladies expect, as the sight of a tiny baby up to it's arm pits in yellow poo is always a shock

50ft. I love you as you always agree will me. Now I have found out that my sis is coming down on Monday and not leaving for ages. So it will be really lovely to escape for a little bit. SSSSOOOO if its ok can we please come & visit you at your house and annoy you with my children trashing your house. Then leaving again.
Although I'm not sure I want to see you with vaseline all over your face
HMM, thats a great point about the PND. It isnt always about the tears.

Ksal, can I admit that I havent ever felt the "rush". I took a long time with DD1, which is still an effort sometimes. DD2 was better and DS was probably the easiest. I would kill anyone who got between us, but that fabled love thing is not something I can honestly say I have experienced.

Star, dont get too excited. I have to complete a certain amount of study hours before I can reactivate my professional pin number. Without that I am not allowed to practice.
So I am trying to find out which courses etc to get on with in order to then get a job.
So it may not be for a while, at least a year, by which time W will be in pre-school anyway.

What day did you want come down Ronshar? I am confused?! You are welcome anytime of course (that I'm home obviously) but just wanted to check so I have enough food in for everyone! It will be half term won't it! I'll have to make sure DH DS has put all his pants away. No young lady wants to see a boy's pants! Yuck! I agree with you because you are almost always right.

It will be Monday. I can bring food. DD2 eats nothing, DD1 can survive on cake & crisps and W will just throw food that he has stolen off someone else's plate.
Is that ok? If you are in obviously!

Of course it's ok with me!

Where is Myjob today?

You are so organized, Ronshar you've got it all planned out

How was DD this morning, csws? And how are you?

I don't think that rush of love thing was emphasized to me enough because I definitely felt it with Q. I could not believe how much I loved this little tiny baby laying on my chest... and the fierce protection I felt for him when they whisked him away for blood tests...etc. Seriously, throughout labour I honestly thought I was going to almost resent whatever came out in the end . I was so horrified by everything happening that I didn't even want anything to come out. When I realized it was a real baby - my baby, and the feeling in my heart like I have never ever felt before in my life... I was in total shock.
Also, you worry so much about delivery and pregnancy...etc and sort of almost forget that after that's all done, the hard work really begins - but it's less like hard work because you love this beautiful baby that you can now see, touch, cuddle...
Sorry

I'm rambling and probably sound like a total psychopath.
Maybe you shouldn't use my thoughts for innocent first time mothers...

I was referring to courses and returning to work ronshar, btw - not to 50ft's visit

I visited a preschool today and saw the cm. Q is knackered. I love that word. I wish we could have been at myjob's, though

myjob - when I was leaving, Ronshar asked which day I was going to visit you and she used your rl name and I looked at her like she had 5 heads!! My friend who is living in vietnam has your name and her brother just had a baby (well, his wife did, actually) and I had been thinking about her and she had been asking when she could come and visit here on her way back from the US and I thought it so strange that ronshar knew about that! Then I thought, "did I say the stuff going on in my mind out loud?"
Anyway, finally figured it out! Sorry Ronshar for that - you actually don't have 5 heads, just the one.

I'm confused now. Who is seeing who and when? And if it's half term week (for normal people, not star ) then can we come? We were supposed to be having friends visit for a few days so hadn't planned anything else, but they can't come now so we have an entire free week looming - eek!
Anyone is welcome to come and visit us too!

Dd hates her eye drops . Can't see much diff in her eye yet, but she's supposedly ok to go back to school tomorrow. She, ds and I have all developed coughs. Ds was awake in the night again presumably with teething pain. He has had his mmr today. I have had my first swine flu jab today. All very joyful .

I now have to go and make a load of chilli for dinner tonight, continue clearing up this bombsite, entertain dd in between her square eyes watching films (currently snow white, which we got her for her birthday, complete with snow white dress), and wait for the man to come and collect our old sofas to take to some (MN) friends who are having them. Living room will seem wonderfully empty after that!
At least I have some chocolate cake inside me to keep me going.

CSWS, how come it's taken this long for them to give you the SF jab? or is it suppose to be given at this stage rather than earlier?

Hope D is ok with his jab. Emma keeps getting conjunctivitis from nursery the drops usually seem to do the job though (chloramphenicol). Nursery seem to have a similar policy - as long as they are being treated they can come back.... the first time she got it the doc refused to do anything about it and she was off for days - very annoying (have to admit i now buy the drops over ther counter and claim they are for my husband... usually get a dubious look from the pharmacist, mind)

csws between the conjunctivitis, colds and jabs aftermath, you make it all seem very inviting to come to yours

I still haven't had Q's jabs for 12 and/or 13 months... every time I'm meant to, he gets ill again. So frustrating!

I've made roasted veg. I have never made them before had them at restaurants and at Ronshar's but never made them myself. Steamed, boiled, baked... never roasted. They were soooooooo yummy! I made a lot so I'd have leftovers as well Q loves them, too. Such a simple delicious thing!

I was waiting for them to get in the right sf vaccine ksal, as I can't have the regular one due to ds' seafood allergy and him still being breastfed. But it's 2nd and 3rd trimesters that are more risky for sf, so it's not that late.

Oh, and MrRonshar actually put mixed meditteranean herbs on the roasted veg the other day, not pepper as ronshar said!

I didn't use pepper or herbs on .... oops. That figures. I did use the sesame oil, though. Damn it. I thought this was something easy enough not to screw up. I guess they just aren't as flavourful as hers, but still yummy!

I just made dh a lasagne (american style) as it's the one thing I can cook for him that he likes and I don't usually mess up. I hope he likes it. I'm playing at domestic goddess sahm this week

Must go wake Q. He's been sleeping for so long!