October 2007 - these little piggies are growing up fast!

[alicet]

Ok so a pretty boring thread title but thought we needed some distance from the last one!

Evening ladies,

Looks like we've all had busy weekends!

We'e not been up to much, just chilling and enjoying family time...

Eva - Lovely to hear from you. Hope you get your assignments done ok.

Sounds like you're doing really well with getting your dd in to her own bed, not an easy task especially when it's just you doing it.. Sounds like it's going well!

Muppet - The grandparents rights thing scares me too but i'm sure it's not all that straghtforward.. It's probably under certain cicumstances and might not happen anyway. I think it's more likely if the grandparent has an actual relationship with the child and it would be seen as a bad thing to seperate them iyswim, rather than cases where they've never/hardly met. Anyway, if it ever happens and this is not the case I will be appealing against it and they will see our lo's over my dead body!

Wow at Toby trying to crawl already, that boy wants to to get going!

Sounds like Stans meeting went really well, hope the trial goes ok and that they decide to take him on!

NC - How was the free food and bar? Did you have a nice time?

How is everyone else? Hi to all of you anyway

Muppet; WOW @ Toby trying to crawl! It just goes to show that every child is very, very different! I think you are being very sensible in your expectations of your mother..I am in awe of how much you have learned from her mistakes and the massive effort it must have taken not only not to repeat them but to be precisely the opposite in your parenting .. all the more understandable why you had such serious PND after Ollie, when you must have had the underlying fear that you would not be able to throw off her influence. I take my hat off and bow in reverence to you.
The new home for Stan does sound perfect and I think the idea of letting them "get on with it" and starting as they mean to continue is probably best...making a special fuss of Stan and giving him exclusive rights to his new 'boss' might give him ideas above his station.

Eva; fab news about Aaliyah sleeping in her own bed .. how lovely that she was so excited about her "achievement" I hope the studying is going well and getting easier.

NC; hope you had a fab night out.

WWAJC;I hope the weekend was stress free.

We have had a busy one...alex tried to do a U turn on the no night feed situation on Thurs and Fri (possibly coupled with/triggered by the fact that he had tried to drop his afternoon nap) so dh and I got very little sleep ...fortunately last night was a lot better, helped by the fact that we took him to Eureka childrens museum in Halifax yesterday (fabulous place even though most of it a aimed at the older child) so he was exhausted and then had a longish car journey to knock him out. Today was the 2nd attempt at the family gathering that got snowed off before xmas so he has had an afternoon of super stimulation with his cousins and another long car journey so fingers crossed he will sleep properly again tonight...

We have

Morning ladies

How are we all this morning? I actually slept kinda ok for once

Floria - Sorry operation no boobies went a bit off track but glad you've regained control now

Sounds like you had a busy day yesterday... I grew up in Halifax, lived there till I was 11 (I think). How far is it from you? Been to Eureka when it first opened and thought it was fab!

Well, i'm determined to list soem stuff on ebay today cause we need to magic some money up from somewhere... Shouldn't be to difficult, we have stuff to sell, it's just getting round to actually listing it, not so easy when Dylan likes to help me press the keys

Hi Dal - we are ebaying at the mo too. Just getting rid of stuff we've had for ages that we don't/won't use. This week it's dh's cricket pads, a brand new x box control, a box set of beatrix potter books and a snowsuit. I love the randomness of it all!

Have made £100 so far so that's good as it's all going toward the wardrobe fund.

Toby is making us all laugh with his 'good-grief-I really-want-crawl!!!! antics. Ollie and Henry thin it's all great but little do they realise... Floria you are so right about them all being different, Tobes is nothing like Henry!
Mind you dh and I were talking and said that looking at Henry you would never have thought that he has only been walking for 6 months. If I remember back to Ollie, he walked at 13 months so if I remember what he was like at 18/9 months he was still tottering round but Henry runs, climbs and is just fine.

Re Stan Floria, I'll suggest they just get on with it as I think you're right. Stan has ideas above his station so I don't think he needs any encouragement

I am driving him over on thur which will be really awful as I will leave him there but I am so happy for him that he's got a 'person', playmate and lots of people to fuss/walk/tickle and love him. It's the best thing for him

Tidying today then phoning round to try to get an app for my hair to be cut/coloured as we have Toby's Christening on Sun and I look like an un-mown lawn!

love to all
x

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anyone about??

Helllooooooooo!

Where has everyone gone?

How are you today?

Ooh new smiley, how exciting!!

I just had a woman come to my door who said she was a 'friend of my mums' and had a parcel for me. I thought it was a new bouncy chair i'd ordered which is why I answered. never guessed that my f*cking psycho mother would send one of her friends all the way from yorkshire to have a go at me

She started saying I really should get in touch with my mum and that she lost her mu when she was 16 and we really need to sort this out. I've never seen this woman before in my life!!!!

I said I didn't want contact with my mum as she is narcissistic and has caused me more upset in my life than anyone else ever has and that it's not in the best interests of my mental health to be in touch. I told her same goes for my brothers.

She said my dads not been well too and that I should contact them.

I don't mean to sound insensetive but my mum alwaya exagerrates health problems to try and guilt me in to contact and I suspect if he really was that ill she'd have called me herself.

I told the woman I didn't want her to come back to my house again and closed the door.

This has really upset me and i've been crying a lot. Not what I need right now. She'll probably tell them i'm pg too, I really hope they don't start harassing me and stalking me again coming up to the birth.

I think i'll have to contact the police again, surely this counts as harassment that I asked for no contact so they sent someone else a 2 and a half hour drive to harass me for them?! i haven't opened the parcel yet, can't bear to.

Mil called and said to go to theirs and they'll look after me for the aft as feeling delicate and stressed now. Off down to theirs. Be back this evening.

Sorry for being so me me me.

Love to all x

Sorry not to have been on earlier; I did post last night ...where 'd it go? ...(brilliant and very apt smiley).. must have lots connection just as I posted or something.

Dal; You've got to give your mother 10/10 for persistance and she must have serious powers of persuasion to talk a stranger into driving all that way to bring you a present[incredulous emoticon]. I agree with Inzi, you should inform the police that she is trying to get round things by using a 3rd party to contact you. Blooming nuisance that she should find out about Miles being due due soon but the threat of the police should keep her at bay. Thank heavens you have such lovely inlaws to rely on.

Dh just got home and he's out entertaining in a short while...back later

Hi Ladies

Dal-FFS, they're fucking twats. Deffo get onto the police. You shouldn't have to put up with this, bet it was a right shock. Did you get the womans name? If you'd had chance to compose yourself you could have informed her that it is a criminal offence to partake in harrasment.

Inzi-So sorry you're still suffering, little monkey. Fingers crossed that it eases up really soon. Awww at Jane

Muppet-Hope Toby is on the move soon, well I do for his sake, not yours or the 2 boys

Just found out today that I can't get any funding for my level 4 Accounts next year as its not quite a HE course but higher than a FE course so looks like I'll be job hunting as I'm not prepared to give it up, but no way can I afford childcare and nearly a grand for fees etc and do my FD. I was going to defer the FD for a year as I don't want to lose the 'family' feeling of the group, but it looks like I may as well carry it on and drop the AAT, but really don't want to. Don't know what to do now.

Hi to everyone else, have I missed anything??

Oh Dal, I hope you are feeling a little better now. xx

Evening,

Inzi - I know, who does she think she is indeed .

Dh is gonna open the parcel and screen it for me, I just want to know if there is a written message in it so I can pass on that info to the police.

We will be informing the police as it absolutely outrages me that my mother continues to disrespect my wishes in such a blatant manner. I really don't need the stress she is capable of causing this close to giving birth.

Sorry the sickness is still bad and you had some pain in your side hope it starts to improve soon. How far along are you now? Got your booking in app yet? 4 and a half weeks left for me

Floria - You're right, she does have amazing persuasive/manipulative skills, it's scary actually what she's capable of. I just wish she'd leave me alone, she was never supposed to have my address, thats the bit that annoys me the most, she found it out against my wishes and is now harassing me any way she can. I feel totally violated

NC - It was a shock alright, that's why I took the parcel and wasn't more annoyed at the time, I was just in shock that this woman was saying these things to me! I wish I had got her name, I think I might have her phone number though as I had a missed call from a Thirsk number last week and wondered who it was, bet it was her...

Sorry you can't get the funding you need, how annoying. I hope you manage to work something out so you don't have to defer...

LLL - Thanks, I'm feeling less upset but really quite angry now..

Muppet - Loving the randomness of your ebay list

How's Toby doing with the trying to crawl? Sounds like a determined little fella

Hi to everyone else i've not mentioned in person, thinking of you all x

Helllooooo, hellooooooo, there's an echo echo echo.....

calls hello?

Hi Dal

What you up to today?

I've been cleaning, now doing stupid car insurance

Not doing insurance anyomre, can't believe my renwal has worked out cheaper than any other quotes!

NC; have you checked your renewal company online too? I always renew with norwich union but never with their renewal quote as it is always ££££ cheaper when I check online

Dal; It's always the same isn't it..you pop in for a chat an everyone is out. How are you doing today? Was there a manipulative letter? Have you been in touch with the police?...on a happier subject; How are the preparations going? bag packed etc?

Alex found some excersise equipment today..a rubber resistance cord with two handles, picked it up and said "circus Mummy! pick it up Mummy!" offering me the middle "I fly in the air!...I can't believe he remembered it and in such detail!!... we went to Blackpool circus between Christmas and NewYear, that was weeks ago... 1/30th of his lifetime ago...that's like a year to a 30yr old! Aren't their brains just amazing!!!!

Wow at Alex remembering from all that time ago!
Not checked online yet, will do when I can be bothered.

Inzi-urghhhhh, I couldn't eat it either. What a shitty thing to happen, make sure you take the tin back and complain, I had some mouldy beans the other week and got vouchers, they tested the tin and everything.

HI all!

Dal - am really at your mother! What a bloomin' nerve -have you gone to the police at all? I would, you really don't need the stress of her her right now. I'm so sorry that she just won't but out xx

Inzi - yuk! I think I would chuck it too!

Floria - wow at Alex!
Nc - is there anything else you can try for funding?

Am celebrating having a new washing machine after not being able to wash anything since sunday evening. It's amazing how quickly it all builds up I am also amazed at how excited I was to get the new one...shows how my life has changed!

Toby is getting very irritated by not being able to move. He gets his knees under his tummy and then rocks going 'arrrrgggghhhhh' He's pants at sitting as he just slowly leans forward to gracefully headbut the floor but he's not that bothered. He slept through all last week 6-6 but 3 nights woke up at 3.30, 2 nights ago 12 + 2.30 and last night was 2. I'm knackered (sorry Floria I know this isn't anything like what you have had) he's having 6-9oz's of milk and goes straight back to sleep. I tried to get him back to sleep last night as dh had fed him 6oz's at 10pm (re-introduced the dream feed in a desperate attempt) I tried giving him a dummy (what the heck is this mother????) I shushed pattetd him which just made him more angry so I fed him and he had 8oz's so he was hungry. Tough but hoping it's a phase.

Taking Stan to Jill's tomorrow, not looking forward to it but it's the right thing to do. So driving to Winchester after the school run and then having a consultation about my hair before having it cut/coloured as I have many greys (blush) and it's Toby's Christening on sun.

LLL (or anyone who can make a cake) how can I make my cakes rise? I seem to make wafer thin cakes which are now becoming a family joke...any advice?

Love to all
x

Hey ladies,

NC - Glad you got a good renewal price

Not been up to much today, been tired as I hardly slept last night after opening the parcel of doom, couldn't stop my mind racing. Managed an afternoon nap and feel a bit more human now.

It contained a random selection of stuff. Some christmas presents for Dylan, fine and some christmas cards which were just written as normal. I think my mum puts these things in so my dad thinks she's just sending a normal parcel then adds her nasty bits when he's not around... Not that his contribution was much better this time.

There was a packet of iced buns and a clown cookie for Dylan. This is because she knows I like iced buns so wants to try and evoke happy memories of when I used to eat them at ome, as if to say 'see, we are nice to you, we gave you iced buns' .

There was also a leaflet from a shopping mall in america and 3 sheets of money off vouchers for the mall?! Wit these there were a few loose chocolates with 'princes cruises' on them and 2 postcards from destinations they must have visited whilst on this cruise... One postcard was blank and then one was written to Dylan, it was just kinda normal but then my mum made sure to write on it 'we WILL see you soon Dylan'. This feels vert threatening to me, as in, they will see him soon whether I like it or not

It also contained some englarged photos of me and one of Dylan, all A4 size. My mum had scrawled mad rantings on the back of all these photos. The one of Dylan said something about the fact it would be nice if he spent xmas at theirs and that, again they 'WILL see him soon'. My worst nightmare tbh, spending xms with them, with Dylan, no thanks.

The pics of me had written on them stuff about how nasty and horribly I have behaved and asked 'where did this Amy go?' implying I have been brainwashed or something of the sort. Generally just pointing out what a sh*t person I am . They also stated that I should just tell them what it is they've done wrong to deserve such cruelty and that if I just told them they would appologise like they have done in the past but that 'I just haven't heard them'. Erm, NO, they have never appologised once and I have told them several times what they have done and continue to do wrong .

Then there was a letter from my dad stating amongst other things that i'm obviosuly not talking to them because I feel guilty???!! And my favourite bit 'they are prepared to forgive me'

There was also a letter from my 'aunty' Margaret that my mum had dragged in to this whole thing and also manipulated against me. Not really bothered tbh as she's not even my aunty, she's my dads aunty... Anyway, more abuse about how cruel, vicous and nasty I have behaved towards my loving parents and how could I do this to them etc etc

They say they'll 'never give up on you and Tim' (my middle bro), oldest bro not mentioned as he has been 'written off' so to speak. They talk as if we've been kidnapped and need rescuing, totally insane.

Just waiting for the police to turn up so we can log yesterdays indicent and show them what has been sent. They said something about warning my parents with the 'official harassment act' or getting an injunction.

Floria - I have a bag and the stuff to go in it, jsut need to put the stuff in it now if that makes sense

Wow at Alex's memory, amazing what they're capable of isn't it!

Inzi - Oh that's awful about the soup, don't think I could eat it either, bleurgh! Such a shame after you've slaved away making it too...

Back later ladies, sorry if i've cross posted with anyone but I started this ages ago..

Muppet-Great news about the washer lol can totally understand. Maybe Tobes having a growth spurt or needs more milk to get going Hope it is just a phase for you. Not great at making cakes myself, make sure oven is hot enough when you put it in and don't open the door, or if you do-don't slam it, mix it loads to get loads of air in-thats about my knowledge on baking!

Dal-OMG I hope the police do something constructive this time. It has got to stop, this is such strange behaviour. You okay?

Inzi-Did you eat the soup then?

Dal - so glad you are involoving the Police, I really don't like the tone of her comments on the back of the photos...sounds very nasty to me. My mother's extended barmy family did the same with the 'do you know what you are doing to your mother?' line. You are not doing anything to them, you are standing up for yourself and that's what they don't like. Never forget, you are allowed to diasagree with them. You've done it hinestly and politely, they are the ones maniupulating and trying to use emotional blackmail. Can you involve a solicitor? Or is the police official and enough -can they get them to stop?

Take care of yourself, for the next few weeks you need to concentrate on you, A and Dylan and your beautiful expected little man.