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Jan 2010 babies and mothers....come here to hibernate!

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mistletoekisses · 11/01/2010 09:45

New thread for us Jan 2010 mums. Will hopefully get busier as more of our little ones arrive!

Arrivals List
1st Dec - Missmarjoribanks - boy Thomas William Francis (33+4)
10th Dec - ClaireDB - girl Mira - 5lb 11.5oz (36+5)
11th Dec - Alibobins - boy Jacob, 6lbs 1oz (37weeks)
14th Dec - londonlottie - twin girls Juliet 6lb 1 and Eve 5lb 6 (35+5)
15 Dec - Whensmydayoff - girl Olivia - 6lb (36+6)
22 Dec - Liskey - girl Ellie - 5.5lbs
24 Dec - timmette/shinybaubles - boy Oliver - 7lb
25 Dec - Fakeplastictrees - boy Luke Edward
29 Dec - CantThinkofFunnyName - girl Olivia Iris - 6lbs 2 1/2oz
30 Dec - Liny - Nottinghamsire - girl Elise
1 Jan - TheMinnieBauble - boy Freddie - Weight TBC
2 Jan - nomorebboze - girl Megan - 5lbs 12oz
5 Jan - Fraochsmum - girl, name TBC - 6LBS 2oz
5 Jan - FlightofFancy - boy Edward - 6lb 14oz (37+3)
6 Jan - salvadory - girl Imogen
7 Jan - MistletoeKisses - boy Nicolas - 6lb 8oz
10 Jan- crumpette- boy 'babycrumpette'- 8lb 15 oz

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Newbeginning1 · 07/02/2010 14:11

sockmonkey - poor you with all those feeds. I thought DS was up a lot but it seems i'm quite lucky in comparison (or a least last night i was, i dont want to jinx myself!)

Sleep when the baby sleeps is an interesting theory. The last 2 days DS hasn't slept for more than 30 mins at a time so he's been out in the pushchair and finally gone off and stayed off but when we got home and i have both hands and lap free and both boobs as hes not attached to one i feel lost and so on edge until he wakes up. I think i need to relax and enjoy some me time but thats easier said than done.

How long are everyone elses DC's sleeping for in the day and how many naps are they having? DS seems to fight sleep as much as he can as he wants to know everything thats going on around him. He then manages to wake himself up with some massive trumps

CTOFN - how is your Aunt?

Mama2b5 · 07/02/2010 21:05

First thing first - sleepless nights or not enough sleep less then 2hrs break from LO being completely attached to your boobs!Sorry!

HB- water retension sounds awful but glad your on the recovery road!
socks - poor you, and what is your DH playing at! slap him, really SLAP him next time he wakes up dd with no thought of how it effects you, i think they forget how much you really have to do each day and every min!
SWH- you seem to really be going through it i pray it gets better for you real soon!
Nwwbeginning1 - yeh i agree sleep when they sleep is good, but hardly works in this real world!!!! when baby is sleeping the phone rings, the door knocks or the other LO want/need something from me and im disturbed because only Mum can do it!

flyingma · 08/02/2010 00:58

Fraochsmum I think that's a fairly common ailment for new mums (the pins and needles). Like you I have also found the rugby hold useful for the less popular side... although when Aidan's being particularly uncooperative, it is easiest to feed him in that hold. It is weird coz the BF leaflets said that the rugby hold is good for women with big boobs, not flat-chested ones... but I put that to the reason why I cannot get comfy (3 pillows won't lend much to structural stability for a squirmy baby). I try to alternate between that and cradle hold in order to give my back a break.

somewhat Agreed re the comment re the non first time mums... considering how I am feeling at the moment (with mum having stayed for 10 days and now replaced by aunt to look after me and take turns with bubs), I think they deserve some kind of award.

mama2be5 Bleeding stopped around week 3 for me.

quirky SNAP! I managed to hand express 40ml this evening (mainly from the good side); been working for weeks to establish milk supply (also supplementing with formula) and finally been able to express more than 5ml which I am chaffed to bits about. Pumps are driving me up the wall... my Medela Harmony (? the hand operated one) seems to hurt me quite a bit and I am not convinced it works more efficiently than hand expressing. Not sure if the electric ones hurt more as money isn't the issue, I just want to know it will work on me fine before parting with the cash.

saz You don't really seem to have much luck with hospitals, do you? Thanks for posting your birth story and I am glad that you are on the mend and that lovely Sam is doing well too.

Newbeginning1 I had the problem with milk supply and advice given to me was to try fennel tea (seems to be the miracle cure since you can also use it for baby; not tried this one myself) but also been told to take 1 pint of full fat milk a day and was also recommended proteins esp in the form of fish. Can vouch that the fish certainly works, but together with constantly stimulation either from pumping or suckling.

londonl I cannot say that I have done a lot of research into this but my HV had a conversation with my aunt about this (who said to her both my kids slept on their fronts, as did my grandma's 10 kids and all turned out fine) and it seemed like her line of defence of that woman who did a comparative study with NZ and found some startling statistical difference in SIDS between the UK and NZ, only factor being sleep position. So my understanding is that the advice is based on this study? But yeah I hear you sister... we're currently settling Aidan in a rocker and will move him to the hammock when he is slightly older. He really does not like sleeping flat in his cot/ bassinet. Thanks for all your summaries btw, most helpful. I admire you being able to function normally and watch your TV shows and read books - I cannot even manage the 1!

I feel like a bit of a wimp being unable to cope with one little baby. Despite the help I am unable to come on online to post/ read up re anxieties re feeding. Consequently things are driving me mad and making the baby blues worse. DH was fab up till bubs was born and he went home on night 1 for food and some beers (I last ate breakfast inbetween contractions, so he left me with some cereal bars and rice crackers). He spent week 3 of Aidan's life out of the country on business which I am at his company about and will be away the next 2 weeks (as minimum, but more likely it will be this way for 6 months) too, only coming home late on a Friday evening and leaving Sunday evening. Is it me or AIBU? /rant over

I have been dipping in and out to read posts but this evening, we discovered that perhaps we might have a mouse in the house so am a bit sorta like FFS... sod the window of opportunity to sleep, I am going mad.

If anyone comes across an explanation for the chomping and pulling off, please let me know. It is not so much the chomping but the pulling off that is causing agony - is this nipple confusion (I gave in to formula supplementing from a bottle on Day 4).

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Fibilou · 08/02/2010 08:21

Just said "my daughter" for the first time while booking paediatric check with GP. Could not hide pride from voice

Started crying yesterday when singing to her to try and get her to sleep I was so overwhelmed with love

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sockmonkey · 08/02/2010 08:49

Not sure if pulling off/latching on is a breast/bottle confusion thing. DD does it, but she has never had a bottle. I wonder if it's something to do with the flow. Sorry not to be helpful. I think the boys did it too...maybe just a baby thing?

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crumpette · 08/02/2010 09:22

fibilou!!! I haven't been on this weekend! So happy you have your baby! what fab news!

mistletoekisses · 08/02/2010 09:33

Morning everyone!

Firstly - have a message from CTFN - Mnet HQ have messed up her log in details so she is unable to get on and post. She just wanted us all to know that she is doing ok.

Re. the pulling on/ off - I agree with the others who have said that I think it could be to do with how fast your milk is flowing when let down initially happens. When I am quite 'full' I lean back at an angle so the flow is not as fast as it could be. If I dont, then DS can pull off...

Flyingma - Have you spoken to anyone over how you are feeling in RL? I dont blame you for feeling down when your DH is away so much, it must be tough. All I can say is that it really will get easier! The first 8-12 weeks are without doubt the hardest. Our bubs will start to go a little longer around that time (if not sooner!)
And tbh - being a second time mum is much easier than the first time round IMO. I am far more relaxed, trusting my instinct far more and going with the flow. There is also the absolute knowledge that the relentless feeding will stop. And that (in a weird way) allows you to enjoy the whole thing more. I remember with DS1 being petrified of being this tired forever. You won't be, I promise!

Re. the pumps, I can recommend the medela swing pump...have been expressing after breakfast every morning for the last 5 days and get 4fl. oz within 10-15 mins with it. So it works for me! And Nico is taking a bottle without any problems.

Re. the night sleeping...is still erratic. last night was great, went 3 hours between all feeds. Night before was 1 1/2 - 2 hours.

Hope everyone has had a relaxing weekend. Mine was quite sociable with friends popping over for baby cuddles. Off to catch up with all the posts!

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mistletoekisses · 08/02/2010 09:40

Xposts crumpette - OMG about your mums reaction!! Did you take a picture??

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crumpette · 08/02/2010 09:49

mistletoe, no I didn't!! haha It was SO funny though, I really could have she just stood there stunned with her mouth wide open. Never seen anyone act like that before! So naughty of me haha but we don't have a fab relationship and I left home before I was 12, long story, so I don't feel too guilty

Glad you had a nice weekend

flyingma what mistletoe says is right, it gets sooo much easier than this, I promise you. I was a wreck when I had DD, I got really down as I felt I was doing it all on my own and I should have been coping better but I had never experienced tiredness like it or stress like it etc etc. I honestly didn't feel human until she was a bit older, about 2.5-3 months. You will get there and it does get so much easier, they just start to be a lot more predictable and sleep at more regular times and go longer between feeds and you get to know them better and it will all be second nature to you. I can remember those first days and weeks and months with her and I was a total zombie and it was a huge achievement to just get dressed, let alone get her dressed!

crumpette · 08/02/2010 09:56

whensmydayoff are you about? I hope things are OK with Olivia, and I feel really bad if I caused any concern accidentally with any comments about sleeping on tummies. As I have said, he sleeps on his tummy now anyway [!] if I don't put him there he rolls onto it and is much more settled. And sometimes I put him on his tummy as he seems to be in pain lying on his back. I have come to the conlusion that if he isn't in pain, he will sleep better and be happier and I can then sleep etc etc, if I forced him to remain on his back instead of his side or tummy he screams the place down for hours and it's horrible for him and for me trying to console him
Anyway I hope you are OK and getting some rest!

somewhathorrified · 08/02/2010 11:15

morning all, evening or whatever time of day it is...who knows, Tobin certainly hasn't got a clue. He spent from midnight til 4.30am insistant that he was supposed to be awake, not hungry or anything, he left the hunger til 5.30 am! Thanks to all those who assure us first timers that zombification is not a permanent state..I think it's the only thing thats keeping DH going tbh!

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shinybaubles · 08/02/2010 12:32

Hi everyone
londonlottie thanks for the fennel tea tip but it looks like his wind is easing on its own.
Oliver has gained 2 kilos since birth and he is 6 weeks old - lol a very greedy baby. Looks like he is about to give up his feed at 2.30 - which will be great as then his last feed will be 10.30. He is really happy and smiles a lot especially when he hears ds1, and is now only crying for his bottle.

shinybaubles · 08/02/2010 12:47

And can I just ask a tmi question, has anyone had a period it's been 6 weeks since birth and still nothing is this normal?

newbegining Oliver is sleeping 8-10 am and then 12-2.30 and then 4-5 pm in the day. At night he sleeps 6.30 - 10.30 and wakes for a feed at 2.30 and then sleeps until 7 if that's any help.

crumpette I can imagine the look on your mothers face - it must have been priceless.

mistletoekisses · 08/02/2010 13:03

Shiny - are you bfeeding? With DS1, my periods didnt return until I totally stopped bfeeding...got one when he was about 6 1/2 months old. That was a bfeeding bonus I was happy about.

Lottie - do you have bfeeding professionals available to talk to? What do they say? There can also be a 6-8 week growth spurt, could it be that? Babies do fuss more when growth spurting. Have you posted on the bfeeding thread and asked for advice? You are doing so well and are through the hardest part.

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shinybaubles · 08/02/2010 13:16

mitletoekisses no not breast feeding, although I was crying about that last night . And really impressed at how well mnetters on this thread are managing bfeeding, I couldn't.

devotion · 08/02/2010 13:41

Hello everyone!

At last I get a couple of minutes free.

I have alot of reading to do but just thought I would pop on here to say hi.

Even though Uma is my third baby I have breastfed I am still not sure I am doing it right? - silly. The first weeks are always anxious ones, I know it will settle down soon.

She is 10 days old and not back to birth weight yet.

Oh gotta go... speak soon. Hope everyone is well.

x

MissMarjoribanks · 08/02/2010 14:02

I turn my back for a weekend at the PILs and the thread moves on sooo quickly! It was our first night away from home and we certainly didn't travel light.

Lottie - another tip from the NCT bfing counsellor, though probably a great deal more difficult with twins. (sorry) If they start to pull away, push their shoulders towards you. I have no idea why it works, but it does... you have to get them just as you feel they're beginning to pull off though otherwise its too late.

crumpette - that really is priceless about your mother.

Pumps - like lottie I have the Medela Symphony, which I've hired. Its really good - I saw an instant increase in my supply when I started using it. The mini-electric is crap, really noisy for one thing.

Thomas has been wide awake at night, totally unable to settle and so I've swapped normal tea for fennel tea to see if it makes a difference. I realised DH was coming home from work and feeding me pints and pints of tea in the evenings (he is a massive tea drinker so would make me a cup whenever he wanted one) and I was wondering if the caffeine was getting into my breast milk. One good night, one unsettled night so far, so we shall see how things progress.

Also had a bit of a heart in mouth moment when we woke up on Sunday morning to find Thomas' sheet either side of his head covered in blood. It turns out the blood was mine from a cracked nipple and he had swallowed it then puked it back up. I would have been a lot more worried if he hadn't been totally himself despite dribbling blood - the usual arm waving, leg kicking, screaming, almost smiling bundle of delight he normally is. The blood is still coming out in his poo now....

And a whole 10 weeks on - I still have lochia.

CantThinkofFunnyName · 08/02/2010 14:46

HELLO!!!! I've missed you all!!!! Ha - only been a couple of days but I couldn't log in and was getting v frustrated!!!

Shiny - I have a period! And it is pure hell - never had one like it! I had lochia until last Wednesday (just tinsy) and then Thursday full blown period started and it is sooooooo heavy (TMI alert) - and it's all "fresh" IYKWIM - not old blood.

Many thanks to everyone's wishes re my aunt. She's still going but v poorly. Hospital have now confirmed that cancer has spread to pretty much every other organ in her body so it's just a matter of time. It's a year since my mum died on Wednesday so I'll be travelling to where they live to visit crematorium so hoping to at least pay her a visit in hospital - you know, just to say that I said goodbye. Oh well, enough of that.

Crumpette - PMSL at your mother. When are you going to get yourself out and about and ignore what your prat of a DP says and meet up with some friends?

MMB - OMG re blood!! That must have totally freaked you out - eek!

Flyingma - as MK says, do talk to GP or HV or someone in RL about baby blues. It's really important to keep check on it, but as everyone else says, it really is hard in the first couple of months and then you just find everything clicks. I'm on DC3 and I wonder what on earth I did with the other 2 at times - I was so organised with them .

Had Olivia weighed this morning for our first outing to "Baby Clinic". 8lb 6oz - I called her a little pork chop and then laughed to myself as I realised that DS was 8lb 1-1/2 when born and many bubs on this thread were bigger than that - she's 6 weeks old tomorrow! Olivia is still doing the pulling away thing on the bottle too - having analysed this for a little while now, I think its when she gets really hungry and I'm not quick enough to feed and basically works herself into a bit of a tantrum. Also have found out (at Baby Clinic this morning) that she absolutely will NOT take a cold bottle - had major tantrums and resulted in me being rather stressed out with screaming baby rushing to get home asap so I could warm her bottle.

And finally - had DD1's (hee hee - 2 DDs now) 7th birthday party yesterday - bloody chaos! Have uber sore throat today from too much shouting to "Shut the F**K Up" - joking didn't really use those words, but you can imagine. Never again. She loved it though as did all her little buddies. Simon Says, Pass the Parcel, Musical Statues etc. Olivia amazingly slept through it, apart from a feed which her aunt gave her. She had a feed at 10.30, 2.30 and then 7am - very pleased with that - long may it last until she decides to drop the 2.30 feed!

Shiny - v jealous that Oliver is ready to give up his middle of the night feed .

Right - better run the hoover around now .

shinybaubles · 08/02/2010 15:29

CTFN well I think he is he only takes 90mls then compared to 180 mls during the day, so I'm thinking he's not that bothered. What do you think? And to be honest dh does all the 2.30 feeds .
Sorry to hear about your Aunt.

mistletoekisses · 08/02/2010 15:51

Shiny - so sorry, hope I didnt touch a nerve re. the bfeeding? Sorry that I have made you upset all over again. I only asked as if you arent, then periods can return quite quickly.

CTFN - welcome back! What happened to your log in details? Glad the party went well, am still in awe of your bravery. I cannot ever see myself hosting a party with 17 children. Hope you are doing ok with your aunt and mums anniversary coming up.

MMB - I would have sooo gone into a panic if I saw that! Thank goodness it is nothing wrong with the bub! Re. the lochia - have you gone back to your GP and told them? How heavy is it? Nico is a month old and mine has stopped.

Devo - am sure you are doing great! Have someone check your latch at baby clinic/ cafes if you aren't sure?

Have had a very lazy day - is freezing and sleeting again today so totally vetoed any plans I had to go for a wander today. Roll on spring and summer - warm days seem a very distant memory!

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