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August 08 - We three kings of orient are, one in a taxi one in a car..

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steaknife · 12/12/2009 23:22

...one on a scooter beeping his hooter, smoking a fat cigar

Apologies to the goodly and the good amongst us.

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PoinsettiaBouquets · 27/12/2009 09:22

Sunniest day of the week here according to weatherman so thinking of a seaside trip out with the kids today. Just got to conjure up a picnic.

Hey, why don't we all plan a Scottish beach holiday this summer? We're hoping to stay in East Lothian, ah sure tis just a few milimetres from Dizzy's on the map.

Oh and yes, they do change overnight! Kurt picked up DD's new pink soap-on-a-rope microphone last night and carried it around going doooooodooodooo into it! He's also fallen in love with DS1's Buzz Lightyear buble bath toy, luckily it was only £3 in Sainsburys (you wouldn't know it wasn't a toy. Bargain.)

dizzycringles · 27/12/2009 10:00

raining here which means we can't go out on DD1's new bike and it will take away the rest of the snow never mind, the girls are going to the cinema with my friend at 12pm so she won't be too devestated

it should also give me time to recover from Dylan getting up at 4.30 and no amount of drugs cuddles would get her back over she is now of course back in bed sleeping it off whilst DH and I have eyes falling out of our head. I dealt with it for the first wee while letting DH sleep and then he got up and let me sleep on - nothing like split shift sleeping on your anniversary!!

DH got me a card which looks like something that his mother would pick - you know the kind I mean I shouldn't be ungrateful but its horrible - I shall be pointing it out!!!

right, considering how many people are coming tomorrow, I should really go and get on - I can't see my couch, the tree has shed to a stick and the dining table/toy room are covered in crap as well - at this rate I'll have to put them all out in the garden [meep]

steakyroastingonanopenfire · 27/12/2009 11:03

feckin fecking frenchmen!

oopsandbabyJesusinacoconut · 27/12/2009 11:38

Morning all

Steaky - what has he done now?

PoinsettiaBouquets · 27/12/2009 11:48

Oh dear has he suddenly decided he has a window to claim his Christmas rights today then? Found another link for him btw.

PoinsettiaBouquets · 27/12/2009 11:51

Also here, here and here. If he moved here, you could come and stay in my playroom/guestroom on her visits so visits wouldn't be too stressful for you.

PoinsettiaBouquets · 27/12/2009 11:54

Another one. And you could get great satisfaction from imagining him leading a bunch of novices around the zero visibility murk of the river Solent mwahahahaha

CaptainCaveman · 27/12/2009 11:56

Morning - stand back, full of cold and coughs here . Feeling crappola as a result of lurgey.

steaky whats happened with the useless tool mansteak? My dneice's dad took her to the pics last week - and fell asleep for the whole film. Dneice is just 7 . Now he is a tool.
And I love your plan to fold the UK in half

Thanks to my secret santa - very appropriate and appreciated gift .

TwilightSurfer · 27/12/2009 13:47

So are we removing our Secret Santa masks yet?????????? YOU ARE SO WELCOME! I spend so much time thinking of just the right thing then it HIT ME (or rather I looked up from my computer). LOL!

Steaky I'm seeing a pattern. I hope you are too. No need to allow your blood pressure to go up as a result. It won't help and you've got better ways to spend your energy.

Nothing says Christmas like D & V. Reese still has D and DD1 woke at 11:30p last night and V'd all over her bed and my feet. Still neither have a fever or act ill. Oh well.

That said, I'll trade an early wake up for a them.

Must shower today.

TwilightSurfer · 27/12/2009 13:49

spent not spend

steakyroastingonanopenfire · 27/12/2009 15:28

Well he phoned this morning just as we were going out. Conversation went along the lines that he didn't see the point of phoning because he was just talking to me not her and that she couldn't talk and didn't know him. Ditto for skype and he can't see how that is going to build a relationship.
I said fair point re phone but that with skype he would be building a relationship with her, if he did it weekly then she would get to know him and so when she does understand the concept of daddy that she will know it is him and who he is. Also good to get into the habit of doing it now so it is easier as time goes on.

He didn't agree said it was pointless that she wouldn't understand or know who he was. I said she never would if he never did it.

He said I didn't understand how difficult it was for him to only see her for five mins etc etc, I said I thought it should be better to see her than not.

He said I didn't know what I was talking about and that I was being ridiculous, I pointed out that as the main carer that perhaps I did know what I was talking about...
etc etc etc
He put the phone down.
Despite being very cross with him I did not go down the "well you left us" path and tried to just stay talking about the contact.

Sigh.

If he doesn't want to do it for whatever reason he wont but I don't see why I should then go to any effort with regards to phoning him, photos etc etc.

Grrr.

steakyroastingonanopenfire · 27/12/2009 15:30

And for once I don't understand why his parents aren't making this happen. Last christmas they skyped with their DGD in America and I would be sure that they would want to see DD regardless of her dad.

But maybe not - very upset by it all.

steakyroastingonanopenfire · 27/12/2009 15:32

And I've been saving her present from them so they could see her unwrap it.

dizzycringles · 27/12/2009 16:26

don't have time but he's a fecking idiot - doesn't deserve to have Izzy in his life or your concern over it - and I don't say that lightly (and no, he's NOT getting a fecking Santa hat)

sorry to rant and run, back later

steakyroastingonanopenfire · 27/12/2009 16:43

And it wont matter to her why he doesn't contact her it will just matter that he doesn't - and I will have to try and explain it to her in a way that doesn't make him look bad and doesn't make it seem like he doesn't love her.
I don't think my storytelling skills are good enough for that one.

steakyroastingonanopenfire · 27/12/2009 18:34

am I being a bit of a drama queen over this, should I just leave him to get to it in his own time?

oopsandbabyJesusinacoconut · 27/12/2009 18:45

Steaky - just doing bedtime but in answer to your question - no you are not being a drama queen, you are tyring to ensure he has a relationship with HIS daughter. The man is cutting off his nose to spite his face, unless he tries now with Izzy when she is older he will just be another stranger in her life and when he next visits she will be old enough to say no, I don't ewant to go with him as he will for all intents and purposes be a stranger!

dizzycringles · 27/12/2009 18:45

no you're not, you're being a mother trying to protect your pfb from any hurt/disappointment and he is being an arse HOWEVER the relationship that he chooses (or not in this case) to have with Izzy is his responsibility and in time she'll come to realise how much you did for her and how little he was there, of his own choice let him make his bed and lie in it - but do feel free to point out that when she's old enough to talk to him or recognise him and the PIL on skype etc - she may well choose NOT to talk to him or she may feel he is a stranger to her and he'll have nobody to blame but himself.

you are not longer required to facilitate his relationship with his daughter and whilst you shall do nothing to harm it is it his responsibility to keep it in tact

oopsandbabyJesusinacoconut · 27/12/2009 18:48

As for the skypww thing - we skype with my parents every couple of days as they only come down once a month and DD knows who my folks are, she saw my dad for the first time in the flesh yesterday for nearly 8weeks and she went straight to him and say 'Opa' - So his theory is proven wrong!

dizzycringles · 27/12/2009 18:55

Dylan can recognise my lot on Skype too so he's an arse - he's using it not to have to have a conversation with you at the same time - eejit just has to show his face every once in a while

steakyroastingonanopenfire · 27/12/2009 19:08

FFS it is nonesense isn't it. I mean look at how much little ones get from TV.
DD would be delighted if I let her sit infront of the pooter and have someone talk to her from it.

Reminds me I must make sure my dad knows how to log into and use skype this week as he is off to Oz and NZ for three months

dizzycringles · 27/12/2009 19:11

has he spoken to her on skype before Steaky? if he gets a decent reation from her he may well see that he's talking nonsense?

steakyroastingonanopenfire · 27/12/2009 19:15

We tried once ages ago, but his internet connection is v bad, so we msn'd with a webcam on. Not great but he could do it from his parents house. He goes over there a couple of times a week for lunch so would be the perfect time to do so.

That is what was supposed to be happening on the 25th.

dizzycringles · 27/12/2009 19:51

well I'd just reiterate that again and if he chooses not to then its a loss for him and his parents unfortunately

oopsandbabyJesusinacoconut · 27/12/2009 19:56

Steaky - I second what Dizzy said - you have made every effort to ensure him and his parents get to see your DD, there is nothing more you can do without dragging him through the channel tunnel by his testicles and making him play with DD. He will realise that what he has lost when she doesn't recognise him when he decides he wants to play daddy.