NOV 09 - once the lights are out and the last baby has arrived safe and fine, see you here on cloud nine!

[Broodzilla]

I've just realized we're now under the "being a parent" header. I've got stage freight!

Lol, probably should tell you I used to be LissyGlitter!

Weston Ok had that problem here.. he needed soothing so would suckle on the breast but didn't want to feed,so I give him a dummy and he's happy (same as scarlotti

I am finding it really hard to keep up with this thread.

Hobnob Isla's feeding and routine or the lack of it, sounds exactly like Olivia. She goes for big gaps between feeds during the day, sleeps lots in the morning, and then cluster feeds all evening till midnight! She used to sleep through the night which has now finished though and she wakes up between 3 to 4am. I wasnt bothered with her routine at all because she slept se well at night but i think it is time to reconsider it and start military training. Ds was on routine from day one and although it was hard work he slept from 7 weeks and i liked that i knew exactly why he was crying etc.

I need sleep. I miss sleep. I cant cope without sleep. I am one of those people who need 8hrs a night. I used to be in bed by 10 every night (prepregnancy)to be up by 6. why am i still awake now? sleeping baby on my lap and snoring husband on the sofa. I dare not to move her as she will be up straight away but she needs clean nappy so even if she doesnt notice being put in her cot she will be up soon because of dirty nappy.

But is it just me or do you too love (maybe too strong a word) the smell of new babies poo? Not so much after 6 months when they start weaning though!

Also she makes piggy noises too and does that faster breathing when she is looking for food. Keeps me awake for hours.

night

thank you, will try a dummy again but she wasn't a big fan last time, think it was wind or something that i had eaten/drunk that she didn't like - how long does what u eat/drink take to transfer into breast milk or is it instant?? she thankfully fell asleep at 10:30 and slept till 4, allelulia, feel slighly refreshed..

Morning all, hope you all had some sleep!

Day 1 of training here. Have now been trying unsuccessfully to wake Olivia up for the last half hour as I wanted to feed her at 8. So far only just started the routine and it is failing already. I have turned the lights on, blinds up, opened window, took sleeping bag off and not a stir. Even though ds is running around getting ready for school. So definitely noisy here too. She will be not allowed to sleep in ? shouldn?t have partied 2.42-4.22 this morning now should she! I didn?t bring a bottle so had to give boob 3 times?

And we have tried dummy but she is just not interested and we have several types for the little princess.

Have you heard Skorpion?s news? Little Lucy is here!

Weston6.5hrs is impressive!

Koumak, you sound serious, I'm almost a bit scared of you but I've decided to try to stretch time inbetween the feedings during the day as we are back to a very snacky little Paula.
And I would have a couple of various questions, please feel free not to answer all of them :
a)How does nappy rash look like?
b)Are your babies about to going bald too?
c)Is there a real examination at the 6 week check or is it just talking again?
d)What do your babies get for christmas? I have no idea, there doesn't seem anything she would want or need.
e)Does anyone have a baby bouncer? From when can you start using them?
f)Does anyone have already sex again? I had a dream last night so it seems as the interest is coming back or that my body would be ready but I am just toooooo tired.
g)How is everybody?

Morning ladies.
I'll try to answer some of your questions Ursi
a) very red, sometimes bumpy in severe cases. Their skin looks raw almost. She may pull her legs up when you are cleaning her. I have found that bepanthum is the best cream but not sure what age it can be used from.
b) My ds was born with red hair, went almost completely bald, then it all grew back blonde and he has a head of very think hair now. I am just waiting for Anya's to do the same!
c)With ds it was just a chat because I felt well in myself and had had a natural delivery. You are also offered a smear test if you are due one.
d) We are getting a teddy bear made at bear factory for Anya and thats it. She doesn't know any better and everyone else will be spoiling her enough!
e) Anya is in her bouncer already. It is a chicco one that can be adjusted so that baby lies flat and the bouncing element is optional. She sleeps really well during the day in it and when my ds was this age it was the only place he would sleep-even at night!
f)No, not here, like you I am just too tired. I know dh is ready but I would much rather extra sleep at the moment
g) Feeling good today. Am sat here beside a sleeping baby who is due a feed at 10am and wondering how I am going to manage getting to the doctors for a blood test, which is at, yes you guessed it- 10am! I'm hoping she will fall asleep in her pram until I've had it done!

Ursi
f) never, ever again
g) exhausted, frustrated, muddle headed, but also in love

Oh I am not having much luck with this routine. She finally fed at 8.45 and then again 15 mins ago! Oh well. How can I be cross with her she is just too cute! At least she is keeping awake so we will see how the day goes.

Took ds out of school early yesterday for hearing test. His right ear still has mild hearing loss but at least left one seems ok. Have to speak to teachers this afternoon to remind them he needs to sit in front and facing them with his left ear when they are talking to him. Then took him to Brent Cross to see Santa and we bought new police trainers with cool blue lights. He was over the moon! Nice treat as felt a bit guilty of neglecting him. Luckily Olivia was asleep the whole time and made it all much easier!

Q&A:
a) Well explained by TOK. I swear Bepanthen is best for daily use, ok from birth, to avoid rash as it is greasy it keeps the skin moisturized and the nasty stuff off skin, and Metanium for when the rash is already there, dry yellow cream, also ok from birth, magic! I personally use Bepanthen or Weleda and then Metanium every other nappy change if rash develops. Only takes couple days for the rash to clear.
b) No chance of going bold here. But I believe it is natural for them to ?change? the hair so I suppose mine just do it gradually that it?s not noticeable.
c) Having 6 week check next week so will let you know. Don?t expect anything though.
d) I have bought Olivia one of those electronic books with rhymes and she is getting a fisher price train (ds thought that every child should be getting train at Christmas, he asked Santa one for him and one for her, so I thought why not, at least he will believe much longer!)
e) We have baby Bjorn bouncy chair and Olivia loves sitting in it. She sometimes dozes of f in it too. But her favorite thing is the triangle breastfeeding pillow. She loves lying in it, her head on top and the sides around her. I think she is very comfy and might even think she is being cuddled!
f)Nope. Not down there anyway? But have been talking about it. Does that count?
g) Alright I suppose. Loads to do today. So stressed actually. Not sure why I am mumsnetting!

ursi I am a pussy cat really!

Morning all

Koumak* also starting to feel the need for some routine here. He seemed to have fallen into one himself but has started snacking more the last two days. Think I'm going to aim for more feeds in the day and see how that goes!

a)red and raised, can bleed. It's caused by urine and poo being on the skin together so frequent changes helps, as does air drying. I use sudocream when he has it and it goes in a day.
b)Yes! first hair rubs off. #ioan sporting a monk style at the moment!
c) you can get examined if you wish.
d)We will give him some of DS1's baby toys and I'll do a littke stocking, but that is more for DS1's benefit as he'd wonder why Santa forgot Ioan.
e)Yes, and have used them from day 1. The one that's more upright has a head hugger thing to stop his head lolling about.
f)I was more interested a few weeks ago (but didn't) but now tiredness is taking the interest away. Traditionally women waited for the 6 week check. Guess it's just when you're ready.
g)We had an unsettled night but then managed to both doze until about 9:30 so not feeling too bad considering today. We seem to still be on a snack cycle so hoping that will change today. Yesterday evening he didn't feed constantly and so woke more in the night. Might have to change that tonight!

b) possibly will happen at back of head - did with other two
d) nothing yet but he does have a stocking from santa!
f) yeah right!!!!!
g) tired and a bit snotty today

Weston DS does that too - I think it's cos milk coming too fast and he's frustrated. My milk does seem to fly out.

USi can't answer many of your Qs as am obviously a total novice, but we have bought DS a couple of Lamaze toys (have a look on amazon) and a rag book of faces. My mum's got him a stocking, but I think really the whole charade is more for us than for him!!!

Koumak aaaw at your DS and the train for Christmas!! That's really sweet.

As for sex, eeew. I am still bleeding from my little tear, not sure if it is healing normally, I hope so but there is no way I am having sex until it all feels totally normal. Which will be in, what, a year?!

Well, I made it to the docs, only ten minutes late. I tried leaving early, thinking I could feed her when I got there if needed. But she had other ideas and I had only left the house 2 seconds when she was squealing like she'd never been fed before.
They were surprisingly understanding and even let me see the nurse about my funny coloured ceasarean wound without having an appointment.

a)I think nappy rash has been covered pretty well. I used Sudocrem this week (got a free jar in our Bounty bag) and it's all gone! Yay.

b) Haven't noticed much change in her hair yet, but she's only 2 weeks old.

d) Too much stuff - we have to move in < 8 weeks and I'm trying to convince friends in the states to hold on to presents until we get back but it's a losing battle.

f) I think I'm ready... but I'm afraid to bring it up as that'll open the floodgates, so to speak.

g) Sleepy Maeve wants to feed every two hours lately. They're good long feeds too - 20 minutes or so - and combined with the nappy changing beforehand and soothing after, it just doesn't leave much time for anything else!

TOK eek, funny couloured wound - I'm afraid to ask. I just ignore mine and assume it's getting better...

Morning (oops not still morning...)

Well granny has descended! Along wiht my sis from Scotland. Lovely to see them actually and their delight at Rosa. DH has taken them (all 3) into Oxford to have a walk round the colleges while I catch up on MN have a nap.

tamlin oxfordshire meet up in the new year a must - did you hear skorpion has had a little girl called Lucy? (news from mr skorpion on other thread)

scarlotti did you say you had a bit of interest a few weeks ago but waited? - I think that will be me - my head and hormones are saying 'Hmmm, some cuddles would be nice' (and I've been having some fruity dreams too) but my body...well certain parts of my body are saying, 'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Way'

a)Red and/or sore
b)Annabelle isnt losing hair but may do later on as ds lost his first hair.
c)mine was just talkinging, no actual examining.
d)have got Annabelle a soft doll with bits that make different sounds as she plays with it, like crunching, not actually muscal or anything.
e)Ds had a baby bouncer but was never that keen on it so it has stayed in the garage this time round.
f)Yes, a few times, did this morning. was actually fine, can be uncomfortable at the wrong angle but is actually a lot better than i thought it would be at this stage.
g)am ok apart from ds stressing me out. he seemes to try and get my attention by doing things when im feeding the baby, like he found some nail scissors out from god knows where and was brandishing them about which i had to take off him very quickly and last night he climbed on the toilet cistern to get the bathroom cleaner off the windowsill (very high one at that). Babies are easy, three year olds are the challenge.

talkinging?!!! what the hell. gaa whats up with me today?

Afternoon all

just back from rather late (10 weeks!)postnatal check for me and Isaac. I wasn't examined but think he would've done if I wanted as I had a second degree tear. I wasn't in the best state as had been up with Isaac since 3am. isaac's been very unsettled the last few days and has been vomiting after feeds and always sounds like he's gagging or choking. The doc didn't seem to think there was anything wrong as his weight was good but when he said this I started crying! What a nightmare. i think he now thinks I'm an emotional wreck as started asking lots of questions about support at home etc and wants to see us again in two weeks. I've got a prescription for gaviscon as he said it could be reflux.

I then had to take Isaac for his jabs and he screamed the place down, poor thing. Pretty rubbish morning really. I've got him in his sling now and he seems ok.

weston a couple of days ago ben had bad reaction to me having a meal with lots of onions in it. At his feed 4 hours after the meal he was v v gassy and almost thrashing about with discomfort.

The effect in my milk lasted about 24/36 hours i think but in the end - once we'd figured out what it could be - took a break from bf and went on to formula for a day. He's fine now and back on bf.

It's made me realise how much i eat/cook with onions though!

a) TOK covered this one. You need a zinc-based cream, and it can help to leave their bottoms out in the air for a bit - put them on the bathroom floor on a towel as they're BOUND to wee or poo! Also, don't use soap when you're cleaning them in the bath, and if the rash gets bad, stop using all nappy wipes and go back to cotton wool and water. Even the ones which say 'super sensitive no fragrance' still can irritate their skins (DS 1 has eczema, I know whereof I speak!)

b) Nope, I have hairy babies who stay hairy (although DS1 went from very dark hair to being a towhead within six months - see profile pic). Bit worried because Arthur has tiny tufts on his ears and they're not falling out - have mental images of needing to shave my Wolverine child's ears before school every day...

c) With my first child, the doc tried to examine my stitches south of the border and said 'I'm not even going to try to check you internally, the bruising is far too severe, come back at ten weeks for another check' and I went home and WEPT. This time, he just checked the caesarean incision, confirmed that the swelling was because I'd probably wrenched the healing muscles underneath, and gave Arthur a going-over.

d) We're getting Arthur a lambskin to lie on - he seems to be more tactile than DS 1, and he likes his fluffy soft blankets. I think we got DS 1 his Fisher Price rainforest thingummy to lie under for his first Christmas, and he loved it.

e) Nope!

f) Augh. Tried unsuccessfully. Rotten breastfeeding is the culprit, I think.

g) Good! I really do love snuggling with my fat currant-bun baby. (And whomever thought baby poo smelt nice, I sort of agree with you - it smells like cinema popcorn to me.)

Also - woohoo for possible Oxford meetup! My sister is currently living between Cowley and Iffley roads, so I can ditch DS1 and husband on her. (Impossible to natter properly while chasing a toddler!)

weston a couple of days ago ben had bad reaction to me having a meal with lots of onions in it. At his feed 4 hours after the meal he was v v gassy and almost thrashing about with discomfort.

The effect in my milk lasted about 24/36 hours i think but in the end - once we'd figured out what it could be - took a break from bf and went on to formula for a day. He's fine now and back on bf.

It's made me realise how much i eat/cook with onions though!

Hi all, trying to keep up with this thread!

a) pretty much covered
b) Ds never went bald and Millie has quite a lot of hair so think she'll hang on to it!
c) Just a chat last time
d) Just bought a rattle, a book and going to wrap up some of ds' old toys!
e) nope
f) No flippin way! Was going to pose this question to you lot myself, can't imagine ever wanting to do it again! I remember after having ds it felt quite painful for a while and I'd had a cs! Think it was because of breastfeeding hormones making the area dry (sorry tmi!!) Now ive had a natural delivery and a second degree tear I'm even more worried. Will It be ok?

Feeling very tired and emotional these past few days. I still feel annoyed at dh about last weekend and last night he did'nt get home from work till 11pm and both ds and dd were a nightmare. Millie was feeding and screaming all evening and ds kept waking up crying and wanting cuddles, I was a wreck by the time dh got home! I also feel really resentful of dh going to work and having lots of do's to go to, I can't remember the last time I went out and let my hair down! Don't get me wrong, I love being a mum but could just do with a bit of me time!

Sorry for me me me post, Millie is on boob and i'm typing one handed so will go now before I get arm ache. Hope everyone else is ok.

oh, and congrats to Skorpeon!

f) what!!!! who has the time or the energy??? in awe Trikken bow down to you..I'm lucky if a get a kiss these days

b) Charlotte losing hers a little yes.. but it comes back.

lemontop reflux here too..good luck.. we're vomitting tastic!\

Baby poo smells lovely! yes!