Dec 08 babies are nearly one - PARTY TIME!

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As I accidentally filled up the old thread I thought I'd better start a new one

LadyT one of my BF's DCs was like yours - just didn't move until about 16 months and is bright as a button - just seemed like she couldn't be bothered to move until it suited her. Girls after my own heart.

DD has been waving all Christmas, and honestly DS only just started waving aged 2.5. And can't clap. But can ride a bike and is excellent at dribbling a football (according to his coach ). They just do things at different stages. DD has only so far said 'grandad' and 'amen' pretty distinctly. Which I'm interpreting as a bid for finding favour with my Dad - she's got to do something distinct being granddaughter no.7. Other than that nothing.

Kiwi I would have cheerfully left DS on a bus from time to time, and really easy to feel as if it's you doing a bad job. I wholeheartedly agree with wg a lot of it is to do with what you tell yourself about how it's going. I told myself that DS was a fairly easy baby but in retrospect was awful. I tend towards the self-congratulatory though (in some aspects) which my children seemed to have inherited - aim low and then get ridiculously pleased with yourself for getting there.

Am hoping to get snowed in tomorrow. Flakes whirling past the window so here's hoping. finding it really hard to get back into the swing of working. Especially as I'm pretty fixed on having another baby at the moment. Which is ridiculous in about 100 ways. Doesn't stop me though. Ho hum.

DD is sleeping fine but DS is bit of a pain. Yesterday he woke me at 5:30 to ask if fish moved out of your way (and then if sharks and whales did) and this morning he wanted to know if it was Christmas again. It's going to be a long year....

LadyT - I wouldn't worry too much about LittleLadyT's lack of mobility. My DD's best friend only walked at 2 - her parents fretted about it a lot, took her to a paed, who said there was nothing at all wrong with her and in the end, she walked in her own sweet time. It is hard though, everyone comments. Obviously, there are things that can be wrong, but if DP was a late mover, then its probably just the genetic thing. My sister didn't speak until she was almost 4 but my mum did't worry too much as my uncle had been the same. (She is a lady of many words now ). There are def babies that never crawl. DD's friend bum shuffled - very peculiar thing where she sat up and did a kind of yogic flying thing on her bottom. Apparently bum shufflers are often slow to walk.

Oh and DD still sometimes does the hamster thing. Its very annoying, but doesn't seem to be much we can do about it. It goes in phases and she doesn't do it so much now. Usually happens when she isn't really in the mood for eating, or if what is on offer isn't to her liking.

In great haste, as it's Lucy's first day at school today (providing it is open bec of snow....)

HAve just posted on fatties' thread and now feeling very lardy and depressed. Will some of the other larger ladies pop over to join me so that I am not fat and alone in the ether?

Will be back to post properly later providing school not closed and I don't have all 3 kids, but HAPPY BIRHTDAY lovely Trace . Enjoy your day off with P.

Happy Birthday Trace! Have a wonderful day xx

I must dash as it'll probably take me about an hour to get to my mums when its usually about 10 minutes, bloody snow!! Sybs I'll be over to fatties later on after work, no doubt hanging my head in shame. Right back later, have a good day everyone!

Happy Birthday Trace!! Hope you have a wonderful day.

Too much bloody snow here, I am really sick of it as we have now had it for over 3 weeks and I don't think I will ever see our road again.

DS2 has his jabs today so time to see the HV[eek]

Happy Birthday Trace!

Yay snow! dh stuck home however has gone back to bed

Kayz we also have jabs today - but swine flu for both ds and me - I'm secretly hoping the clinic's cancelled due to snow but I'll have to face it sooner or later so probably best to get it over with - many more jabs to come... At least dh can come and be the mean one holding ds rather than his pathetic mother passing out.
Lady hopefully you're feeling better now after all these great stories!

Sybil, don't feel too you have put your body through h* three times right? You enjoy your cheerfulness so make sure you keep at least one pleasure and don't be too strict.

All the symptoms are coming back to me now... bloated, spots everywhere, only have to eat a piece of toast and I look 6 months pregnant! Quick question for the more than one dc girls... dh says I will show earlier with the second as uterous doesn't need to take any time to do the stretching as it has been done once so will just pop out faster. Did anyone notice that 2nd time around? makes sense I suppose

Happy Birthday Trace - hope you have a lovely day.

Rubes I did show a bit earlier with DD I think - partly because I already had a bit of a pot belly left from DS . Hope jabs go ok.

And for you too kayz and that your HV doesn't say anything too nutty. Am hopefully going to get the DCs SF jab tomorrow - have been trying to for weeks and weeks but neither of them have been well enough.

Hmm lots of hoping. I tried to go into work this morning but trains were completely impossible. About to have another go....not least because this is our nanny share day so my friend's adorable DD is also in the house (she's 7 months) and would be too distracting.

Oooh and jump I was just nosing on the wedding dress thread and saw your dress. Is absolutely beautiful. Wow. You looked amazing (although not sure why you wore that odd black veil ).

Happy Birthday Trace!
Good luck for those going for jabs.
Does anyone have any suggestions for good indoor activities in this weather? T is getting cabin fever but I am a total snow hater and would like to avoid going out as much as possible. He's broken the DVD player so no joy there. And I can't stick Mr Maker!

Rub - ooh yes, felt like I was showing in about 5 mins with DS. With DD it was more like 5-6 months before I was even in maternity wear.

Happy birthday trace - I hope its a lovely day for you!

Syb - off to post the extremely depressing on the other thread

Rub, I felt like I was showing at about 6 weeks with DS2. I was in maternity clothes at 8 weeks.

Thanks to all for the helpful remarks about my immobile DD Appreciated.

Rubes, I have heard that 2nd babies show earlier too. Did you manage to get to the clinic?

It's very deep here. And there was scandal in the village as a Warburton's van was stuck sideways on the hill, blocking the entire road

Spot, saw this a bit late (ooh, sorry about the dvd player) - what about making pastry? Kids love playing with that. On the other hand, he might start eating it (what a great mother I am). What's Mr Maker? I'm not a great fan of the snow either, really.

Go on Urbaneski, have another baby. Go on go on go on gwon gwon gwon gwon....

Oh blow, there isn't gas at the new house we have bought. No gas in the entire village. So it looks like we are stuck with the solid fuel stove powering the entire building for heat and hot water - or else install an oil burner at vast expense. Bah! A plague on country living! We will already have to put up with the ignominy of having 'private drainage' (ie not on the mains so a lorry comes round every now and then to sort out the septic tank. Nice!)

But I have to admit I am sipping some of DP's killer mulled wine and my outlook has improved. It is not carb friendly, so this means I can only have cabbage water for supper or something.

rubs i definately showed quicker 2nd time around, in mat clothes by about 12 weeks IIRC.

lady we have no food in the house (literally just a couple of bottles of red) and my resolve is fading fast...

DS has his MMR and pneumococal(sp) jabs on Friday. He is all out of date and order as the bloody surgery had forgot to send for him. Good job i remembered and rang to check! How has everyone else's LO's taken the MMR? I'm supposed to be out on Friday night but am little worried about leaving him if he might be a bit off colour

I now know why DP's mulled wine tastes so strong. He's been adding plenty of port Ooh dear, I feel a bit tiddly.

dh made a ginormous snowman today. He said he was going out to make one but I had no idea it would be 6 foot tall! Dog went mad running around eating the snow then tried to get her balls off it's head which we used for eyes. Then when it got dark she barked at it and thought there was a big stranger in the garden!
jabs went fine - no passing out and ds was fine. Even had them do dh since he was there too, and missed it at work
ds booked in for his MMR and the others in a couple of weeks, then the others a month after.
Lady, bummer about the gas dh said why don't you just at least put a big propane cylinder for the kitchen - most new appliances come with a propane nozzle kit. Then get a dual fuel cooker. Would last ages.
Thanks for all the 2nd baby showing info. I'm not near needing maternity clothes yet but I definitely feel like it doesn't take much for my clothes to tighten up after a small meal

Evening all, hope no one is snowed in.. and happy birthday Trace!

Thanks for all the advice/ words of wisdom guys, really appreciate it. WG I'm sure you are very very right about depending on your state of mind. The last two days I've been sad to put her to bed after a day at nursery.. whereas at the beginning of the week I was counting the moinutes until bedtime! and Invis I think I will be with you and be SO much happier when she can talk and tell me what she wants! I can't WAIT for her to start talking and walking I must say.

So.. two days of nursery. Seems to be going ok, I think. There's on nursery assitstnat who she's really really taken to and seems to be happy as long as she is there, but howls when she leaves but I'm telling mself that's almost a good sign that she's found someone she likes/trusts already, do you thats right? Also, she's eating which is great as that was a big worry of mine (she ate nothing on her settling in sessions but today ate ALL of her lunch and tea) Again, I tell myself if she was really miserable she wouldn't do that? She howled when I picked her up today but then her favourite assistant had left and it wa a long day for her. They were all saying how much she loves this Tracey, her favourite, and how smiley she is so she must be doing ok...

Those with little ones at nursery - roughly how long do you think it takes for them to get used to it? I don't mind if she cries when she is dropped off (well, I'd rather she didn't but I know lots do that for ages) but more just until she is happy there for (most) of the day... ? I know it's really really hard to generalise but part of me needs to have some kind of time frame in mind...?

for londoners... can anyone make this? LSO concert i'm getting tickets for me and a few friends - i went in october, and it was fab - can't recommend it highly enough - fri 29th at 12.30. maybe see some of you there?

kiwi - glad nursery has gone better than expected. sounds like she is going to love it.

trace - happy happy birthday!

We've had loads more snow this evening. Got more
forecast tomorrow too. I need it to go by next Thursday as I'm going to my Dads for a couple of days as I'm going to see most haunted live with my brother.

I was chatting to Bisou on facebook earlier and he says hello and sends her love. She also says sorry for not coming on anymore but she is very busy.

LadyT - love the thought of being snowed in with mulled wine . The fuel/heating situation sounds annoying. For ridiculous work related reasons, I did get to know a lot about LPG at one point (i.e. propane). If you wanted to and had the outside space to do it, it is possible to install a large fixed tank which you could use for heating/cooking etc. Its like having gas without being on the main. The norm is that the gas companies install the tank for you at no cost, so there is not the same big initial outlay as for an oil tank, but the running costs are definitely more than for oil.

Daisy, Rubena - glad jabs went fine. Our surgery has never ever sent us reminders, its just up to us to sort it out! DS is just due his MMR now. It wasn't a big deal at all for DD, so hope it will be fine for him too. I think if you are going to have trouble it can be 10 days or so before it kicks in, so a Friday night out might be OK for you Daisy.

Kiwi - so glad that nursery is going so much better than you'd feared! Its funny with all these things - it feels like the biggest mountain when you're coming to it, but once its past... Don't really know about settling in periods for littlies but 2.5 yr old DD starts pre-school tomorrow. They expect parents to come in and help twice a term and their advice is not to come in for at least 3 weeks after start - so I guess they work on the basis that it takes about that long to get children properly settled in.

Snow has been fun - we have our first snowman in the garden. But getting a bit concerned about it all - we're supposed to be flying on Tuesday and I really, really don't want to be stuck for hours with DCs or worse, missing my brother's wedding...

Have been meaning to ask you girls if anyone has some bright ideas as I'm a bit stuck. Its DH's 40th birthday on the day we get back from the US. So the poor guy will be jetlagged, 40 and have to drag himself off to a work meeting that same afternoon. I am feeling rather guilty about it, as it is my bro's wedding that is the cause of the trouble, although DH is being rather nice about it. Any thoughts on making it a bit cheerier for him? Not so worried about big presents, will sort that out (and he is so hopelessly fussy, I might just let him pick his own), but do feel the need to do something nice to make it all a bit less miserable.

Otherwise all a bit cheerier here. Got through to the next round on the interview I had before Xmas and if that doesn't work, there's a chance of an interesting secondment. Don't want to bore you with it all, but at least less cause to grump! Now must actually do some work as well...

Grrr, I did a long post last night but my computer lost it, then I fell asleep. Feel brighter today.

WG, how long does the concert last? I need to be back here for 3 for the school run, but would love to come if it's not too long.

Glad bISOU doing well.

Invis, good news on the job. Fingers crossed.

Kiwi, most of my post was about nurseries. I have got to go to do schoool run in just a sec but will be back on later to share my exp with you. It does get easier, honestly .

No more snow here but bitterly cold and am facing 2x 3 mile round trips with Lucy and 2 under 3. Deep joy. Pavements are sheets of ice. Better set off in good time.

Stay warm everyone.

awww my arm is aching from this SF jab, but on a brighter note - ds slept in until just now!! 9am!! normally up at 730 so must be due to the jabs! I can recommend them

WG: the concerts look great but they won't let you in without a child and mine will be in childcare! Dammit.

LadyT: love the sound of your DH's mulled wine recipe. I think DH would have a heart attack if I tried to pry some port out of him for mulled wine (he hates the stuff).

Re: walking, I think I'd be worried if she wasn't sitting up or was a bit floppy. But it just sounds like she's working on more interesting stuff . DS2 is certainly slower to walk than DS1 who was charging about by 11 months, but he seems to be speaking more (he quacked yesterday for the first time, I was so proud!) plus he waves, claps and is now kissing everyone.

DS2 had his 12 month jabs yesterday - all fine. And we finally put him in with DS1, which meant I spent a lot of the night freezing while pacing around the landing! But it was nice to have the room to ourselves, first time in over 3 years. Managed to avoid feeding him until 5am, so not bad on that front.

syb - concert lasts around 45 mins as far as i can remember. maybe an hour at the most. it is absolutely magical.

sorry to hear about the arm rubes - we are off for madam's booster jabs in an hour or so - not looking forward to it. don't know whether i should bf her while doing it to help with the pain. will then make sf and mmr appt when we're there. poor lamb.

that is, if i can negotiate the icy pavemtents.

WG, I would love to come to that then - may have to shoot off afterwards but perhaps we could meet for coffee / lunch before?

Effie I will have 2 with me so if you want to come you can borrow one of mine to get through the door!

Shall I paypal you the cash or just igve you a fiver on the day?

Morning,

DS2 had his jabs yesterday and had a short cry(about 30 seconds) and was fine. I am meant to be taking DS1 to see the HV this afternoon as MIL thinks he is too skinny. Not sure if I can bothered with the snow.