August 2008 - Whistle No. More Here It Is!

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evening all

stay strong Ann... remember...consistency is your friend! blimey, how corny does that sound!!

DP out drinking tonight. DS and i had leftover shepherd's pie for dinner and i've just seen an email from dp that he sent me earlier saying that he's eating at home tonight... i hope he fancies a cheese sandwich!

Yeah sazzles no chance at all that he'll get too hot. This house is drafty as all hell, and we have non-working heating at the moment as well. To top that off Seb ALWAYs wiggles out from under his blankets, and is generally icy cold when I pick him up So I think the grobag is a GOOD thing, and I have been talking about getting one for a while. (so many thanks to VG for sending me this one ) It's only a 1 tog anyway, so have put another light blanket on over it although this has no doubt fallen off him.

Still quiet here, and DP nearly home. Earliest he's been back all week. Well it will be when he gets in.

Oops your sweet P's biting is truly exploratory.

Dizzy your sweet D's biting is because she has no other way to communicate her anger. Sazzles description of removing the biter from the area without interaction could solve your problem. However, she needs to be taught how to interact with the older girls when she's angry. When she's found to have biten one of the girls try to use an understanding tone with words like, "D you must be mad at DD? but biting is bad. Tell her no instead or stop." Then YOU tell the DD? "NO" or "STOP" so D can see the example. Teaching a child to use words instead of actions is difficult but actions are very very basic but reinforcing the idea from a young age really works. I hope this crazy mild idea helps.

GO ANN!!!! S will be fine just let him yell for a bit then he'll get the idea.

Queenie - No not too early DD normally in bed at 7pm on the dot. We found that at 8pm she was still ratty in the morning and moved it to 7 as an experiment and she slept until the same time the next morning so it stayed at 7.

DD loves her grobag and will fetch it after her milk and give it to me to put on before we go in to her room. If she doesn't have it she tends to run up and down like a piggy in a pen. She never keeps her covers on.

Buckets - clever move ditching the NCT in favour of DH

Buckets - we had Chilli beef, lemon chicken DH had a special omlette and chips I had a few chips and beef and chicken.

Glad to hear all is quiet

I'm not one to be giving advice as DD1 is still up watching River Cottage . She slept in the car from 4.45 to 5.15pm so i'm not going to fight her going to bed

OMG, literally just as i finished typing that DD1 said 'i'm going to bed now' Miracle, i tell you, miracle!!

Oh and i am ROFL at TS's no nonsense advice 'just let him yell for a bit then he'll get the idea'. If you posted that as a thread i can just imagine the responses you would get

7pm bedtime for both mine. Changed from 8...9 last year. Has been wonderful!!! R even has 2+ hours of nap some days and still off to dreamland with ease by 7p. Up by 6a. Cheery Cheery Cheery.

at Chilli beef

Mind you, DH's pea and herb risotto with pan fried chicken was delish

Yeah, I guess the early sleep makes me nervous after past experience, but this is what I have been NEEDING to acheive. DP for some reason always assumes that if S goes down early he'll be up at midnight for a few hours. Granted this did used to happen, but we are trying to train him into good sleeping habits.
S has been very grumpy in the days, and incredibly hard work, and I personally think it's because he's tired.
Hasn't been a peep out of him since I put him down.
Our routine this evening went:
Dinner
Bath
play (moan)
grobag
story
boobie
bed.
DP back so heading off now.

i have "learned" to keep my opinions to this thread and this thread alone.

Queenie sounds like you've got it down and S is following along nicely.

LOL TS, we did the same with DD2 around midnight last night. I went in once put her down and left her to it. Granted it was more moaning than shouting but soon subsided

Well done Queen, sounds like a lovely evening before bed for both of you. Really hoping you get a quiet one all night

Putting the grobag on then cuddling for a lullaby is basically Kurt's bedtime routine! If in doubt, imagine you have 2 older children to deal with, third babies learn v quickly that they have no choice about anything much, let alone sleep.

And do you know, everyone always comments on how content he seems. Just shows how much they like their perameters (perimeters?) set and too much choice just stresses them out.

parameters

R is the same way. She's content with whatever plan as long as it means she gets food and sleep. Child 2, 3, 4 and so on just have to figure it out on their own. All the stress we inflict on ourself over Child 1 seems silly in hindsight. At least it does for me because i STRESSED, CRIED, WORRIED, YOU NAME. Now it's like, "R bed" and R looks at me like, "okay".

Perimiters would work too

How are your gorgeous girls TS?

Oh crap, perimeters . Now they all look funny typed

DD1 still all quiet. Very weird, just taking herself off

TS i never really stressed with DD1, very odd really. Although my sister was ALWAYS hot on bedtimes and i think i just followed suit [sheep]

today?... this moment? R is fussing because she wants to eat and DD1 is fussing because she's kept herself in check all day at school and is now RELEASING. Put them in a sound proof bubble and they'd be pretty as can be.

Sazzles you are the most naturally laid back individual on the planet. I wouldn't expect you to have ever worried over either girl. There's a natural harmonious balance with you and them that would be worth millions if you could reproduce it for us common folk.

DD1 has been delicious all day . She saw an aeroplane and told me it was off to 'Merica. Then 'can we go to 'Merica?'. Bless

Thanks TS

I told her 'no, we won't be going back to 'Merica coz mad people live there'

You just go tell her she can come to Merica anytime she likes. She will always have a place to stay. Mad people live here.....

But you are mad, in a lovely way of course

And we love mad people