One small step for Baby, one large step (or mad dash to prevent disaster) for Mumkind

[ninja]

Hi, Welcome to the new thread, the one where we can't drink a cup of tea in peace (there you go, we could have used that for a title!!)

I was in bodyshop yesterday and M trashed the place. Luckily the sales assistant thought she was sweet as she pulled things off displays and legged it out the shop with jars of body butter (several times)!!, cue me legging it after her with a handful of makeup . Luckily there were no store detectives aroud. She also tried to wear every shoe within her reach at the shoe shop.

Olly to win. Joe bores the crap out of me, he's just so beige - even though he has the better voice.

I hope the poorly dc are better soon.

DS has 12 teeth. I wish he teethed like BabyNC has as he's awful when he teethes. He must be in such pain as he's usually a content little thing.

Mind you, saying that the past week or so he's been a bit of a Babyzilla. Throwing himself around and crying when he can't do something he wants to. It's v v wearing, I have been biting my lip and ignoring A LOT.

dd2 still only has 5 teeth, and the 5th is hardly visible - her teeth seem to grow so slowly, maybe she's in discomfort well before there's any sign of them. She is chomping on her finger, so am sure tooth 6 will pop through at some point. Thing is, apart from 1 whingey day, she is generally very jolly all day. So doesn't really add up. She's asleep with 1 leg mysteriously hanging out of her babygro at the moment. The chilly leg will probably wake her at some point Since giving in to her again, things have improved a bit - last couple of nights only woke once.

But she does wake early - will only either muck about in bed with me, or I must get up. She will not tolerate being put on the floow with toys while I attempt to remain in bed.

She did have a bit of a tantrum in Tescos today - couldn't understand why at 1st. But seems she recognised that dd1 had some chocolate, as soon as she got a tiny bit she was fine. The raisins, blueberries & vegetable biscuit things on the front of her buggy weren't good enough. I'm sure dd1 still hadn't had any chocolate or biscuits by this age. Oh well.

Agree re Xfactor. Olly more charismatic performer, tho think Joe's voice best

ILTMIMI I love Babyzilla . That describes my DD too! First her bottom lip gets stuck out then she throws herself to the floor howling .

I think I am in need of a quiet room for 24 hours, we went to 2 parties today. This morning we went to a family party at a local church, they dressed up and did the Xmas story and had nibbles and glitter & glue crafts for the children, it was lots of fun but chaotic. Then in the afternoon I took DS to one of his friends birthday parties, again lots of fun but my ears are ringing. I'm about to crack open the Horlicks.

DD has 10 teeth, I think there's more on the way now as her poo was a bit icky this weekend.

ds2 has 4 molars and 6 front teeth (4 top, 2 bottom) with the next 2 bottom ones just about through. 9 in 2 weeks is crazy!

I was wondering if there's a link between babies getting proper solid food from a very young age and getting their molars before other teeth.

He is also very good at the tantrums. I remember this age being hard with ds1 too. Its the frustration on not being able to communicate or do what they think they should be able to do.

Maybe we should put Babyzillas in our next thread title. I love that!

Lots of tantrums here too I think the twos are coming early lol

debi an interesting theory about the teeth. Baby e was weaned at 4 months though and has not got any molars yet.

Well done for doing your bit dig that poor poor man.

I always ask if I can help people now. I went to legoland in the summer and I was in the hotel foyer when a heavily pregnant women was very distressed. I went over to help and ended up delivering her baby it was lovely .

I helped an old lady who had fallen in town on sat. I must have looked a sight helping her stand with my crutches. Talking of which I have had my plaster cast taken off this morning. My foot feels so funny. However, its very stiff and a bit achey which was not what I expected. I am going to have a bath now as its a bit smelly too! eeee
XChat laterx

mama I don't know if there's anything behind that thoery at all. I just thought it up when I was wondering why ds2 has molars before other teeth and before ds1 did. Ds2 ate more food that required chewing at a younger age than ds1.

Wow that you helped deliver a baby. Must have been amazing! Was there anyone else there?

I am absolutely fuming with my neighbours at the moment. We've had issues with them banging on the wall before but not for ages. The last night at about 10.30 ds2 woke up coughing and was crying with a sore throat. DH settled him but then he started again. He didn't stop when picked up so we left him crying for a few minutes while we sorted everything out for going to bed. While he was crying the neighbours (who weren't asleep as we could hear their music and hear them talking) banged on the wall with something so hard that the house shook! I was so angry and almost cried.
We then gave ds2 calpol and he calmed down and slept fine.
Then this morning at 7.30am ds1 had a tantrum and was screaming about something. And the guy then banged on the wall again! As I wasn't in the same room as ds1 I shouted something very unchristian like through the wall at him He then left for work 2 mins later so we can't have been disturbing his sleep.

Mama how cool/scary to deliver someone's baby!

Debi lol at your unchristian shouting.

I have a really annoying cough. It is killing me.

Anyone got any tips for friend with million-times-a-night waking baby? It's been getting steadily worse since 3 months and baby is now about 5 months and feeding anything up to 6 times a night (as in, from about 9pm-7am). She is contemplating controlled crying, and I can't really offer any advice as T was horrific, then suddenly randomly improved without us doing anything, at about 9 months.

T is still not pulling up/cruising/making any particular effort to walk and still mostly commando crawls. Occasionally crawls on his knees, but not particularly. I have not been remotely worried (he isn't at all stressed, seems to be developing, albeit slowly, is very vocal and chatty and everything, reasonable fine motor skills) but people keep asking me if I'm worried. Should I be? Am I bad mummy?

We are officially TTC. Although we have probably already missed the boat this month. How does one fit in TTC when already looking after number one baby!!??

This is one of those days that makes you feel like a failure of a parent. DS is grouchy, clingy, constantly whingeing, occasionally SCREAMING and very often crying. I am about to jump out of the window, as he's doing my head in.

This is most unlike him, as he's generally quite contented, but he's got a cold: runny nose, red eyes, coughs, and sometimes sounds like he's gagging! I know it's just a cold and there is no temperature, so I've not gone to the GP, but have you expert mothers any tips to keep him a) entertained even though he's poorly and b) to deal with the snot?

debi what horrible neighbours. I would have yelled back too. My old neighbours always used to say they could hear DS crying when he was tiny, funnily enough they never mentioned DD's crying as they had their own one by then . And [smug face] their DS was several months older than DD but still crying at night long after DS was sleeping through .

Pacita we're having an afternoon like that too. And now I'm dreading the guys next door coming home

Pacita we're having an afternoon like that too. And now I'm dreading the guys next door coming home

Your poor friend with the crying night waking baby hopefully I think 5 months is a bit young for cc imo. Has she started to wean?? I would just be there for her and reassure that it will and does get better.
T sounds perfectly normal to me enjoy him now and the freedom that comes with a non- walker!

I think there might be a few new arrivals thhis year

Debi How old are your neighbours and are they without children?

I delivered the baby on my own as the ambulance was stuck in traffic. The hotel worker and the ladies friend looked in horror and got me towels. The baby was only 30 weeks but perfectly healthy . It has actually made me think about becoming a midwife but I am not sure about shift work with my young family. Maybe in the future.
Tbh all of you would know what to do in this situation as I found alot of what I know is what I pick up on here. Lets face it we all studied, talked about and thought labour and giving birth for months and months. I just reasurred her told her it would be fine, when to push and the best bit was congratulating her . xx Door bell

Oh Debi, yes, those neighbours of yours just add insult to injury. I hope they behave today. Everyone has a grumpy baby every once in a while.

mama - how exciting delivering a baby. I would love to deliver someones else's baby - that sounds quite an odd thing to say doesn't it?!

Hopefully - I really wouldn't worry about the walking. If he's ok in every other way then it seems quite normal. I didn't walk until I was 18 months and my BIL didn't until he was 2!

I wouldn't do controlled crying on a baby that young tbh. There's probably a reason for the waking so you have to find out what the reason is through a process of elimination. But sometimes it's just the way they are.

Pacita - walks outside? It helps clear the snot, I also find having the house too hot can make a stuffy head worse. We also tend to read LOTS of books when he's feeling off colour. Play with him with his toys, but don't let it get all out of hand and manic as it often leads to major meltdown. M has a tea-set and some plastic food and we sit there for about 30 mins playing with that.

Oh and raise one end of his mattress if you haven't already.

Oh, and happy shagging hopefully - I refuse to call it baby dancing!

Debi - when you are about to move, post one of ds's poo's through the neighbours letterbox.

ILTMIMI That might be a bit extreme but made me smile

mama it's 2 guys who are mid to late 20s. 1 has a girlfriend, don't know about the other. I'd love to be a fly on the wall if they ever become dads on the 1st night of their baby screaming and them not knowing what to do.

Baby dancing may be the most revolting phrase ever used in the world. Ever.

Pacita we've had quite a few days like that recently. Lots of walking with the pram saved me, as T is happier (nine times out of ten) in the pram. Was so nice today as he was happy and (slightly) less snotty than he has been recently.

Glad none of you are concerned about T's non-moving. DP didn't walk till 20 months, and barely crawled, so I'm thinking he's inherited the lazy genes! Unfortunately he has also inherited my complete and utter wimpiness with pain. You have never seen a baby cry so much over a gentle bump on the head/bang on the hand from dropping a toy. Bit embarrassing as he's the biggest, most robust looking baby ever!

Will be supportive of friend and tell her not to do CC if at all possible - I already told her that I couldn't do it, no matter how much I wanted to, because after about three minutes I probably would have murdered DP to get at my poor crying baby!

oh, was going to ask if any others have eczema or similar.

dd2 started getting dry patches on her leg in the summer, I thought might be from crawling about outside so much 9especially with her strange musketeer 1 kneed upright crawl), but got worse and was covered up so couldn't be abrasion.

Took her to the GP a few weeks ago, thinking was poss eczema as I have it a little 7 was worse when I was young, but she thought was more likely psoriasis. As not in creases, but on lower leg, also 1 elbow, and affects quite defined area. She also gets red patches on her face when eating - wonder if contact with some food is causing reaction, and whether that might affect skin condition too. We have creams but nothing is making that much difference at the moment and she scratches at it if gets any access to the skin.

Googled & said was v rare in babies...

splish has your dd's skin got worse since you moved? I wonder if the water might be harder in your new area and be the cause of her irritated skin. After years of creams and gp and allergy clinic visits I've pinpointed ds's ecxema to the very hard water in our area. When he has showers his skin is perfect (no creams needed), but even plain water baths or ones with oil / cream added cause his skin to flare up. It affects his face + hands if I use water + flannels to wipe dirt / food off. DD's skin gets irritated by it too. IIRC the local news had a piece on a trial in the portsmouth area that is having success with fitting water softeners to houses with children that suffer with bad skin.

It's just dawned on me that I have loads of xmas presents to buy. I'm going to give dd her lunch then put her down for a nap and do some serious list making!

Grrrrrrrrrrr. I just left the house for literally ten minutes to pick T up from the CM, and the delivery man came to deliver a parcel that i also missed during my ten minute outing yesterday (at a different time). I am beginning to suspect a conspiracy!

I hate it when that happens hope they ARE watching you! lol x

We have internet, but its only a dongle thing so slow compared to broadband, and each time I'm on here I spend so long reading to catch up that I never get to post, so in an act of quality parenting, dd is watching tv and ds is in bed! Bring on the 23rd and our broadband being connected. I'll get some house photos up on fb eventually!

Sooo much has happened...we lived with the decorator being here every day for three weeks, he's not finished the skirting boards and doorframes in the hall but that can wait. The loung is lovely, a peaceful sanctuary, and that's enough for now! Wardrobes arrive Friday so bedroom will be finished once we've had the mother of all flatpack parties!

Ds has really grown up in the last month. Still not walking, but lots more words and signs, and headbutting the floor is his favourite way of expressing displeasure . We didn't do BLW, but he started picking up cutlery of his own accord a few months ago and is growing in proficiency. He and dd are both very off their food at the moment, just not on a growth spurt I guess. We're pretty much sacking of dinner altogether coz we're fed up of throwing food away. DS has his second molar coming through and don't we know it - vile, splattery nappies, dribble and misery. He's been waking at 6am for the last couple of weeks, I've been trying to limit his daytime sleep in the hope that he'll be tired enough to sleep through til 7 but its not working, so as of yesterday I'm letting him sleep for as long as he wants in the day...three hours and counting...looks like we're not going out this afternoon!

DD nearly had to go to hospital a couple of weeks ago (glad she didn't as its the same one poor ponymum's dd was in ) as she had a cough but started wheezing. She was so happy in herself I felt like a complete fraud taking her to the docs, but dh and I are both asthmatic so I didn't want to risk it. Doc was really worried, breathing rate double what it should be, and lots of signs of bronchiolitis (even technically it couldn't be coz she's 2 1/2). She phoned the hospital as they usually want to see kids with her symptoms, but managed to speak to a consultant who prescribed steroids and an inhaler over the phone. She told the consultant I'm a "very sensible mother" so could be spared the hopsital visit . It was a chest infection, but i'm sure all the plaster dust in the house can't have helped.

When do all of you find the time to go shopping?! Over christmas dh and i are each going to give each other a day off. My plan is to take my christmas money to town and turn it into clothes and shoes and bags. I don't even know what's in the shops at the moment, hopefully some nice new jeans will be though as I've gone through the knee of my fave ones.

hopefully you know what I'm going to say about your friend's baby...how do they fall asleep? If they're fed/rocked, then they'll be looking for that when they come into a light sleep to help them fall asleep again. Also how much milk are they getting in the day? If its not enough they'll be trying to catch up overnight.

Hmm, its 4pm, what would GF say at ds still being asleep, and dd being parked in front of cbeebies? Time to do some parenting and crack open the finger paints.

Who am I trying to kid. A little peek at AIBU won't hurt....!

ILTMIMI Thanks for the advice. Diego has snot, cough and a temperature of 38.1 under his arm. I'm beginning to wonder whether it is flu rather than a cold. I've given him a bath, cleared his nose with saline and sprinkled olbas oil in his teddy bear.

Carriebo definitely a peek into AIBU wont hurt one bit! It sounds like you've had enough to deal with lately!

And Hopefully, Diego doesn't walk either. He took two accidental steps on his own today, but that is it. They say that chunky babies take longer to walk, so I'm not worried either. Lord knows he gets where he wants to get to anyway!

Splish Diego used to have eczema when he was littler. He now has red rough patches in the folds of his hand, and now due to his cold in his chin. Sometimes they appear in his ankles as well. The most important thing I think is to keep them very well moisturised morning and evening, and to use as little soap as possible or none at all. There is a very greasy cream called badger balm which I've been using in his face these days and seems to help. Also Aveeno (a MN favourite) or a cream for atopic skins that I get in spain called Xeramance. You can also get it in france. Let me know if you'd like me to bring you some from Spain. It really is good.

Today I felt terrible. I came back home from work in a hurry, having been worrying about him not being well, and he literally pushed me away as I came in, making a fuss and turning to his dad. I wonder why, and whether this is some sort of punishment for being away. It just makes you feel so rejected!

Poor Pacita - Diego must be feeling better! A seems to prefer dad too, but also his only word is 'Dad-dy', which is a general approval word but shouted 10x louder for the real Daddy. I was less interesting than a urine sample bottle this evening, apparently.

Over the weekend I ended up with the tummy bug A had had, and then he couldn't go to nursery because of the impetigo, so yesterday was not fun for either of us especially as he clearly was still not very well and had gippy tum from the ABs as well. Thank the gods for CBeebies! Except Waybuloo which needs its own circle of hell. A likes operating the remote himself so quite often ends up changing channel which I don't usually have a problem with. But he's getting quite good at tantrums when you won't let him play with things (like the phone, soy sauce bottles, sharp stuff) so I try to let him have anything that's fairly safe that he points at (hence the sample pot which is his favourite toy atm...)

One more working day to Christmas, no preparation really yet. Suppose I'd better plan better in future as the familybabies will be old enough to notice!

DS on ABs too for his chesty cough and rattly lungs. Has generally been ok with it and I've persevered with taking him out in the buggy at least once a day in the hope that a blast of fresh air should help. But it is so cold today I had to put the heating back on at lunchtime.

Anyway, he's had no appetite today and then brought up what little he has had this evening in a rather spectacular fashion that required a 2-man clean up job. He has only just gone down with his daddy - also referred to as Dad-deeee.

pacita so does that mean Diego wasn't gasping for a feed when you walked through the door? Pushing mummy away has got to be a good sign that he's feeling better.

DS has been quite clingy this evening and paid rather more attention than usual to my boobs, despite it being over two weeks since his last feed. Now I know it's because he wasn't feeling at all well. Yet again I feel guilty for having given up, especially with no job to go to.

carriebo nice to see you back here. I must admit I spend A LOT of time with cbeebies on, especially now all his regular activities have closed for the hols. And DS had a 2 hour nap from 4-6, what would GF make of that?! (in my defence he's ill so I let him sleep as much as he wanted).