June 08- the shoes, the food, the glamour!

[pureeandpearls]

Struggling to load pages these days and saw we were over the 900 so took the liberty of starting a new thread.

In brief, BDQ, try tucking the sleeping bag in at night. It sounds very strange but it makes them feel more secure - kind of swaddling for toddlers. I did this with both Christian and Dorothy when they started nightwaking at about this age and it worked! Doorthy might wake up for a couple of minutes but she soon goes back to sleep, instead of standing up and yelling.

Neenz I was following Dizzy's thread too but missed the troll thing. I admit she did seem to have an awful lot of trauma going on but I just thought she was really, really, unlucky! (naive emoticon) I think the fact that another mn-er (deemented possibly?) is obviously very chummy with her made me think it was real. But actually, I guess they could be the same person. I think I would be quite glad to find out she was a troll, no one should have to go through that.

Sponge how many weeks now? I thought I had it in my head that you were actually due this month. So very, very exciting...

Hi guys, quick post as I'm off back to bed - feeling a bit crap this morning.

I'm 37 weeks today sybil, due on 28th October but please everyone keep everything crossed for me that LO comes early . I am sooo much pain now it just isn't funny. PP, lots of BHs which I keep thinking are something else, but no news on induction. Back to the hospital on Friday where I may cry and beg for them to induce me - am starting to have panic attacks now about going into a fast labour at home. I handled the pain of labour so badly last time, but at least I was in hospital and had access to pain relief .

sybil, demented is definitely a real person and lost a child herself which is why she has become so involved - she doesn't know dizzy but is trying to support her. That's why other MNers are worried about her cos if dizzy is a troll it would be awful for demented to have been used like that after what she's been through .

PP, I am so glad it was November not October! Maybe I'll have Bill on your birthday then .

Sponge - hope you are feeling better.

Our libraries seem pretty good with a good selection of books, so far not run into any big nursery groups.

PP - sounds like you might get to see your father this week then?

I try to limit the amount of Cbeebies we have on. Anyone else find that their LO gets a bit mesmerised by childrens programmes? If I'm watching other things on TV he just ignores it (unless it's Animal Park!) and carries on playing with his toys but as soon as it is kids TV he stops what he is doing to watch it. Obviously he enjoys it so we tend to just watch a couple of programmes then switch it off. He's glued to Chuggingtonn right now!

BDQ - I've bought vacuum bags at Instore before but I'm not sure they were as good quality as Dunelm ones. Great for storing things in the loft.

We don't iron here, luckily neither of us used to for work, great thing about lab coats! In an old job I used to have to get changed as soon as I got to work into a lovely polyester pyjama like outfit, it did save on the washing though! DH makes his own sandwiches as well, I'm a mean housewife!

Sympathy Sponge- go with the cry and beg approach (((hugs))))

Hello hello

I'm sorry I haven't been around for ages. We had a lovely holiday in Ireland and since then have been stripping wallpaper (our bed is permanently full of rubble) and enjoying the groudhog day that is school term time. DD1 started school in September and loves it, but is being horrendous when she's at home - screaming all morning when I'm getting everyone ready and then the same again in the evening. By the time I get home from the morning school run, at about 9am, I feel as though I have worked a full day. Then steel myself to go back at 3.15 for some more until bedtime. She was actually lovely this morning so hopefully this little phase is coming to an end.

She also tried to go home on her own one day (my fault, she thought I'd gone ahead) and we had a full-scale missing-chid-hunt at school, minutes away from calling the police, all the staff involved...when she was found I totally broke down and sobbed all over the place so have been crippled with embarassment ever since. I'm still getting lots of kind smiles from people as I drag my screaming child to school, and feel a bit exposed, as though I've had to ask an acquaintance to help me with a bedpan.

Thea is doing well, had her MMR yesterday, running around the house (but still no shoes - the 2 shops we've been to don't have the right size or summat). Still breastfeeding and I'm reluctant to let go as it will be the last time.

So, can anyone brief me on the news since the summer? How is Sponge's bump? And Ktpie's and Puree's? How are all the jobs going? And the babies? I don't want to know if everyone has lost all their baby weight and bought a super winter wardrobe and a juicer. Just tell me that you are all covered in snot and wearing tracksuits .

x

Sympathies, Sponge. What about having some acupressure or something to try to start labour? Definitely beg them for induction!

Abdn, totally agree that the nursery kids should get the 'library experience', not too sure about the nursery taking books out though. And yeah they should behave like your said.

I do not iron any of the kids' clothes, goodness, they would never have anything to wear - it is hard enough to get things washed and back in the wardrobe in time to wear again. I have had to buy loads of clothes this time cos my sis's DD (2.5yrs) is only tiny and E has caught up with her so there have been no hand-me-downs in the 18-24mth size yet!

I put E in some 18-24 mths trousers today cos all her 12-18 stuff is too short. They were so long! I had to roll them up loads - she looks a right state.

BDQ, how did S sleep last night? T has been waking in the night too but it is just his cold I think, I can tell he can't breathe well.

My period is officially late today . I have not had any cramps or anything which I usually get a few days before my period starts. I took a test this morn but it was negative, but I am only 10DPO (I OV at day 18/19 of 28/29 day cycle) so it is still a bit early for a positive test. Will try again tomorrow!

SPonge Hope you are feeling better after your lie down.

Rolf Both my girls were qite unpleasent when they started school, just so tired. I hope it passes very soon!

Neenz I am sorting out some clothes at the moment and just foind some girls Gap jeans in 18 - 24 months and some H&M trousers in 12-18, they both look the same size and are probably a bit maller than newly bought as they have been washes. Let me know if you would like then and I will post them to you tommorow.

x-posted Rolf - hello!! Long time no hear, I have been meaning to text you to see where you were. Welcome back. I hate doing round-ups cos you always forget something major but PP is off to New Zealand soon to live, but has made contact with her father as well having not known him since she was a baby. Sponge is close to popping and is struggling with spd, ktpie and Puree's pregnancies are going well, me, Amber and Poppy are ttcing with no luck so far (fingers crossed for this month), UDC's LO is having probs fitting in at school, Ali has changed her name to SpiderWilliam cos her mum found out her mn name, Essie is working far too hard and is being left home alone a lot with DH working away, Going's DD is doing great with the modelling, AMber's sis is PG again... Viva and Sybil still post and BDQ is studying lots. Phew. I know I will have forgotten something major. Sorry

Going, wow, thanks, what have you got to pass on? I am after trousers, long-sleeved tops and cardigans (I am not very adventurous when dressing the DTs ). I will give you a couple of pounds per item if that sounds reasonable?

Hi Rolf - I am still holding all my baby weight but don't own a tracksuit - how about shapeless jeans?! Good to hear from you!

Neenz - good luck for a positive test although I will be jealous clearly!

Ironing - you know what - I couldn't tell you the last time I ironed anything. Certainly not Luke's clothes!

Sponge - have you decided on your approach to breastfeeding yet? I also would beg for an induction. Sit on the floor and don't move until they let you have one!

Cbeebies - blimey i have it on non-stop. That and Sky plussed animal hospital and Pet rescue 9which Luke prefers). He has started to get very excited when he hears the theme tune to Pet rescue and runs into the living room to point at 'dats' and 'ogs' on the opening credits!

PP - how do you feel about seeing your dad. I'm glad he's made the effort. Are you going to do it?

UDC I'm going to try that tucking in thing as Luke wakes in the night. Mark has taken to running in with a bottle of milk without even trying to let him cry it out so now he thinks he's on the night feeds again

Hi Rolf! Good to hear your holiday went well. Sounds like you are busy, the joys of decorating!
I'm doing fine, 24 weeks now, getting lots of lovely heartburn and always tired but otherwise OK.

Neenz- good luck with the test!

J has just been doing a funny dance to the theme tune for Timmy Time, he thought the sheep DJing was hilarious!

[waves to Rolf] sounds like you've had a sucky few weeks (((hugs)))

Good round up Neenz (and fingers crossed)

Hellooooooo Amber- did the invite reach you? With you on CBeebies, though the POcket Dictator is all about theme tunes rather than contents. Frustrating about the night-feeding thing too, though at Mark going in at night. DH sleeps through everything, or so it seems.

Pocket Dictator has been miserable and whingy all day: trying to decide if it's the change in weather (put the heating on today and dug out the buggysnuggle) or teeth. And now it seems she's helped herself to dog treats from the cupboard in the kitchen. How bad are they for kids????

I'm sure it will be fine, Puree - does it have a list of ingredients on the box? There won't be anything in them humans can't have.

I am such a wuss - I have had the heating on morning and evening for weeks now. And the sleeping bags for the buggy went on about a month ago too.

Rolf, I forgot in my round-up that Abdn's DS Fraser has been in hospital with a hernia, he had the op and it went well but then he had a swollen testicle but everything should clear up fine eventually, allnew and whinegums have gone back to work - whinegums is enjoying it but allnew has a crappy boss who thinks he can just ask her to work on her days off or stay late even though she has a baby to pick up

Right if I have still forgotten someone even after that I am going to be in big trouble!

I have just bought E some clothes on ebay - five tops and five pants for a tenner including p&p . She should be fine now for 6mths... gotta get Theo some now.

ktpie, love the sound of your pyjama outfit - what on earth did you do for a living?!

puree, do you think they would induce if I cried? I cried last week and the cons didn't seem that moved . I know your SPD was worse than mine last time, but did you get induced cos of it? I really do want this baby out now .

Oh, and don't worry about the biscuits - my friend's LO is always helping himself to food from their cat bowls and it doesn't seem to have done him any harm!

Rolf, how lovely to see you back - you've been missed. Thank you for asking after me - bump is big, but of course by Christmas I'll be back in my size 8 18 clothes! (Oh, and my trousers are always covered in snot and I promise you it's Alex's not mine!).

Neenz, will keep my fingers crossed for a BFP.

going, feeling a little better, thanks for asking.

Amber, lol at staging a sit in for an induction - I'll try it . And yes, I have done lots of research this time on bf. I have spoken to the head of midwifery at the hospital, got bf counsellor no on my mobile (and been to speak to her) and my NCT teacher is lined up to help too. Both of the other two mums in my NCT refresher group bf-ed their first kids so I absolutely can't fail this time as it would be too embarrassing .

What a pain about Mark feeding Luke in the night - you don't want to go down that road again do you .

Oh and can anyone help me with this:

cost of jewellery

I know it's an incredibly nosey question, but it's genuine one!

Sponge, I am so rooting for you with the BFing. Was the problem last time inverted nipples? I have a friend with inverted nipples who BF her DD (with perserverance) using nipple shields. Did you try them? It's a very common and tricky problem .

But remember (and I'm sure you don't need me to tell you this) you will not have failed if it doesn't work out again. You have done everything you can to inform and prepare yourself and now you just have to hope for a bit of luck .

Yeh, Sponge- what she said !

I did indeed beg wail and plead last time to get induction for SPD. It took a lot of work, and I was incredibly reluctant to stop crying or indeed leave his office, which did help. I also pointed out that:

I had no support network at home (a major factor, I think)
My husband had to take time off work (didn;t mention that he can work from home)to look after me
I was in constant agonising pain that meant I was physically incapable of doing anything, I cry all the time etc ( I may have looked up symptoms of depression in advance to help this point...)
I was on the strongest meds allowed whilst pregnant and they weren't enough.

He reluctantly agreed to think about induction at 39 weeks, byut I pointed out that the MW had talked about a 38 week induction and he then had to go and speak with his boss before coming back and saying that 38 weeks was absolutely the earliest they could do it. So he put on my notes the 12th May. I later found out that hospital policy was t bring you in the night before and start the induction so actually ended going in on 11th.....it was five long days but five days in a private room with a zimmer frame and the knowledge that I was getting the baby out. HTH. FWIW you cannot cry/talk about your inability to cope enough (men get uncomfortable with that sort of stuff plus there is always a concern about depression. Manipulative? Moi? Make no bones about it, I'll be using the same tactics this time.)

neenz I just found some trousers in the stuff I was sorting out today. I see you laready bought some on ebay but I am in the mood for decluttering so will post them to you for free. Send me a message via fb and I will get them in the post.

SPonge I asked to be inducded with ds and tried getting really upset but the dr very kindly told me my bump was so huge I would go in to labour before my due date as my body couldn't stretch anymore he was right I had him 4 days later! Hope you get more luck!

KT I had a pyjama suit too, lucky I didn't go back to work as I wouldn't have wanted to wear my proper uniform again after being so comfy in scrubs.

Neenz, thank you . Last time was a combination of lack of preparation, tongue tie, flat nipples, crap post-natal care and an over-wrought highly strung mother .

puree, that's really helpful thank you - I'm not even using crutches at the moment (although probably should be now ) so I don't know how convincing I'll be, but can certainly push for the lack of support at home and coping with Alex angle. In all honesty it is getting very difficult - I had to leave him in a dirty nappy for 30 mins today cos I couldn't get down on the floor to change him .

going, I hope you're right! Can I be really nosey and ask why you wanted to be induced?

udc how do you tuck them in their sleeping bag? [bit thick]. We had a very long night last night . Been poorly today too - nearly passed out at work.

Thanks for the dunelm mill tip allnew - there's one near me so I'll have a look.

Sponge my SIL had loads of bf probs 1st time around and didn't manage but absolutely fine with it. Absolutley rooting for you (you might remember I had loads of problems too) but please don't put yourself under pressure and think you'll have failed if it doesn't work out.

abdn and everyone else, I do suspect I was being just a wee but unreasonable about the nursery using the library and I certainly wouldn't want to discourage any children using the library.

neenz yay for eBay bargains! I had a couple of bargains arrive in the post today. Haven't seen any bundlles that appeal to me yet but S certainly has a fair bit of 2nd hand boden for nursery

Meant to say SIL fine with it this time round sponge!

Sponge Ireally struggled to feed dd1. I did carry on until she was 11 weeks but was in agony as both my nipples very very badly cracked. Even after I stopped they took over a month to heal. My experince was ery different with dd2 and ds though I'm not really sure what changed.
Re wanting to be induced. I felt like I had been pregnant for a very long time as I got pregnant soon after a mid trimester mc, I had had a really stressful pregnancy with scans every other week but the final straw came in the last few days. My bump had grown massivley over night, I was diagnosed with polyhydraminous, I felt I couldn't tkae anymore stress especially as the dr told me there was a high chance my placenta would rip away from my uterus when my waters broke and the cord would prolapse due to the excess fluid. He also said the baby was so huge I would have great difficulty getting him out. I felt really panicked and asked for an induction but he refused until I had had a GTT which he booked for three days later. Thankfully nothing awful happened.

Can anyone help me with my TTC question? link

sponge oh hugs!!! it sounds like you're more than ready for this wee one to arrive. I hope your consultant is sympathetic!

Rolf I promise I haven't lost any weight or bought a juicer. I am slightly snot covered but did manage to put jeans on. I would react completely the same if DS1 managed to run off ahead of me, it must have been terrifying.

neenz fingers crossed

amber I commented on your TTC thread - I'd say go for it.

I had a job interview/chat thing today with a consultancy. I think it went well although the MD was a bit concerned that my experience wasn't relevant enough for his company. It's just the first step towards finding some sort of flexible work....

Fingers crossed with the job Abdn.

Puree, good advice on getting an induction! I can see why 38 weeks is the minimum they will do it. Did you have a normal vaginal delivery in the end?

Going, thanks! That is so nice of you. I am at work at mo and can't get on FB but will get in touch tonight. Thanks again - and everything will go to another good home when I am finished with them.

Well still no period and another negative test. I have a whole load of cheapo tests from last time I was ttc and were past their use by date last Feb so might as well use them up. Might also be why I am getting negatives, or I might just have got my OV day wrong, but looking at my chart I don't think so. I had a very little touch of brown discharge yesterday (sorry TMI) which I never get. Will just have to wait and see.

Sponge, well, when you add a highly-strung mother into the mix no wonder it didn't go well! Fingers crossed for this time .

Amber, do it every day!!