Dec 08 - 9 months in, 9 months out!

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Hope you don't mind the dodgy thread name but all our babies are 9 months old now or in the next few weeks

daisy - so sorry about the news about your nan. I think it can really vary in how serious it is so really hoping it is not too serious and treatable. Hope you also get some sleep soon.

kiwi - sorry for your rubbish night. Karvol helps us too. Its the being stuffed up that it the problem.

Hello,
strange.... typed a long one then dropped the laptop before I finished and message gone so I will summarize!
Friend was coming over but her ds poorly so cancelled. However I was up early and ds slept until 8am!! so I am rather organised this morning, which is unusal, but refreshing!

PD - Love the photo! So glad there are so many other TV addicts babies out there! Kiwi - ds is is fond of sports too - mainly cycling and also most baby channel stuff -peekaboo, Mr Snail, Pich and Poch, Tock, Tick and Tizzy mouse, and those two that look for the acorn whoever the heck they are!

WG your progress on the sleep front is fantastic - bet you are so pleased with how it's going - it's so nice to get sleep!!
JJ you too!

Trace did you sort out the blood thing? hope it's nothing -I didn't miss your update did I?

Lady - yes you are correct time for a trip! Actually we were just talking about that as I want to either go somewhere before going back to work, or have someone from afar come over! We are going back and forth on what, if anything we should do. Can't really spend much money so leaning towards a very quick US trip or my db coming over for a short one towards / over Xmas. dh starts at the new job officially today although in true cocked up style of that company, he was rostered on until 9am today at the old job and starting at 8am at the new job, so he is going to just start tomorrow!

Veggie, I've been meaning to ask you - are you quite tall? We are thinking of getting the wee ride to sit on the cross bar but Dh wondered if it would be awkward for anyone who is tall having it infront? I still prefer the idea than on the back. dh still wants the trailer too so we may get both.

Hi Katie, Invis, Zoe, Tilly, Effie....

Daisy sorry about your nan

Its cold today.....

Right tired of being not so cheerful and then still having no luck. I'm going to pour a glass of cheerfulness soon and I don't care how early it is At the risk of sounding like I'm obsessing over this, can those of you with more than 1 dc tell me how long it took to c the 2nd? I'm going to try and 'not try' now iykwim since everyone says trying too hard can delay things... That, or cycling is battering the swimmers mil keeps banging on about must be sure to have a child born only after Sept due to school intake - perhaps she has a spell on me Sorry about the depressing 'me' post...

Aw, PMK - it's midday, that's a perfectly respectable time for a spot of cheerfulness given your extenuating circumstances. I think you should focus on booking a nice trip or having someone to stay. And give yourself some nice treats or other beacons of things to look forward to so you are thinking about something else. OR go the whole hog and get one of those ovulator prediction thingies, though I think the unfortunate thing with those is that they can lead to obsession. Bet you will have some good news soon though. Keep on batting!

DaisyD, sorry about your nan....but my dad is in remission from Non-Hodgkins L. as is my friend's mum, so it can be treatable/curable. Sorry also that the hospital are still being crap. Hope you get some good sleep soon....

Will reply to others later but DP has taken DD to his mum's for a day/night so I can get some work done, so I really ought to do that. Oh and ZJ, we are taking the tiddler to France at the weekend and Belgium the following weekend, yes.

Hi all, I'm back again. My survey has had 400 responses in the last couple of days so thanks to all of you who took it.
I'm sorry I've been so remiss about MN, I have just found that trying to fit work in around DD's sleeps and the school run (DS started school last month) doesn't leave me much spare time. However I have been lurking and trying to keep up with you all.
DD has her 9 month check on Friday (even though she is now 10.5 months, they're slow round here!) where they are bound to tell me what I already know, that she is fat and lazy! Very little movement so far, the closest we have got to crawling is sliding backwards on the wood floor and ending up under a chair but she does manage to pull herself upright in her cot and the bath. We now have 7 very large teeth though.
Having been a fantastic eater she is now not very interested any more, and will only take max 10oz of milk a day, she also seems to be a bit bored by solids so I am constantly trying to come up with new recipes that she will like. The talking is comingon apace and she can now say 'bye bye' and wave and spends the day looking around for 'Baba' (big brother). She is a really lovely easy going baby and I'm loving being able to spend a bit more time with her now DS is at school. He is loving school, although we have had a couple of issues with bullying, coming home with a black eye etc, but I have spoken to the teachers who seem to be on top of it.
I am currently on the 2WW to see if number 3 might put in an appearance next year, which is both exciting and terrifying, but decided that it would be better to have them closer together. Also with my MC history, probably better to just get on with it, so I'll keep you updated.
Sorry for no personals, but if I started I would never stop and really better get back to work now.
Will be back soon,love to everyone x

Katie! how exciting for you.... Good luck and I totally agree that it's better to get on with it as you never know how long it can take. I was under some false illusion that since it happened after about 2 weeks first time round that the same would happen again, but not the case even with working out Ov time and all that. katie do keep us posted - i'm so excited for you - you are actively trying then? How long did the 1st and 2nd take?

Thanks Lady I have had 1 x glass of cheerfulness and feel 100% better about things.... it aint called cheerfulness for nothin! We must meet up for a midday spot at some point soon!!! can do Reading no probs and Mrpmk and bilpmk can join after respective work therefore mrpmk can drive home Could MrLady possibly join? Do you know anywhere suitable not too far from RBH? I'm trying to think - but it's been awhile....
Oh and I don't have the Ov computer thingy but I have used the test strips for a couple of months and noted a very irregular pattern of Ov'ing, so I guess my system isn't complately settled however this month was kind of textbook so I guess I had my hopes up.... Oh well, I promise not to worry about it as I know this can make things worse....

PMK, I seem to get pregnant really easily, it's just holding on to them that's the problem. DS only took a couple of weeks, with no idea about OV'ing or anything like that, DD took a year and a half, but I had 2 MC's in between that. Each time I'd got pregnant within a couple of months. I did try out those OV sticks and charted my temperature and stuff, but I found it got me too worked up and fanatical about when to have sex, which was rather off putting for DH. I seem to OV quite late in the month, but then it can vary alot. With one of the MC's they worked out that I must have ovulated twice that month which was a bit wierd. I say relax and let it happen if you can

I will try - yes I agree about all the charting and things - it can get a bit clinical! I was found to have a very short luteal phase and apparently if it is less than 10 days-ish it is very hard to obtain implantation. Mine was on average 7-8 days for the first couple of months - also with very late OV. This month has been the first that it has settled down since stopping BF - infact it was textbook - hence getting my hopes up. I agree the charting and OV testing can get a bit stressful, however on the flip side it has also helped me spot the LP being way too short and with taking B6 it has totally straightened that out... I am going to vow not to get too hung up on it though - after all I have plenty of time, and I have a delightful and perfect ds

Oh and sorry to hijack the thread with this boring ttc talk for everyone!!

PMK, DP is at Reading Crown Court quite a lot (once a week, sometimes much more) so I am sure something can be arranged. We can have a nice time without them and they can join us later. I assure you DP will be delighted to join in and furthermore will know more or less every decent drinking establishment within about a 70 mile radius of Reading so I am sure he will come up with somewhere decent nearish RBH.

Oh and Katie, not sure what 2WW is but good luck, smashing to hear from you again and pop in when you can.

Sounds good Lady
Oh and 2WW = 2 week wait after ovulation / possible conception I'm assuming - Katie? then either +ive test or the usual monthly

pmk - to answer your question, I got pregnant pretty quickly both times (within a couple of months of trying) but it did take quite a long time for my system to settle down - took till about 9 months to start AF again after DD and still not regular yet this time even though DS is almost 10 months old. I suspect the charting etc doesn't help much - my sis is TTC at the moment and my feeling is it just creates an unhelpful mindset. Also read somewhere (don't know if its right) that by the time a kit shows you ovulating, you may have missed a good part of your window of opportunity anyway, so may be not that helpful even from a practical point of view.

katie - all this talk of no.3 is making me a bit wistful for one. Would love to have a third (am one of three myself) but it just doesn't feel like the right thing to do practically, what with messed up job situation etc. Maybe one day.

Hi Invis!
yes that's true the Ov test just tells you right before you are about to Ov, however the most fertile is a few days before - I just tried it to make sure I atually was ovulating really.... I was and am, however at all different times of the month! I can't wait to hear Katies outcome....
Well I've done pretty much nothing today. A friend was suppose to visit but her ds isn't too well, and that, along with the awful weather and the fact she'd be on public transport was all adding up to a bad idea. So I've been twiddling my thumbs today... oh ds awake now so I can play with him

Hello dear ladies

Sorry to have been AWOL for so long. I must say having a job (albeit only 1 day a week), 3 kids under 5, a husband who is never here and an ageing issue is a bit of a bar to regular posting. I do try and read every few days and think of you all often.

Saisy, I am very sorry to hear about your nan. I too know of people who have made complete recoveries from NHL so am hoping that you get some good news soon.

PMK, I sympathise wholeheartedly on the TTC front. It took me about 3 months to get pg with DD2 and, er, about 7 bottles of wine to get pg with DS. I think it is hard not to let yourself be consumed by it (I certainly was was DD2) but try to trust your body can do it as it's done it before.

Am glad things are better on the sleep front WG. Sorry for your job worries, Invis, I really hope something good turns up soon. Veggie, well done to Mr Veggie on his new job. How very exciting to be off to the Netherlands. Good for the cycling if rather flat for someone as superfit as you.

I hope all are well. I'll try to be back to post more soon. Love to you all.

Hi.

Feeling awful here. I got sent home from work today as I feel really sick. I am actually a bit pissed off as everytime I leg it to the toilet I start to feel better.

Daisy Sorry to hear about your Nan. Hope she makes a quick recovery.

Katie and PMK Hope you both get positive test results soon.

Hope you are all well.

Oh sybil not sure exactly what you mean by an ageing issue but I hope I didn't upset you with my silly remarks about turning 40. Apologies if I was being insensitive.

daisy sorry to hear about your grandma. How is she taking the news?

pmk bummer that it's another month to wait for you - still very much early days mind, although I know it will probably feel like you've been trying for ages. It took about 4 or 5 months with DS then about 2 or 3 with DD. Seemed much longer at the time though. Did the ovulation stick thing both times and with DD I even bought a microscope and started charting temperatures. Although it does make it clinical, for me it made it less stressful as it took the main variable away (i.e. the timing) and meant I didn't have to worry about whether I'd missed ethe window of opportunity each month. Plus it made me feel like I was doing something (apart from the obvious).

LadyT fantastic news about the house.

katie "my mum" has done your survey . Fingers crossed for your 2WW. I will be a little envious of no 3 if you are successful. I think I'd like another (although not as much as I expected to at this point) but DP is not so keen. Sorry to hear about the bullying at school - it mush have been awful for you (not to mention DS).

Kiwi tis normal. DD is the same and so was DS, generally for no obvious reason. Unless it goes on for ages or she seems unwell or loses a lot of weight then the best thing can do is try not to stress and have faith as long as she has unlimited food & drink available she will take what she needs and make up any shortfall later. Having said that, DD was refusing most foods for a few days last week but when I offered here prunes she couldn't get enough. Cue massive poo and appetite back to normal. Worth a try? If it is constipation then apples, pears, oranges and lots of water are also good.

kayz hope you're feeling better soon. Loved Deddie - too cute!

Effie any news on SIL's baby?

Speaking of new arrival forgot to mention that we have a new nephew born a couple of weeks ago to DP's brother. Which reminds me, spot your sister must be due some time soon I think. How is she getting on?

Oh and DD has another new word to add to her vast repertoire. She was playing with a conker last night so I told her what it was called. She beamed from ear to ear and immediately repeated back ... cacky!

PD - I was joking darling . I am completely cool about being 40 and enjoying it so far. THough my cleaner handed in her notice today which was a bit upsetting. Hey ho. When's your great day?

Am very impressed by all the talking babies. Nothing identifiable as a word here, though he has a nice line in clapping and waving. He also beams for Britain at everyone so I am pleased.

Right DC's in bed. Gave DS supper tonight, lets hope that might improve his sleep...certainly won't make it any worse!

kayz sorry your poorly, hope you feel better soon.

pmk sorry about having to wait another month...oh and midday is NEVER to early for cheerfulness. In fact I find it often tastes better at that time!

My mum has just rung and the hospital rang my nan earlier they can fit her in tomorrow afternoon for her MRI! She is a remarkable woman and is taking the news really well. BUt she has great faith which at times like this is a huge support. She also has a great sense of humour over the whole thing - equally important. I think her main concern is how sick she will get from the chemo. but we will cross that bridge when we come to it.

daisy your nan sounds very strong. I will add my prayers to the no doubt huge numbers going up for her...
kiwi your night sounded terrible. Hope you get a better one tonight.
P is still shocking at night. Having decided to not feed her overnight again last night, I ended up giving her boob by 10pm! She woke at 9pm and SCREAMED and just wouldn't settle. We were going in every 10 mins but she was not calming down at all, so I fed her, and actually she then took about 20mins after that. Then she slept a couple of hours then did the same again, and again at 3am. I'm at a loss with what to do. Going for no boob and no lifting tonight - just patting in the cot, but it's hard to pat because when she's screaming she's not lying down .
pmk before having dd1 I had no periods, so was pretty sure it would take ages if it happened at all, and it actually took 5 months - obviously with no idea about timing. Then having her must have kick started my system and I had periods every 1-3 months after that, and it took a year to conceive dd2.
kayz could your nausea be pregnancy? Hope you're feeling better soon.
right, sorry for lack of many personals again - i'm a bit rubbish at this at the moment, I'm just so pooped by this time of day that I just crash out!
night night.

Evening all, just a quick one as we've got the outlaws arriving tomorrow for a long weekend so busy trying to make the house presentable...

daisy am keeping your gps in my prayers

hugs to everyone with rough nights, trace sending you lots of determination for tonight. DD is finally sleeping better at night and settling without too much yelling, but has decided daytime napping is evil, and that she doesn't want to be picked up or put down, must be after some kind of hovering 2" above ground thing - as soon as her feet touch down she yells. Oh well, swings and roundabouts!

very impressed with the chattering babies (cack ) as dd doesn't say anything recognisable, not even dada yet. V mobile (up and down the stairs at a rate of knots) but no sign of any talking yet.

Gah, so much to do to make the ILs think we live in a vaguely decent state and not a hovel - am lurking and trying to keep up, just never managing to actually post

Hey there I've been lurking tonight whilst settling a very sore tooth DS2 and watching a show on Iran. I'm really sleepy so thought I should post before I fall asleep. DS2 was up quite a lot with pain last night so I should really go to bed while the goings good.

But just wanted to say Daisy I'm thinking of your nan but I'm a bit worried about you, your getting so little sleep and have the sadness of your GPs health are you ok?

I can't remember who spoke of the eating thing but I will agree with what others have said go with it. DS2 is also cutting back on eating and getting a bit choosier, it could be his teeth or it just could be a stage. However as he is no.2 I know it all pans out in the end. Already in his short solid taking life he has eaten more and tried more foods than DS1. While DS1's picky eating was (& still is) a pain it has taught me that they will still grow and take in what they need.

PMK I'm only 168cm so not overly tall, I found I had to hunch over DS1 in the wee ride a bit and it often was uncomfortable on longer rides so I got a slightly longer stem on my handlebars. The wee ride has it's own cross bar that sits a little over your own crossbar. We have every child bike thing available on the Market. We have a trailer, a wee ride for up to 2.5 years, a panier child seat system for up to 10 yr olds, a trailgator so we can attach DS1's bike to ours, and of course DS1's groovy giant kids bike. I even have a basket now to carry the boys gear.

Kayz hope you feel better soon.

I'm also a little jealous of the talk of TTC but the more I think of it the more I think I'm happy with my 2 boys only. I think I'd like to give birth one more time but I don't think I want to be pregnant again. I was so tired last time I really felt I missed so much of DS1 I feel like he was 2.5 then suddenly he is 4 I feel like I missed so much of his energy because I didn't have any. However I really would like to do the birth bit once more. I feel like after 2 i've finally got quite confident at it and think I could do it quite well next time oh well.

Speaking of birth I'm a little sad to be leaving the lovely ligule house where the gorgeous DS2 was born I keep looking at the spot where he appeared (not literally the spot, the place in the loungeroom). However I made sure my fav carpet that I got from Iran was under me when I had him so that will always be with us.

Oh dear there are noises upstairs better go

Lovely girls

Excusez-moi, just have to rant.

I left the house at 5.45 as we were out of coffee. Looked into buses, calculated I could get bus into tiny town 4 miles away, have a 45 minute wait to get said coffee and then a drink in the pub before last bus into my village at 1845.

But there was some weirdo road closure and I ended up being whooshed to Nothingville village miles from anywhere. Found signs to town I wanted, started to follow footpath (through farms - got chased by cows who started to run at me, across water, THROUGH water, over barbed wire fences - you name it). Finally reached town and bought coffee. Went to pub and called every taxi in my phone as all buses finished. No go. Used every number available from barmaid. Drivers all busy or not able to come out. Spoke to DP (100 miles away at his mother's) who offered to ring the bloke downstairs who is his pal, and who I can't stand, to come and get me. Politely declined. Ended up walking/running the 4 miles home. I am wet, muddy, knackered, scratched and soaked. How did it end up like this? How did I end up climbing a tree to get away from cows (perhaps they were bulls? I didn't have the chance to check). I used to think getting a Night Bus in London was deserving of a Duke of Edinburgh's Award and I'd have killed for a Night Bus tonight. I'd have killed for a TORCH. Jeepers. I am a nincompoop and a townie. The whole evening has been what your DD would call cacky, PD, and rightly

Trace, I do hope you have a better night, lovey, I really really do. And Daisy, I'm glad your nan can get an earlier scan.

Night kids. Sorry for me-me-me!

Oh Lady - that was priceless! Sorry! but I did do a considerably loud laugh out loud! So glad you got home eventually, but Good God!! I am particularly impressed there was a pub stop involved! Oh dear... Tomorrow a new day...

Veggie, hmm I think we will have to go actually view these wee ride things and trailers etc and see what we think - sounds like you are the pro at all such equipment! I am 175cm so I'd best check them out...
awww have another cute little one!! I had to raise an eyebrow (in complete admiration of course) at your desire to experience childbirth again, but not pregnancy! Got to say i didn't enjoy pregnancy, but the natural childbirth part strikes me as worse!! Gotta give you credit.
When are you in London? I hope I can be around for a coffee of or a cheerful spot if my situation at the time allows it

Trace - wow - i didn't know that was possible if you were not having any period at all - good for you!

Thank all for sharing the stories of how long it took etc... I do feel better. it was just hard when it happened so fast the first time so you start to think what's going on here!
Poison, yes I find it less stressful testing too, since the window of opportunity can be planned etc...plus it is comforting to know that I am actually Ov-ing, and if it's consistant each month etc. I will keep on trucking along for the next couple of months with the sticks so I can note what is happening on what days as well.

Anyway, bed for me....
lady I still have this vision of you up a very big tree, in very nice heels, in a very remote field!

Oh and thanks kayz - hope you feel better soon..... I was wondering about the possible pregnancy thing too???