June 2005 babies

[uwila]

Hi everyone. Thought it was time we have a post-natal thread.

Megi,
Sorry but I only just read your post. Yes, I'm with you on the feeling sad about this being my last. And this is down right weird because nobody could be happier to be done with pregnancy than I was. I used to countdown the final months, weeks, days of the pregnancy. And now I look at little Alex and think oh he's so cute maybe I could have just one more... and then the rational part of brain gets out the big stick and beats on the sappy sentimental part that wrote the first half of this paragraph.

To be honest, I doubt I'll decide to have another (and I also doubt DH would want another).

Jeez, tell me it's just post natal hormones and I'm not really this big of a sap.

Morning ladies,
Glad all OK Bubb. Good news. Off to see pic later and put one of mine on. Have to nip out and get dd's passport photos done this am though. Got the birth certificate this morning so all on track-ish.
Well I had a disturbed night up to feed every 1-2 hours as dd was only taking little snacky feeds and I was too tired to keep her awake to have a longer feed. Don't mind at the mo though because it is still such a wonderful treat to see her lying there in the crib next to me. .
Her stump is off already too (day 4) so we are going into cloth later today. The nappies were great for avoiding the stump when I tried them on but the wraps were just in the wrong place and I was worried about them catching the clip. M/w happy we are doing well.
I have had a few sad moments wondering whether this will be my last baby too. Straight after I was just glad it was all over, the pregnancy and the labour etc, but now of course it is so worth everything. Put it this way, I won't be giving my maternity clothes away for a little while yet. It is impossible to decide that now though with all these hormones racing around.
Have any other second timers found the recovery quicker? or that their boobs aren't leaking when they did before?
Have to go now.

morning all,

finally got a chance to jump on here-dh thinks im in the bath!!
oscar is now waking up for his feeds rather than being woken up so thats a really good sign.how often are most of you feeding?-he's feeding every 3-4 hours and can't seem to get enough.
coop-wow,4 days and the stump is off.oscar's came off this morning(8 days)which im really pleased about as i can now put little trousers on him without worrying about it catching.
we're off for a long walk in the forest today which should be fun as we havent used the pram yet.

on the subject of more babies...i said to dh only yesterday that i cant wait to have another.that might all change next week though when he goes back to work and it's just the 2 of us.

hope everyone has a great day and enjoys the sunshine.xx

Bub, so glad Oscar is doing better! And hats off to you for enjoying so much your first! I don't remember the first 2 months of my DD so stressed I was! You and all the other first timers are doing way better than I did!

I have to say though, that although DS is being so easy and so wonderful, the factory is definetely closed!!! I am actually going to put my self in the list for being fixed!

About northeners mtg? How does the 11th sound?

Bubbaloo - glad oscar is doing better

Honestly Uwila my poor little guy is getting squirted in the eye the milk is so eager .... I think I'm lucky though so many people have problems with milk production. After reading up on bottle feeding I have realised I am far too lazy for that.

My camera broke down with all my newborn baby photo's on it I am so upset I hope they will be able to save them or I have lost the first week of photo's I might be able to scav a few from my sister and friend but I had really cool ones on there. fingers crossed... Though I won't hold my breath. Cn't wait till my wound feels better as I'll take Osiris to the zoo.

Hope everyone is ok

Afternoon ladies, hope all are well.

We are having a hell of a time with breastfeeding here, I am absolutely gutted. Toby seemed to latch really well in the hospital but after the first two days, started refusing the breast. The midwives thought it was probably the hot weather (and also my milk still hadn't come in). We held out for 36 hours in all (giving him boiled water as he was parched) before my Mum caved in and said she thought we would have to start him on some formula.

I was devastated of course as I desperately want to breastfeed. I am trying to express as much as I can but it's hard going as milk production is still low, although getting better. The midwives have been fantastic and have come every day. So far the best success we've had has been with a nipple shield, using a syringe of EBM to tempt him to suck, but he will still only do it for a relatively short time before he gets fed up with it. I think if only my milk would come out faster he would be fine.

Bubba, so pleased to hear Oscar is well - and that everyone else is enjoying their Junie babies!

Aw Trib, sorry to hear that BF not going so well. I suppose MW/HV just advising to top up with formula? I don't really have any experience of what you are going through but there must be someone on MN/NCT breastfeeding helpline with some top tips for you? Hope it gets better for you soon.

My DD went to bed at 7.oopm last night. She then had a bottle of expressed milk care of daddy at midnigh. She then woke up twice with evil trumps (which clearly scared her) - I tried to feed her at about 4.30 thinking she must be starving - which she wasn't and she only sucked lethargically for 2- 3 mins and fell asleep again - not waking up til ten to seven this morning! I am almost calling this the first sleep through the night - if only I coukld sort out her wind problem then there is a chance she might sleep through properly quite soon! hurray!!! DD1 slept through from last 11pm feed to 7am from 7 weeks old so I will be WELL pleased if this one does the same.

Feeling very chipper today!!

Hi everyone

Birth announcement from Charleypops on the due in June thread. Sorry, can't do links, but I think you might remember where to find us

Afternoon all.
Great news about Charleypops - can't post on the due in June thread so will have to waitt until she joins us here to do the congrats bit.
Trib - so sorry to hear about the bfing - I think hot weather makes the babies so lethargic, they can't be bothered with too much exertion. Well done for hanging on in there though - hope it comes good for you.
Pink - hope your pics haven't disappeared
Uwila/Coop - I know what you mean about the last baby thing. Even on the delivery table I was thinking ' yep, I could have another one'. Don't think I will though - too old and knackered (don't know why I added a smile - it's true and it's nothing to laugh at....)
Nogger - I don't want to hear any talk of babies sleeping through the night. I think I'm going to face a few weeks of colic and I'm really not looking forward to it. I posted a thread on the subject of windy babies and have now gone out and collected all the remedies mentioned - in the hope that I can sort out ds' windiness - it really unsettles him and our evenings are currently awful. Fingers crossed something works for my little darling.
We registered him today - really lovely duty to perform.
Hope things are going well with everyone x

Trib - well done for giving the bfing a go - and in this heat too. Poor you.
If it's any consolation it might still work. After coming out of hospital, where ds was getting formula and ebm, we had a good couple of weeks of him screaming and scratching and hitting me and refusing the breast. At its worst it was really really demoralising. I hated giving formula, was knackered from the expressing and trying to get him latched on etc etc. My MW kept coming round and saying I needed to relax a bit for it to work (cue me thinking 'easy for you to say...') and she reckoned I'd always have to mixed feed. Anyway, at some point I realised how seriously down I was getting and it was stopping me enjoying my beautiful boy. At that point I did somehow manage, not to relax as such, but to be a bit more philosophical about it. We kept plodding on - I tried him at the breast at every feed, expressed, gave formula. Gradually he went on the breast more and for longer until one day I noticed he had taken the breast at every feed! Now he's exclusively breastfed and so far all seems to be well. So it can be done! And this is a baby who was having bottles from 3 days! I really do know how you feel - it's awful - I had also been really really set on bf and still am (am still terrified that it's going to suddenly go all wrong again!), and felt so sh1te for giving formula, which is irrational really - formula stopped ds losing still more weight and helped him over his jaundice, so I should be grateful to it!
You can get something called a 'supplemental nursing system' from medela. This is a bag you put formula or ebm in and attach to yourself, and put baby at the breast and it gets milk through a little tube from the bag but 'thinks' it is sucking at the breast. I didn't try it, but it might be something for you to try?

trib-sorry to hear about the bf not going too good.im personally not bf oscar but it is still early days and bero says,toby might hopefully still latch on.im sure this weather cant be helping things.

pink-what a shame about your photo's.have you managed to save any?
my camera is also a bit iffy at the mo,and ive lost piccies from there in the past so i know how frustrating it is.

we took oscar to the park for the first time today.it seemed so strange pushing a pram.we didnt stay out too long as it was far too hot to be walking about,but when we got back to the car it took us ages to collapse it,to get it into the car!!

Thanks to all - Berolina, you've definitely been on my mind in the last few days, given our hassles have been quite similar!

Fortunately I am managing to express more now, so Toby's had a feed purely of EBM, which is some progress. I'm off to get an electric breast pump tomorrow in the hopes of speeding up production (not to mention avoiding RSI in my hands from all this manual pumping!).

Bero, will also have a think about the supplemental nursing system, it would definitely help him to be able to get milk out of the breast more easily.

Bubb, I know what you mean about going out with the pram! I ventured to the shops with my Mum this morning, had to get her to do all the doors for me as I can't work out how you open a door whilst dealing with a pram!

hi Trib, hope all going well for you now, you can prob work out who this is (KK, AMS) masquerading as tessasmum. good thing about 3-wheel prams is it's easier to push doors open with them - shame you didn't buy one ;)

Not much going on here today. I'm still not really feeling 100% but its still early days. Still sitting watching Wimbledon really.
Hope everyone is alright

Afternoon all, and hello to Tessasmum! You did surprise me when you said "oh yes, I've been reading about your bf problems on Mumsnet", small world

Took the lovely four-wheel pram out to Mothercare today, and was able to buy a few things because the chassis didn't take up the entire boot, hurrah for four wheels!

Still no joy with bf. I am expressing more, so he should get two complete feeds of EBM today at least. The midwife came round this morning to torture him for an hour, by the end I really was thinking "is it not obvious he's never going to latch on when he's this upset?" but finally she gave up as well And to add insult to injury, I thought I had better phone the MIL to update her as we had asked her not to come round at the weekend when things were at their most stressful. Her helpful response was "surely it's instinctive, I can't see why you would have any problems with it". Gee thanks. This from a woman who attributes dh's health problems to her failure to breastfeed him.

Trib - hang in there girl, you're doing great! One thing my MW did say to me which was really helpful was that every little bit of breastmilk ds was getting was doing him good. So keep telling yourself that! at MIL's comment - she sounds like she's rather hung up about bf.
One thing I was told by a bf counsellor was - if possible - not to mix EBM and formula at the same feed, because the antibodies etc. in breastmilk 'work' better, as it were, if there's nothing else being digested at any one time. (Sorry if you know this already).
Just wanted to give an update on our weekend with the PIL. It was actually quite nice and I didn't really get any 'comments', which is a good thing. MIL was completely besotted by ds and it was quite sweet to watch - although I did find it rather annoying to be stared at while bf, I didn't have the heart to tell her to look somewhere else... I disappeared into the bedroom as much as I could, but due to various phases of non-stop feeding (bl**dy heat) I would have had to spend most of the weekend in there...

rib -
medela supplemental feeding system

Trib not rib!!!

Hi Trib- Sorry to hear about all the trouble Toby is giving you! DD was the same. I think she and I cried for the first two months until we got it to work! The only person I let in my room was the bf Counsellor. She was lovely and keep telling me some babies just take extra time to get it, and that it wasn't my fault! I just wanted to believe her, but now I know is true. DS is a pro and just find the breast on his own... Kudos for you being so patient with him!!!
BTW I did something like Berolina suggested with my DD and it was helpful. We just had a syringe with a long tube taped to my boobs so the end of the tube matched the nipple, IYSWIM.... When she tried the nipple, DH squeezed the syringe, so she could get an easy reward from trying the boob.
All good wishes for you!

Trib, sorry to hear you are having bf problems. I do hope it sorts itself out for you.

Lua, 11th July is fine with me.

Nogger, I?m v. of your good nights. I?m getting up every 1 ½ - 3 hours in the night to feed Isaac.

Everythings going okay here. I?m having a mad, hormonal day today and crying at regular intervals over absolutely nothing. I know its hormones and not PND, but still?. Not helped by Isaac throwing up his entire feed earlier today. Does anyone know if I should be worried about this? I?m sure I read somewhere that you should only worry if they throw up two consecutive feeds. Apart from that, my little angel is wonderful. I think I?m upset today as DH is going back to work tomorrow and I?m panicking about doing all this on my own. I?m sure I?ll be fine, but someone ought to tell my raging hormones that .

Sorry for the ?me? thread. Hope you are all fine and well.

JonahB - sorry to hear you're having a hormonal day but it's absolutely par for the course - especially if your dh is going back to work tomorrow. I was terrible when mine went back the first time around, I used to ring him up and beg him to come home - poor man - so feeling a bit tearful about it is in my opinion being very brave.
With the feed throwing up I really wouldn't worry about it unless it starts to become a habit with Issac. I think at the beginning they're not really sure what they're up to - and if they're got a big bubble of wind in there somewhere they bring up the feed too occasionally. Take care and hope you feel better soon

jonah-know exactly what you mean about coping on your own.my dh isnt going back to work til monday and already im in a panic,wondering whether i'll cope.he's been so good and even changed all the pooey nappies so it'll certainly be interesting when its just me and oscar.
i also found the first few days i was very weepy and crying at anything and everything.i think it was a combination of hormones and the fact that i was still walking about like an old lady,felt very uncomforatble and basically wasnt feeling myself.im sure you'll feel fine in a couple of days-having a baby is a shock to the system so your'e bound to feel a bit out of sorts.with me it lasted about 4 days and now im feeling so much better.

I've been reading this thread loads recently but I am rubbish at one handed typing (it takes me so long I forget what I'm talking about) so haven't had chance to post.

Jonah, I'm still weepy now and DS2 is over 3 weeks old! Yesterday I cried at the news about Richard Whitely (TWICE!!!) and even worse, at the weekend I cried when I saw everyone having a good time at Glastonbury . Hope everything goes ok tomorrow when DH goes back to work - I'm sure you will be fine but it does feel scary (with DS1 I offered to go back to work after 2 weeks so DH could stay at home and look after the baby instead).

Trib, you are doing brilliantly to perservere with breastfeeding and expressing. I really hope things start to improve soon. How's your DH coping at the moment?

Bubb, fantastic news about Oscar, so pleased he's getting better.

Welshie, I've been reading your windy thread - how was your DS in the evenings? Was he crying a lot? I'm not sure whether DS2 is suffering from wind/colic, but he's definitely unsettled and we find it difficult to put him down. Saying that though he fell asleep on me tonight and is still out like a light now.

Lua, 11th is fine by me too.

Pink, hope the pictures are ok - any news?

Spoke too soon, he's awake again, will have to go!

Latest news on Charley and Arlo; if all contues to go well they should be home by Sunday

morning all,
lippy-thats great news about charlie and arlo.
had a really bad night last night with oscar not sleeping.its been so frustrating as we checked everything and he was still crying.he was even awake most of yesterday and just wouldnt settle.
i told the midwife this morning and now i know the answer.
we were giving him just 80mls at each feed and the midwife said he should be having 140mls!! just given him the extra and he's asleep-woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

got my very first birthday card today that said happy birthday mummy-still doesnt seem real.

hope everyone is well.xx