June 2005 babies

[uwila]

Hi everyone. Thought it was time we have a post-natal thread.

I made it to the other side! Only 9 days late

Have posted details on a new thread.

Am bloody exhausted already, need to go and relax while both dd's are asleep.

see you all soon!

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Hello ladies

Well, I made it to the other side despite thinking I would be pregnant for ever... Sorry I've not been online for a while, dh's laptop packed in while I was in hospital so he appropriated mine and this is the first time I've had access to it since I got home what a nightmare.

Hope you are all well, if sleep deprived. The sleep thing is a shocker, I'd forgotten, and it's going to get a lot worse for us before it gets better because dd is still in that sleepy phase where you get lulled into the false belief that it will be not too bad... We are doing fine, dd is feeding constantly and is nearly back to her birthweight, I'm healing OK and not half as ropey as I was last time. DS is being beautiful with dd, but he's not particularly pleased with me, still better that than taking it out on her.

Well, that's that ten minutes of peace shattered, dd is awake and ds is shouting 'I'll fetch her' so I'd better go and put a stop to that... see you all soon.

Ha ha ha Mrs F - that sounds remarkably like our household too!

Glad you and Lippy have made it to the other side, he he he

Well have been trying the dentinox on dd and day one = no screaming 'marvellous, cure found'...day two 3 hours screaming, grrrr...day three screaming on and off for an hour, but took 2 further hours to settle to sleep...unsure now if cure found or not hey ho will give it one more day and then may have to switch formula to Omneo Comfort...anyone used this before?? HV suggested it but seems a pain as instructions seem to say you can't make up feeds in advance, and have to use hot water to mix it so dd will be screaming before every feed while we wait for it to cool down, hmmmmn therefore swallowing air and causing possible colic ?!?! Lynny - how have you found the dentinox after your first good night of trying it??

Sleep deprivation - don't go there either...after rocking dd to sleep (I know I know shouldn't do it!) and lying down with her pretending to be sleep so she would close her eyes too the next thing I remember is dh waking me up 3 hours later as he came to bed! And Mrs W - with you on the grumpy ds...and mine's so sensitive, after shouting at him to get back to his own room the night before when he came in at 3am after dd woke him, he then stood awake outside my bedroom door waiting for us to say to come in when he was yet again awoken last night by dd's crying - now feel so so guilty and like the worst mummy in history! Even broke down in tears (first baby tears this time round) in the middle of Boots this morning when discussing colic remedies with the pharmacist, goodness only knows what he thought!

Just so glad to read that you're all suffering too - makes me feel normal - thanks girls!

Morning all!
pheww... what a horrible night! Last night was dS's first 3 hours screeming bout!
Tea, I think it is just impossible to find out the cause! Because this is the first time DS had it, and this coincided with getting his tongue "released" (very minor surgery procedure for tonhue-tie), I thought he is in pain. Gave him paracetomol after the 1st hour of continuous cry. He continued for another hour... So decided I was killing him by giving paracetomol and maybe was air due to spending 4 hours in the car... So here comes infacol (which is the same thing active ingredient as dentinox). Another hour of crying. By this time I was ready to cry myself. The next thing I know we are both asleep... So,,, was it pain? air? Did any remedy worked, or is always 3 hours and then exhauustion??? I think the best solution is have beer handy for another month!

Morning everyone

Just checking in really, dd2 ready for another feed.

Sory tp hear about screaming fits and sleepless nights. We're mainly experienceing the latter here, Millie's ok if she's on the boob at night, otherwise, forget it.

She's screaming now, best be off! xxx

HI!!!

My first post on the post-natal thread! WayHaayyy!! Only a short one because I'm a Very Busy Mum I'll read through the thread later.

Anyone know what those fab German bottle teats are called? A nurse in SCBU mentioned I should try to find some but she couldn't remember the name.

Everything put in perspective by the bombs today. DH works v near site of bus bomb - it exploded as he went through the door to work. It's our main route to town- that and the tube. Feel a bit shakey to be honest.

oh, Welshie what a scare! I am so glad to hear your DH is OK.
My prayers are with all of you southeners. Hope all of yours are safe!

Oh Welshie, how horrible. Has he been evacuated? Hope he gets home ok. Thank goodness he's alright.

i couldn't quite believe the news, was meerily watching homes under the hammer and on it came.

Charley i think the bottles you might mean are haberman feeders, i have one waiting to be used. it composes a bottle bit, then a chamber then the teat, it doesn't let milk through unless sucked and also doesn't let air through, recommended by the baby whisperer

Thinking of you Welshie - what a horrible scare. Keep thinking about all the people who's DH's will not be going home tonight

Hi Lippy, Charley and Mrs F ? glad you could join us!!

Tea, I?m in complete agreement with you. It?s nice to know that I?m not the only one suffering sleep deprivation and crying newborns who refuse to settle, and that this is totally normal . Lua, sorry you had a bad night of it last night. I had the full 3 hour treatment yesterday evening. There seems to be some sort of trade off in this house ? after a hellish evening, we had a great night where I only had to get up once in the night. Actually, I was a bit annoyed with DH last night. He was rehearsing with his mates (in a band). He popped up at 10:30pm to see how we were getting on. I wasn?t doing too well as Isaac had been grouchy for about 3 hours by that point and the stress was beginning to show. DH said he?d pop up again in a bit to see how we were doing and that?s the last I saw of him! He (rather naively in my opinion, how long have we been married) assumed that when I said with a heavy sigh, ?No dear, you carry on and entertain your friends?, that I actually meant it. However, to be fair to him, he did get up with him at about 6am to give me a hand, so I can't be too mad at him .

Can I second Lua and wish all of you southerners the best wishes from up North. I sincerely hope that none of your nearest and dearest were affected this morning.

Glad your dh is OK Welshie. Have had a similar kind of day - dh in London too for the day, he got to Paddington just as they were closing the tube so presumably just after Edgware Rd happened, got kicked off a bus and ended up walking to Kentish Town. Of course no mobile coverage so I had to wait till he got to a landline to hear from him. He's just made it back to Paddington and is waiting to get on a train home. I have been near hysterical all day, not helped by it being the first day I've been on my own since dd arrived. But, he's safe and on his way home (and I am never letting him out of the house again).

Other than that, first day alone was fine - dd has been a star baby and was much admired at ds' nursery when I walked up there. DS still playing up a bit but not too bad, think it's actually easier with him now it's just me, although he's not happy that the endless stream of new Lego has dried up.

Hope all babies are well.

MrsF and Welshie, so sorry you've had such a worrying and upsetting day. It is really awful viewing it from up north, not knowing anyone involved, so for you two it must have been a million times worse. Uwila, hope you are ok.x

Hope all is ok at Camp Welshie this evening. Heard my brother is ok was a bit worried when I heard the news.

Well Osiris is offcially pissed off with the moses basket. He constantly wants to be in bed with me. As I am tired and his feeding is becoming more demanding because of his starting on medication, I usually relent as I can't be bothered to try and settle him for ages just for him to wake me up complaining. He sleeps straight away in bed with me and grips my hand which is really sweet when I am not exhausted and wanting the bed to myself after 57 minutes of sporadic feeding that stars at 2am and doesn't finish until the morning.

I haven't been catching up on sleep in the mornings because I have had to be in the childrens hospital for his scans.

Also the work man turn up at half past 8 the other morning saying he wanted to paint this week He seemed rather put out when I said he couldn't because I had a newborn and didn't want my home turned upside down with less than a days notice. The fucking bastards. They think they can jerk me around and make out I am putting them out when I have been arguing with them for months. Well I have negotiated that they will come on the 19th after I have had my hospital appointment for that week and I will go to stay at my parents house while they are away on holiday.

I have turned a corner with the c-section wound and it isn't hurting so much. I went out for a long walk today and find I don't really need much pain medication.

It was horrible at the hospital yesterday. They hand to put a line in to add the dye for the scan. The veins they tried seemed to collapse as they were so fragile. I had to watch Osiris have 3 attempts before they could get it right and I have never seen him so distressed. It was horrible they have to hold the baby down so they don't move and he didn't understand at all. He was looking at me like a traitor

He's on the medication now though which isn't making him that awake like I feared, but it is makign him far more hungry as his metabolism is reacting. this is difficult as he is starving every hour now - but really starving. So I was up all last night with him as he needs to eat so much. The poor little guy must have a whippet fast metabolism - the reason why he was so thin at birth and is still a skinny little chap. I'm told he was borrowing thyroxine from me during the pregnancy to top his own up.

Anyway I have to go I have a starving baby to reckon with.

Hope everyone is ok. Glad to see you back online Charley

Thanks for all the good wishes all - it has been a pretty shakey day, waiting to hear from everyone as to their whereabouts. Lots of family and friends in central London and DH nearest to it all and I felt really odd until he walked in the door. I can't believe how close he was to it all, can't believe how someone could let a bomb off on a bus which is packed to the gills with people already evacuated from tube stations?????????? All of it is just beyond belief, there will be more and more terrible stories emerging over the next few days.
Mrs F - so glad your dh is ok too - I bet your heart was in the pit of your stomach too.
Lippy haven't even had a chance to send you huge congrats on the arrival of Millie - am so pleased for you
Charley welcome a board too x
Pink - really sorry to hear about you and Osiris - it's heart breaking to watch medical procedures being carried out on their poor little bodies I'm thinking of you having to cope with all the extra demands on you - and hoping you're eating properly (apologies for sounding like your mum)
In and amongst today's happenings both ds and I had our 6 week checks (can't believe that) We both passed with flying colours I have a 'beautiful' scar and very good stomach muscles (hard to believe) and ds is putting on loads of weight and doing all he should be doing. Good news in the middle of it all.
Wishing you all sleep x

Glad your 6 week check went so well Welshie Yup I'm doing alright apart from the lack of sleep due to Osiris's new feeding patterns. Hope everyone else is ok

sorry to hear of the horrible day everyone's had.i was really shocked when i turned on sky news this morning-what an awful thing to wake up to.dh is even saying he doesnt want me going back to work in london-i find it all really scary and very upsetting.

pink-sorry to hear about osiris.when oscar had all his blood tests it was heart breaking-i'd never heard a baby scream the way he did.
cant believe the workman have now decided to come and paint your place!!

finally got to see the health visitor today and ds seems fine.his jaundice has nearly gone which is really good,but we're still waiting to see the specialist about his feet-hopefully he'll just need some physio.
was told today not to put any shoes onhim untill he is walking,which is a shame as i've already bought him 3 pairs of really cute trainers and baseball boots!!

welshie-glad your check up went well.6 weeks sounds like such a long time ago.

we actually ventured out to the shopping centre today for the first time(with my mum!)which was great.ds was an absolute angel and slept the whole 4 hours we were out.he is also sleeping really well at night now,and not waking up for nearly 5 1/2 hours,for a feed-lets hope it lasts.

Hi everyone,

Felt like a proper mum today i.e. completely out of it. Only just managed to be up and dressed by 10am then the mw came at 1030. Didn't even switch on the radio until almost midday to hear what was going on

I'm so glad to hear your dh is ok Welshie. Horrid having to wait.

Nice to see you again Pink! Glad you and Osiris are getting on, but sorry to hear about all his invasive procedures The decorators are in wow! Glad you gave them what for and I hope they come back when you instructed

I am tired. Millie fed for 45 minutes from one of my rock like boobs. She'd better get an appetite for some more in a minute because my other breast needs serious decanting before I go to bed

Lots of love to all xxx

Arlo and I have now been home for a week - I can't believe how quickly it's gone. I really feel like I've been missing stuff on here, so I'm hoping to be able to catch up soon.

Sorry to hear lots of you are suffering with your new babies' crying. I'm a bit concerned that mine doesn't really cry much at all. He cries a bit when he needs feeding, but never for longer than a minute or so. I guess it must be the medication he's on. He's eating really well though and we're still on sort of a routine implemented at the hospital, so I guess he never really gets that hungry.

Poor you Tea having a cry in Boots. Hope dd settles down soon for you. What were you feeding her on? I'm giving Pod as much ebm as I can (only totalling enough for about one feed a day sadly) and Aptamil.

Pink - hope Osiris' thyroid problem gets sorted out soon - It's amazing what medical science can acheive these days.but it's horrid seeing them getting jabbed and prodded about isn't it. One of the consultants was trying to find a vein to take blood from Arlo for over half an hour putting the needle in him one day while I was holding him still - poor thing was screaming his head off I have to second what Welshie says about you making sure you're eating enough - it really does affect milk production as well as making you feel more exhausted than you need to x

Trb - thanks for updating the stats thread for Arlo Amazing how many babies were born on the 22nd wasn't it? I think it had something to do with the full moon that night.

Redhead - Fox is such a cool name - is he a redhead too?

Lynny - re your 9-12 screaming - I think you need earplugs to take the edge off!

Katz - thanks for letting me know those teats are called Haberman Feeders - have you used yours yet? Has anyone used one? What do you think?

MrsF - what a horrible day you must have had waiting for dh to get in touch, I hope he's tucked up in your bed by now.

What do mws do when they come round? Mine (whoever that is?) Hasn't been in touch or been round at all. Should I be bothered? The HV is coming I think once a week and I can't see what the mw could tell me that the HV couldn't?

Charley, what you are doing on MN. Haven't you heard you are supposed to sleep whnever you can when you are a new mum ?!
Don't get too confortable with "he almost never cries...". That's what I was aying a couple of days ago! I guess they need to fatten up before they can properly scream down the house!
Now, seriously... I'm glad you are settling in ok!
On the mwXHV, to be honest I am not sure any of them are critical... I would think MW are more trained to see, detect problems and HV are more to give you general info?! As long as all seems well, and you have MN for all your question you don't really need any of them! {smile] But you should make sure you get the heel prick tests!
Well, I should go to bed, this sleep deprivation is making me silly!

JonahB, forgot to say yesterday - thanks for the offer. Which do you think would be easier for me to get directions to, your house or Pizza Express?

Charleypops, good to see you over here.

I second what everyone else has said about seeing your little one having medical procedures done on them - DS2 also had people trying to find a vein to put an IV in at 1 day old; they tried in at least 6 different places and he was screaming in pain whilst I held him down . The only positive thing to say is that they won't remember any of it (shame we can't say the same thing).

Pink, I hope Osiris's feeding settles down soon. If you can manage to get more sleep that way, having him in your bed isn't a bad thing (says me - DS2 is still in our bed at nearly 5 weeks old!).

I'm going to be be tough and start putting DS2 in his cot rather than our bed at the weekend. It's phase one of 'starting a routine'. Wish me luck!

Off out for my first night out tonight - have expressed loads of milk for DH, and he's staying at home whilst I go out for a meal with some friends...yippee! Two glasses of wine and I'll be plastered

Sorry for the rubbish catch-up, had lots more to say but will have to go as DS1 and DS2 are both kicking off.

charley-my midwife came to see us the day after we got home,then every couple of days until about day 10.
we were then discharged and referred to the hv,who i saw for the first time yesterday.
i think as long as someone is coming round to see you,it probably wont matter too much but it is the midwife who does the guthrie test so perhaps you should contact either the hv or hospital and mention it to her.

my ds also hardly cries-he just grizzles every now and then.
what i find really funny is sometimes when he's asleep,you tell he's dreaming and sort of talks to himself in baby language.
also have found that he hates his moses basket.he will sleep in it at night(probably because it's dark)but during the day he doesnt want to know.
he spends ages in his fisher price swing-he loves it and it's by far the best baby item we've bought.

Just had to share this.
Dd is keen to 'send people to jail' at the moment. Apparently it's a 'hotel for naughty children'. This morning after ds had spit up a large amount of feed she informed me that I was in a special jail 'you have to stay in all day mummy covered in baby sick'
Ho hum.