May 2009 - This too shall pass.. from leg warmers to pennies

[Momino]

this too shall pass!

Jael Hope your vent has made you feel a bit better . That was not v. nice for all of you. Like the others said: as you've been seriously ill + you haven't got transport so things should have been organised around you.

spangle Don't worry, as long as he's happy and reaching milestones he'll be fine. My dd1 went from the 75th to the 50th over the 1st few months after her birth. She seems to have stuck to that ever since.

Febes (if it was you). How annoying about your wallet. Luckily it didn't contain any credit cards.

Thanks for all the congrats on the house. Don't know where to start with the packing. But yes, it will definitely be declutter time. That's seriously needed in our house as everywhere I look there's stuff. Lots of stuff, most of it useless.

Jael How annoying. I can imagine just how that felt. I've found things like that happen more nowadays because we all have mobile phones, and so we rely on them more to make last minute plans. Grrr for you and your dd.

Febes That is really crappy. Just having to cancel cards is annoying enough, but being without them in the mean time, losing your cash and tickets.

Belgian Wahey! It means you can plan now!

Thanks for letting me vent. You don't think Its me in the wrong at all then? My mom hasn't even tried to contact me at all. I just feel kinda sorry for my poor Auntie too, she'd come all the way down here, and it wasn't even like she'd stayed at my moms house, she'd stayed in a hotel, my mom had gone to work at 7am yesterday morning. They had to be out of their hotel room by 10am, so they had to amuse themselves for 4 hours in the tiny town centre with nothing to do, because my mom had told them to stay there and wait until she finished work...I live 10 miles away...but thats how it's always been in my moms eyes if you get me, since I moved away from my "home town" that I'd lived in all my life, 10 miles away, it's like it's too far away to visit, so she wouldn't of even suggested to them to even come and see me because I'm "too far away", it's ridiculous.

I got J weighed today and he's 15w and 14lb 11oz, he's well chubby!

Jael- I can't see that you've done anything wrong! I would be well P.O. too- I don't see why your auntie etc couldn't have visited you before 2 and seen your mum later once she'd finished work. And then for your mum to arrange something for the afternoon that didn't involve you due to transport, and THEN to go straight out for dinner without popping in, when they knew it would be hard for you to go to that too. Your poor DD - how disappointing for you all.

H has just been smiling and shouting at the Afghani presidential candidate on C4 News. I wonder what he was trying to say?

Spangle. Dd was just giggling at me whispering 'Hairy Maclary of Donaldson's Dairy' over and over and poking her tummy while I was doing it. Not the best bedtime routine.

morning all

jael I'd have been P.O. too

febes that's crap about losing your wallet

jennster this morning I had M laughing by bouncing her on the bed saying "is it time for booby milk?"
must stop calling it that dread to think what she picks up

just watching gmtv they've got a MW on talking about bottle feeding in a bit
I'm off to BF group this morning so there's bound to be a discussion

Woohoo - H slept through til 6am

Actually I did wake up very very briefly in the middle of the night to the sound of him sucking his fingers but dozed off again very quickly. And my boobs weren't too full in the morning either! He had a mega feeding session in the afternoon/evening so that must have been why.

Yay Spangle

I am about to give G his first bottle. He's gone from sleeping through to waking 3-4 times a night so I'd like to give him formula as his last feed in an attempt to get him to sleep more. Also need to get him used to a bottle as it won't be long until I have to leave him in childcare and return to work

It's a lovely day here - hope you are all out enjoying yourselves.x

Spangle, that's great a bout H sleeping through, hurrah!

at all the things little ones are laughing at. I love when they giggle. I've lately realised Harper is ticklish and she giggles so hard when i tickle her tummy/under her arms etc. giggles are contagious.

Harper has gone backwards in sleeping. Last night was the worst: she woke at 1.30 and I took her in bed for a short feed. I fell asleep and woke to put her back in the basket about 3.30 and she woke up to fuss for awhile which turned into full hysterical crying when I tried to settle her with things she didn't want (walking, nappy, dummy) then settled with a feed. She took a full feed so I can only assume she was genuinely hungry. she then woke at 6am and stayed awake until 9.

my other 2 slept through the night from 9-12 weeks. H, on the other hand, slept through very early but is now waking up. I can't do anything, can I? She has 4/5 feeds in the day, 2 short naps and one long nap - sounds right, doesn't it?

lots of toddler meltdowns lately, think DDs are tired of CP. I don't think i'm handling it very well as I've been yelling a lot and sending them to the step for a 'time out'. am thinking about sending dd2 to nursery tomorrow. spots have scabbed over and she's quite energetic and itching to get out. wish dd1 could go but she's fretting too mcuh for me to want to send her.

never mind. gotta get back to cleaning and dd1 is having another meltdown as I'm ignoring her (dd2/harper asleep).

Momino Poor DDs I'm sure they must be very sick of it now. Harper sounds normal to me. My DD starting sleeping through from 9 wekks and then was a nightmare at 7-12 months at waking in the night and only settling for a feed. I guess teething. Its frustrating though.

I found my wallet It was in the car. It had fallen down the far side of the passenger seat . Luckily I hadn't cancelled or replaced anything yet.

We just had a lovely picnic and paddle in the park as its glorious and hot here today.

S is still feeding 2-3 times a night at 14 weeks, although the other night he slept 7pm-4am which shows he can do it! At least he does just feed and fall back to sleep so it only takes 15-30 mins each time, and sometimes i fall asleep anyway.

What i am getting fed up with though are his 20 or 30 min daytime sleeps where he fights going back to sleep but is obviously tired and is grumpy within 30 mins of being up. This morning he had 20 mins but woke and did a big poo and that was that nap over. Then he had another 30 mins nap - he had wind. Then he fell asleep in the pushchair, woke as we got home, I resettled him in his cot, woke 10 mins later (wind from his feed an hour earlier). Grrrrr. I keep wondering whether to let him cry a bit and settle himself rather than me having to rock him, walk him around, put a dummy in, shush/pat him but i can't bring myself to do it yet as quite often it is wind or tummy troubles stopping him sleeping. Anyone else have this? I'm sure if i cuddled him he would sleep longer, but i need to do stuff (like chat on MN and FB lol).

Grr he's stirring again- I have put his white noise (untuned radio) on really loud in the hope it will distract him from crying.

Hi everyone,

febes you must be so happy you'vefound your wallet.

sleeping I have a feeling it there must be some sort of developmental thing going on seeing that so many babies are regressing at the same time. Funnily enough my ds did the same around 14 weeks and I didn't get him to sleep through again until he was 9m. Fingers crossed that C doesn't do the regressing thing. So far she's still sleeping like a good baby .

C does proper giggles too. For some reason tickles are only tickly if they're kiss tickles. We had a big tickle session just after lunch where C was squealing with laughter

Today I'm doing some packing in preparation for our move in 2 weeks time . The thing is that I've got a visit to Belgium as planned ages ago and my tickets are booked and everything. I'll come back on the 1st and we'll move on the 2nd We've been trying to get hold of the school to confirm that ds has got a place, but there's no one there. So at the moment they haven't officially got a school to go to.

Oh and I just want to remind everyone not to mention my move on FB. I don't want my colleagues to know just yet.

Oh, pula C can be the same with day sleeps. They're never really long. She's a light sleeper and so gets woken easily by the other dcs screaming/slamming doors/throwing toys. Then when she's awake she's unhappy, but I can't get her back off to sleep. Luckily for me though she tends to make up for the lost daytime sleep at night.

momi Hope the worst of those cp is over.

pula H generally has short naps (45min or less) and sometimes I can tell he wants to sleep more but fights it. BUT (touches wood, crosses fingers etc) over the last 4 days he has napped 12pm - 2pm. Maybe it's just a matter of time?

Ooops better go release him from his new toy - a jumperoo. We don't have any convenient doorways for a door bouncer so splashed out. H is tiny in it (3 next directories under his feet) but enjoys it nonetheless.

Palapula DS is 15weeks, and sleeps like an angel at night normally 8pm till 6/7am, but he's really grizzly in the day, and will only have a couple of short naps half an hour at a time maybe, longer if I'm lucky, or if we go out, in the car, or for a walk. I had started to rock him etc to get him to sleep, but I could see myself getting into the pattern I had with DD, where she would only go to sleep with being rocked if you get me. So for the last 2 weeks, after his feed and wind, I've been putting him straight down for a little nap to see how that goes, sometimes he'll have a little cry and whinge, sometimes he'll proper bawl, so I'l go into him, pick him up, soothe him, and put him straight back again, and in this two weeks he's got used to it, and in about an hour he's having a little sleep. I'm not telling you what to do, please don't think that, I'm just telling you what I do, it's worked for me, so far lol Jael X

I'm a little worried about DS, we had started giving him a dummy from birth, but he hasn't taken to it at all, so that's gone out the window, instead, he sucks his fingers and his blankie, should I be concerned? DD had a dummy till she was 9 months and then it went, i'm just worried, I sucked my thumb till I was 12 I know....and I can't live it down, and as for the blankie, he really likes it, but I can't get the thought of this guy I went to high school with still sucking this disgusting piece of cloth at 15.

Hello all!

It is so hot here! I'm "resting" indoors out of the sun, although DS1 is chasing a frog around the corner and is in fits of laughter. So funny! Poor old DS2 has got a little tooth coming through. I can feel it so my suspicions about teething were correct.

Jael I wouldn't worry about the finger and blanket sucking. I think it is quite handy to have a self-soothing baby.

Belgian wow, super woman! What a task ahead, but so exciting. I'm sure there'll be people around at school in the first week of September. I wonder if it would be worth contacting the LEA for advice? There'll be people there at least.

Momimo I'm glad they are all getting better.

I'm off now to plaster suncream all over DS, who hasn't had a nap yet. DS2 is definitely not sleeping through now, but only wakes for a quick feed then goes back to sleep so I can't complain. I'm going to take him to be weighed tomorrow for the first time, so I hope I don't get my wrist slapped!

Jael- the thing is i can put S down awake with his dummy and he'll take himself off to sleep without me being there most times, but when he wakes after a short time, he cries (hard), his dummy doesn't often stop the crying, so I pick him up, rock him, walk him, feed him, sit with him etc. to encourage him to have more sleep. Sometimes he is fine on short naps, so I haven't pushed it, but he's been so grumpy lately i've been trying to lengthen them, and sometimes he does end up having 2.5 hours as a result. But when I have my other DCs at home i can't spend all my time settling or resettling him. I am tempted to get rid of the dummy in a month or so as I did with my other DCs and they learnt to settle themselves (DD sucked her thumb and DS liked being swaddled).

Belgian, how busy you are! but exciting things happening .

llareggub, i know what you mean about 'resting'... we've been indoors most of the day and it's much cooler in here. We did finally get out of the house for a short play in the park but it was so hot we didn't stay long.

Jael, Harper is sucking on her thumb, fist, blanket, whatever she finds as well.

I hope Harper sleeps better tonight. I think I'm going mad because she slept so well the first 12 weeks of her life, I don't know what happened. Belgian, you're prob right that it's a developmental thing.

spangle, about the jumperoo. wish we'd have bought one for dd1 but now seems useless to buy one for dd3. or is it ?

Momino- i know sleep can go a bit funny around this time (and there's the 4 month growth spurt too). I don't think there's much you can do (apart from repeat the mantra this too shall pass). I know with DS1 i started offering water in a bottle sometimes in the night, but i think he was a little bit older as he was in his own room. You could try dreamfeeding? As S has not really changed his nighttime sleep/feeding pattern since he was born (2-3 feeds a night) then he can't really regress but it would be nice to see some progress. I usually try his dummy when he wakes but it has only worked once or twice. Now he is so used to being lifted into bed and fed I think he would be very cross if i didn't!

momi I was just thinking that so many of our babies are having sleep trouble at the same time. It just seems like it can't be a coincidence.

jael C sucks her thumb too. I'm not worried about it, because it helps her go to sleep easily. DS did the same until 6m when he swapped to sucking his toy elephant's tail, which also didn't last long. That elephant is still around and is still his comfort when life isn't going quite the way he wants.

I bathed C today and she was going wild again. She loves baths

I thought I'd bake a chocolate tarte today. I've made it before, but for some reason it didn't work today and it was still all runny inside. I put a skewer in the middle and that came out dry, so I have no idea what went wrong there. It was nice anyway though

Jael H is self-settling by sucking his thumb. I'm not really worried, I think most children grow out of it fairly quickly (although I sucked my fingers for years ). I'm to say I'm from the lazy school of parenting and to my mind a dummy is one more thing to be bothered about.

Momino re the jumperoo have a look at the reviews on amazon - they're very positive and seem to suggest it'll get a food few months' use. H is very small in it but ok as he has good head control - he was really enjoying himself earlier today. It has 3 height settings so plenty of room for him to grow. Does take up a bit of floor space though. Guess it would sell well on ebay afterwards (not looked tho).

Jael My sister was a thumb sucker till 11 and my brother till 14!! but only in private. My DD threw the dummy out of the cot repeatedly at 4 months and started sucking her middle 2 fingers which I personally find cute and its great to be able to a self-soother and never have to worry about remembering a dummy or blankie or whatever. DS has a dummy but hasn't taken to it much and is trying to find his thumb but I'll keep trying the dummy in the meantime till he works out his thing. I think as long as you have rules about where they can suck their fingers, thumb, blankie by the time they are at school ie only in bed or whatever it should be fine.

Momino RE jumperoo. Have you got a toy library near you. I'm going to try to join one as they have bumbos and play nest etc as I refuse to buy anything now I haven't got a PFB I have enough crap and they grow so quick so I will borrow or try car boots and then sell on or give away.

Belgian I doubt you will be able to contact the school before the term starts as even if staff are there they probably won't answer the phone so try the council as someone else suggested.

Pula and other Re sleep and naps. DS is really crap at napping and is also taking about 2 hours to go to sleep at night. I did CC with DD but he is not responding to that so its feeding to sleep here which I don't like but hopefully I'll be able to get him to play the game soon. Once he is asleep though he goes most of the night now so I am thankful for that.