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March 09 - there is no snooze button on a baby that needs milk.....!

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meep · 10/06/2009 12:47

over here ladies

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Wheelybug · 16/09/2009 16:56

Wheely's hopping too... go on... test .

Sorry Rhys didn't make it two nights in a row but its something to cling onto that he's done it once he can do it again....

jollyjoanne · 16/09/2009 19:50

Bold type here too.

Oooo more potential new babies, fingers crossed for the right results.

I'm sorry to say I don't think I'll be able to drop in so often anymore, work have banned loads of websites and they include mumsnet, so I can only post in the evening and then I feel guilty for ignoring Mae in the short time we have together. She still hasn't grasped that normal babies don't stay awake till 10pm!

Mae still hasn't really settled into nursery and grandparents looking after her. She is good and everything during the day but she has taken to waking during the night, normally at about midnight, 3am and 6am but she doesn't want anything just a bit of a cuddle and then she goes back to sleep. It all seems a bit strange.

Boobz loved the video of Pen, she is very cute and really looks like she is enjoying food. Mae definitely pulls some funny face that are nearly worth making the effort to try to video!

Mae is sitting but does topple if she gets tired, tries to reach for something or gets too excited, but she can sit fine in the highchair so eating isn't really a problem.

meep · 17/09/2009 10:32

Bold type has disappeared!

jolly could it be teeth?

Rosie isn't sitting on her own yet - she's pretty solid if I hold her hips - and can sit supported in her high chair (I tried it today as well as digging out all teh weaning spoons etc!) - but it shouldn't be long before I can sit her down on eth floor and let her play!

Dd1 like to hold her hands so she is sitting up with her - very cute!

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grinningbee · 17/09/2009 15:18

Boo to work banning the internet Jolly Boobz Another curious George here - please wee on a stick for us!

Just got back from baby massage class. It was quite good actually. Amy did a big wee when we were doing the abdominal massage, but she wasn't the first, with at least 3 other babies doing it too

There were a couple of 7 week olds and I looked and couldn't believe Amy was ever that small. But my goodness do I want another one! Just got to hope that this silly fibroid shrinks, and that the fortnightly periods buggers off!

The lady running the class told me I should start Amy on solids as it will help her sleep at night... I just smiled and said nothing.

laweaselmys · 17/09/2009 17:26

Hi guys,

boobz Mols was just watching Pen eat that sausage with envy... having been a bit sneaky and let her play with food earlier than six months, she's not having meat till Monday.

We're going to start her with roast chicken!

I just finished reading the BLW book, which was very interesting, and I have stopped passing her food etc but I was a bit suspicious about some things, especially the repeated insistence that BLW babies are less fussy eaters in the future. We'll just have to wait and see I suppose!

Molly can sit up for about twenty minutes before she gets tired and falls over so I have to remember the cushions behind her. She is very insistent on sitting up all the time though which makes me think she's not going to crawl just bumshuffle.

Sorry to hear tales of nits and teeth trouble! No fun.

We just got this high chair for travelling... www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=1500001801&productI d=1500486331&langId=-1&engine=froogle&keyword=Chicco+Quick+Adjust+Table+Seat&_${ja}=tsid:11527|cc:|prd :0983660|cat:Highchairs it attaches to the table and is really useful. There's a tiny gap between the seat and the table which sometimes food disappears down but otherwise I love it!

laweaselmys · 17/09/2009 17:32

I told my HV that I was doing BLW and she got really excited. I know in the past I have felt a bit like 'why is the HV congratulating me for doing what the guidelines say' but actually, I love it when they are pleased with me. I seem to be operating on some kind of good parent puppy scale at the moment. Does that stop when they get bigger??

Also DP pointed out that the weaning sheets the children's centre and HV's were giving out are sponsored by the milk council - they recommend dairy products 2-3 times a day. And then in their meal plans include them FIVE times a day. Surely there is such a thing as too much cow's milk, even for toddlers??

I just read the MN Toddler book. Well worth the money.

laumiere · 17/09/2009 18:59

Fingers crossed boobz! All quiet here now DS1 is back at nursery. Now time to stress about getting Gabe onto bottles....

laweaselmys · 18/09/2009 15:13

Sorry, I'm being very dominant - I haven't been able to get on for ages, so all my saved up excitement is coming up...

however I just wanted to complain that since DD got weighed today another HV (different one) was asking me about weaning. When she realised I was doing BLW she acted like I was a complete idiot and putting my baby at risk. The worst thing about it was that she wouldn't say WHY she wouldn't recommend it. If somebody came up to me and said it's not a good idea because of X (and I hadn't considered, or didn't know about X) I would absolutely listen to them. Instead I was just made to feel really cavalier and foolish, for no real reason.

Grr. As far as I can tell it doesn't make any difference either way so surely it should just be personal choice. I'm trying very hard to concentrate on how excited the other HV was!

laweaselmys · 18/09/2009 15:14

Also, boobz... please do the test!

laweaselmys · 18/09/2009 15:14

Sorry, again (I should really wait to post) Molly is totally recovered and back to her usual tricks.

lizziemun · 18/09/2009 17:06

Laweaselmys

Ignore the HV. I beleive all children are different. DD1 would never hsve coped with BLW as she had/has a very strong gag reflex whereas dd2 never had a puree and went straight to blw and has never gagged (unless you count today while as play &stay she ate sand).

I've not been for a few days as dh my laptop died again. So i go back a read the last few days.

Boobz · 18/09/2009 19:29

I will do test tomorrow morning - but still haven't had a period so don't really think I am preggers... just a little bit of me thinks I am.

DH is half and hour late and the dinner is buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurning. Wanker.

laweaselmys · 18/09/2009 20:19

Thanks Lizziemun I've just been reading this webchat with gill rapley that I missed the other day and actually it has cheered me up no end.

Plus Molly picking up a piece of courgette holding it up to the sky to inspect it and then stuffing it in her mouth. I really feel that the BLW vs puree is just a personal choice dependent on the babies and the parents preferences. I just wish more people knew about BLW!

lizziemun · 18/09/2009 22:02

I alsways suspect if you go back a generation or 2 your find this is what our grandparents/ great grandmother did anyway.

Boobz I hope you get the result you want.

On the plus side here, DH has had his filling done and the DC teeth seemed to have settled for the moment.

DS can sit by himself for about 30mins now, providing i can get him to bend in the middle as he seems to want to stand all the time.

This week he started smacking his lips together prending to blow kisses if you blow him a kiss.

laumiere · 19/09/2009 09:44

law seconding the 'every child is different' mantra, we could never have done BLW with DS1 as he would have choked all the time (the CP again) so he was on purees until about 1.5 yo. Gabriel on the other hand can steal and eat biscuits at almost 7mo.

In bottle news, I got G to drink half a litre of follow on milk yesterday!!!! (not all at once obv). Was using what DH calls my booby bottles and cwtched him right in like he was having a BF. I'm delighted as really feel I'm at the end of BF now and want to stop when it's still not a chore.

mdavza · 19/09/2009 09:46

Hi people, a lot of lurking here...and a sick baby. A bit worried, because he got the cold last week and he is still not back to normal. He doesn't have a fever, eats well and even sleeps ok, but has a runny nose and is just generally misrable and I can hear his voice is a bit hoarse [sic?!] Maybe I'll just phone the NHS but I don't want him to get antibiotics...any ideas?

Boobz, LOL at Pennys vidoe, she is gorgeous! Ben is jealous of her being able to hold the spoon so well...he struggles and pokes it in his eye or somewhere else. Love the dog too.

Corgi, glad that there is some improvement, sending sleepy vibes.

Kanga5, how you get anything done is beyond me...hope lo is feeling better.
Gotta go, some chirps in the bedroom...

corgikelly · 19/09/2009 14:29

Help, ladies! I need an I don't know sanity check? Reality check? I'm at my wits' end and don't know what to do.

Rhys has been at nursery for three weeks now -- the first two weeks, when my mum was here, he just went for the mornings. Starting this week, he's been going 10-5.

He's still not napping more than 20 or 30 minutes while he's there, but I expected that. What I didn't expect was that for the past week, he has gone absolutely ballistic if he's not being held when he's at home. Every time I put him down, whether it's on his playmat, on the bed, in his cot, on the changing table, in his bouncy chair, wherever, he just starts sobbing and shaking. It doesn't matter if I'm two feet away peeling vegetables, he's still melting down. And god help us if I then walk away for a moment.

The longest I've let him go like that is 20 minutes (during which time I was never more than 10 feet away, and reassuring him verbally) -- he showed no signs of abating, and by the time I picked him up I had to change his vest because it was soaked through, he'd sweated so much.

Is this normal? Some sort of separation anxiety? I don't want to coddle him, but his reaction seems so extreme how do we handle it? At the moment, all semblance of normal life has stopped dinners don't get cooked, laundry doesn't get done...

(Doom and gloom, I know. But the bright side is that he loves his food! So far we've done carrots, bananas, sweet potatoes, potatoes, broccoli, parsnips, apples, pears and ground chicken, and he's gobbled everything up.)

lizziemun · 19/09/2009 15:27

Corgikelly

I would say it probaly a mixture of all the changes at home at the moment. and a bit of separation anxiety. Please don't think i'm trying to make you feel guilty.

Can you speak to the nursery to see if they can find a way of encourging him to sleep more during the day. I know with dd1 if she didn't get enough sleep during the day then she would be a nightmare at night.

I would cuddling him till his calmer and the put him down while still talking to him so he knows your still around.

I can't remember if Rhys sit up aided, if he can could you put him in a high chair while your preparing dinner/laundry.

Not sure if that of any help at all.

jollyjoanne · 19/09/2009 17:21

Corgi, really feel for you. Mae had one day of this after being at nursery for the first time and it was sooo draining. I don't know how you are keeping going. I am sure it will pass but Rhys does sound like he likes to take things to extremes!

Missmodular · 19/09/2009 19:48

Corgi I would second that it might be to do with being tired. If M hasn't had enough sleep she has a much higher tendency to grizzle when she's not being held. Not a major meltdown - although it can and has turned into that if I don't pick her up fairly sharpish. I think they do start separation anxiety at this age too. M quite often cries if I give her to someone else to hold. Hope that helps.

Mdavza Probably best phone NHS if you're worried, although if my experience is anything to go by they'll tell you to see your GP anyway...

Latest weaning news: M is pretty much rejecting purees in favour of 'proper' food. Today she had a go at toast, fusilli, breadsticks and banana. I have a question for you BLWers out there (I haven't read the Gill Rapley book) - why do some people say you shouldn't give tomatoes before 8 months - is it an allergy thing? Because M has had quite a bit already and no adverse reactions so far... Are there any other no-nos I should bear in mind? I wasn't expecting to do BLW so haven't really got with the programme...

Where are you Slick? Come back, wherever you are!

meep · 20/09/2009 14:18

corgi dd1 was notoriously clingy at around 5mo - she would sit on someone's knee with me right beside her and howl until I picked her up. Rosie is going through a milder version of this at the moment - fine if I am totally gone, but if she hears or catches a glimpse of me she starts howling.

With dd1 I wondered how on earth she would get on at nursery - but she changed at about 6.5mo and was easier with other people.

Would agree with others that tiredness will exacerbate the clinginess - infact dd1 has just demonstrated that beautifully by practically climbing up my legs as I walked just before her nap time!

Well weaning has commenced here - and Rosie just loves it. Being a Mum of a baby and a toddler I have managed to mush up some pears and some sweet potato - other than that I have been a bit reliant on Plum and Ellas pouches. Easy but expensive! But it does mean that Rosie feasted on Spinach sweet potato and basil for lunch - !!!

Thought I was going to get some peace = she's just woken up - back later.

yes slick WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU???!

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laumiere · 20/09/2009 18:07

Oops I think we may be going towards BLW here too! Gabriel has attacked apple, sausage and mash today and loved every minute

mdavza · 20/09/2009 19:14

It was a tooth! Bless his dear little babyness - yesterday, with the muck streaming out of his nose, I saw something red in his bottom lip and lo and behold, the beginnings of a tooth! We are extremely proud of him, and now everything makes sense. I did phone the NHS before I discovered the tooth and decided to go straight for the swine flu line...hmm, a bit neurotic there, but in the end they did phone me back when I was on the line so just left it there. He is so shipper today, still has a runny nose, but in such a good mood, and his daytime sleep has improved.

Corgi I feel for you, I really do. This morning we went to chucrh and dh was late with LB so I just rushed him into the creche and left him there. About 10 mins later we could hear the howl so DH spent the rest of the service in with the ladies. (he was on duty today) I can imagine that he must feel very confused at the moment, but maybe you should give him extra reassurance and cuddles all the time, and leave him at first for very short bits and then longer. Poor Rhys!! (And poor you!!!!)

Ben loves chewing on an asparagus stick, so I guess we do both mush and BLW. I'm going to post a new picture, bye!

Boobz · 21/09/2009 08:27

Not pregnant - boo...

lizziemun · 21/09/2009 09:45

I'm sorry Boobz. I hope it doesn't take to long.