October 08 - More chit chat!

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10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz - Induction due to rhesus sensitivity, G&A.
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs - Just beat induction for PE!
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz - Fast and furious hospital birth.
22nd Sept (Due 10th Oct) - Lozza70 - Boy - Sander Gene - 7lbs 5oz - Em C-Sec due to raised BP and high ALTs from liver.
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz - 36hr labour, ventouse and stitches.
3rd Oct (Due 6th Oct) - Bethoo - Girl - Maia - 7lbs -
3rd Oct (Due 26th Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - Rebecca Jill Erzsebet - 8lbs 10.5oz - Homebirth with paramedics due to meconium.
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz -
5th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - hedgepig - Boy - Oliver - 6lbs 3oz -
5th Oct (Due 29th Sept Oct) - CherryChoc - Boy - Ryan - 6lbs 11oz - 3 day labour with natural birth in hospital
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz -
9th Oct (Due 17th) - Marthasmama - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz - 4 day induction with 1 hour established labour!
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz - Homebirth.
13th Oct (Due 15th Oct) - mum2jakeyroo/jrsqueak - Boy - Joshua - 7lbs 2oz - Delivered in car by dh!
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz - Homebirth
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz -
17th Oct (Due 27th Oct) - Rhian82 - Boy - - - Episiotomy and ventouse.
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz -
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz - hospital birth, epidural, stitches, 24hrs start to finish
28th Oct (Due 31st Oct) - Jojay - Boy - Edward Alexander - 7lbs 7oz - hospital birth - gas and air, 2nd degree tear. 7 hrs start to finish.
1st Nov (Due 22nd Oct) - SmudgeyDoodle - Girl - - 8lbs 2oz - Hospital water birth.
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz -
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz - Em C-Sec. Back to back and knotted cord around neck. 24 hours of labour first though, and don't you forget it!

Nah Myjob - I don't think so either. It's just that where I live there is a much higher demand for HVs than MWs. I am thinking about doing some nutrition courses with the OU in addition to the breast feeding counsellor course. I wish I was your age! I have realised what I want to do a bit late in my working life.

Evening all.

Congratulations Bethoo! Glad you're finally beginning to relax.

CSWS - I am so on your behalf. It's one thing talking to your wife in that way (and unacceptable IMO) but to say something like that to your DD is appalling. I've come to this very late, so I sincerely hope that you have both had a fulsome apology from your dh.

Star - I wish people would be more American, as I think that service on the whole in this country is pretty terrible, especially here in London. I couldn't believe how friendly the service was when I went to the US. Or how big the portion sizes were either!

MM- It's funny you mention you ds shaking his head to get to sleep as that's what S does. He's just started recently and I was a but worried that there might be something wrong with him. That makes me feel a bit better.

I've missed loads of people out. Sorry - this thread moves so fast!

Myjob - does that mean you'll take him if he doesn't have slapped cheek!! He comes with all his own teeth, clothes and excellent manners. He will eat you out of house and home though...

MM - Being a HV these days is a bit like being a nursing social worker imo. THe poor HVs here get a terrible time of it, blamed by parents and professionals alike, i owouldn't do it for anything......

BTW there is a programme on tonight on ITV called 'my child won't sleep' - probably be crap and sensationalist but might make us feel better about being sleep deprived...

I think I'd rather be an HV than deal with childbirth as a midwife. It's a miracle at the end, when the baby is out, but not all the stuff in between.
Q is crawling everywhere. He loves to move about. I'm so happy he's crawling because I know how important it is. phew.
DH just told me to "lose some weight" when I told him there was a piece he needed to fix on our bed. He's right. I've got about 5-7 extra pounds to spare after my rapid weight loss scare when I started stuffing my face with sesame seeds....etc. and should just drop it.

aubergenie - americans have very few admirable qualities . Customer service is at it's BEST in Japan. We used to live in Japan (I taught at an international school there). Never experienced customer service like that before. And everyone so lovely and friendly.

Star - at DH! What the hell is up with these men?! You're tiny tiny tiny! You do not need to lose weight. You're the same height as me right 5ft3 and you weigh just over 8 stone iirc. That is fine, any less and you'd be borderline under weight. If my DH told me to lose weight, he's lose a couple of 'stones' immediately! I think I must be a bit of a dragon, but I expect respect from my husband. To be honest, I think he would be totally shocked at the way some of your DHs speak to you ladies.

CSWS - I hope you're ok.

What a shame we had the patio redone last month MM . He's apologised for the 'wanting a second child' comment, but not mentioned what he said to dd, and nor have I, as I can't face another argument.
I did manage an hour in bed this afternoon whilst ds napped, thankfully.

If your friend already knew that her dd had slapped cheek then she wouldn't have been contagious any more loulou, but if you saw her in the week or two before she knew she had it then it could be.

Congratulations on the good scan bethoo.

Am impressed by M saying daddy already. No sign of words from ds yet, but dd wasn't especially early to talk either (but then overtook everyone in a flash once she did start!).

I think we might have weaned dd off her night feed, leaving just her morning one now. There were a couple of days where I had no milk at bedtime, because ds had just drained me, and I told her that maybe the boo-boos (her name for them) were trying to tell her that it was time to give up. Then the next day she was naughty and was warned that she would lose it for that night, but she nonchalantly said 'it's ok, I don't want boo-boo any more - I'm stopping', which she of course changed her mind about by bedtime, but we stuck with it and tonight she just accepted that there wasn't any, checked that she could have some in the morning, and then let dh put her to bed. Hurrah!

CSWS - I refused to believe that she was actually saying it but she only says it when DH is not around and generally when her arrives she stops saying it. She also says it while reaching for DH. She is still no where near crawling so she has to be good at something!!! DS was like your dd. He was very good physically but didn't really talk until he was about 1. But he went straight to two/three word sentences and was miles ahead of his peers at nursery. M also says something that sounds very much like 'Hello' and said it to a woman today and she replied 'Oh hello!'. So it isn't just my mummy ear!! Awww to DD growing up and not having boo boo any more.

Loulou - I think that's why there is such a high demand for HV is my area. The other end of town is very deprived and the HVs all want my end of town as the mums here just need human contact. I remember my HV with ds was always late to see me as she had so much to deal with.

star you dont need to lose weight, I take it your DH was joking about that comment???

csws Glad he apologised. I bet you would like another re what he said to DD but I know sometimes its not worth mentioning, maybe he feels too guilty and knows he should not have said it to actaully say anything else now. Did you want dd to stop BF? What is average age of finishing anyway, I would stop at teeth arriving if we had carried on Is letting them finish what you call self weaning? Sorry, I dont know much about that!

bethoo Congrats and glad all ok and yeh for DP being pleased too. I am not surprised though after all your naughtiness . Is your DP good with your children? How is the ex and what I remember his strange devoting mother???

HV and MWs not sure what I would rather. I think its lovely to be a MW but you dont get to see the babies for long but not sure a HV would be my choice, a bitl ike the reasons loulou is suggesting. I do know a school nurse who has trained as a HV and loves it but then she was also never a MW. I think its lovely that you can have a nice bond with your mw and a shame they dont do after care, just mix the 2 professions up and it would be perfect

If you are up for swapping who wants a 3 1/2 girl??? loulou fancy a trade???

Star - I used to live in Japan too! Where were you? I spent 3 years teaching in a girls' high school in Fukuoka-ken.

You're right about the service. I couldn't believe it when I was in Sogo at closing time once, and everyone was standing in a line bowing at me. Can't quite imagine that happening here.

And I agree with MM. What is it with some of these men??? My dp would be really shocked if I told him some of those things.

Jenwa - self-weaning is letting the child continue until it is their decision to stop. Since it's more my wish that she stops than hers, it isn't fully self-weaning, although we may let her self-wean from the morning feed. Generally children will self-wean between the ages of 2 and 4, but anytime up to around 6 is not uncommon if they are left to decide for themselves. Dd is 3yrs 4months, and showing no signs whatsoever of wanting to give up by herself, ever!

You are a well travelled lot on here. Dh spent years living abroad (Netherlands, Germany and India), but it's never really appealed to me (except New York, but I'll tell that story in person if we ever meet up).

Pistachio - how old is your dd? That is so cute!

CSWS, I'm impressed at your continuing with feeding your dd. Emily lost interest at 14 months and I didn't push it, though I'd have continued if she had wanted it. No idea how long ds will feed as he is very mixed about feeding at them moment.

Dh also worked abroad a lot - Russia, Kazakhstan (sp?), South Africa and USA, and is of course still abroad as he is actually Canadian! I spent a few months in Ghana, and dh keeps considering going back to Canada so we'll see what happens about that....

Have posted some pics on fb from the party and am now going to bed

Oh, I also meant to say - congrats on the scan bethoo, great news!

Yes only tandem feeder on here as far as I'm aware Pistachio. That is very sweet from your dd. And ds still has 3 night feeds even when he has had a tonne of food, so it seems to be making bugger all difference!

Already been back up to him twice this evening, so it's not looking good for tonight!

I am considering child led weaning with M depending on the circumstances. She is a milk monster so she'll probably go on forever!

Pistachio - M sometimes has loads to eat in the day, sometimes hardly any. She still wakes up for two feeds in the night no matter how much she eats in the day.

Ekka - Canada is supposed to be a really wonderful place to live. I would love to move to either Canada or Australia, but I couldn't leave my mummy.

Am I too late for child swapping? I have a marvellous BOGOF on two small boys.....
I forgot my golden rule of never giving an ultimatum you won't follow through and am really hoping not to have to throw their scooters away if the ever step on my flowerbeds again .
If you'd spent 3 weeks, one-handed, planting carefully nurtured seedlings while rearing 3 children, you too would have had the epic fishwife tantrum that overcame me in the garden earlier .
We have 45 people coming for DS2 + DDs christening in 3 weeks. Am feeling garden pressure......
I need to move away from the secateurs

I love a good fishwife outburst!

aubergenie - I was in Hiroshima. I didn't teach English, though. I taught at an international school, like I do now - so an American system basically with kids of expats going to the school and some Japanese but they had to cope with the language of instruction for all subjects in English (which at a young age they picked up easily). I loved Japan. I dont think I'd like Tokyo (to much like new york, london...etc...same big city feel). I loved Hiroshima, though. People so friendly and lovely. I want to return there for a few years when Q goes to school.
I learned Japanese in two months before arriving and within 3 months of living there and can read and communicate quite well now. I still take lessons to keep up. I'd love for Q to be able to experience that culture. We are also big snowboarders and spent some weekends in Hokkaido (Niseko) in the winter. We visited Fukuoka - beautiful as well. And were 10 min from the ferry to Miyajima. I love Japan.

MM that is terrible putting up diet pills by baby stuff ,are they saying that all mothers are overweight???? i would take that personally but then i am a paranoid freak! just cos the orange girls who work there are all prepubescent!!!!