Sept 08: They're under starters orders .... and they're off .... well, some of them!

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I thought I'd use this title as not all of our delicious babies are on the move yet, including mine

Ok....I know I said I'd give it a week but for various reasons I ended up starting cc about 11:30 last night.

He cried for 90 minutes then slept for two hours then cried for 30 minutes and slept for another two hours, then he woke at 6ish so I fed him and let him sleep in our bed till 8. This is actually the most sleep any of us have had all week. He woke up in a really happy mood and was really playful at breakfast.

We're doing the same again tonight - but starting at bedtime. I know this is very unMN to be doing CC, but I really think it's for the best. My mum is going to be staying over for a few nights and surprisingly she is being very supportive, so at least I don't feel like a complete monster knowing she's backing me up.

Will keep you all posted on whether it works or not.

Our carseat max weight is 13kg. I think DS is 10kg, so might have another couple of months before we need to upgrade.

digi we did CC with DS when he was younger and it did work. Don't worry about what other people think - if it works go for it.

Good Luck DG I think we were all a bit when we heard about your nights and there was probably this amount of crying without CC.

Good luck DG - what ninja said, if he was crying no matter what else you did, cc isn't going to make him any more unhappy.

starlight this evening was fine . Although we had had a day out in London today so my mum hung around to help for a bit and I got the dc's into their pj's downstairs in front of Night Garden. Bad mummy! Neither of them napped all day in London! DD was over tired but so excited that she kept her eyes open all day.

We had a look at the Fourth Plinth to see who was up there and we saw (in passing) a women who seemed to be doing a womens rights speech, a man reading from the bible and a woman stacking bagels onto sticks . I dragged the dc's into the National Gallery and ds seemed to like it.

dg good luck! You will get there in the end.

debi its been a week now since dd had any day time sleep (apart from the 10 mins in the car yesterday) and she's definitely getting better every day. Having been a baby who slept 23 hours a day (no joke) she dropped to one nap a day at 11m (the books say 15-18m) and has regularly had days without a nap since 20m. She was taking 1.5 hours to fall asleep at night and was up with the lark, but now she's not having a nap she sleeps 7-7 again. Tbh I wouldn't mind putting her to bed later, I would LOVE to have they daytime nap back again where both dcs slept and i could sleep/watch tv/MN/have friends over, but she simply stopped falling asleep, there was nothing I could do about it.
The afternoons that we've had friends round, or we've gone out, have been much much happier for all concerned than the ones where I've tried to entertain a tired dd on my own at home!

Hello! We are now back home 'oop North' in Yorkshire after our night out in London last night. Yes, all three of us survived! I am trying to catch up on the thread but so tired... must go to sleep now. Will have a proper catch up tomorrow. Hope everyone is well, and wishing good sleeps for all mummies and babies tonight.

T slept soooo heavily last night - not even a murmur from him once he was down. He only had about 45 mins nap yesterday, with one thing and another, and was pooped! Still woke for bottle and pram transition at 5:45am though

Glad you are home safe and sound ponymum

Glad you had a good time Ponymum.

I would like everyone to do a very unscientific study for me. DS has got HUGE feet, everyone comments on them , so I was wondering if you could tell me how big your lo's feet are.

I measured from the back of the heel to the end of the big toe, and M was 12cm

Is my darling boy going to be in the Guiness Book of Records?!

11.5cm and not even 15lb yet

Just measured F feet and they are 10cm.

I'm very of these big babies, I'm starting to feel selfish for still bf iykwim? i feel like my milk has not been good enough for all this time

lollyheart your milk HAS been good enough, it's just that babies are different.

I'm worried that maybe I bf too much as M is climbing up the chart. She's on the 75th but is short and dumpy (takes after her dad ) - well maybe her mum too

lolly F is a good size and looks very healthy so your milk is obviously good stuff. As ninja says, they're all different. And he's on the move so much that he'll be burning off more calories than some babies.

lolly your bm is good enough!!

Am posting quickly while I'm at work. Cc worked well last night. 15 mins crying at bedtime then a whopping 5.5 hours sleep till he woke at 3. Then another 15 mins crying and he slept till just after 5. Huge improvement. But could be a fluke so am remaining open minded about how tonight will be.

Will measure ds's feet when I get home. But I think they are big. He has big hands too. Brick laying hands as my mum calls them.

DD is at nursery so I can't measure her feet just now... but you have made me so curious.

London was great. Thanks so much everyone for all your help with the babysitting thing. It was fine! The babysitter had a very reassuring manner and it was obvious from the start that she really loved children. I think the biggest problem was the noise from the pub opposite keeping DD awake until closing (we were in an apartment just opposite Great Ormond street hospital). I tried hard not to worry while out, and we texted a couple of times during the evening. I can't beleive I am writing this - I used to laugh at mothers who fretted over one night out using a babysitter. I promise I'll be a lot more chilled next time, now that I have got through the first time!!

We had such a lovely night! I wore a slinky black dress which looked great (as long as you didn't dwell on the rear view for too long!). We did the theatre and then a bloody amazing late dinner at Joel Robuchon. I felt like a sophisticated grown up again!

carriebo I am afraid I ignored your advice about not enjoying myself too much. I enjoyed myself very much. Twice actually.

Robyn's feet are 10cm which seems huge but not compared to some of yours.

dg fingers crossed for you tonight

ponymumGlad you had a good night, i could do with one of those.

Maybe we could arrange a child free evening before meglet has her op?

becaroo i hope you get well soon.

Well i checked dd and ds1 weight at 10 months,dd was also 16lb and ds1 was 18lb they were ff, so i guess i just have small dcs

Lollyheart - do not doubt what you have done for your lo. You get big and small ff and bf babies, it is no reflection on your milk.

Thanks for measuring your lo's feet everyone, keep the measurements coming

Glad you enjoyed your evening away

11cm. But that was through a sleepsuit with his toes bunched up (ds's default position).

Bedtime last night was only 5 mins of crying - but we've never had much of a problem at bedtime. But at least we can now settle him in his cot stroking his back rather than carrying him / rocking him till he drops off then attempting to maneouvre him into he cot without waking him.

He woke at 2 and I went in instead of dh, bad move. Cc for 45mins till I started to doubt myself then dh took over and ds was asleep on the next visit.

We're not following the exact method of cc at the moment. We're not supposed to touch him when we check in on him. But I always give him a kiss stroke his head and lay him back down. Probably delaying the whole process but as I said stroking him to sleep is infinitely better than rocking him to sleep. I never thought we'd be able to do that.

Glad you had fun ponymum! Will you be starting the April '10 thread then...?
We're off out for a meal in town tonight for a friend's birthday, quite looking forward to it! No idea what to wear though...

dg when we did a similar thing with ds1 I would always lie him down and give him a kiss too. I think if you don't speak to him or make eye contact that's the important bit. Sounds like you're making progress, well done.

DS1 still not better but is getting there I think. His main problem was that he couldn't breath so couldn't sleep but he slept from 7.30pm- 10am last night and is back in bed now so hopefully that'll help.