Jan 09' Dribbling, drooling, swaying and babbling...thats just the mamas....

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Hi everyone! Am still around and keep trying, but failing miserably to catch up with threads so am completely out of the loop! Please fill me in on anything monumental

Had a very busy few weeks, stayed at my mums for a week, without access to MN and then to top it off DD had a very bad accident at the playground resulting in concussion with persistent vomiting. We spent a few days in hospital, had a CT scan and basically missed the best of the weather in the easter holidays whilst she got better . All recovered and well in about 5 days though .
Consequently I spent the second week of Easter hols running around like a blue-arsed fly trying to make it up to her by going out and about loads, It was knackering!!!
Then My SIL had her baby so I became an auntie for the second time and have just got back from visiting again to see my tiny little nephew (I say tiny he was 9lb 2 oz and caused all sorts of problems on the way out..... but seems tiny next to Zach)

The little man in a very healthy 17 and a half pounds at 16 weeks, had his 3rd lot of jabs yesterday and is a very jolly, happy baby despite all the rushing about lately!

Anyone else at this stage experiencing much more night-waking than usual? Really don't want to wean too early but he is a big boy and not sure he will make it to 6 months (very interested in ours and DD's food but I am trying to studiously ignore this, feel a bit mean!). What are the other reasons for increased night-waking, I can't seem to remember them from when DD was small. I remember she had about 2 weeks of this around 15 weeks and then promptly produced 2 teeth . No signs of teeth yet with Zach.

Hope all mums and baby's are well, I must now try harder to keep up.....

pth x

Morning all and thanks for asking about Elizabeth. She seems much better this morning.

Dog I forgot to tell you, my Mum (who is a bit, well a lot actually, like Edina from Ab Fab) sent me a link about Indigo and Crystal children the other day. It said that Crystal children are a very special generation who are beautiful loving souls and will help heal the earth. It made me think of Arlo because it said they are very often late with speech not because they can't do it, rather because they don't need to as they are empathic and (pinch of salt here) quite telepathic. Apparently, there has been quite an increase in children being assessed for speech delay and in spiritual circles they believe this is due to the arrival of these special, beautiful children.

You probably don't believe in all that stuff, but even though I take it all with a large pinch of salt, I still occasionally take comfort from some of the Indigo children stuff in relation to DS1 (Patrick).

Lovely sunshine here today, Elizabeth is wearing one of her new romper suits with a pretty little tshirt under it - she looks so cute I could eat her! (Note to self to get the camera out.) Going to have some lunch then go for a walk in the sunshine I think.

Hi Pat

Sorry to hear about dd's accident, that must've been really scary for you. Glad she recovered well and is better now though.

Not quite at your stage yet, Elizabeth is 15 weeks tomorrow. I am really hoping she doesn't start night waking again (I'm hopeless without sleep).

hi

miss j - nye is waking alot @ nite could be growth spurt or teeth.
bracken has had red cheeks last few nights and crying but then not wanting food

regarding changing tables i got mine from here

www.mamasandpapas.co.uk/product-tub-time-changing-station-made-with-love/409202200/type-i/

it is fantastic we paid less as in sale. it is one of my favourite things. can organise nappies and wipes etc. bath is great used it seperate downstairs when little upstairs on stand till she was about 10 weeks.

patth - so sorry to hear about accident that must have been very scary!! glad she is ok!!
your little man is doing well

mm- glad elizabeth is better clothes sound cute
bracken is 15 weeks mon

received hello kitty clock it is really lovely luv it so cute. is for brackens room
received her m&ps pink dolls pram for her bday in aug is great. the trampoline for garden and vertbaudet celiing light shade, rug and pics all lovely

Oh Dog I know exactly how you are feeling and send much sympathy and absolutely NO patronising bollocks sich as 'cut your cloth'

I will support you if you rip the head off anyone who says this.

Hello everyone,

ray and missJ that you had a bad night.

dog i hope things improve for you.

moose glad Elizabeth is better. The romper suit sounds lovely. I can't get as excited with boys clothes in the same way i did with dds clothes.

tink glad your purchases came and were good

Took dd to a music class this morning, she loved it Even though Finley had a good night, he is really tired today and has slept alot! I will have to wake him soon because otherwise he may be awake tonight which is what i don't want.

dog, crap re van and really annoying that the mechanic didn't check with you before going ahead with repairs. siblings - i have five of them, it's totally normal for them to brutalise each other, trust me. i think my mum spent years of her life refereeing... glad the salt thing went well

pat - congrats on nephew. i have one niece and really like being an auntie

having a crap afternoon here, c won't go to sleep despite clearly being wrecked, is howling intermittently and has had a green poo: no salad for me yesterday so guess it might be related to the out-of-sorts-ness. oh well

Dog - no pig flu here either, it woul dbe right at home as it is a pig sty!

D2 finally went in her pram at 4pm, so have had a whip up and down the stairs and ermoved 4 bags of rubbish form my 'family kitchen diner room'/home of dust and grime.

Am going to hoover [ground floor anyway]. Don't try stop me......

Stipey - sorry pm is rubbish, sounds like my day so I know how it feels. Poor unsettled mites.

I have appt for paed review of the H-bomb. Could choose hospital, nearest [3 mins, where I work] average waiting is 2 months, next nearest [hour and half] is 2 weeks. So it's a drive and I won't be 'known' but worth it for speedy referral.

Hope the dr that see's us is prepared to talk about milk intolerance, hope don't get fobbed off.

Tree yes, we have the same night dilemma. Tonight I am going to try putting the light on, sitting up and trying to get a proper feed into him! But like you say, I am sure it is a very natural pattern - it's only us (modern western world) after all that make our babies sleep in a cot - everyone else is happy to snuggle up! The strange thing is, I don't even feel that sleep deprived as I am only awake for 5 minutes or less when he latches on - but it would be nice to have our bed back. We'll see how it goes tonight...

Hope you get to see good docs at the hospital - and that's a long drive. Does H like car journeys? Nye is pretty good and likes to sleep or plays quietly with his 'freddy firefly' - does anyone else have a lamaze toy like this? It's brilliant, lots of different textures and bits to explore.

Pat how scary about DD - glad she is okay. Poor you, must have been awful.

stripey sounds like we've had a similar afternoon - Nye didn't get enough sleep at lunchtime so was then knackered but wouldn't switch off for an afternoon nap. He is pretending to eat now on the boob but I can tell he is sleeping really!

MsSparkle music class sounds like fun - I can't wait until Nye is old enough to start joining in with all the nursery rhymes! It's the best part of being a kid, surely?!

dog def normal for siblings to play rough. You must reassure yourself that the important thing is that they play together - there will always be tears, but they will be the best of friends one day!

ps tink thanks for changing station link, but what I am looking for is one that fits over our bath, so it doesn't take up any floor space... our new bathroom is very 'bijou'!

Dog this is one article about Indigo and Crystal children but there are more and she has written several books on the subject as well. There's quite a bit out there, some other links about crystal children are:

Human Angel
parenting the indigo/crystal child - interestingly it says they are more prone to food allergies or intolerances (just thinking about you mentioning Arlo's problem with milk).
awakening the crystal children
the way of the crystal peacemakers

Like I said, some of it has to be taken with a huge pinch of salt, but I can't fail to notice lots things in DS1 that tie in with what I've read about Indigo children and it has made me stop and think on occasion. Mum is convinced that DS1 is Indigo and DS2 is Crystal (DS2 is an absolute sweetheart bless him, but he doesn't have the fighting spirit or sharp intellect of his brother. He is the loving one that is all hugs and kisses and very sensitive to other peoples moods etc. He has really struggled at school so far and I am having to work really hard with him for him to just grasp the basics, whereas DS1 just took off like a rocket and adores learning new things.)

Sorry you are having such a horrible time, financially, we are pretty much the same and I get told off every time I buy anything even though its all for the kids and only ever a few pounds at a time. We are about to go through everything and set up a really tight budget, I am dreading it.

Oh and we intended to call Elizabeth Beth for short, but we seem to use the long version of her name all the time. We do the same with Patrick and Edward although Patrick was 'Tricky' when he was a toddler and Edward does get 'Ed' on occasion. I seem to have got into the habit of calling her 'Lilyboo' - must drop that one before someone hears me doing it.

Also, despite being Grandma's little Earth Angels , my boys fight on a regular basis. I used to really worry about it as I never fought physically with my sister, but DH says he was 10 times worse with his brother and sister and I have be reassured time and time again by other Mums at the school that it is completely normal.

Wow, lots to catch up on since I last posted. Hi all.

Hello,

I feel really anxious today, i think it's one of the side effects from the tablets. I don't feel very happy at all, especially after just talking with my friend whos dd is just 6 weeks old and apprently sleeping through, poos at the same time each day and has the same awake periods each day too. Her words were "she just kind of fell into a routine by herself" How much of it is true i don't know as i have only seen her twice since the baby was born but it made me feel bad hearing it. I sound awful don't i, i should just be happy for her i know.

I just feel really low

Hello! I have finally realised, after about my tenth attempt to catch up on this thread it is never going to happen...you ladies type too fast!

I hope all babies and mummys are doing well. Jude is 14 weeks now and doing well,he's a very smiley lad and has really woken up to the world the last three weeks, had his second lot of jabs today so has been a bit grumpy.

Haven't had much chance to mumsnet as too much going on recently. My dad is in his 80s so have been up and down to suffolk quite a lot to see him as my mum passed away a few years ago so he's on his own now. He in pretty good nick for his age though!

We have somehow managed to adopt two kittens so they are settling in, the dog isn't too keen though...so any tips on dogs and kittens anyone?

Lily just turned two (where did the time go?) so we had a house full of toddlers the other weekend and I think I witnessed the slowest game of pass the parcel in the world ever...should have saved it until they were three....it seriuosly took about half an hour to get through it!

Wedding is vaguely planned, had no idea there was so much to do and this is meant to be a small scale affair...booked for the 8/8/2009 at hackney reg office followed by BBQ and champagne at a really nice pub in Victoria Park, which is near by (and has the added bonus of being slap bang next to a big playground to entertain the kids)..then a right 'ol knees up in the church halla t the end of our street with DP's band playing hopefully! Even mamnaged to find a dress in the vintage dept at libertys...so its coming together!

Am just starting to wean DS off the breast in the day time as have to go back to work in June, have decided to keep breast feeding first thing and in the evenings and DP can FF in the day. Have had to be realistic and realise that there is no way I will get time to express during work hours as something always comes up, so hopefully mixed feeding will work.

Right....off to read the thread....I may be some time

MsSparkle please don't let your friend's stories of how her baby is behaving make you feel bad - just look at this thread - everyone has different experiences with their LO's - but you can bet that everyone loves their LO just as much. All babies are different - some will sleep through the night from 3 weeks, and then have tantrums at bedtime when they are 3 years old - there is no 'winning' when it comes to babies!

Sending you hugs too xx

MsS - what dog says. things will feel better.

hkz - no advice re dogs and kittens, our dog growing up was used to cats and now we just have two grumpy sods of cats. but i think our dog when i was a kid differentiated between her cats and other cats, so maybe in due course your dog will think they are his/her kittens? glad to hear wedding plans going smoothly

tree, hope your paed consult is willing to consider the milk intolerance, since if you've noticed an improvement when you cut it out then it seems likely. amazing to think that they might not consider it. blinkin' doctors.

after a long day of grizzling, howling and refusing to sleep, c is now conked out upstairs in her cot. hope she will sleep for a while and that she isn't coming down with something (there has been a spot of sneezing). perhaps it's just a growing thing, she has been changing so much in the last couple of weeks, really becoming conscious if you know what i mean, and that must be confusing and knackering.

unlike me, less and less conscious by the day. i find that i'm kind of zoning out of conversations so i don't even hear what i'm saying, not to mind who i'm talking to - think it must be the cumulative sleep deprivation. it's gone beyond loss of scrabble capacity now... it's not good - today i was talking to my sister about a four year old at this mum and kid thing i was at who asked me what i was doing when i was feeding c ('why's she sucking there?' giggle) and i found myself gesticulating at her boob . she's fab, my sister, but not much of a one for - erm, physical display (and nor am i, i guess); diminished brain function removing normal inhibitions here...

lor', i do burble on, don't i...?

Sorry you are feeling so bad MsSparkle I remember feeling worse and anxious in the first couple of weeks on ADs as well. Its horrible but hang in there it will get better. As for your friend and her baby, we were just saying on here the other day how some people seem really adverse to admitting their baby is anything other than perfect. I'm sure we are far more honest with each other here than we might otherwise be in r/l. I'm certainly guilty of answering the question 'Is she good?' with 'Oh yes, she's an angel' even if we've really been having a bad day.

Speaking of which, my dd hasn't pooed since tea time yesterday and keeps crying out with tummy pain. I thought she was better this morning, but the more feeds she has without pooing the worse she gets. Its so unlike her as she has always got most of her pooing out of the way after her first feed of the morning. Her tummy is making some terrible noises and waking her up crying as well. I've tried working her legs and got lots of smelly wind but no poo - I think I will have to resort to sugar water if it goes on for much longer, she is just so miserable and in pain, I can't stand seeing her in distress. I honestly don't know how you've coped for so long Tree - I take my hat of to you lady!

Stripey you poor thing - get yerself to bed NOW while she's sleeping!

MsSparkle- I just wanted to echo what the others have said and hang on in there while the ADs kick in. From my own experience being depressed was an incredibly lonely place to be, but, as everyone says, it WILL get better, so take as much support as you can from those around you and take it day by day. Just go with the flow with your own baby and try not to compare yourself with others, its different for everyone, my experience with DS is totally different from DD. Hope you feel less anxious in the morning.

Stripey- Can second the feeling of feeling less conscious as these babys become more and more conscious. I really wish I knew what ds was thinking as he wakes up and absorbs his surroundings and this world we live in!Hope you get some sleep

Moose- Fingers crossed for a bit of poo action, it horrible seeing dc in pain and not being able to do anything.

Right, off to do the endless laundry and perhaps get some sleep...