Jan 09' Dribbling, drooling, swaying and babbling...thats just the mamas....

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Dog my HV checked DD over after she had thrush and said she was all clear despite having a white tongue. She's had a white tongue since birth but the thrush looked totally different, like little lumps of white stuff, quite curdy looking, in dd's case attached to her lips but in others can be on their inner cheeks or tongue.

Did a quick google images search and

this baby doesn't have thrush
this baby does have thrush

Hope that helps.

Does anyone else's baby absolutely hate tummy time?

DD learned very early on to put her hands under her head to form a pillow and put her head down. She can hold her head and shoulders off the mat fine, just doesn't want to, we usually only get about 3 minutes with her on her front before she starts objecting. I have to lie down first and put her on my front to get her to do anything.

That said, she has a really strong back and her head and shoulder control has been great since birth (something to do with being breech and sitting up in utero possibly?) so maybe I shouldn't worry about it. The thing is I read somewhere it helps their cross body coordination and even development of hand dominance. Both the boys hated tummy time as well though and it has to be said they are not the most coordinated of fellers!

moose, my niece hated tummy time, is only just starting to sort out crawling now at 8.5 months because she disliked being on her tummy so much. think sister considers herself lucky to have got away with an immobile child for so long... c was crying after a few minutes until a few days ago, but now she is experimenting with stretching her arms out and pushing, and seems much happier about it.

I'd love to go to the Eden project Dog but I think DH is planning on going there on one of our days so better avoid it because he'd be green with probably! Perhaps I could go and not tell him until I went back with him! The other place looks good too - especially if the weather isn't so good. Is it a long drive from you? If it is I don't mind going somewhere a bit past St Austell and closer to you as it is only 1.5hrs from the hotel to where I am staying so don't mind going a bit further as will only be a short journey back after iyswim. Hope Isla settles soon.

DS doesn't get a huge amount of tummy time MM as he likes to be carried facing outwards. DD was the same. DD crawled at 6mo though so holding themselves sitting must strengthen their core muscles enough to enable them to crawl. Tummy time does seem to be fab for their arms though as they are weight bearing on them, but DS is only happy if I laid on the floor with him or if DD is entertaining him. Mostly he sits propped up or lies flat though unless he is in the sling.

Am so of you two. Sounds like you are considering going to some of the places we planned to go to but missed out on last summer when we abandoned our extremely wet camping trip. Hurrumph!

Interestingly, despite hating tummy time, both boys crawled at 6 months and had walking down pat by 11 months so it never held them back in that respect.

Right gotta go - DH needs the laptop to do some work and as I keep spending all his earnings on little girl clothes I can't really argue.

Dog - soft play place if wet sounds like a plan. Will look how far to St Ives as sounds lovely but if too far then the Gardens place looks beautiful and lots of space for DD to run around! What are you like with naps etc. over lunch? Would you be able to meet at 12 and eat there or would that be too much hassle? I'll message you my mob number on facebook anyway and sort out on there and can stop clogging the thread!

DS has days like that sometimes where he fusses and doesn't feed in the evening. With him I'm sure it is overtiredness as sometimes he is awake most of the afternoon watching the whirlwind that is DD. She is fairly exhausting to watch too . Hopefully it will just be a phase and will pass in a day or two.

MM - You are welcome to join us I'm looking forward to it, hopefully the weather will hold out for the week

EPPM - Have been meaning to ask how your DS's head is?

I'll go and crawl under the 'nothing to do on a Friday night' stone now. Night all

dog sorry dd is ropey again, and ergh for thrush- hope it clears up quickly (are you bf? you may need treatment too if so)

DS not too bad at tummy time- he lets me know when he's had enough though dd used to scream the place down... but she did have reflux I still made her do it... and she didn't crawl until 15 mo- thats 15 mo... in fact 15mo and 3 weeks- she left it until 1 week before gp said it would class as an 'issue'

lenni for nappy rash- sometimes it really comes on quickly though, doesn't it?
DS- We have been repositioning (using a sleep positioner) and it is actually having an effect it is looking much better at the moment, his forehead is still a little bulgy, but not noticeable to anyone who doesn't know about plagio. The back is better by far- we just need to rotate him nightly now. He took a little while to get used to the repositioner, but seems happy enough with it now (he is back to waking once per night)

Oh- and dd's dress is stain free now, thanks to a day in the sun on the washing line thank goodness.

Am v jealous of meet-up, hope you have a lovely time!

eppm yey for DS's head, that sounds really good. And great news about the dress too!

Felt really pissy yesterday at being constantly responsible for LO. Poor OH, he works so hard, and I know he would much rather be spending time with LO than riding all day with a bunch of strangers, so it's not his fault... but it's still the situation, and I am still feeling stressed out by it. I just want a few hours away once in a while. Oh I feel terrible for saying that!

I guess I need to be more motivated about expressing milk, handing LO over to OH/ my Mum along with a bottle, and walking away - and then doing something nice like reading a book or watching gossip girl, rather than hanging out yet another load of washing!

Anyway, am off to spend the day at my Mum's today, LO is currently asleep listening to Saturday Live, so I should get myself organised.

Sorry for whinge... my Mum is off to Italy for a fortnight, so I guess my mood has slightly been brought on by that.

just a flying visit.

moose Esme isn't best impressed with tummy time either. But she too has had a very strong neck since birth. even the midwifes we impressed by her movement of her head the day she was born. But i think she is just a nosey bugger, and even though she lifts her head up and can see some stuff, she can't see as much as she would like!!!

Hope all having nice weekend.

Esme & i off to watch last home match of season!

morning

hope that everyone has a good sat

stripey your night sounds good

bracken hates tummy time too always grumbles

sorry about nappy rash

Aw thanks for the invite guys, would be lovely, but I don't think I could be there and back in time to pick the kids up from school somehow - especially as I don't drive. Really hope you have good weather for it.

MissJ don't feel bad, we all feel like that sometimes, after all we are still people as well as mums and need time to just be ourselves instead of someones mum/wife/cook/cleaner etc etc. As well as being rewarding, it is exhausting and relentless looking after a baby, especially when you do most of the caring on your own. Needing a break is not something to feel guilty about. You absolutely do deserve some time off - I have just spent the morning dozing in bed, while DH had all 3 downstairs, after I pointed out to him that, despite being anaemic, a large part of the reason I am so exhausted is that I never get time off being mum. I had only had an hour to go to parent's evening and an hour to visit Mum in hospital since DD was born, other than that I've had at least DD with me 24/7. Sometimes I just need some downtime when I don't have to consider anyone else's needs or feelings at all, it doesn't have to be for long but it is vital to recharge my batteries - having a break actually makes me a better mum in the long run.

missj - i frequently feel a bit oppressed by the fulltimeness of it all, how could you not? i don't think you should feel at all bad about this, everybody needs to recharge sometimes as moose says.

in other news, c has just gone to sleep in her cot without the white noise

right, lunch...

Blimey what alot of posts!

I am feeling a bit fed up at the moment. A friend of mine had a baby 9 weeks after Finley was born, i thought great, someone to share the ups and downs with. She already has a dd who is the same age as my dd and they are friends. I was hoping she would have a boy this time round but she had a girl which is great, but it would have been lovely for Finley to have a little boy playmate.

Anyway, since she got pregnant she has been really competitive. She was never like that before and she is doing my head in because i am not like that at all. Everything i tell her what Finley is doing, her baby "does it" a week later I think she forgets that Finley is 9 weeks older than her which, in terms of development, is alot at this early stage. When i went to see the baby first of all, she was 3 days old and Finley was 9 weeks. I told her Finley was waking just once for a feed during the night, then a week later she said her baby, who would have been a week old, was waking once in the night. WTF? Then last week Finley slept through the night, a one off, i mentioned it to her and guess what, her baby is "sleeping through the night!" She is 5 weeks

Reading her facebook status does my head in because it's her being smug all the time and is what feels like her copying me all the time. I say Finley is quiet and content (which he is) and she says her baby is too (even though her baby has a dummy, i thought they were only given because your baby cries alot?)

It sounds petty i know, but she's really bugging me. I feel i can't tell her anything and feel like i can't say if Finley has a bad night or anything like that. I really thought it would be great to share the good and the bad times of having a baby with her but it's turning out not be the case at all.

I want to make some new friends, ones who don't feel the need to make out their baby is some kind of angel child all the time and actually admit if things are tough. I don't know how to though, i am not very good at meeting people and never make a lasting impression

moose my dd hated tummy time. I am not sure if that's why she crawled at 11 months or what? Finley isn't keen either. He seems more forward than dd did though so maybe he will crawl sooner? I always think they don't look right on their tummy.

The Eden project is really good. We went there last year dp and i. It was very interesting

pic of catherine in her orange itti bitti on fb group page. such cute nappies - and who would have thought nappies could be cute?

mssparkle - agree it's really weird when people are competitive about their babies and even weirder when people pretend that a lot of it isn't tiring and difficult. re meeting people, can you join a mum and baby group of some kind where you are? i am not much good at meeting people either (socially awkward, i believe the term is...) but i think the people who join those groups are looking to meet people in the same situation that they are in so it's a bit easier. and i am sure that it isn't true at all that you don't make a lasting impression!

c always has a string of drool connecting her to the floor when she is having tummy time. it always ends with crying, just is taking longer to get to the point where he has had enough now.

would love to go to the eden project.

she has had enough, i mean...

ms s - that friend of yours sounds very annoying
dont let her get 2 you

hope everyone having a good day

i bought on amazon highschool musical cd and hsnumber 2 cd. how cheesy but luv songs and a hello kitty alarm clock

I just spotted a due Jan 2010 thread!
Was it really a year ago when that was us?